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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:23:00 -
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So I just sneaked up on a Rail Tank.
Three AV grenades to the back, a couple of swarms, one more swarm and... wait... did it stop shooting?
Oh no, no no no, **** no!
*Sigh*
He just got out with his heavy suit and rail rifle, and just gunned me down, the defenseless AV person.
That's rather broken isn't it?
Sigh... AV is such a thankless job, and even if you do everything you can to make sure the tank dies, the user will just jump out and kill you.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5613
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:28:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry.
/me will ignore this stupid post and hopes that the next will be a decent one
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5622
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:53:00 -
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Delta90212 wrote:In EvE if you would try to target a frigate in big ships you would have tons of trouble.
So why not do the same in Dust?
Because in EVE that battleship costs 200x as much as that frigate (that's just the hull, not including weapons and modules), and that battleship can't hit that frigate.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:59:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Delta90212 wrote:In EvE if you would try to target a frigate in big ships you would have tons of trouble.
So why not do the same in Dust?
Because in EVE that battleship costs 200x as much as that frigate (that's just the hull, not including weapons and modules), and that battleship can't hit that frigate. His point is that in EVE you DO have trouble killing the -frigate- with the -battleship-.
But it doesn't work as an analogy.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:09:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Delta90212 wrote:In EvE if you would try to target a frigate in big ships you would have tons of trouble.
So why not do the same in Dust?
Because in EVE that battleship costs 200x as much as that frigate (that's just the hull, not including weapons and modules), and that battleship can't hit that frigate. His point is that in EVE you DO have trouble killing the -frigate- with the -battleship-. But it doesn't work as an analogy. It does. What he is suggesting is that the tank should have trouble hitting the infantry. Mind you, it doesn't do anything about people jumping out and killing you.
Ah, I read it backwards.
I thought he said that if you try and use a frigate to take out a battleship, you would have problems in EVE. Then why not in DUST?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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5624
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:10:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Cat Merc wrote:R F Gyro wrote:No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. /me will ignore this stupid post and hopes that the next will be a decent one Yeah, but its amazing how often this crops up in tank threads, and how many people actually believe it is a valid game balance argument. 
hehe
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5624
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:13:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Cat Merc are you insinuating that in order to pilot a HAV the operator must wear some kind of super squishy light frame?
Just the thought gave me the evil chuckles.
Well, maybe.
Or maybe just force them to go down with the ship if they're being badly badly damaged.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5625
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:26:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Cat Merc are you insinuating that in order to pilot a HAV the operator must wear some kind of super squishy light frame?
Just the thought gave me the evil chuckles. Well, maybe. Or maybe just force them to go down with the ship if they're being badly badly damaged. I prefer that when someone enters an HAV, they can no longer leave it until popped or go to a supply depot to change.
Even just a 5 seconds timer before they can get out would be fine.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5627
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:05:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Cat Merc are you insinuating that in order to pilot a HAV the operator must wear some kind of super squishy light frame?
Just the thought gave me the evil chuckles. Well, maybe. Or maybe just force them to go down with the ship if they're being badly badly damaged. I prefer that when someone enters an HAV, they can no longer leave it until popped or go to a supply depot to change. Even just a 5 seconds timer before they can get out would be fine. But when would the timer start and end? as soon as you enter? As soon as you press the exit button? What if you pressed the exit button and changed your mind before the 5 seconds kicked you out?
It should be hold circle, like hacking.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5628
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:11:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Atiim wrote:R F Gyro wrote:No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. But it's AV. It's supposed to demolish vehicles.  My trolling was clearly a little too subtle, sorry Atiim.
It's ok, I was caught in the net too.
Though I was surprised, I remembered you as being in my "not stupid" list 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5628
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:12:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So I just sneaked up on a Rail Tank.
Three AV grenades to the back, a couple of swarms, one more swarm and... wait... did it stop shooting?
Oh no, no no no, **** no!
*Sigh*
He just got out with his heavy suit and rail rifle, and just gunned me down, the defenseless AV person.
That's rather broken isn't it?
Sigh... AV is such a thankless job, and even if you do everything you can to make sure the tank dies, the user will just jump out and kill you. Two points. 1. As always, never travel alone. Going solo in New Eden is never really a good idea. 2. When pilot suits finally show up, this behaviour should change, hopefully into soft scout suits with sidearms only.
1. Unless you're a tank
2. When pilot suits how up, tanks are going to be even more powerful. :S
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5633
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:41:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:1: Stop using Logi's as AV fits. Or at least use an Amarr Logi
2: SCP or aim for the head, or SMG and be a good shot.
3: Where's the fluxes, and RE's?
Gallente Assault.
SMG's <<< RR
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5635
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:59:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:1: Stop using Logi's as AV fits. Or at least use an Amarr Logi
2: SCP or aim for the head, or SMG and be a good shot.
3: Where's the fluxes, and RE's? Gallente Assault. SMG's <<< RR well, if you're going to lose, avoid the heavy as much as possible, plant the RE's, and blow it to hell, then escape under the fireworks. I've done that in a Gal Scout, was amazing.
I have a nanohive, there is not enough spare ammo on swarm launcher.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5635
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:01:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:We will stop doing this when pilot suits come out. It's a light frame with hopefully a sidearm, an equipment, and extremely limited slot layout.
Also your title is what's very broken with tanks and your subject matter is you crying a heavy gunned you down like a *****. Some might say git gud.
I run a forge and a toxin on my "pilot" suit and i jump out and gun people down regularly. Smg too good. It's the same weapon you have acess to when you have an AV in primary.
Ah, but you're a heavy, you can soak up damage while you do that.
I'm a medium frame that has half the HP, and that heavy killed me before I could bring half his shields down with the SMG.
There is no git gud in this situation, the only thing I could do better is bring a tank myself.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5646
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Posted - 2014.01.18 10:14:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:We will stop doing this when pilot suits come out. It's a light frame with hopefully a sidearm, an equipment, and extremely limited slot layout.
Also your title is what's very broken with tanks and your subject matter is you crying a heavy gunned you down like a *****. Some might say git gud.
I run a forge and a toxin on my "pilot" suit and i jump out and gun people down regularly. Smg too good. It's the same weapon you have acess to when you have an AV in primary. Ah, but you're a heavy, you can soak up damage while you do that. I'm a medium frame that has half the HP, and that heavy killed me before I could bring half his shields down with the SMG. There is no git gud in this situation, the only thing I could do better is bring a tank myself. I'd say 80% of real tankers have almost 0 dropsuit skill points. A six kin Smg melts any dropsuit in the game in under two seconds. You're in the advantage here youre just bad. When we jump out we are completely disoriented as well. Again this will be solved when the pilot suit releases so stop crying and wait patiently like we are. Pilot suit coming in 1.3 dontcha know. Oh wait 1.4? 1.5.... 6.... 7.... 8....
Six Kin SMG on a squishy Assault <<< Heavy with a Rail Rifle
Rail
*******
Rifle
Get it into your head
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5648
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Posted - 2014.01.18 11:44:00 -
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Alpha 443-6732 wrote:Atiim wrote:R F Gyro wrote:No, its a tank. Its supposed to murder infantry. But it's AV. It's supposed to demolish vehicles. AV is more than just your handheld pea shooters
Well, I was about to argue with you, but you're right.
Swarms launchers = Pea shooter
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.01.18 12:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So I just sneaked up on a Rail Tank.
Three AV grenades to the back, a couple of swarms, one more swarm and... wait... did it stop shooting?
Oh no, no no no, **** no!
*Sigh*
He just got out with his heavy suit and rail rifle, and just gunned me down, the defenseless AV person.
That's rather broken isn't it?
Sigh... AV is such a thankless job, and even if you do everything you can to make sure the tank dies, the user will just jump out and kill you. Tanking is also a thankless job. I haven't even had one "Thanks True for keeping 5 enemy HAV off of our arses for that whole match".
Actually I do thank the tankers that I squad with and save our asses from HAV's. 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5650
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Posted - 2014.01.18 12:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cat Merc wrote:True Adamance wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So I just sneaked up on a Rail Tank.
Three AV grenades to the back, a couple of swarms, one more swarm and... wait... did it stop shooting?
Oh no, no no no, **** no!
*Sigh*
He just got out with his heavy suit and rail rifle, and just gunned me down, the defenseless AV person.
That's rather broken isn't it?
Sigh... AV is such a thankless job, and even if you do everything you can to make sure the tank dies, the user will just jump out and kill you. Tanking is also a thankless job. I haven't even had one "Thanks True for keeping 5 enemy HAV off of our arses for that whole match". Actually I do thank the tankers that I squad with and save our asses from HAV's. I wish I was in your squad. I down 9 HAV for my Team in a single Soma and I get not one Hey True GG, nice that you took down all 9 of those HAV for us since if you hadn't they would have run rampant.
It's about running with the right people.
I tend to also support my tankers with AV fire to make sure their toy survives the fight
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5666
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Posted - 2014.01.18 14:40:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is an idiot
Ah right, I forgot that to be effective as AV you need to bring tanks, otherwise you're an idiot.
Thanks Taka! 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.01.18 14:52:00 -
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Scott Knight wrote:How many people have actually skilled their swarm launchers to a decent level? I mean I feel like people are complaining that their militia swarm launcher can blow up a proto tank. With an advanced Swarm launcher I can deal with most tanks solo. Not easy but it's possible. I think what a lot of people are forgetting that if you and someone else both go after a tank, the tank is done for. It's okay that you can't solo a tank without working for it. I feel like most people want to spend 30,000 on a swarm launcher and expect to kill a 150k tank. I'm fairly certain two people on swarm launchers can take any tank. The problem is when you get 3 tanks together.
Actually read the thread will you?
I am using a proto swarm with damage mods, killing the tank wasn't the problem.
The problem was how he could so easily get out and murder the defenseless AV person.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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