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SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 24	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:27:00 - [1] - Quote You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 205	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:28:00 - [2] - Quote Huh? Your equipment will now cost 25% less CPU & PG. How have you been nerfed?
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 136	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:29:00 - [3] - Quote <---- Unaffected.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1825	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:37:00 - [4] - Quote When did they nerf logi Selling Templar BPO 300Mil Earn 25Mil+ ISK in Dust
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 764	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:42:00 - [5] - Quote i like all the new bonuses coming out. For some of us, it has been a long time coming to get the full lineup of all racial suits. *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2490	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:43:00 - [6] - Quote I like them too, the Calogi and Galogi bonuses are kind of lame but I love the old Galogi bonuses being given to all logis. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Aleph Rynedee Science For Death 22	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:44:00 - [7] - Quote As a logi I'm stoked. I can carry better equipment and get more range out of my repair tool. That's called a win-win in my book. Who cares if other suits can shoot faster or deal more damage? Your time in New Eden is destined to be short-lived, learn to accept the fact death is always a fraction of a second away.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2486	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:47:00 - [8] - Quote Another logi that is looking forward to the changes. We may even be able to squeeze that new cloak on and go all ninja-logi. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 173	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:47:00 - [9] - Quote He must've been one of those assault logis....Don't worry, DAT RESPEC SOON!
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 243	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:47:00 - [10] - Quote If those logi changes come through my Cal logi is going to be one heck of a support logi Medic. Reviving heavies with 100% armor? YES PLEASE Not to mention the buffed efficiency to Nanohive(R)s When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy

THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 338	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:47:00 - [11] - Quote SteelheadPep wrote: You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. +50% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +10 to max. spawn count per level. - Amarr Logi V +50% to nanohive max. nanites and +25% to supply rate and repair amount per level. - Cal Logi V +50% to active scanner visibility duration and +25% to active scanner precision per level. - Gal Logi V +50% to repair tool range and 25% to repair amount per level. - Min Logi V Ohhh CCP, I could get used to this variation of nerf! Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 163	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:50:00 - [12] - Quote Yoma Carrim wrote: If those logi changes come through my Cal logi is going to be one heck of a support logi Medic. Reviving heavies with 100% armor? YES PLEASE Not to mention the buffed efficiency to Nanohive(R)s as a heavy i think i love you.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1675	Posted - 2014.01.09 17:54:00 - [13] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: Yoma Carrim wrote: If those logi changes come through my Cal logi is going to be one heck of a support logi Medic. Reviving heavies with 100% armor? YES PLEASE Not to mention the buffed efficiency to Nanohive(R)s as a heavy i think i love you. Everyone who get's revived by him will be in love Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 25	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:20:00 - [14] - Quote I may be mistaken ,but our armour repair perk is no more, this means that you have to fit a repair mod to compensate, which means you lost a low slot. Before the ranting begins about how everyone else has to already, logis have less base HP than assaults/heavies that we are supposed to be with. Our speed is a notch above a heavy, and most logis have no side arm. We are even more squishy than before, and will have to be under the constant protection of a sqaud to try and stay alive.
ugg reset Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 432	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:25:00 - [15] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Huh? Support logi's equipment will now cost 25% less CPU & PG. Each of the logi suits get a specific support logi bonus. How is that a nerf? would you spend 2.5m sp to lower lower the spawn time on drop uplinks form four seconds to two? Thr33 is the magic number.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7709	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:27:00 - [16] - Quote SteelheadPep wrote: I may be mistaken ,but our armour repair perk is no more, this means that you have to fit a repair mod to compensate, which means you lost a low slot. Before the ranting begins about how everyone else has to already, logis have less base HP than assaults/heavies that we are supposed to be with. Our speed is a notch above a heavy, and most logis have no side arm. We are even more squishy than before, and will have to be under the constant protection of a sqaud to try and stay alive. The added slot count and extra PG/CPU allows you to easily compensate and more for the little lost HP. Sidearms are not necessary if you can actually aim. I simply cannot take you seriously if you believe that this makes logis 'squishy'. And the speed difference between a logi is not 'a notch above a heavy', it is 'a notch below assault'. It is marginally lower, akin to the difference between the Amarr frames and the others. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7709	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:28:00 - [17] - Quote ugg reset wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Huh? Support logi's equipment will now cost 25% less CPU & PG. Each of the logi suits get a specific support logi bonus. How is that a nerf? would you spend 2.5m sp to lower lower the spawn time on drop uplinks form four seconds to two? No, but I would spend 2.5m SP for that AND the protosuit. Claiming that all that SP is just for that specific bonus is absurd. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1459	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:28:00 - [18] - Quote If it causes players to use different suits in game then I am up for any nerf/buff to any suit. I ran Gal logi before it was cool and now it is a fad. Sad really. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
CrotchGrab 360 The Men In The Mirror 1361	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:29:00 - [19] - Quote I just need to get closer and closer to the logi suit being a logi suit before I decide if I want to use it after a respec. I don't want it to be rendered useless after I use "the one and only respec". that Cal Logi bonus is SWEET with a capital SWEET, I don't like having to use an enhanced CPU upgrade, I'll even swap out the armour plate for 2 kin cats just to get to my team quicker!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1365	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:33:00 - [20] - Quote Its not a nerf, only making Logistics be what it was supposed to be in the first place. I am sad to my hack bonus go away, but the improved repair rate for repair tools is a fair tradeoff. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes

Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 161	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:35:00 - [21] - Quote This feels like a logi buff to me.
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 40	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:38:00 - [22] - Quote SteelheadPep wrote: I may be mistaken ,but our armour repair perk is no more, this means that you have to fit a repair mod to compensate, which means you lost a low slot. Before the ranting begins about how everyone else has to already, logis have less base HP than assaults/heavies that we are supposed to be with. Our speed is a notch above a heavy, and most logis have no side arm. We are even more squishy than before, and will have to be under the constant protection of a sqaud to try and stay alive. Lack of in-built armour rep shouldn't really affect any logi tbh (support ones anyway). As nice as it is to have it, most of the time I'm behind my green dots keeping them going and they act as a brilliant bullet shield, so little damage is taken. If I take severe damage it's probably because I failed at keeping them alive, in which case I'm dead and reps can't help me. If need be I don't mind losing 1 low for some self-rep. Edit: If you're running support you should always be around your squad/team anyway. The only time I'm not is when I'm in my speed fit to get uplinks down, and since that costs me a mighty 8k I don't mind dying in it.
ResistanceGTA Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden 89	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:45:00 - [23] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: If it causes players to use different suits in game then I am up for any nerf/buff to any suit. I ran Gal logi before it was cool and now it is a fad. Sad really. This is why we need a "Specced into before FOTM" tag on the kill screen. "Bastard FOTM GalLogi killed me!" "Wait, it says before FOTM." "NVM, I just hate him for him."
CaveCav D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 169	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:47:00 - [24] - Quote The only thing I'm sad for is my hacking bonus. I already run with an Armor Repairer so no big deal, I'll swap the Enhanced for a Complex. And I love my Repair Tool, so...yes please, if this is the new kind of Nerf Bat hit me multiple times. Dedicated Logibro, Gunner, Counter-Sniper
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation 677	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:48:00 - [25] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Huh? Support logi's equipment will now cost 25% less CPU & PG. Each of the logi suits get a specific support logi bonus. How is that a nerf? Come to think of it, its the same as scouts... *Assassination is my thing.*
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:57:00 - [26] - Quote The CPU/PG bonus is great and that's all that really can be said at this point. Not sure about the other bonus for each suit. What are they going to do when they decide to make new equipment? Make a new logi suit? I also wonder about the stats that the suit will have
50LD13R Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:10:00 - [27] - Quote As a Min logi, I can't wait. Any HP I lose by fitting a repper is offset by the fact that I might be able to stay under cover and still reach you with my rep tool. Oh, and bonus, fit better equip with the CPU/PG bonus.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:14:00 - [28] - Quote 50LD13R wrote: As a Min logi, I can't wait. Any HP I lose by fitting a repper is offset by the fact that I might be able to stay under cover and still reach you with my rep tool. Oh, and bonus, fit better equip with the CPU/PG bonus. I can't wait untill the guy you're repping does a sidestep and dies.
Galthur CrimeWave Syndicate 198	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:18:00 - [29] - Quote Remember when logi's could rep themselves, I did the most heals of anyone on my team with my zero armor repairers (I was a armor tank) Seasoned players never left academy because it did not exist, that's why we fight alongside and against noobs.
50LD13R Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:34:00 - [30] - Quote RKKR wrote: 50LD13R wrote: As a Min logi, I can't wait. Any HP I lose by fitting a repper is offset by the fact that I might be able to stay under cover and still reach you with my rep tool. Oh, and bonus, fit better equip with the CPU/PG bonus. I can't wait untill the guy you're repping does a sidestep and dies. Ummm....ok, now where was that Cal logi (looks around hopefully)

Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 423	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:38:00 - [31] - Quote Yoma Carrim wrote: If those logi changes come through my Cal logi is going to be one heck of a support logi Medic. Reviving heavies with 100% armor? YES PLEASE Not to mention the buffed efficiency to Nanohive(R)s your bonus would only effect your nanohives,plus theirs already a injector that does that... A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 6	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:42:00 - [32] - Quote Yep was just thinking that it looks like it will o lay effect nanohives supply and repair rate, which is still pretty damb good IMO.
Paladin Sas Pro Hic Immortalis 284	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:58:00 - [33] - Quote My inner combat engineer is happy :D
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 245	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:14:00 - [34] - Quote 50LD13R wrote: RKKR wrote: 50LD13R wrote: As a Min logi, I can't wait. Any HP I lose by fitting a repper is offset by the fact that I might be able to stay under cover and still reach you with my rep tool. Oh, and bonus, fit better equip with the CPU/PG bonus. I can't wait untill the guy you're repping does a sidestep and dies. Ummm....ok, now where was that Cal logi (looks around hopefully) sprints over with Kinetic cats and rezes the pore soul with 100% armor. Runs over to you and tosses down a triage Nanohive (Just in case) When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 245	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:15:00 - [35] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: Yoma Carrim wrote: If those logi changes come through my Cal logi is going to be one heck of a support logi Medic. Reviving heavies with 100% armor? YES PLEASE Not to mention the buffed efficiency to Nanohive(R)s your bonus would only effect your nanohives,plus there's already a injector that does that... No the proto version only heals 80% armor not 100% When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 41	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:21:00 - [36] - Quote Yoma Carrim wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: Yoma Carrim wrote: If those logi changes come through my Cal logi is going to be one heck of a support logi Medic. Reviving heavies with 100% armor? YES PLEASE Not to mention the buffed efficiency to Nanohive(R)s your bonus would only effect your nanohives,plus there's already a injector that does that... No the proto version only heals 80% armor not 100% LP store Caldari. Specialist injector revives 100%
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 245	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:24:00 - [37] - Quote Rizlax Yazzax wrote: Yoma Carrim wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: Yoma Carrim wrote: If those logi changes come through my Cal logi is going to be one heck of a support logi Medic. Reviving heavies with 100% armor? YES PLEASE Not to mention the buffed efficiency to Nanohive(R)s your bonus would only effect your nanohives,plus there's already a injector that does that... No the proto version only heals 80% armor not 100% LP store Caldari. Specialist injector revives 100% It dose ....guess im getting back into FW then When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 212	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:25:00 - [38] - Quote SteelheadPep wrote: You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. No your a slayer logi. Real logi's or "true" logis are those guys who die alot but have the most WP. Get in an assault suit if you want to kill people. The nerf is only effecting "slayer" logis 1.7 HMG hotfix works great. Now for more Heavy suits or guns soonGäó
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 534	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:29:00 - [39] - Quote I;m not going to lie I am really going to miss repping at 12 hp a sec on my Amarr logi, but the overall equipment bonus is good, the specific recial bonuses however are crap and the resuly of CCP being lazy and unimaginative. I run all the equipment on my Gallente logi a bonus to just the scanner is stupid in my opinion. The hack bonus suited the mimatar logi, the amarr bonus suited them as the "hybrid assault logi" gallente obviously would bneed a new bonus than what it currently has, and I can't even remember what the cal logi bonus is.
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 245	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:31:00 - [40] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: I;m not going to lie I am really going to miss repping at 12 hp a sec on my Amarr logi, but the overall equipment bonus is good, the specific recial bonuses however are crap and the resuly of CCP being lazy and unimaginative. I run all the equipment on my Gallente logi a bonus to just the scanner is stupid in my opinion. The hack bonus suited the mimatar logi, the amarr bonus suited them as the "hybrid assault logi" gallente obviously would bneed a new bonus than what it currently has, and I can't even remember what the cal logi bonus is. 5% bonus per level to shield energizer efficiency. When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy

Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 594	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:39:00 - [41] - Quote Since I'm using a Mass Driver I'm pretty much forced to go into Amarr Logistics, since you'll auto-die to Heavies and are at an extreme disadvantage to Assaults without a side-arm.
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 26	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:08:00 - [42] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: SteelheadPep wrote: You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. No your a slayer logi. Real logi's or "true" logis are those guys who die alot but have the most WP. Get in an assault suit if you want to kill people. The nerf is only effecting "slayer" logis You can tell a real support logi by their KDR! You can be my guest and look mine up, have been a support logi (24 mil SP) since open beta.I guess I am one of the few who would put enough plate on their suit to stay alive for that extra few hits to try and help.My dodging abilities are not up to par with many of you rascals but I will try my best with the new bonuses.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1524	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:17:00 - [43] - Quote I have no problems with the Logi Suits, the only problems I have is concerning the bonuses, if I don't put a repair tool onto my minmatar logistics I have wasted half the SP I put into the skills. What if, down the line, when we have Jammers, Shield Bubbles, Gun Turrets, Escort Drones, Webifiers, Webifier Mines, Dragon's Teeth, Sensor Array's and Goodness knows what else. What if I don't want a repair tool? What If the Minmatar Logistics fits my play style but I only use one of the bonus skills? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 376	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:21:00 - [44] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Its not a nerf, only making Logistics be what it was supposed to be in the first place. I am sad to my hack bonus go away, but the improved repair rate for repair tools is a fair tradeoff. Unless if course you don't use reppers, sub proto I get three slots and one of them is always going to be a scanner, the other two are generally spawns and nano's. Whats the point of a speed bouns (The whole reason I went minm) if in order to get any use from the bonus I have to be sitting next to people repping them? Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 167	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:41:00 - [45] - Quote if the amaar assault does change its racial bonus, i will be switching from amaar assault to amaar logi simply due to slot layout
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 373	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:41:00 - [46] - Quote I for one am absolutely devastated that my hacking bonus is going away and ccp nerfed me into a healing machine capable of keeping every teammate in a 45m radius at full armor Oh wait, I can still fit complex codebreakers to the numerous lowslots like I already did AND heal all the things
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1520	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:42:00 - [47] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Huh? Support logi's equipment will now cost 25% less CPU & PG. Each of the logi suits get a specific support logi bonus. How is that a nerf? Squishy now.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1523	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:53:00 - [48] - Quote A logi is a lot slower than an assault if you take into account how far they can run. Maybe you can run at the same speed as Usain Bolt, but if you only make it 10 feet before you're bent over with your hands on your knees you can't claim to be almost as fast as him. That said, in no way does this make a logi squishy. The 5 hp per sec isn't anywhere near high enough to count as part of your tank. If you repaired 50 hp per second, maybe. With the fitting reduction to equipment you can use higher level plates and extenders, making up for any slot you sacrifice for tank regen. Or, instead of a repper, you could just carry one of the repping hives. If you take a serious amount of armor damage you can use it to top off before the next fight. Especially if you're a Caldari logi. All this change does is give assault suits a bonus to damage potential, while leaving logis the option of being amazing with equipment while still having one of the stiffest tanks around.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2671	Posted - 2014.01.09 23:00:00 - [49] - Quote I'll probably drop the MIN suit and go GAL or CAL. I'm an equipment specialist and rarely use a repair tool. Caldari would probably fit my play style best as far as the bonus, but due to a lack of slots I'll probably opt for GAL. Proto uplinks are already very quick spawning and the Amar suit is gimped for slots so it's trash. That means giving up use of my SEVR suit, but so be it. Given the chance I'll dump the MD. It's a fun weapon but with boost to RoF on all those auto weapons it will be suicide to carry.
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 27	Posted - 2014.01.10 03:03:00 - [50] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: A logi is a lot slower than an assault if you take into account how far they can run. Maybe you can run at the same speed as Usain Bolt, but if you only make it 10 feet before you're bent over with your hands on your knees you can't claim to be almost as fast as him. That said, in no way does this make a logi squishy. The 5 hp per sec isn't anywhere near high enough to count as part of your tank. If you repaired 50 hp per second, maybe. With the fitting reduction to equipment you can use higher level plates and extenders, making up for any slot you sacrifice for tank regen. Or, instead of a repper, you could just carry one of the repping hives. If you take a serious amount of armor damage you can use it to top off before the next fight. Especially if you're a Caldari logi. All this change does is give assault suits a bonus to damage potential, while leaving logis the option of being amazing with equipment while still having one of the stiffest tanks around. The base HP for logi suits is about 60 Hp less than the average assault, that is a hunk of burning love in my book. Now if you have to add a repair mod to one of your low slots that's easily 100+Hp that you had before that is used up for something your suit had before . The rep hives work if you stand still not so good in the middle of a fire fight when you are dancing around. With the assault suits getting more killing power these issues will become even more obvious. Skilled into Gal logi after the Cal logi adjustment, the equip. Bonus is nice to have on all frames.The racial bonuses are hit or miss and don't seem to have much of a wow factor IMO.

Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 668	Posted - 2014.01.10 03:14:00 - [51] - Quote THIS PATCH IS FOR ALL TRUE LOGIS! A TRUE LOGI DOES NOT CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH DPS HE GIVES OR HOW MUCH ARMOR AND SHIELD HE HAS! HE ONLY CARES ABOUT SUPPORTING HIS BATTLE BROTHERS! ANYTHING ELSE AND YOUR ARE A FALSE LOGI AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED ACCORDINGLY! But seriously i cant wait to use the new minnie logi. I can finally be the ultimate medic. Thank you CCP for listening to the true logis and ignoring the kill nuts who use the logi suit just to score kills.
Twelve Guage Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 36	Posted - 2014.01.10 03:51:00 - [52] - Quote Only thing I hate is that ccps maybe taking my hacking bonus away I'm still going to be around for better or worse. When you support your team they support you.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1556	Posted - 2014.01.10 03:55:00 - [53] - Quote I admit, I will most certainly miss the free armor rep. Otherwise, best nerf evar! MOAR NERFS! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2065	Posted - 2014.01.10 04:44:00 - [54] - Quote Get those Core Reppers ready fellas, Ryno is coming through in a tanked out Gallente Heavy - and I only stop to reload. Beer before Liquor, never sicker. Toothpaste before Orange Juice, you're dead.
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 90	Posted - 2014.01.10 04:50:00 - [55] - Quote all I got from this was the following: 1.) Run free suits for the time being. You will not know what you may like now with the drop suit update. You may not even stay in the same role you were in before. The downfall is that you maybe at a severe disadvantage when facing others who "jumped right on in". However you are at an advantage when it comes to planning out what you like and what you need to do. 2.) If anything, start dropping skill points into dropsuit upgrades. This is the killer for many people, some may forget that the suit's full potential comes from upgrades not the suit by itself. If you max out core upgrades along with electronics and engineering, you can fit advance modules on a militia suit and so on. 3.) For the logistics players, we have the option of fitting on a repair module if we wanted to but will give up a low slot and space just to get the old bonus back. 4.) We need to consider our profile level a little more when making outfits. With the Gallente Logi bonus and scanners the way they are now, profile levels need considering but only if you run alone. If in a squad it shouldn't matter as much. Thoughts? Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Tends to flip the table when seeing the words: YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 92	Posted - 2014.01.10 07:15:00 - [56] - Quote delete Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Tends to flip the table when seeing the words: YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 29	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:05:00 - [57] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: THIS PATCH IS FOR ALL TRUE LOGIS! A TRUE LOGI DOES NOT CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH DPS HE GIVES OR HOW MUCH ARMOR AND SHIELD HE HAS! HE ONLY CARES ABOUT SUPPORTING HIS BATTLE BROTHERS! ANYTHING ELSE AND YOUR ARE A FALSE LOGI AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED ACCORDINGLY! But seriously i cant wait to use the new minnie logi. I can finally be the ultimate medic. Thank you CCP for listening to the true logis and ignoring the kill nuts who use the logi suit just to score kills. Supporting your team means you have to stay alive to help them, logis are easy targets now and any red knows to take us out first. Our suits have to have survivability in order to do that, the other bonuses will be for naught if you are getting cut down to much, as well as ISK it takes to run a decent suit on a regular basis.Trying to show that what we are going to lose is more significant than it appears (thus my wording nerf) .
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 702	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:07:00 - [58] - Quote I will continue as always... just further away from the firefight. which suits me fine I just like RE's more than reppers "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 100	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:19:00 - [59] - Quote I couldn't find a logi if I wanted to, with 75% of them being gallogissaults and a logissault mix for the remainder. Now that I think of it I haven't seen a Callogi in forever.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1327	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:23:00 - [60] - Quote Its not a nerf, its a change of role. And honestly, that is worse than a nerf. The Amarr Logi is no longer a frontlines medic, but an uplink mule. The Min Logi isn't a hacking specialist anymore, but a designated chubby chaser. The Cal Logi isn't a combat Logi anymore, but a hive mule. The Gal Logi is actually fairly unchanged. Most everyone has no problem with the actual Logi bonus change, and many actually like it. But, some people... some logis, have a problem with the racial bonuses not because they aren't good, but because they are too different and specialized. That is why some people, including myself, are upset about the proposed Logi bonuses. "I'm done!" slams doorGÇª walks back in and sits down "I still enjoy the forums."

Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2118	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:26:00 - [61] - Quote The problem with the logistics bonuses is that, instead of being role specific, they are equipment specific. It's the same with the Commando bonuses to some extend. Provided it fits, I'm going to have fun with a Minmatar Logistics with a cloak, repair tool and revive tool, though. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 670	Posted - 2014.01.10 12:29:00 - [62] - Quote As long as the klll nut players stop playing logi its all good.
Zaria Min Deir Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 493	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:02:00 - [63] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: SteelheadPep wrote: You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. No your a slayer logi. Real logi's or "true" logis are those guys who die alot but have the most WP. Get in an assault suit if you want to kill people. The nerf is only effecting "slayer" logis It's pretty easy to have a lot of WP, actually, nothing to do with being "a true logi", tbh. I personally, as a full on support logi for over a year, have no problem dying a lot to secure my team's victory, but I'd prefer dying just after I finish a hack, not just before... Just saying. The overall Logi bonus is great, it's awesome, I don't know what CCP was smoking when they decided not to make that the Logi bonus from the start... but the racial ones are boring and plain unbalanced. Fizzer94 wrote: Its not a nerf, its a change of role. And honestly, that is worse than a nerf. The Amarr Logi is no longer a frontlines medic, but an uplink mule. The Min Logi isn't a hacking specialist anymore, but a designated chubby chaser. The Cal Logi isn't a combat Logi anymore, but a hive mule. The Gal Logi is actually fairly unchanged. Most everyone has no problem with the actual Logi bonus change, and many actually like it. But, some people... some logis, have a problem with the racial bonuses not because they aren't good, but because they are too different and specialized. That is why some people, including myself, are upset about the proposed Logi bonuses. To be fair, the Cal logi, armour tanking and carrying his own rep hives? Will still be very combat effective, just not very logi like (so, no change there lol). And the Gallente bonus is a massive "**** you" to Scouts in particular, and to anyone who invested SP into dampening in general. Well, unless they make scanners next to useless for anyone else. So, that's also awesome. Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Mortedeamor 1205	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:02:00 - [64] - Quote SteelheadPep wrote: You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. mm yeah i will never run support logi again Im puerto rican we rage deal with it
Mortedeamor 1205	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:06:00 - [65] - Quote Zaria Min Deir wrote: GET ATMESON wrote: SteelheadPep wrote: You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. No your a slayer logi. Real logi's or "true" logis are those guys who die alot but have the most WP. Get in an assault suit if you want to kill people. The nerf is only effecting "slayer" logis It's pretty easy to have a lot of WP, actually, nothing to do with being "a true logi", tbh. I personally, as a full on support logi for over a year, have no problem dying a lot to secure my team's victory, but I'd prefer dying just after I finish a hack, not just before... Just saying. The overall Logi bonus is great, it's awesome, I don't know what CCP was smoking when they decided not to make that the Logi bonus from the start... but the racial ones are boring and plain unbalanced. Fizzer94 wrote: Its not a nerf, its a change of role. And honestly, that is worse than a nerf. The Amarr Logi is no longer a frontlines medic, but an uplink mule. The Min Logi isn't a hacking specialist anymore, but a designated chubby chaser. The Cal Logi isn't a combat Logi anymore, but a hive mule. The Gal Logi is actually fairly unchanged. Most everyone has no problem with the actual Logi bonus change, and many actually like it. But, some people... some logis, have a problem with the racial bonuses not because they aren't good, but because they are too different and specialized. That is why some people, including myself, are upset about the proposed Logi bonuses. To be fair, the Cal logi, armour tanking and carrying his own rep hives? Will still be very combat effective, just not very logi like (so, no change there lol). And the Gallente bonus is a massive "**** you" to Scouts in particular, and to anyone who invested SP into dampening in general. Well, unless they make scanners next to useless for anyone else. So, that's also awesome. mm yeah give it a few months when the average pub has maybe 1 logi..ccp will fix it until then i am soooo gratefull i am not only a logi anymore Im puerto rican we rage deal with it
Zaria Min Deir Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 493	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:17:00 - [66] - Quote And, I have to add, anyone thinking the Cal and Gall Logi bonuses are useless, isn't clearly very familiar with Dust... Grenade spam anyone? Now with 50% more grenades per hive? That replenishes them faster? Oh sweet, cause we needed more of that. And it sure helps that the grenade spammer can sit on a nest of rep hives to boot, epic! So, break out your own grenades to counter, let's play Nades514! And lol at your stealth suits. There's a gallente logi on the other team? "You have been scanned, biaaatch!" Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 75	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:46:00 - [67] - Quote im going to be sad that i wont be able to hack like i used to,
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 75	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:54:00 - [68] - Quote Zaria Min Deir wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Its not a nerf, its a change of role. And honestly, that is worse than a nerf. The Amarr Logi is no longer a frontlines medic, but an uplink mule. The Min Logi isn't a hacking specialist anymore, but a designated chubby chaser. The Cal Logi isn't a combat Logi anymore, but a hive mule. The Gal Logi is actually fairly unchanged. Most everyone has no problem with the actual Logi bonus change, and many actually like it. But, some people... some logis, have a problem with the racial bonuses not because they aren't good, but because they are too different and specialized. That is why some people, including myself, are upset about the proposed Logi bonuses. To be fair, the Cal logi, armour tanking and carrying his own rep hives? Will still be very combat effective, just not very logi like (so, no change there lol). And the Gallente bonus is a massive "**** you" to Scouts in particular, and to anyone who invested SP into dampening in general. Well, unless they make scanners next to useless for anyone else. So, that's also awesome. i really think that the gallente logi should be the chubby chasers are they not the ones that are the armor race? i like that there is a race that can hack super quick in fact thats the whole reason why i speced into the minmatar logi and focued on that as the core of my suit
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1878	Posted - 2014.01.10 14:24:00 - [69] - Quote My core focused will rep over 200 hp/s. I'll have to readjust all of my fittings, but it'll be an interesting experience for everyone Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
pagl1u M The Rainbow Effect 207	Posted - 2014.01.10 14:25:00 - [70] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: SteelheadPep wrote: You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. No your a slayer logi. Real logi's or "true" logis are those guys who die alot but have the most WP. Get in an assault suit if you want to kill people. The nerf is only effecting "slayer" logis I m a real logi but I also am good at killing and not being killed, dont spread the idea we are logi because we suck at shooting. Anyway, after 1.8 we are for sure going to be less effettive in combat, but we will also be way more effettive in our support role. I will repair 2 people from 30 m at the speed of 110hp/s,my god!

Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 536	Posted - 2014.01.10 16:29:00 - [71] - Quote Yoma Carrim wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: I;m not going to lie I am really going to miss repping at 12 hp a sec on my Amarr logi, but the overall equipment bonus is good, the specific recial bonuses however are crap and the resuly of CCP being lazy and unimaginative. I run all the equipment on my Gallente logi a bonus to just the scanner is stupid in my opinion. The hack bonus suited the mimatar logi, the amarr bonus suited them as the "hybrid assault logi" gallente obviously would bneed a new bonus than what it currently has, and I can't even remember what the cal logi bonus is. 5% bonus per level to shield energizer efficiency. Thanks, that fits with the previous logi theme of "survivability" while doing one's job. I liked that sort of bonus and used it "as intended" being able to survive while keeping my squad repped, revived, resuppllied, and aware of the battlefield. Damn you slayer logis for using our current bonuses for "survivability while shooting people in the face"
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 749	Posted - 2014.01.10 17:37:00 - [72] - Quote get your reactives on. Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Apply today! For the State Caldari Loyalist
Athrak Kinz Valkyrian Armada 21	Posted - 2014.01.10 17:58:00 - [73] - Quote Hate that logi's are gonna lose the passive rep but it's not that big of a deal. I don't even use scanners so that bonus really doesn't apply to me either (scanners are EZ mode), so I guess it's time to spec into Min Logi so I can wheel and heal. Full time Logi before it was cool. GÿàProud GallenteanGÿà
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 31	Posted - 2014.01.10 18:03:00 - [74] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: I couldn't find a logi if I wanted to, with 75% of them being gallogissaults and a logissault mix for the remainder. Now that I think of it I haven't seen a Callogi in forever. There are still a few of us support logis out there, but I 'm afraid our numbers are going to drop even further.Always run with a pen and repper (proto and /or adv.)except for my Dren logi will try to look out for you onthe field.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1293	Posted - 2014.01.10 18:12:00 - [75] - Quote The combat logi already exists, its called the assault class. I applaud CCPs laser focus on battlefield roles. "We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"


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