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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.10 22:18:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:The only people who should get a respec are Minmatar Logis...those guys, they got it bad. Oh, and anybody who went into any form of any heavy.
Cal/Gal Logis don't deserve a respec. You joke right ? They have the best buff ever maded to all logi EVER. 50% more range with repair tool means repair from 50 meters you can repair someone while being out of range of his weapon EASILY!!!!!!! 25% more repair rate means Traige repair tool : 120hp/s and focused : 200hp/s. More hp rate means more point and faster. Don't forget these values are PER LEVEL. While us Amarr were supposed to be the Combat engineer and....NO **** this we just set spawn and then hide somewhere nobody can see at what point we sucks with these bonus. The min logi was never intended to be a medic support character. The extra speed and hacking bonus was best for an infiltrator role. Many of us chose min logi because we wanted to do infiltrating in skirmish, not be a full time medic. I don't care how awesome the rep tool bonus is because I don't want to play a medic full time.
A medic was always supposed to be a support role, CCP forgot what scoutz where for and still is scrambling to figure out what they are for. They definitely didn't really know what a logi was for on Uprising launch except for coloring assault suits yellow and giving them more equipment slots.
The scout was always supposed to be the infiltrator..Get in provide recognizance, forward spawns, infiltration and the hard counter to the heavy. meh lets just give them cloaks that will make it all better. |
Natalie Herondale
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.01.10 22:21:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:The only people who should get a respec are Minmatar Logis...those guys, they got it bad. Oh, and anybody who went into any form of any heavy.
Cal/Gal Logis don't deserve a respec. You joke right ? They have the best buff ever maded to all logi EVER. 50% more range with repair tool means repair from 50 meters you can repair someone while being out of range of his weapon EASILY!!!!!!! 25% more repair rate means Traige repair tool : 120hp/s and focused : 200hp/s. More hp rate means more point and faster. Don't forget these values are PER LEVEL. While us Amarr were supposed to be the Combat engineer and....NO **** this we just set spawn and then hide somewhere nobody can see at what point we sucks with these bonus. The min logi was never intended to be a medic support character. The extra speed and hacking bonus was best for an infiltrator role. Many of us chose min logi because we wanted to do infiltrating in skirmish, not be a full time medic. I don't care how awesome the rep tool bonus is because I don't want to play a medic full time. A medic was always supposed to be a support role, CCP forgot what scoutz where for and still is scrambling to figure out what they are for. They definitely didn't really know what a logi was for on Uprising launch except to coloring assault suits yellow and giving them more equipment slots. The scout was always supposed to be the infiltrator..Get in provide recognizance, forward spawns, infiltration and the hard counter to the heavy. meh lets just give them cloaks that will make it all better.
The cloak of invisibility like from Harry Potter?!
I like where this is going...
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
653
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Posted - 2014.01.11 08:45:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:RKKR wrote:I'm pretty sure that the suits will be useful too with that logic  . Suit's are all getting changed so yes reimbursal makes sense in line with CCP's history... to be honest i would prefer everyone stuck with their choices they made and if they want to utilize the new suits they can save SP and grind it out... But then the casual's would get scared because they would have to go and grind SP... and no one wants a hard game where you have to actually try on a console...
CCP should stick to their crappy UPRISING by that logic, because that was their choice . Feel free to still believe in the choice/decision myth in this unfinished game.
Grinding is not hard it's boring, games are made to have fun, not to be boring.
I find it funny that you try to give the casuals a bad rep, remember when everyone was sitting in the MMC? Those where all casuals too I guess?
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
187
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Posted - 2014.01.11 09:04:00 -
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Skihids wrote:
We can carefully plan and craft
Good joke. Everybody specced in the FOTM always in Dusts history so far. Only now we're beginning to see some more diverse strategies on the fields. Soon everyone will be crying for a vehicle respec once again as CCP fixes some obvious issues.
I might live with a full respec when we'll see racial suit parity with the addendum in the respec announcement that there will be no respec ifanother type of suits comes out (pilot suits for example). Of course those suits should come with a full racial palette or come in pirate faction variants with their own skill requirements like it's in EVE. All the debacle is just because CCP didn't bother to release all the suits after open beta :/
Of course I'd prefer only the Dropsuit tree respec right now, because the side skills are fine. |
IVIaster LUKE
332
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Posted - 2014.01.11 12:49:00 -
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Just say NO to Mulligans.
Respec = Mulligan. Fourrrrrrr!
"If you can dodge a Wrench, you can dodge a Duvolle".
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y
Public Disorder.
326
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Posted - 2014.01.11 12:52:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Put me firmly in the no respec crowd, can't even guess as to how many times I said on these forums, go shove your core flaylock up your cal logis a$$, you don't get a respec.
They hurt the game, they are contrary to the core tenet that your decisions matter, and the more they give them, the more people will start whining for them every patch. Don't even get me started on the idea of pay-to-win respecs, I might have a stroke.
But...
If 1.8 (or 2.0, might be more representative) actually does pull in all these new bonuses, and all the new suits, at least a dropsuit tree respec is in order. Full respec? I dunno, I mean I don't see why people need to make major changes to their core upgrades, those help everyone.
Why this and not a respec of weapons with the new sidearms and the recent 2 new rifles? Well, weapons are actually the least of all of the SP sinks in the game, I mean, everyone got the new rifles to proto in like a week. Takes a lot longer than that for a suit.
Choices do matter, but not if CCP forced you to make a false one because they released an incomplete game. If all I had right now was a minmatar heavy I would not be happy about it, I'd want to get that dirty duct tape covered women's self defense class target suit off me 5 minutes after the new one was released.
With all the suits out, it's almost like actually being out of beta. A fresh start for people using gear they were forced to use, not chose because it was OP, is quite fair.
TL;DR I hate respecs but with the massive dropsuit changes apparently coming out, it's time for at least a partial one. Discuss.
when you spec into and buy something, it shouldnt be able to magically change, thats like buying a car, and then the manufacturer are like IM SORRY BUT WERE GOING TO CHANGE IT and then they turn it into a 2 ton blow drier |
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