DUST Search - Prediction: Scouts are going to become FOTM (It feels weird as **** to type it)

OZAROW wrote:

I predict that you starting this thread, is a way to get things in people's head before the suit even comes out, being the start of the Nerf QQ, so thanks for that. But i don't know if ur a scout, if so shame on you for drawing attention to our suits lol.

But heres the thing, TRUE SCOUTS, will kick ACE with these, because our adv suit is now going to be our basic an our proto will be our adv, we're used to horrible suits, med frames are not.

And the gallente is the only one any assault player will switch too, because of its bonuses BUT that means proto or nothing for the assaults that like to trade shots, they will be too used to taking fire that they will get frustrated before reaching proto I hope!

But with new cloaking being a thing people will want I see your point, only gallente tho, med frames won't adapt to the other scouts as decently, and I assume that most med frames don't have SP in the places as scouts an it will be noticeable .

If scouts switch to med frames the transition would be easy an deadly because we already have almost every mod , most med frames never invested in any electronics or speed, so they ll run brick scouts, an if I'm correct from what I've read cloaking won't work if your damaged or passively repairing ( could be wrong) but a bricked gal scout with 3 HP rep trying to fix a 720 health bar is gonna be a sitting duck.
Not to mention CPU an pg is nothing like a med frame suit.

True scouts are gonna tear things up, but med frames I think will get frustrated, HOPEFULLY!
An if assaults are getting rof bonuses TTK on a scout will be vicious, I see slayer logies going gallente logi as FTOM or back to assaults, an a lot of heavies, but their will be a lot of new scouts but I don't see that being their main fits, why go scout, when gal logi can have CPU bonuses to equip to run cloaks, enought lows to dampen an run CPU pg extenders , scanners an damage mods with more HP , same with amar logistics, also having a sidearm an cloak possibility .

I hope your wrong, I just spend 8 months in scout hell, if assaults make it get nerfed, then leave it once it's nerfed the scout community is gonna be friggen choked after getting so excited for a long awaited buff, but shame on you for mentioning it.

Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5718	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:11:00 - [1] - Quote I absolutely cannot believe I'm saying this. Disclaimer: I am not saying "OMG THIS IS OP NERF IT NOW!", but I'm saying it's going to be interesting to say the least. We don't know the new medium frame stats so this might all go down the drain. All of those little buffs to scouts makes it extremely attractive as a combat suit in comparison to an assault suit. Pros: They're going to be able to avoid adv scanners without a single skill point, making flanking a thing Two equipment Higher speed Cloaks Smaller targets/hitboxes Vastly superior regeneration Higher jump height = Overall better mobility Cons: 100~ less base HP One less slot Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Consider, for example, that the Cal scout can get 450 shields with a 50 HP/s regen and a 2s recharge delay. Honestly the more I think about it, the less ridiculous the 10% ROF bonus on assaults sounds Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1209	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:18:00 - [2] - Quote Finally a reason to use my dragonfly again. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2248	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:20:00 - [3] - Quote Are you QQ because 360scan514 is over and flanking can actually happen? Intelligence is OP
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 420	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:20:00 - [4] - Quote Agreed. Even without cloak, unless assault fittings are drastically changed, the scout looks to be the next big thing. The inherent ability to slip under advanced scanners without ANY mods is huge. Plus smaller hitbox, speed, stamina and an extra equipment? eHP on even the advanced suits, without sacrificing speed is in the mid 500s. You allow for speed sacrifice and its more like 700-800 (still a lot faster than most assaults at like 5.0/7.3). Im fine with this, as I run a minmitar assault with dampeners to get my stealthy (sorta speedy) combat on. So ill be able to slide right in to one of the new scouts and go to town.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1498	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:21:00 - [5] - Quote I'm not sure if I really agree with this or not. I'm glad that Scouts got a buff they really needed and still think Assaults will be better overall for slaying, although the Scout will be quite good as well. I don't know, maybe they should've waited with giving the Scouts the extra low or high slot they've been given until we've seen how Scouts would be like after the other buffs. The other buffs include: 1 extra Equipment slot. The ability to use Cloaks (Assaults can as well, but will sacrifice their entire fitting). More CPU and PG. 10 dB lower Scan Profile. 4m longer Scan Range Maybe something else I've forgot about. Could they have just done those and then added the extra low or high slot IF the Scouts needed it? Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1609	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:22:00 - [6] - Quote The Gallente scout won't be so bad since it's going to be the slowest scout and the one with the lowest passive repair. But that Caldari scout with a complex armor repper and 40 hp/s is going to be god like. As soon as he is off your screen he will be at full HP. Armor and Shields are not the same!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5719	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:23:00 - [7] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Are you QQ because 360scan514 is over and flanking can actually happen? Actually Taka I am one of the main supporters of a scanner nerf. I made multiple threads saying how bullshit it is, and I don't ever use it myself. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1209	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:23:00 - [8] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Are you QQ because 360scan514 is over and flanking can actually happen? Where in the op does it say they're complaining about these changes? "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5719	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:25:00 - [9] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Are you QQ because 360scan514 is over and flanking can actually happen? Where in the op does it say they're complaining about these changes? Don't mind him, he's butthurt at me because I'm against tanks Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1209	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:28:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Are you QQ because 360scan514 is over and flanking can actually happen? Where in the op does it say they're complaining about these changes? Don't mind him, he's butthurt at me because I'm against tanks I know, he's upset because people realize tanks are pretty unbalanced right now. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy

THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 425	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:29:00 - [11] - Quote It's natural, it's a huge change up to tactics, tech and game play. I'll be there day 1 but I'm not really interested in stealth killing stuff so much, just allows me be all Sun Tzu up in this ***** somewhat better. Gal & Min scout-to-be . Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2248	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:30:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Are you QQ because 360scan514 is over and flanking can actually happen? Where in the op does it say they're complaining about these changes? Don't mind him, he's butthurt at me because I'm against tanks lol i dont mind if bad players are against tanks Intelligence is OP
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10162	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:32:00 - [13] - Quote It's been a long time since I've been a dedicated scout, OP or UP, if we get a full infantry respec with 1.8, Gallente Scout is where I'll be at. Alpha damage for days. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5720	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:32:00 - [14] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Are you QQ because 360scan514 is over and flanking can actually happen? Where in the op does it say they're complaining about these changes? Don't mind him, he's butthurt at me because I'm against tanks lol i dont mind if bad players are against tanks Bet ya if you go infantry I will smack you over and over again until you cry Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2927	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:33:00 - [15] - Quote I for one will be going Amarr scout because it is what I've wanted to play my entire DUST career, it simply wasn't available to me. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4054	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:33:00 - [16] - Quote Even Watts said he's going Gallente Scout after 1.8 :I Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2248	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:36:00 - [17] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Are you QQ because 360scan514 is over and flanking can actually happen? Where in the op does it say they're complaining about these changes? Don't mind him, he's butthurt at me because I'm against tanks lol i dont mind if bad players are against tanks Bet ya if you go infantry I will smack you over and over again until you cry I doubt it very much Intelligence is OP
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5720	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:38:00 - [18] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I doubt it very much You're going to leave your tin can? MADNESS! You wouldn't survive! I can't be the one responsible for you going 1/30 Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 436	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:48:00 - [19] - Quote time to go back to my roots A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
OZAROW Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1261	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:49:00 - [20] - Quote I predict that you starting this thread, is a way to get things in people's head before the suit even comes out, being the start of the Nerf QQ, so thanks for that. But i don't know if ur a scout, if so shame on you for drawing attention to our suits lol. But heres the thing, TRUE SCOUTS, will kick ACE with these, because our adv suit is now going to be our basic an our proto will be our adv, we're used to horrible suits, med frames are not. And the gallente is the only one any assault player will switch too, because of its bonuses BUT that means proto or nothing for the assaults that like to trade shots, they will be too used to taking fire that they will get frustrated before reaching proto I hope! But with new cloaking being a thing people will want I see your point, only gallente tho, med frames won't adapt to the other scouts as decently, and I assume that most med frames don't have SP in the places as scouts an it will be noticeable . If scouts switch to med frames the transition would be easy an deadly because we already have almost every mod , most med frames never invested in any electronics or speed, so they ll run brick scouts, an if I'm correct from what I've read cloaking won't work if your damaged or passively repairing ( could be wrong) but a bricked gal scout with 3 HP rep trying to fix a 720 health bar is gonna be a sitting duck. Not to mention CPU an pg is nothing like a med frame suit. True scouts are gonna tear things up, but med frames I think will get frustrated, HOPEFULLY! An if assaults are getting rof bonuses TTK on a scout will be vicious, I see slayer logies going gallente logi as FTOM or back to assaults, an a lot of heavies, but their will be a lot of new scouts but I don't see that being their main fits, why go scout, when gal logi can have CPU bonuses to equip to run cloaks, enought lows to dampen an run CPU pg extenders , scanners an damage mods with more HP , same with amar logistics, also having a sidearm an cloak possibility . I hope your wrong, I just spend 8 months in scout hell, if assaults make it get nerfed, then leave it once it's nerfed the scout community is gonna be friggen choked after getting so excited for a long awaited buff, but shame on you for mentioning it. SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5436	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:52:00 - [21] - Quote Prediction: A ton of people are going to skill into scouts because they think they are super ninjas. They are either not as good as expected or CCP makes some tweaks to rebalance them. People rage when they realize it is not easy mode. They then rage even more when they realize that that was the last respec we'll likely ever get. Someone needs to do a PSA warning people about how to spend their refunded SP, especially if they are looking at going into scout or some role they haven't used actively before. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 697	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:52:00 - [22] - Quote The day Nyain San ditches Tanks and Logi Frames in favor of the Scout, is the day we'll know we've created a monster. As O'Dell and Legend have done with Tanks, we Scouts -- if necessary -- will be the among the first in the Forums with specific complaints and fix recommendations. Should imbalance prove in our favor, we will make every effort to see our suit returned to Hard Mode roots.
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 436	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:53:00 - [23] - Quote IDK, The other frames are getting some good bonuses too. The heavy frames are too getting a buff... the bonus to resistance, more slots, the commandos bonus to weapon damage. All in all, I think that all the suts are getting a buff ,but the scout needs it more. I for 1 am excited about the new heavy and scout bonus as well as the rest of the racial suits. "We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3634	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:57:00 - [24] - Quote I'll have to agree with you, as I use them right now and they're completely viable if you have more than 3 brain cells. We used to have a time machine
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2029	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:58:00 - [25] - Quote A corpmate said the same, and I just know if they give a respec then we will see a GalScout influx. Really don't wanna see my suit become OP then get nerfed. I can see Roner General just sitting in a corner, rubbing his hands and having a evil grin on his face. He already has a 600ehp scout, now it will rep and be invisible. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1166	Posted - 2014.01.19 16:59:00 - [26] - Quote Egad scouts will be competitive? this seems like titanfall level hype over something that should have been in place all along. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5725	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:00:00 - [27] - Quote OZAROW wrote: I predict that you starting this thread, is a way to get things in people's head before the suit even comes out, being the start of the Nerf QQ, so thanks for that. But i don't know if ur a scout, if so shame on you for drawing attention to our suits lol. But heres the thing, TRUE SCOUTS, will kick ACE with these, because our adv suit is now going to be our basic an our proto will be our adv, we're used to horrible suits, med frames are not. And the gallente is the only one any assault player will switch too, because of its bonuses BUT that means proto or nothing for the assaults that like to trade shots, they will be too used to taking fire that they will get frustrated before reaching proto I hope! But with new cloaking being a thing people will want I see your point, only gallente tho, med frames won't adapt to the other scouts as decently, and I assume that most med frames don't have SP in the places as scouts an it will be noticeable . If scouts switch to med frames the transition would be easy an deadly because we already have almost every mod , most med frames never invested in any electronics or speed, so they ll run brick scouts, an if I'm correct from what I've read cloaking won't work if your damaged or passively repairing ( could be wrong) but a bricked gal scout with 3 HP rep trying to fix a 720 health bar is gonna be a sitting duck. Not to mention CPU an pg is nothing like a med frame suit. True scouts are gonna tear things up, but med frames I think will get frustrated, HOPEFULLY! An if assaults are getting rof bonuses TTK on a scout will be vicious, I see slayer logies going gallente logi as FTOM or back to assaults, an a lot of heavies, but their will be a lot of new scouts but I don't see that being their main fits, why go scout, when gal logi can have CPU bonuses to equip to run cloaks, enought lows to dampen an run CPU pg extenders , scanners an damage mods with more HP , same with amar logistics, also having a sidearm an cloak possibility . I hope your wrong, I just spend 8 months in scout hell, if assaults make it get nerfed, then leave it once it's nerfed the scout community is gonna be friggen choked after getting so excited for a long awaited buff, but shame on you for mentioning it. Shame on me for mentioning a possible imbalance? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Viktor Skirov Heag Enterprises D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 49	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:00:00 - [28] - Quote I am the only one who is going to be the inverse of Predator?... (And also, I am the only person who thinks that it's mask looks like a Bionicle?), I'm going to stick a nanite injector and revive for the sake of my team, while cloaked. Vithz ar rajatza.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10163	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:08:00 - [29] - Quote I think a lot of it will depend on what kind of changes Logis and Assaults see. The Heavies are already in for a very healthy buff, and scouts obviously needed love to begin with. Just gonna have to wait and see, all I know is if that respec happens, you won't see me in my Gallente Scout, if you catch my drift Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 299	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:09:00 - [30] - Quote I think they will be balanced unless cloaks are OP. I see a lot of slayer logi's going into Assault suits or the Heavy suit. I do think the scout suit will be much more viable as an option to play and hopefully we gain some more players running them. Please fix the mic bubble bug...



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