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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

We only have two weapons we only have one suit but we don't get to complain thanks guy I definitely wanted to skill into heavy to use light weapons

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

We only have two weapons we only have one suit but we don't get to complain thanks guy I definitely wanted to skill into heavy to use light weapons

oh yeah and i definitely wanted to skill into scout, only to be outdone by medium frames in every aspect that a SCOUT is supposed to do. and when i got my buff, it was a 6m increase to passive scan range.

why do you get weapons that ONLY you can use AND weapons that everybody else can use, but we can't use heavy weapons?

as far as i see it you have no right to complain.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

you know what? just forget that I even said anything, I'm apparently hated by most heavies now...

well no personal attacks were intended, if that means anything at this point.

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Jacques Cayton II wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

you know what? just forget that I even said anything, I'm apparently hated by most heavies now...

well no personal attacks were intended, if that means anything at this point.

Hey you shouldn't mess with a crowd who has been neglected since closed beta you'll just add fuel to the flame. At least scouts have equipment, speed, stealth, and soon to be cloaks. Heavies got what hp and a big gun. Oh did I mention we only have two.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

you know what? just forget that I even said anything, I'm apparently hated by most heavies now...

well no personal attacks were intended, if that means anything at this point.

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Amarrgheddon wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

you know what? just forget that I even said anything, I'm apparently hated by most heavies now...

well no personal attacks were intended, if that means anything at this point.

please work on my fits, others aren't as important.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

you know what? just forget that I even said anything, I'm apparently hated by most heavies now...

well no personal attacks were intended, if that means anything at this point.

Don't hate ya, man.

But I do disagree with your basic logic. It isn't that "it's been a while since they added new heavy weapons," it's that they HAVE NEVER added new heavy weapons.

In the mean time, they've added:

Laser Rifle
Gallente Medium Frame
Amarr Medium Frame
Minmatar Light Frame
Scrambler Rifle
Flaylock Pistol
Plasma Canon
Combat Rifle
Rail Rifle
Active Scanner

GǪand Commando: a gimped, slow, medium-frame-wannabe palette swap.

CCP very clearly has had the time and the bandwidth to develop a lot of new content. But you're absolutely correct that Heavy content has not ever been a priority. With the exception of the Minmatar light frame, Scout content has not been a priority either.

What we're saying is, given everything else that's been introduced to the game, it's about damn time for it to be a priority.

And with a bit of luck, 1.8 will be it.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

Tactical Forecaster wrote:

you are forgetting that heavies have the least high and low slots and also do not have an equipment slot we gain 2 heavy weapons at the cost of explosives, nanohives, repair tool, scanners, injectors and any other equipment that i failed to mention also we are the slowest suit in the game, we have the largest hit box , and we are also the easiest to be scanned. this is the trade off for high hp and 2 weapons


any more dumb comments about the heavy

slowest suit in the game and largest hitbox should be givens for the suit with THE MOST EHP IN THE GAME, so that's not a sacrifice. that's called fair.

even if you have the highest profile in the game, how many medium frame players do you know of that try to avoid ADV scanners? not many im willing to bet, so that point is null and void.

its also pretty fair that you have the least amount of slots in the game. you have the most ehp and the 2 strongest guns in the game. let's not forget that us SCOUTS have a fraction of your ehp, some of the least cpu in the game and some of the least slots in the game. so that statement is also pointless.

most of your statements on paper would seem reasonable, but if you actually played the game, then you would know that more than half of them are completely useless arguments.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

The ONLY real reason to use heavy is For the HEAVY weapons.
So in practice, they do have only 2 weapons.

any other weapon will be better used by a Med frame.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

The ONLY real reason to use heavy is For the HEAVY weapons.
So in practice, they do have only 2 weapons.

any other weapon will be better used by a Med frame.

i would have to disagree. Rail Rifles are pretty effective on heavy suits. but i see what you're getting at. if they could ONLY use heavy weapons, then i would be much more sympathetic, but even if it's not heavy weaponry, they can still use everything else.

GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?

I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.

plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.

also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.

but I digress. maybe it's just me.

The ONLY real reason to use heavy is For the HEAVY weapons.
So in practice, they do have only 2 weapons.

any other weapon will be better used by a Med frame.

i would have to disagree. Rail Rifles are pretty effective on heavy suits. but i see what you're getting at. if they could ONLY use heavy weapons, then i would be much more sympathetic, but even if it's not heavy weaponry, they can still use everything else.

They can.
But no one except HMG lovers or Forge gun AVers will say:
''Oh yeah! im gonna Go Sentinel proto to use this Shotgun/AR/RR,etc...''

Why?
Because even if HP is very nice (Not very far from what logis can achieve thou): Lack of mobility,lack of equipment slots and huge Hitbox are not.
So anyone thinking in the competitive side of dust will prefer a faster , more adaptable suit.

I HONESTLY dont know ANYONE who got into Sentinels to use anything but a Heavy weapon.
I might be wrong, but i stand by my opinion.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

you'd be surprised how many heavies i've seen with proto shotguns.

and even more so with light rifles.

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KING CHECKMATE wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

you'd be surprised how many heavies i've seen with proto shotguns.

and even more so with light rifles.

Its NOT suprising, due to the lack of Heavy weapon options and unsatisfying performance Heavy weapons usually have in DUST514.

When the HMG was beast,i never saw a SINGLE Heavy with a light weapon.

So its not that players thought:
''Yeah, my fit will be a HEAVY with SHOTGUN''

Its that players think:
''I cant kill sh!t with Heavy weapons and i dont have many options, better try and equip a light one to be SOMEWHAT competitive.''

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