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Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 206	Posted - 2014.01.19 18:02:00 - [1] - Quote If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless.
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 87	Posted - 2014.01.19 18:15:00 - [2] - Quote I agree. But then again nothing is more enjoyable than mowing down proto suits in a completely blueprinted dren fat suit with an adv rail rifle and complex dmg mod. 18k >150k Unofficial D.A.R.K.L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 419	Posted - 2014.01.19 18:18:00 - [3] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. The Commando role isn't just "heavy with a light weapon," it's "dropsuit with 2 light weapons." They have fewer slots and less total HP, too. Also, how many of these threads do we need? Here you can type your bio.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 306	Posted - 2014.01.19 18:19:00 - [4] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. Sentinl Heavy => Defensive and AV. Commando Heavy => Heavy DPS. It's not pointless wait the new skills.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 206	Posted - 2014.01.19 18:25:00 - [5] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. The Commando role isn't just "heavy with a light weapon," it's "dropsuit with 2 light weapons." They have fewer slots and less total HP, too. Also, how many of these threads do we need? 2 light weapons you say, at the cost of slots and a substantial amount of hp you say. Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. Sentinl Heavy => Defensive and AV. Commando Heavy => Heavy DPS. And that should be enforced Quote: It's not pointless wait the new skills. Point taken, but until then it is.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1213	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:11:00 - [6] - Quote Commando = versatility not dps, besides, heavy guns should out dps lights by a decent margin anyways. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Suanar Daranaus Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 122	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:21:00 - [7] - Quote If they would give Heavy's as many choices in 'H' heavy weapons as Assaults have in 'L' light weapons, then why not.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2549	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:22:00 - [8] - Quote I really don't see the problem with heavies carrying light weaponry and I don't get why various people want it removed... Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Tonka Legacy THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo 37	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:27:00 - [9] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: I really don't see the problem with heavies carrying light weaponry and I don't get why various people want it removed... Roles are to be fulfilled in this game to be effective. Heavys need HMGs and forge guns, not combat rifles and shotguns. Also they look like toys in the hands of heavys. Heavys should be restricted when it comes to weapon choice like mediums and scouts do. I'd love to be a scout with a assault forge gun, or boundless HMG, but they are limited. Why does my shotgun shoot confetti? Its like I'm throwing parties for my victims.
Suanar Daranaus Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 122	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:29:00 - [10] - Quote Tonka Legacy wrote: Lt Royal wrote: I really don't see the problem with heavies carrying light weaponry and I don't get why various people want it removed... Roles are to be fulfilled in this game to be effective. Heavys need HMGs and forge guns, not combat rifles and shotguns. Also they look like toys in the hands of heavys. Heavys should be restricted when it comes to weapon choice like mediums and scouts do. I'd love to be a scout with a assault forge gun, or boundless HMG, but they are limited. Then should Weapons be used only by the race that makes them?

Tonka Legacy THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo 37	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:31:00 - [11] - Quote Suanar Daranaus wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: Lt Royal wrote: I really don't see the problem with heavies carrying light weaponry and I don't get why various people want it removed... Roles are to be fulfilled in this game to be effective. Heavys need HMGs and forge guns, not combat rifles and shotguns. Also they look like toys in the hands of heavys. Heavys should be restricted when it comes to weapon choice like mediums and scouts do. I'd love to be a scout with a assault forge gun, or boundless HMG, but they are limited. Then should Weapons be used only by the race that makes them? I wounder about that. Why does my shotgun shoot confetti? Its like I'm throwing parties for my victims.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 420	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:33:00 - [12] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. The Commando role isn't just "heavy with a light weapon," it's "dropsuit with 2 light weapons." They have fewer slots and less total HP, too. 2 light weapons you say, at the cost of slots and a substantial amount of hp you say. I don't know why you decided to phrase the way you did, but yes. I do "say," just like I "say" that water is made of two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. Of course, if you were trying to link my statement to Mordecai's (who's a different person, despite the same avatar), he apparently thinks that the HMG doesn't count as heavy DPS. Here you can type your bio.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 206	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:43:00 - [13] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. The Commando role isn't just "heavy with a light weapon," it's "dropsuit with 2 light weapons." They have fewer slots and less total HP, too. 2 light weapons you say, at the cost of slots and a substantial amount of hp you say. I don't know why you decided to phrase the way you did, but yes. I do "say," just like I "say" that water is made of two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. Of course, if you were trying to link my statement to Mordecai's (who's a different person, despite the same avatar), he apparently thinks that the HMG doesn't count as heavy DPS. I was highlighting that an extra light weapon slot instead does not offset the shortcomings when compared to the sentinel suit that players are using as a commando.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1352	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:47:00 - [14] - Quote I will agree only when CCP will give to them new weapons. Play only with 2 kind of weapons for more than 1 year it's boring. 1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 420	Posted - 2014.01.19 19:53:00 - [15] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: I was highlighting that an extra light weapon slot instead does not offset the shortcomings when compared to the sentinel suit that players are using as a commando. But the whole Commando shtick is using two light weapons, which the Sentinel can't do. Anti-Vehicle and Anti-Infantry in one fit (Swarms + RR) Close and Long range (Shotgun + RR) *Sniper and mid-range (Sniper + CR) The Commando is all about being able to make any combination of two light weapons to cover whatever scenarios you want. It's not about having a rifle and a big HP pool. The assaults can already do that. Sentinels can only be heavier, slower assault suits. They can't be Commandos. Here you can type your bio.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 206	Posted - 2014.01.19 20:05:00 - [16] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: I was highlighting that an extra light weapon slot instead does not offset the shortcomings when compared to the sentinel suit that players are using as a commando. But the whole Commando shtick is using two light weapons, which the Sentinel can't do. Anti-Vehicle and Anti-Infantry in one fit (Swarms + RR) Close and Long range (Shotgun + RR) *Sniper and mid-range (Sniper + CR) The Commando is all about being able to make any combination of two light weapons to cover whatever scenarios you want. It's not about having a rifle and a big HP pool. The assaults can already do that. Sentinels can only be heavier, slower assault suits. They can't be Commandos. That's nice in theory but it's not the reality of things, when comparable setups using sidearms can be achieved.
Summ Dude OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 130	Posted - 2014.01.19 20:09:00 - [17] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: I was highlighting that an extra light weapon slot instead does not offset the shortcomings when compared to the sentinel suit that players are using as a commando. But the whole Commando shtick is using two light weapons, which the Sentinel can't do. Anti-Vehicle and Anti-Infantry in one fit (Swarms + RR) Close and Long range (Shotgun + RR) Sniper and mid-range (Sniper + CR) The Commando is all about being able to make any combination of two light weapons to cover whatever scenarios you want. It's not about having a rifle and a big HP pool. The assaults can already do that. Sentinels can only be heavier, slower assault suits. They can't be Commandos. Exactly. Also, does this mean that all light weapon slots must be unable to be filled with sidearms? Sorry Logis who just wanted an SMG to save on fittings! Anyway, now that the HMG works again, I don't get why I still see heavies up close using ARs and CRs. The HMG is waaaaaay more lethal in it's optimal. Of course I can understand just wanting to mix it up once in a while. Which again, you shouldn't be disallowed from doing just because you're a heavy. Not just a laymen, but the* laymen.
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 820	Posted - 2014.01.19 20:09:00 - [18] - Quote Heavies are very, very slow. If you have more than one person shooting them they will die very quickly. Let them equip whatever weapon they want but don't try and go up against them 1 v 1. Good Advice Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6499	Posted - 2014.01.19 20:15:00 - [19] - Quote No. Let them fit a light weapon on a heavy slot if they want. If you want to take that away from them, you might as well take away my ability to fit an SMG or nova knife on the light slot. Either way, hell no. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 67	Posted - 2014.01.19 21:15:00 - [20] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Also, how many of these threads do we need? I wonder if it's just some dude using hits alts or something. Otherwise it would be a bunch of people suddenly getting the same bad idea. Edit: A race lock is actually something that I wouldn't dislike. But a restriction of H slots to H weapons is ridiculous. This game doesn't use a module system for no reason. What if I want to be a heavy sniper? Or a heavy shotgunner? Or a scout with a plasma cannon? The size of the slot determines MAXIMUM loadout, not specific loadout. Actually, an H slot with a non-H weapon should get more max ammo.

The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 70	Posted - 2014.01.19 21:16:00 - [21] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. I agree. If not, they will be nothing but heavies after 1.8 releases......
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 68	Posted - 2014.01.19 21:38:00 - [22] - Quote The Terminator T-1000 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. I agree. If not, they will be nothing but heavies after 1.8 releases...... This post just radiates a lack of understanding on how gameplay and balance work.
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 83	Posted - 2014.01.19 22:25:00 - [23] - Quote The Commando suit looks very useful, loads only average gear due to limited CPU/PG and finally it has not great performances because it's stripped of shields/armors while having base values reduced if compared to a Sentinel. Yet, I easily understand who chooses to use a "L" weapon because the HMG and the FG cannot cover all the situations, I hope new heavy weapons shall solve this problem. If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1108	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:19:00 - [24] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. say that when you've only got 2 weapons to choose from.
SickJ D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 125	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:32:00 - [25] - Quote Should Logis be forced to only use Light weapons as well? Should Scouts be unable to use any equipment other than scanners? Should every dropsuit come with preset mods that can't be customized? Blue/Green = Good \| Red = Bad \| Yellow = Mine
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 164	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:41:00 - [26] - Quote No. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 70	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:54:00 - [27] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: The Terminator T-1000 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: If heavies/sentinels want to equip light weapons they need spec into the commando role. Otherwise remove the commando role because it's pointless. I agree. If not, they will be nothing but heavies after 1.8 releases...... This post just radiates a lack of understanding on how gameplay and balance work. Because of balance is that I don't think heavies should be able to carry light weapons. Everything in this game has a purpose or least it is supposed to. The purpose of the heavy should be to carry heavy weapons. I know that there are only 2 heavy weapons available in the game right now. That is why CCP needs to released the remaining navy weapons. If you want to be a navy carrying light weapon than you need to go commando. That is the purpose of the commando. Of course, this is just my opinion and I am not very smart.
Summ Dude OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 131	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:05:00 - [28] - Quote The Terminator T-1000 wrote: Because of balance is that I don't think heavies should be able to carry light weapons. Everything in this game has a purpose or least it is supposed to. The purpose of the heavy should be to carry heavy weapons. I know that there are only 2 heavy weapons available in the game right now. That is why CCP needs to released the remaining navy weapons. If you want to be a navy carrying light weapon than you need to go commando. That is the purpose of the commando. Of course, this is just my opinion and I am not very smart. You're at least not very well informed. The Commando gets not one, but two light weapons. That is the point of the commando. Versatility and being well-rounded. Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 236	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:10:00 - [29] - Quote Suanar Daranaus wrote: If they would give Heavy's as many choices in 'H' heavy weapons as Assaults have in 'L' light weapons, then why not. THANK YOU Been say in it forever
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 29	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:26:00 - [30] - Quote Suanar Daranaus wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: Lt Royal wrote: I really don't see the problem with heavies carrying light weaponry and I don't get why various people want it removed... Roles are to be fulfilled in this game to be effective. Heavys need HMGs and forge guns, not combat rifles and shotguns. Also they look like toys in the hands of heavys. Heavys should be restricted when it comes to weapon choice like mediums and scouts do. I'd love to be a scout with a assault forge gun, or boundless HMG, but they are limited. Then should Weapons be used only by the race that makes them? Or at least efficiency/effectiveness bonuses for the race that designed them (while wearing a matching racial suit).



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