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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:20:00 -
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they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones?
I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry.
plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game.
also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.
but I digress. maybe it's just me.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:23:00 -
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Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:24:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:27:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own? Don't make me answer that.
You already know CCP doesn't like Scouts.
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:30:00 -
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Technically they can't just "use any weapon in the game", they have to invest the SP first.
Considering that heavy suits are the most expensive suits to invest SP in I think it is the SP thats the balancing factor.
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Amarrgheddon
Warcaste
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:30:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own?
I personally think the scout is op. If you haven't found something that you can call your own, you should grab a medium frame and join the herd. |

Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:30:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own?
I would love to see someone's answer for this question.
Amarrgheddon wrote: I personally think the scout is op.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:31:00 -
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Amarrgheddon wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own? I personally think the scout is op. If you haven't found something that you can call your own, you should grab a medium frame and join the herd. are you kidding me?
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:32:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Technically they can't just "use any weapon in the game", they have to invest the SP first.
Considering that heavy suits are the most expensive suits to invest SP in I think it is the SP thats the balancing factor.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:33:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Technically they can't just "use any weapon in the game", they have to invest the SP first.
Considering that heavy suits are the most expensive suits to invest SP in I think it is the SP thats the balancing factor. NEVER allow SP to be a balancing factor.
Otherwise your simply paying to wIn. (Just not with real life currency)
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:33:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Technically they can't just "use any weapon in the game", they have to invest the SP first.
Considering that heavy suits are the most expensive suits to invest SP in I think it is the SP thats the balancing factor. if heavy costs more sp to invest into, then its only by a small amount. not millions.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:35:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Technically they can't just "use any weapon in the game", they have to invest the SP first.
Considering that heavy suits are the most expensive suits to invest SP in I think it is the SP thats the balancing factor. if heavy costs more sp to invest into, then its only by a small amount. not millions. About 100k more.
That's chump change.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:36:00 -
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Atiim wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Technically they can't just "use any weapon in the game", they have to invest the SP first.
Considering that heavy suits are the most expensive suits to invest SP in I think it is the SP thats the balancing factor. if heavy costs more sp to invest into, then its only by a small amount. not millions. About 100k more. That's chump change. exactly. half of 1 week of active sp.
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HiddenBrother
Days of Ruin
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:37:00 -
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Medium suits should be able to use the HMG, and Forge guns.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:38:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones? I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon.  and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry. plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game. also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing. but I digress. maybe it's just me. We only have two weapons we only have one suit but we don't get to complain thanks guy I definitely wanted to skill into heavy to use light weapons
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:40:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: and what can I, a scout, call my own?
Oh I can answer this!
The "Pilot" suits.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:42:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones? I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon.  and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry. plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game. also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing. but I digress. maybe it's just me. We only have two weapons we only have one suit but we don't get to complain thanks guy I definitely wanted to skill into heavy to use light weapons oh yeah and i definitely wanted to skill into scout, only to be outdone by medium frames in every aspect that a SCOUT is supposed to do. and when i got my buff, it was a 6m increase to passive scan range.
why do you get weapons that ONLY you can use AND weapons that everybody else can use, but we can't use heavy weapons?
as far as i see it you have no right to complain.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: and what can I, a scout, call my own?
Oh I can answer this! The "Pilot" suits. not even...
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:43:00 -
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Heavies skilled into their role to carry a HEAVY weapon on a HEAVY frame. If tey're using an AR or MD, they're sacrificing almost all of their regenerative capabilities and speed.
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Tactical Forecaster
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:44:00 -
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you are forgetting that heavies have the least slots and also do not have an equipment slot |
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KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:46:00 -
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cant tell if srs or troll... |

Orion Sanjeet
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:58:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:I'm in a Logisuit with 17+ SP, still investing in stuff I need. 
I'm at 32 mil. And just about have everything I need maxed(this includes some weapons), I feel your pain. |

Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.01.14 17:04:00 -
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Dear OP,
You're aiming at the wrong target. Heavies do not want more heavy weapons at the expense of scouts. That doesn't mean heavies don't want more heavy weapons, or that heavy weapons should not be a priority. Everyone is lobbying for their own play style, but that doesn't mean we don't all want the same thing--a fun game with a lot of specialization. We're all playing a New Eden game because we love dirty cutthroat oneupsmanship--but only in the game. Out here, we're all in this together.
Sincerely,
Goric
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.14 17:09:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones? I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon.  and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry. plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game. also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing. but I digress. maybe it's just me. We only have two weapons we only have one suit but we don't get to complain thanks guy I definitely wanted to skill into heavy to use light weapons oh yeah and i definitely wanted to skill into scout, only to be outdone by medium frames in every aspect that a SCOUT is supposed to do. and when i got my buff, it was a 6m increase to passive scan range. why do you get weapons that ONLY you can use AND weapons that everybody else can use, but we can't use heavy weapons? as far as i see it you have no right to complain. OK then give me equipment I'm sure scanners or nanohives won't make a cqc like the heavy a little op
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Amarrgheddon
Warcaste
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Posted - 2014.01.14 17:12:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Amarrgheddon wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own? I personally think the scout is op. If you haven't found something that you can call your own, you should grab a medium frame and join the herd. are you kidding me?
if you are having trouble with your scout you are probably trying to assault with it. |

Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.14 17:13:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own?
Scouts get cloaking devices. But what can I, as Logi, call my own?
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Amarrgheddon
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Posted - 2014.01.14 17:15:00 -
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Poor mee, too. What do I get? |

T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.14 17:27:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own?
You guys will have cloaks, sure every class can use them, but at a sacrifice for hp, mods, or equipment
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.14 17:35:00 -
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Stfu the heavies been gimped just as long as scouts...and scouts can call jumping their own.....heavies get stuck on everything.....we are in the slowest suit scouts are in the fastest |

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.01.15 12:40:00 -
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Tactical Forecaster wrote:you are forgetting that heavies have the least high and low slots and also do not have an equipment slot we gain 2 heavy weapons at the cost of explosives, nanohives, repair tool, scanners, injectors and any other equipment that i failed to mention also we are the slowest suit in the game, we have the largest hit box , and we are also the easiest to be scanned. this is the trade off for high hp and 2 weapons
any more dumb comments about the heavy slowest suit in the game and largest hitbox should be givens for the suit with THE MOST EHP IN THE GAME, so that's not a sacrifice. that's called fair.
even if you have the highest profile in the game, how many medium frame players do you know of that try to avoid ADV scanners? not many im willing to bet, so that point is null and void.
its also pretty fair that you have the least amount of slots in the game. you have the most ehp and the 2 strongest guns in the game. let's not forget that us SCOUTS have a fraction of your ehp, some of the least cpu in the game and some of the least slots in the game. so that statement is also pointless.
most of your statements on paper would seem reasonable, but if you actually played the game, then you would know that more than half of them are completely useless arguments. 
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