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RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 646	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:31:00 - [1] - Quote CCP changing their game goes against your claim of "they [respecs] are contrary to the core tenet that your decisions matter". Who's stupid now?
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 646	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:00:00 - [2] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: RKKR wrote: CCP changing their game goes against your claim of "they [respecs] are contrary to the core tenet that your decisions matter". Who's stupid now? I dunno, people who don't read the whole post? (That's two) Yes, it's clear that you don't know, I could make an asshat post too that I made this post was a bait too but I won't. (I guess I read more than only the first paragraphs of your post, Yikes!) You still talk about a limited respec. Maybe some infantry oriented players want to focus on vehicles(because those skills were changed too you know) instead? Maybe I won't need some core skills if I decide on a different suit? Maybe they help everyone in the long run, not on the short run...especially not for the new players. Judging from your first sentence...I guess you are just butthurt about those old times when you got raped by caldari suits with flay locks.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 649	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:34:00 - [3] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: you're no fun Who says I have to be fun? Quote: core skills, who doesn't need those? People that want to go the vehicle route, as I already stated. Quote: whatever Are you a girl? Quote: if you guys want to go all nerd rage Says the guy that wrote "go shove your core flaylock up your cal logis a$$, you don't get a respect." Quote: if you only get a dropsuit tree respec and not a full respec, it hardly matters to me. That's cute, you can have your own opinion, especially as a respect ****. My whole point was to make that obvious by just quoting one single phrase and that it's unnecessary to make any follow-ups concerning wether a respect should happen or not. Even hinting that a limited respect should be fine is contradicting that phrase.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.09 09:09:00 - [4] - Quote How are we supposed to discuss anything if you're ignoring other arguments that partial respecs are as stupid as no respecs?
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.09 18:14:00 - [5] - Quote Dear John, An insult is something like telling "if you guys want to go all nerd rage". ASKING something like "Are you a girl?" is just a question...you could have easily told me that you are not. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, but feel free to point fingers for trying to insult someone . I see that you state that I'm referring to someone else's statements and yet you mention "I'll give you that one" later in your text. Actually what the hell does it matter if I refer to someone else or not? Nothing...so it's funny that you suddenly react to it, no? You can rephrase whatever you want, but that still doesn't make it logical to only give a partial respec instead of a full respec. If you have trouble understanding that, you should read some more respec-'whining' posts because some arguments explain it pretty well. but well let's cut all this bullshit and let me ask you this? Why are you against respecs? Because decisions matter? Some people based their decision on a specific suit/skill/bonus. Ever thought about that If those choices weren't there in the first place that people would have made other decisions? You might not be wrong that people would want those skills back, but maybe not in the same order, maybe they want to put it in other stuff first, maybe not at all? Changing stuff will steal their "decision" away...something you seem to be against, so why are you against respecs? If decision would really matter, then CCP would test things thoroughly first before implementing it (and stick with their decision to keep it like that), which they don't... I hope all you anti-respec guys finally understand that the decision thing is just a myth.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:03:00 - [6] - Quote Everything is subject to change...except for SP investments...LOL
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:56:00 - [7] - Quote Same could be said about you John, so don't try to push my opinion in a corner like I'm some twit that won't change his mind no matter what. I know I'm not the one that started from the premise that 'decision matter' and then go on rationalizing that a partial respec is fine for reason that go against the original premise. I also like the fact that some people against respecs say you will have enough SP to skill up your stuff, but are afraid that respec will cause imbalances, it will happen anyway because it's made possible by bad game design, not 100% respecs. It's time to realize that this GAME is not perfect.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:56:00 - [8] - Quote Nope, as partial respecs are as stupid as no respecs at all. For reasons said above by me and other peeps. It still seems like you just have trouble with people that specced into stuff because they were OP and I'm not sure at all why you kept talking about 'decisions matter' in your OP if you think it's false anyway?
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.10 15:38:00 - [9] - Quote Doesn't matter if things are OP or not. There shouldn't be OP stuff in the first place, but this isn't possible due to the current state of the game, but it seems CCP are finally getting on their horses (and probably still have a long way to go to balance everything out/change things up). DUST will probably play a lot differently when they are done with it. No issues with stuff being OP should arise when everything is balanced out. Current "toys" that are being introduced should have been introduced when UPRISING released, that statement could be right in the future of DUST, but not now. A bonus changing? I thought you agreed that drop suit respect were OK? WTF? It just comes to this: the game is not 'finished' yet and respecs are inevitable as long as this game is not 'finished'. Blame the guys that forced CCP to 'release' DUST too soon if you would have liked to see it otherwise.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.10 15:48:00 - [10] - Quote Bethhy wrote: If you hasve speced into a proto repair tool and no longer has aspirations to be a logi? So what? the repair tool is still useful, and you got tons of use from it in the mean time. Same can go for any weapon... These skills aren't ever useless and will always have some form of use. I'm pretty sure that the suits will be useful too with that logic .

RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:34:00 - [11] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: RKKR wrote: Edit: Seems that the monkey is finally out of the sleeve.. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that particular saying. I'm curious what it means and it's country of origin? I assume most TSOL guys are from Oceania but I'm sure there are exceptions. Dutch, it's always fun to do these translations.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 653	Posted - 2014.01.11 08:45:00 - [12] - Quote Bethhy wrote: RKKR wrote: I'm pretty sure that the suits will be useful too with that logic . Suit's are all getting changed so yes reimbursal makes sense in line with CCP's history... to be honest i would prefer everyone stuck with their choices they made and if they want to utilize the new suits they can save SP and grind it out... But then the casual's would get scared because they would have to go and grind SP... and no one wants a hard game where you have to actually try on a console... CCP should stick to their crappy UPRISING by that logic, because that was their choice . Feel free to still believe in the choice/decision myth in this unfinished game. Grinding is not hard it's boring, games are made to have fun, not to be boring. I find it funny that you try to give the casuals a bad rep, remember when everyone was sitting in the MMC? Those where all casuals too I guess?

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