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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5613	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:23:00 - [1] - Quote So I just sneaked up on a Rail Tank. Three AV grenades to the back, a couple of swarms, one more swarm and... wait... did it stop shooting? Oh no, no no no, **** no! Sigh He just got out with his heavy suit and rail rifle, and just gunned me down, the defenseless AV person. That's rather broken isn't it? Sigh... AV is such a thankless job, and even if you do everything you can to make sure the tank dies, the user will just jump out and kill you. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1051	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:26:00 - [2] - Quote No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5613	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:28:00 - [3] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. /me will ignore this stupid post and hopes that the next will be a decent one Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 416	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:37:00 - [4] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. Reading is also supposed to make you understand sentences. It didn't help you much.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 155	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:37:00 - [5] - Quote In EvE if you would try to target a frigate in big ships you would have tons of trouble. So why not do the same in Dust? Fear The Tribes // Standings Minmatar 5 // Gallente 5
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 804	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:43:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So I just sneaked up on a Rail Tank. Three AV grenades to the back, a couple of swarms, one more swarm and... wait... did it stop shooting? Oh no, no no no, **** no! Sigh He just got out with his heavy suit and rail rifle, and just gunned me down, the defenseless AV person. That's rather broken isn't it? Sigh... AV is such a thankless job, and even if you do everything you can to make sure the tank dies, the user will just jump out and kill you. Yea, it annoys the hell out of me too. I can't run because I'm too slow so I just switch to the SMG and pray for a miracle. Good Advice Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 416	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:45:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So I just sneaked up on a Rail Tank. Three AV grenades to the back, a couple of swarms, one more swarm and... wait... did it stop shooting? Oh no, no no no, **** no! Sigh He just got out with his heavy suit and rail rifle, and just gunned me down, the defenseless AV person. That's rather broken isn't it? Sigh... AV is such a thankless job, and even if you do everything you can to make sure the tank dies, the user will just jump out and kill you. I believe the proper responses are "You have a CQC sidearm, get gud." "Call in your tank to fight, HTFU." "Coordinate with more then one AV to counter a single man, stop being skillless" Then tell everyone else they need to use more tactics with more teamates to prevent them from soloing the entire battlefield for 15 minutes. It must be nice to forgo the burden of common sense.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1243	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:52:00 - [8] - Quote I was placing remotes on a tank once and heavy hopped out I detonated and killed him with the remotes and then naded his tank till it blew because I've had tanks hacked remain in my assets so I made sure he lost his aurum tank. Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault Forum warrior lvl 1
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5622	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:53:00 - [9] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: In EvE if you would try to target a frigate in big ships you would have tons of trouble. So why not do the same in Dust? Because in EVE that battleship costs 200x as much as that frigate (that's just the hull, not including weapons and modules), and that battleship can't hit that frigate. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 481	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:54:00 - [10] - Quote Perhaps add an exit timer? Like having to hold circle for like 5 sec or so?

LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 78	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:57:00 - [11] - Quote If all else fails, the jihad jeep still works great. Took out several hardened madrugars this afternoon with those. People can say they're cheap all they want, but what I think is cheap is tanks with blasters killing 30 infantry within a 5 minute span by camping an objective or CRU in Dom Necrophillia: That Uncontrollable Urge To Crack Open A Cold One.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7927	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:59:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Delta90212 wrote: In EvE if you would try to target a frigate in big ships you would have tons of trouble. So why not do the same in Dust? Because in EVE that battleship costs 200x as much as that frigate (that's just the hull, not including weapons and modules), and that battleship can't hit that frigate. His point is that in EVE you DO have trouble killing the -frigate- with the -battleship-. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 44	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:59:00 - [13] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Perhaps add an exit timer? Like having to hold circle for like 5 sec or so? I agree with this. The supply depot is also similar I had drained out the shields in a Heavy but he was close to a supply depot and switched to a medium suit and killed me lol Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5623	Posted - 2014.01.17 21:59:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Delta90212 wrote: In EvE if you would try to target a frigate in big ships you would have tons of trouble. So why not do the same in Dust? Because in EVE that battleship costs 200x as much as that frigate (that's just the hull, not including weapons and modules), and that battleship can't hit that frigate. His point is that in EVE you DO have trouble killing the -frigate- with the -battleship-. But it doesn't work as an analogy. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7927	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:03:00 - [15] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Delta90212 wrote: In EvE if you would try to target a frigate in big ships you would have tons of trouble. So why not do the same in Dust? Because in EVE that battleship costs 200x as much as that frigate (that's just the hull, not including weapons and modules), and that battleship can't hit that frigate. His point is that in EVE you DO have trouble killing the -frigate- with the -battleship-. But it doesn't work as an analogy. It does. What he is suggesting is that the tank should have trouble hitting the infantry. Mind you, it doesn't do anything about people jumping out and killing you. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1051	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:03:00 - [16] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: R F Gyro wrote: No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. /me will ignore this stupid post and hopes that the next will be a decent one Yeah, but its amazing how often this crops up in tank threads, and how many people actually believe it is a valid game balance argument. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising 7	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:07:00 - [17] - Quote Sure it does. An ordinary tank needs machine gunners to keep infantry from ambushing it with detpacks or anti-tank rockets. These tanks don't have any such issues. You can buzz around in them solo and still generally ignore anything short of groups of AV fits. I'm sorta tired of getting sniped by them at short range too.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5624	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:09:00 - [18] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Delta90212 wrote: In EvE if you would try to target a frigate in big ships you would have tons of trouble. So why not do the same in Dust? Because in EVE that battleship costs 200x as much as that frigate (that's just the hull, not including weapons and modules), and that battleship can't hit that frigate. His point is that in EVE you DO have trouble killing the -frigate- with the -battleship-. But it doesn't work as an analogy. It does. What he is suggesting is that the tank should have trouble hitting the infantry. Mind you, it doesn't do anything about people jumping out and killing you. Ah, I read it backwards. I thought he said that if you try and use a frigate to take out a battleship, you would have problems in EVE. Then why not in DUST? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 426	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:09:00 - [19] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Cat Merc wrote: R F Gyro wrote: No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. /me will ignore this stupid post and hopes that the next will be a decent one Yeah, but its amazing how often this crops up in tank threads, and how many people actually believe it is a valid game balance argument. Ahhh, i see what you did there.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5624	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:10:00 - [20] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Cat Merc wrote: R F Gyro wrote: No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. /me will ignore this stupid post and hopes that the next will be a decent one Yeah, but its amazing how often this crops up in tank threads, and how many people actually believe it is a valid game balance argument. hehe Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

Rusty Shallows 819	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:12:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc are you insinuating that in order to pilot a HAV the operator must wear some kind of super squishy light frame? Just the thought gave me the evil chuckles. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5624	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:13:00 - [22] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Cat Merc are you insinuating that in order to pilot a HAV the operator must wear some kind of super squishy light frame? Just the thought gave me the evil chuckles. Well, maybe. Or maybe just force them to go down with the ship if they're being badly badly damaged. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 137	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:13:00 - [23] - Quote In/out timers would be a beautiful thing, would remove all the LAV losers. I've watched this one fatty in a LAV drive around for 5 minutes until he found one guy on his own. He jumped out, I blew up his LAV(im on a redline turret), must have a hurt a little cause the dude he was jumping merced him in 1 second flat with a rail rifle. I've seen it go the exact other way too. They just drive til they can find a fight they can win, and until they stop, you cant destroy the lav without a rail gun. In/out timers, even 1 second would put a stop to this loser tactic. If you can't make it on the frontline with a fat suit, you're well deserving of the title 'scrub'. Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 155	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:14:00 - [24] - Quote Well a enter/exit animation could help prevent the pilot from getting out and killing you immediately Fear The Tribes // Standings Minmatar 5 // Gallente 5
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 426	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:22:00 - [25] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Cat Merc are you insinuating that in order to pilot a HAV the operator must wear some kind of super squishy light frame? Just the thought gave me the evil chuckles. Well, maybe. Or maybe just force them to go down with the ship if they're being badly badly damaged. I prefer that when someone enters an HAV, they can no longer leave it until popped or go to a supply depot to change.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5625	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:26:00 - [26] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Cat Merc are you insinuating that in order to pilot a HAV the operator must wear some kind of super squishy light frame? Just the thought gave me the evil chuckles. Well, maybe. Or maybe just force them to go down with the ship if they're being badly badly damaged. I prefer that when someone enters an HAV, they can no longer leave it until popped or go to a supply depot to change. Even just a 5 seconds timer before they can get out would be fine. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 426	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:30:00 - [27] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Cat Merc are you insinuating that in order to pilot a HAV the operator must wear some kind of super squishy light frame? Just the thought gave me the evil chuckles. Well, maybe. Or maybe just force them to go down with the ship if they're being badly badly damaged. I prefer that when someone enters an HAV, they can no longer leave it until popped or go to a supply depot to change. Even just a 5 seconds timer before they can get out would be fine. But when would the timer start and end? as soon as you enter? As soon as you press the exit button? What if you pressed the exit button and changed your mind before the 5 seconds kicked you out?
The Attorney General 1775	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:39:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So I just sneaked up on a Rail Tank. Three AV grenades to the back, a couple of swarms, one more swarm and... wait... did it stop shooting? Oh no, no no no, **** no! Sigh He just got out with his heavy suit and rail rifle, and just gunned me down, the defenseless AV person. That's rather broken isn't it? Sigh... AV is such a thankless job, and even if you do everything you can to make sure the tank dies, the user will just jump out and kill you. Two points. 1. As always, never travel alone. Going solo in New Eden is never really a good idea. 2. When pilot suits finally show up, this behaviour should change, hopefully into soft scout suits with sidearms only. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3583	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:40:00 - [29] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. But it's AV. It's supposed to demolish vehicles. I'm bored.
calvin b Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 1383	Posted - 2014.01.17 22:41:00 - [30] - Quote I hate the fact I destroy three mad dogs and a few militia tanks and all I receive in ISK is 199K Its BS that a tanker can stomp all over infantry and make twice what I make in killing these damn tanks TANK514 another sign of cancer in the game



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