And it would be slower and bigger, not a great scout in my opinion

This particular part is what concerns me the most: "Cloak can be deactivated by selecting it and pressing fire."

I have 2 questions.

Is the cloak limited to light frames, or can I put one on my commando?

And does the type of frame (small, medium, large) impact the effectiveness of the cloak?

You can only fit one cloak field at a time.

I have 2 questions.

Is the cloak limited to light frames, or can I put one on my commando?

And does the type of frame (small, medium, large) impact the effectiveness of the cloak?

Wondering how much charge NKs would take.

And why do i think that allmost every logi will have this equipped? Like they are on low health run around corner and cloak themself up. Well at least you cant cloak yourself forever and it has a recharge time. And good thing to know that its limited to 1 cloak field per fitting so no 3-4 cloaks on a gallente/minmatarr logi.

It sounds like a cloak user is still going to have to lower thier profile to stay off scanners so one or more low slots will be taken up by Profile Dampeners. If the GAL Logi scanner bonus is as good as feared it will be next to impossible to stay off the TacNet.

Even without being picked up the scanner will still alert you that someone is in the area so you can start scanning with your reticle.

Dropping fully off the grid is going to be very expensive.

Any semi-conscious player can immediately recognize that they're setting up a situation in which a player can have an indefinite cloak if they manage their shots and/or use low caliber weaponry, at least based on assumption. As stated, we don't know what will trigger a cloak to fail at the moment but I'd rather not even let it see the light of day. It's simple, if you partake in a combat action, you're de-cloaked. A shotgun scout with a cloaking device will be a murderer as is, we don't need to provide a complicated solution to a problem that doesn't exist yet.

- Once deactivated or it runs out it will start to recharge.
- Firing a weapon while cloaked will rapidly deplete the cloak field (a single shot from a sniper rifle, for instance, will decloak you)

Just a thought on this.

"...the enemy reticule will flash red if you run past it."

It would by a nice touch if your reticule flashed red even if a cloaked friendly ran past it.

For in game reasons, your suit's sensors can detect something but can identify if it's friend or foe. To get your attention it flashes red.

For game mechanic reasons, this would add to on the fly decision making in matches with friendly fire. It would increase the need to communicate on a team level. "I'm cloaking and moving here, don't shoot."


Edit: A few more thoughts.

-Cloaking should definitely hide you from a scan. That's the point.

-I'm mixed on Aeon's thoughts on cloak failure. On one hand, I feel like weapon's fire depleting your cloak with some weapons depleting it faster than other is a welcome change to a typical mechanic. On the other, I see his point. We'll see when it comes out.

-With bare minimum skills and no bonuses from suits/vehicles, what's the goal for max time cloaked if I don't fire weapons?
What about with max skills and bonuses from suits/vehicles?

Any plans for
- vehicle cloaks?
- higher tiers of cloaks such as improved cloaking devices, CovOps cloak only fittable by certain suits/vehicles
It looks like current cloaks would need some more disadvantages to make better cloaks worth it and not OP. Maybe a movement penalty?

As started in the other thread I sure hope CCP changes how the cloak works, because you should never be allowed to shoot while cloaked, not even if you get decloaked the moment you start shooting.

Another thing is I really hope they're giving Scouts a second equipment slot. It's something I've been suggesting even before this cloak thing, and now that most Scouts will likely be relying on cloaks, I think it's only fair they get another equipment slot so that they can still use another piece of equipment alongside the cloak (or two non-cloak equipment if they choose to).

I'm not liking how it seems the logis will be able to use this item effectively as well, and perhaps more effectively than the scout. I mean, 25% fitting reduction isn't too big of a difference from 50% fitting reduction if the Logi also gets more CPU/PG from extra slots. Really all a logi would have to do is leave one of the equipment slots empty and then they can still carry two more equipment and everything else as usual.

Perhaps the logi bonus should only be a fitting reduction to support equipment?

As started in the other thread I sure hope CCP changes how the cloak works, because you should never be allowed to shoot while cloaked, not even if you get decloaked the moment you start shooting.

I think this deserves its own thread.



https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134545&p=2

P.S. I'm genuinely happy for the scoutbros but what about us sniperbros?

I'm not sure why a sniper would prefer a cloak to carrying other equipment. If they are using a logistics suit then they'll have the room but will end up spending too much time fiddling with the thing. Long range snipers are already so far out of range they only need to worry other snipers and in that case they should be shooting at them and not hiding.

cloak to move somewhere, or snipe without counter snipe

Hopefully CCP were smart enough not to include the Cloak as part of the Logi bonus.

.........But I have my doubts......