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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:36:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: i agree. and what ive been getting at is that after 2 years the LAG still isn't fixed. that's all im asking for. then you can add as much heavy stuff as you want.
I don't think you understand how software is developed. The team that works on netcode is not the one working on dropsuits, or weapons, or map design, or audio, or anything else.
Stopping work on the other things and putting all those people on the netcode would not mean that it gets done faster. In truth it would stop progress for at least a short while as the new members would have to be brought up to speed, and learn the ins and outs of that particular section of code.
It is not as simple as doubling the staff to double productivity. Especially in the short term, which is when you are demanding your changes.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:43:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: i agree. and what ive been getting at is that after 2 years the LAG still isn't fixed. that's all im asking for. then you can add as much heavy stuff as you want.
I don't think you understand how software is developed. The team that works on netcode is not the one working on dropsuits, or weapons, or map design, or audio, or anything else. Stopping work on the other things and putting all those people on the netcode would not mean that it gets done faster. In truth it would stop progress for at least a short while as the new members would have to be brought up to speed, and learn the ins and outs of that particular section of code. It is not as simple as doubling the staff to double productivity. Especially in the short term, which is when you are demanding your changes. you're right, i have no idea how all that works, but i do know that 2 years isn't "short term". no matter how you word it, the lag needs to be fixed ASAP.
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5721
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:47:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones? I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry. plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game. also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing. but I digress. maybe it's just me.
You haven't even considered this could be a pulse laser. If it is then the same laser characteristics could apply to it in the same way they do the Laser Rifle.
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Trey Hardin
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:47:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Tactical Forecaster wrote:you are forgetting that heavies have the least high and low slots and also do not have an equipment slot we gain 2 heavy weapons at the cost of explosives, nanohives, repair tool, scanners, injectors and any other equipment that i failed to mention also we are the slowest suit in the game, we have the largest hit box , and we are also the easiest to be scanned. this is the trade off for high hp and 2 weapons
any more dumb comments about the heavy slowest suit in the game and largest hitbox should be givens for the suit with THE MOST EHP IN THE GAME, so that's not a sacrifice. that's called fair. even if you have the highest profile in the game, how many medium frame players do you know of that try to avoid ADV scanners? not many im willing to bet, so that point is null and void. its also pretty fair that you have the least amount of slots in the game. you have the most ehp and the 2 strongest guns in the game. let's not forget that us SCOUTS have a fraction of your ehp, some of the least cpu in the game and some of the least slots in the game. so that statement is also pointless. most of your statements on paper would seem reasonable, but if you actually played the game, then you would know that more than half of them are completely useless arguments. So by your logic it makes scence that they have less weapons just because you have less health and low slot count. All of this makes scence. A light frame is supposed to be made of paper. It is not meant for open combat. So stop being stupid both suits need some love from CCP. So don't bash each other.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:49:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: you're right, i have no idea how all that works, but i do know that 2 years isn't "short term". no matter how you word it, the lag needs to be fixed ASAP.
There have been improvements in that time.
It used to be a lot worse.
Just because it isn't as fast as you like it doesn't mean they are not working on it as fast as they can.
CCP isn't a good development house, expecting them to produce high quality coding is a poor decision on your part.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Orin the Freak
The Solecism of Limitation
682
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:09:00 -
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Heavies need Gallente and Amarr heavy weapons. I'd say a Gallente weapon would work something like the Gallente blaster AR, but fire bigger projectiles, much slower than the HMG, but dealing similar DPS. Then the Amarr would have a wide-beam laser cannon that would work something like the laser rifle, only higher damage, but a much faster overheat, and sound way cooler. .. Or something.
But honestly, I don't see us getting any new weapons for at least 5 or 6 months, and even that is doubtful. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:45:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:Heavies need Gallente and Amarr heavy weapons. I'd say a Gallente weapon would work something like the Gallente blaster AR, but fire bigger projectiles, much slower than the HMG, but dealing similar DPS. Then the Amarr would have a wide-beam laser cannon that would work something like the laser rifle, only higher damage, but a much faster overheat, and sound way cooler. .. Or something.
But honestly, I don't see us getting any new weapons for at least 5 or 6 months, and even that is doubtful. i dunno...i hear 1.8 is gonna be pretty big...
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Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
228
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:04:00 -
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well we scouts do have 2 suits, heavies only one, and they cant use equipment, but they have 2 exclusive weapons so we are kind into the same lvl
Dragons don't have friends. The nearest we can get to the idea is an enemy who is still alive.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2948
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:07:00 -
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I'm surprised that no one notice that you can put 2 officer weapons on a proto commando.....
Glad to be the first one that thought of it....than went into a match using said officer fit
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2948
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:08:00 -
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Phazoid wrote:well we scouts do have 2 suits, heavies only one, and they cant use equipment, but they have 2 exclusive weapons so we are kind into the same lvl Heavies have 3 suits.....they can only use a heavy weapon on 2 of them.....
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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Grand Master Kubo
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:45:00 -
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Dude, do you know how ridiculous it would look for a scout to run around with heavy weapons. Heck, I'm just surprised they can lift up the Plasma Cannon and Swarm Launcher.
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Amarrgheddon
Warcaste
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Posted - 2014.01.15 22:47:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Amarrgheddon wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:you know what? just forget that I even said anything, I'm apparently hated by most heavies now... well no personal attacks were intended, if that means anything at this point. please work on my fits, others aren't as important. what? you mean suits? how about: Amarrgheddon wrote:please fix the lag issues, as this is most important out of all.
I didn't mean anything. I was trying to point out how stupid this thread is. |
Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.15 23:02:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Phazoid wrote:well we scouts do have 2 suits, heavies only one, and they cant use equipment, but they have 2 exclusive weapons so we are kind into the same lvl Heavies have 3 suits.....they can only use a heavy weapon on 2 of them..... So where are these two mysterious suits last time I checked the amarr heavy is all their is and if your counting the two other variants go to a corner they don't count. And imo the commando is for medium guys not heavies
We fight for the future of the State not our
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castba
Penguin's March
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Posted - 2014.01.15 23:05:00 -
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ITT: scout attacks heavies then when heavies reply states it is all about fixing lag.
Nothing against you OP, but perhaps say what you mean from the outset in future... Unless you actually meant to complain about heavies? |
Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.15 23:05:00 -
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It's funny because the reason why heavies can carry heavy weapons is because they are heavy. If a medium suit tried to fire these weapons it would tear their arms apart or melt the armor on the suit. Just like if a regular human picked up any light weapon and fired it it would either shock them to death, melt their arms, catch them on fire, or just straight up teat their arms of
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4705
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Posted - 2014.01.15 23:18:00 -
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So... is this a complaint about heavies wanting to have more than 1 heavy AI gun? You think it's too much to ask that after 2 years we want more than 2 weapons and 1 racial suit?
Pardon me being rude, but **** off.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:14:00 -
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Amarrgheddon wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own? I personally think the scout is op. If you haven't found something that you can call your own, you should grab a medium frame and join the herd.
Guys he must mean the scout is - Overtly Pretty? or maybe he is referring to the Original Poster?
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:16:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Phazoid wrote:well we scouts do have 2 suits, heavies only one, and they cant use equipment, but they have 2 exclusive weapons so we are kind into the same lvl Heavies have 3 suits.....they can only use a heavy weapon on 2 of them..... So where are these two mysterious suits last time I checked the amarr heavy is all their is and if your counting the two other variants go to a corner they don't count. And imo the commando is for medium guys not heavies
The commando is a huge waste of isk. Even the commandos I know in commando channels keep saying how they cannot making any isk running them. And the basic commando is just lol worthy. |
TunRa
NEW OMENS
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:25:00 -
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A lot of these sound like troll posts.
Thanks CCP Foxfour
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Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:44:00 -
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I've seen a heavy (Sentinal) guarding an objective with a shotgun. Kind of makes sense if he hasn't unlocked HMGs yet or has a Commando outfit that he normally uses.
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I'd like to see the old swarms as a heavy variant ie 400m range, more damage. More ammo in the light weapon clips base on basic heavy level ... They should have snail clips... SAWs... An automatic shotgun etc
=][= Scouts jumping should take a much smaller percentage of stamina.
Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
415
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Posted - 2014.01.16 01:27:00 -
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I'll take a stab at this.
The Sentinel suit is designed to use Heavy Weapons. Why you ask? They sacrifice equipment slots and speed, have a larger hitbox, and are far easier to detect then any other suit, not to mention has only a few slots, with 4 of them being low slots. We have VERY few options available for competent suit builds.
That is the price we pay to be specialized in said weapons. You might say high Ehp is a reasonable trade off for losing out on all the stuff i just listed. Yet Logistic suits brick tanking to almost a comparable level without losing ANY of the things a Heavy user above would lose to compensate, makes me have a very different opinion than you on feasible tradeoffs.
We sacrifice a plethora helpful stats for the sole purpose of using one of two weapons, a heavy grenade that doesn't exist, and a limited amount of useful mods to place in our 4 low slots. We have almost no possible variations on gameplay when using the intended weapons for our suit. It's either CQC or Anti Vehicle (or being bored throwing water balloons at infantry).
You think all this is perfectly fine simply because you don't enjoy playing a scout anymore because you have low ehp? After reading your thread that is your entire argument. You have low ehp, so until that gets fixed Heavys need to continue to be on the shelf thats been rotting away for 2 years. You aren't even recognizing your own strengths while inside a Scout suit. You also don't even know how the cloaking device you will be getting next patch is going to effect gameplay with your low ehp, it may prove to turn the tide in your favor. You have strange logic that i can't really seem to call anything but selfish.
On a side note, what the hell does the development team that works on latency have ANYTHING to do with the development of content? And why should the lack of competently fixing the latency interfere in any way with the development of new content for this game, be it Heavy or Scout related?
I change my opinion of you. You are ignorant and selfish.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2981
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Posted - 2014.01.16 01:30:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Phazoid wrote:well we scouts do have 2 suits, heavies only one, and they cant use equipment, but they have 2 exclusive weapons so we are kind into the same lvl Heavies have 3 suits.....they can only use a heavy weapon on 2 of them..... So where are these two mysterious suits last time I checked the amarr heavy is all their is and if your counting the two other variants go to a corner they don't count. And imo the commando is for medium guys not heavies I was counting "classes" (basic, commando, sentinel)
But if you're talking about racial suits than yes they have 1....and if your talking about racial heavy weapons, they have 2
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2981
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Posted - 2014.01.16 01:32:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Phazoid wrote:well we scouts do have 2 suits, heavies only one, and they cant use equipment, but they have 2 exclusive weapons so we are kind into the same lvl Heavies have 3 suits.....they can only use a heavy weapon on 2 of them..... So where are these two mysterious suits last time I checked the amarr heavy is all their is and if your counting the two other variants go to a corner they don't count. And imo the commando is for medium guys not heavies The commando is a huge waste of isk. Even the commandos I know in commando channels keep saying how they cannot making any isk running them. And the basic commando is just lol worthy. Well who the friglets have you been talking to? Most of us actually make a pretty big profit.......running the BASIC commando no less.....
You only say the commando is a waste....but that's cause no one is ballsy enough to use a proto one.....let alone use it with 2 officer light weapons.
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
2525
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Posted - 2014.01.16 01:41:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim wrote:Not all heavies.
But seriously. This game has been 'released' for how long and their is still only 2 Heavy weapons?!
I don't think it's them being greedy. I think they just want more than 2 things to call their own. and what can I, a scout, call my own? getting 2 shotted?
"Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist" -Draxus Prime
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4708
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Posted - 2014.01.16 01:50:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing.
This right here, has to be the stupidest thing I've EVER heard on this forum. I've been here since way back in closed beta when there was 1 map Skirmish 1.0... and this wins. Not even the best trolls in DUST history could beat this.
Heavies "want the highest dps and EHP"????? Ok Isaac Newton, isn't that what classifies a heavy as being, I don't know, a heavy? Having a high eHP is the very ******* definition of a "Heavy" Highest DPS you say? Well when your weapon is only optimal at 0-25m it SHOULD have a high DPS, and it's called a ------>>> HEAVY MACHINE GUN <<<------ not a Spitball Straw (though a few months ago, that's exactly what it was).
The more people play this game, is the more ridiculous the arguments get for classes that isn't theirs.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
1219
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:33:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing. This right here, has to be the stupidest thing I've EVER heard on this forum. I've been here since way back in closed beta when there was 1 map Skirmish 1.0... and this wins. Not even the best trolls in DUST history could beat this. Heavies "want the highest dps and EHP"????? Ok Isaac Newton, isn't that what classifies a heavy as being, I don't know, a heavy? Having a high eHP is the very ******* definition of a "Heavy" Highest DPS you say? Well when your weapon is only optimal at 0-25m it SHOULD have a high DPS, and it's called a ------>>> HEAVY MACHINE GUN <<<------ not a Spitball Straw (though a few months ago, that's exactly what it was). The more people play this game, is the more ridiculous the arguments get for classes that isn't theirs. slow down, speed racer.
this thread has long been resolved. no need to throw insults just because you disagree with me. as i said in a previous post (if you had actually read a few pages) the lag issues need to be priority, then you can have as much heavy stuff as you want.
see? you got your panties in a bunch for nothing.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3620
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:37:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones? I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry. plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game. also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing. but I digress. maybe it's just me.
The ONLY real reason to use heavy is For the HEAVY weapons. So in practice, they do have only 2 weapons.
any other weapon will be better used by a Med frame.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
1220
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:39:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones? I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry. plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game. also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing. but I digress. maybe it's just me. The ONLY real reason to use heavy is For the HEAVY weapons. So in practice, they do have only 2 weapons. any other weapon will be better used by a Med frame. i would have to disagree. Rail Rifles are pretty effective on heavy suits. but i see what you're getting at. if they could ONLY use heavy weapons, then i would be much more sympathetic, but even if it's not heavy weaponry, they can still use everything else.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3621
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:47:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones? I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry. plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game. also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing. but I digress. maybe it's just me. The ONLY real reason to use heavy is For the HEAVY weapons. So in practice, they do have only 2 weapons. any other weapon will be better used by a Med frame. i would have to disagree. Rail Rifles are pretty effective on heavy suits. but i see what you're getting at. if they could ONLY use heavy weapons, then i would be much more sympathetic, but even if it's not heavy weaponry, they can still use everything else.
They can. But no one except HMG lovers or Forge gun AVers will say: ''Oh yeah! im gonna Go Sentinel proto to use this Shotgun/AR/RR,etc...''
Why? Because even if HP is very nice (Not very far from what logis can achieve thou): Lack of mobility,lack of equipment slots and huge Hitbox are not. So anyone thinking in the competitive side of dust will prefer a faster , more adaptable suit.
I HONESTLY dont know ANYONE who got into Sentinels to use anything but a Heavy weapon. I might be wrong, but i stand by my opinion.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
1222
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:50:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:they can use ANY weapon in the game PLUS 2 other ones? I see posts and hear people talking about how heavies only have 2 weapons when in reality, they have EVERY weapon. and then they want more heavy weapons, which is reasonable I suppose, but those are weapons ONLY heavies will be able to use. I can see why they want them, but they shouldn't be a priority in this game. last time I recall, my scout suit can't carry a HMG, but that heavy can carry a Shotgun, Rail Rifle, or any other weapon that I can carry. plus did anyone ever think about the fact that if there's a heavy weapon that has similar dps to the HMG but is LONG RANGE, that would be ridiculously OP? already, all 4 of the rifles are considered OP, now imagine a gun with twice the dps and even more range, and is fitted on the highest ehp suit in the game. also, I won't say that HMGs are OP, but I will say that I find it funny that heavies want to have the most ehp in the game AND the most dps. sounds a bit greedy if you ask me, especially when there are other much more important mechanics that need fixing. but I digress. maybe it's just me. The ONLY real reason to use heavy is For the HEAVY weapons. So in practice, they do have only 2 weapons. any other weapon will be better used by a Med frame. i would have to disagree. Rail Rifles are pretty effective on heavy suits. but i see what you're getting at. if they could ONLY use heavy weapons, then i would be much more sympathetic, but even if it's not heavy weaponry, they can still use everything else. They can. But no one except HMG lovers or Forge gun AVers will say:''Oh yeah! im gonna Go Sentinel proto to use this Shotgun/AR/RR,etc...'' Why? Because even if HP is very nice (Not very far from what logis can achieve thou): Lack of mobility,lack of equipment slots and huge Hitbox are not. So anyone thinking in the competitive side of dust will prefer a faster , more adaptable suit. I HONESTLY dont know ANYONE who got into Sentinels to use anything but a Heavy weapon. I might be wrong, but i stand by my opinion. you'd be surprised how many heavies i've seen with proto shotguns.
and even more so with light rifles.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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