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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
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Posted - 2014.01.10 11:26:00 -
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The problem with the logistics bonuses is that, instead of being role specific, they are equipment specific. It's the same with the Commando bonuses to some extend.
Provided it fits, I'm going to have fun with a Minmatar Logistics with a cloak, repair tool and revive tool, though.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
670
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Posted - 2014.01.10 12:29:00 -
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As long as the klll nut players stop playing logi its all good. |
Zaria Min Deir
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
493
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Posted - 2014.01.10 13:02:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:SteelheadPep wrote:You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. No your a slayer logi. Real logi's or "true" logis are those guys who die alot but have the most WP. Get in an assault suit if you want to kill people. The nerf is only effecting "slayer" logis It's pretty easy to have a lot of WP, actually, nothing to do with being "a true logi", tbh.
I personally, as a full on support logi for over a year, have no problem dying a lot to secure my team's victory, but I'd prefer dying just after I finish a hack, not just before... Just saying.
The overall Logi bonus is great, it's awesome, I don't know what CCP was smoking when they decided not to make that the Logi bonus from the start... but the racial ones are boring and plain unbalanced.
Fizzer94 wrote:Its not a nerf, its a change of role. And honestly, that is worse than a nerf.
The Amarr Logi is no longer a frontlines medic, but an uplink mule. The Min Logi isn't a hacking specialist anymore, but a designated chubby chaser. The Cal Logi isn't a combat Logi anymore, but a hive mule. The Gal Logi is actually fairly unchanged.
Most everyone has no problem with the actual Logi bonus change, and many actually like it. But, some people... some logis, have a problem with the racial bonuses not because they aren't good, but because they are too different and specialized.
That is why some people, including myself, are upset about the proposed Logi bonuses.
To be fair, the Cal logi, armour tanking and carrying his own rep hives? Will still be very combat effective, just not very logi like (so, no change there lol). And the Gallente bonus is a massive "**** you" to Scouts in particular, and to anyone who invested SP into dampening in general. Well, unless they make scanners next to useless for anyone else. So, that's also awesome.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Mortedeamor
1205
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Posted - 2014.01.10 13:02:00 -
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SteelheadPep wrote:You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. mm yeah i will never run support logi again
Im puerto rican we rage deal with it
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Mortedeamor
1205
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Posted - 2014.01.10 13:06:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:SteelheadPep wrote:You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. No your a slayer logi. Real logi's or "true" logis are those guys who die alot but have the most WP. Get in an assault suit if you want to kill people. The nerf is only effecting "slayer" logis It's pretty easy to have a lot of WP, actually, nothing to do with being "a true logi", tbh. I personally, as a full on support logi for over a year, have no problem dying a lot to secure my team's victory, but I'd prefer dying just after I finish a hack, not just before... Just saying. The overall Logi bonus is great, it's awesome, I don't know what CCP was smoking when they decided not to make that the Logi bonus from the start... but the racial ones are boring and plain unbalanced. Fizzer94 wrote:Its not a nerf, its a change of role. And honestly, that is worse than a nerf.
The Amarr Logi is no longer a frontlines medic, but an uplink mule. The Min Logi isn't a hacking specialist anymore, but a designated chubby chaser. The Cal Logi isn't a combat Logi anymore, but a hive mule. The Gal Logi is actually fairly unchanged.
Most everyone has no problem with the actual Logi bonus change, and many actually like it. But, some people... some logis, have a problem with the racial bonuses not because they aren't good, but because they are too different and specialized.
That is why some people, including myself, are upset about the proposed Logi bonuses.
To be fair, the Cal logi, armour tanking and carrying his own rep hives? Will still be very combat effective, just not very logi like (so, no change there lol). And the Gallente bonus is a massive "**** you" to Scouts in particular, and to anyone who invested SP into dampening in general. Well, unless they make scanners next to useless for anyone else. So, that's also awesome.
mm yeah give it a few months when the average pub has maybe 1 logi..ccp will fix it until then i am soooo gratefull i am not only a logi anymore
Im puerto rican we rage deal with it
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Zaria Min Deir
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
493
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Posted - 2014.01.10 13:17:00 -
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And, I have to add, anyone thinking the Cal and Gall Logi bonuses are useless, isn't clearly very familiar with Dust...
Grenade spam anyone? Now with 50% more grenades per hive? That replenishes them faster? Oh sweet, cause we needed more of that. And it sure helps that the grenade spammer can sit on a nest of rep hives to boot, epic! So, break out your own grenades to counter, let's play Nades514!
And lol at your stealth suits. There's a gallente logi on the other team? "You have been scanned, biaaatch!"
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
75
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Posted - 2014.01.10 13:46:00 -
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im going to be sad that i wont be able to hack like i used to, |
Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
75
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Posted - 2014.01.10 13:54:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Its not a nerf, its a change of role. And honestly, that is worse than a nerf.
The Amarr Logi is no longer a frontlines medic, but an uplink mule. The Min Logi isn't a hacking specialist anymore, but a designated chubby chaser. The Cal Logi isn't a combat Logi anymore, but a hive mule. The Gal Logi is actually fairly unchanged.
Most everyone has no problem with the actual Logi bonus change, and many actually like it. But, some people... some logis, have a problem with the racial bonuses not because they aren't good, but because they are too different and specialized.
That is why some people, including myself, are upset about the proposed Logi bonuses.
To be fair, the Cal logi, armour tanking and carrying his own rep hives? Will still be very combat effective, just not very logi like (so, no change there lol). And the Gallente bonus is a massive "**** you" to Scouts in particular, and to anyone who invested SP into dampening in general. Well, unless they make scanners next to useless for anyone else. So, that's also awesome.
i really think that the gallente logi should be the chubby chasers are they not the ones that are the armor race? i like that there is a race that can hack super quick in fact thats the whole reason why i speced into the minmatar logi and focued on that as the core of my suit |
I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1878
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Posted - 2014.01.10 14:24:00 -
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My core focused will rep over 200 hp/s.
I'll have to readjust all of my fittings, but it'll be an interesting experience for everyone
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pagl1u M
The Rainbow Effect
207
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Posted - 2014.01.10 14:25:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:SteelheadPep wrote:You buffed the other suits, there was no need to nerf us. There are going to be alot less of us on the field, thanks CCP. No your a slayer logi. Real logi's or "true" logis are those guys who die alot but have the most WP. Get in an assault suit if you want to kill people. The nerf is only effecting "slayer" logis I m a real logi but I also am good at killing and not being killed, dont spread the idea we are logi because we suck at shooting. Anyway, after 1.8 we are for sure going to be less effettive in combat, but we will also be way more effettive in our support role. I will repair 2 people from 30 m at the speed of 110hp/s,my god!
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
536
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:29:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:I;m not going to lie I am really going to miss repping at 12 hp a sec on my Amarr logi, but the overall equipment bonus is good, the specific recial bonuses however are crap and the resuly of CCP being lazy and unimaginative. I run all the equipment on my Gallente logi a bonus to just the scanner is stupid in my opinion.
The hack bonus suited the mimatar logi, the amarr bonus suited them as the "hybrid assault logi" gallente obviously would bneed a new bonus than what it currently has, and I can't even remember what the cal logi bonus is. 5% bonus per level to shield energizer efficiency.
Thanks, that fits with the previous logi theme of "survivability" while doing one's job. I liked that sort of bonus and used it "as intended" being able to survive while keeping my squad repped, revived, resuppllied, and aware of the battlefield. Damn you slayer logis for using our current bonuses for "survivability while shooting people in the face" |
Ku Shala
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
749
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:37:00 -
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get your reactives on.
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Athrak Kinz
Valkyrian Armada
21
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:58:00 -
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Hate that logi's are gonna lose the passive rep but it's not that big of a deal. I don't even use scanners so that bonus really doesn't apply to me either (scanners are EZ mode), so I guess it's time to spec into Min Logi so I can wheel and heal.
Full time Logi before it was cool.
G’ąProud GallenteanG’ą
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SteelheadPep
SAM-MIK
31
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:03:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:I couldn't find a logi if I wanted to, with 75% of them being gallogissaults and a logissault mix for the remainder. Now that I think of it I haven't seen a Callogi in forever. There are still a few of us support logis out there, but I 'm afraid our numbers are going to drop even further.Always run with a pen and repper (proto and /or adv.)except for my Dren logi will try to look out for you onthe field. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1293
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:12:00 -
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The combat logi already exists, its called the assault class.
I applaud CCPs laser focus on battlefield roles.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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