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Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3700	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:27:00 - [1] - Quote wrote: Skill at operating Amarr Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Amarr Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Amarr Assault Bonus: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level. Skill at operating Caldari Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Caldari Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Caldari Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level. Skill at operating Gallente Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Gallente Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Gallente Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level. Skill at operating Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Minmatar Assault Bonus: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level. Thanks to The Robot Devil for the information. Looks like Amarr Assaults will be useless, and Minmatar Assault will be the new FOTM. On the bright side, guess who's going Caldari Assault!! Original post- https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134232&find=unread Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1398	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:29:00 - [2] - Quote thx GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1795	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:30:00 - [3] - Quote Dat mini bonus is crazy, no way it will make it into real build. Selling Templar BPO 300Mil Earn 25Mil+ ISK in Dust
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2398	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:31:00 - [4] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Dat mini bonus is crazy, no way it will make it into real build. Complex damage module becomes 12.5% and still suffers from stacking penalties? It's not a big deal. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1795	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:35:00 - [5] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Dat mini bonus is crazy, no way it will make it into real build. Complex damage module becomes 12.5% and still suffers from stacking penalties? It's not a big deal. For some reason I thought it would be 5% added onto the 10% but tour way sounds more. Logical Selling Templar BPO 300Mil Earn 25Mil+ ISK in Dust
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5329	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:36:00 - [6] - Quote So the assaults are now going to be assaulting? I see no problems here. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 727	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:37:00 - [7] - Quote Sweet Sweet Minmatar Assault, how I shall be rewarded for sticking it out. And i was fianlly breaking down and thinking about spending some SP into a logi suit. saved by SiSi
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3148	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:37:00 - [8] - Quote But I liked the Minmatar Assault's sidearm bonus. F*ck damage mods. CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3703	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:38:00 - [9] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: So the assaults are now going to be assaulting? I see no problems here. Neither do I. Except the Amarr Assault will be USELESS.... Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 812	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:38:00 - [10] - Quote I CAN'T BREATHE Fans himself This...This right here. Amarr will become even more unstoppable as their dropsuits are geared towards Armor tanking. All they would need is 1 Armor Rep Module and the rest would be Armor Plates and ugh. Dat Amarr. They could switch that formula around and still be nasty. Caldari? They needed this and now with the Rail Rifle, they'll be FOTM worthy. Gallente? I wanted Armor Rep ;-; but I guess it makes sense for Armor Plates since that would mean we can fit less Armor Plate Modules on than before while adding on Armor Reps and whatever else. Minmatar...As a Gallente, I don't want none of that. NONE OF THAT. That Combat Rifle? DAT COMBAT RIFLE. Ugh. I already melt like butter but now it's going to be devastating. I know a few people who will be very happy to hear this. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 4303	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:39:00 - [11] - Quote Nothing wrong with the Minny bonus. +2.5% is nothing really. Gallente looks like it'll have the best bonus to me. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 96	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:39:00 - [12] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Dat mini bonus is crazy, no way it will make it into real build. Complex damage module becomes 12.5% and still suffers from stacking penalties? It's not a big deal. Yeah but you completely gimped the survival of your suit competing with shield modules then again a potential plus 10 RoF to light weapons including my Combat Rifle and Mass Driver..........OH BOY!! As fun as that sounds i can't agree with this direction Trust in the Rust! 7-Time Matar Mass Driver World Champion Combat Rifle is for Combat!
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5330	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:40:00 - [13] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: So the assaults are now going to be assaulting? I see no problems here. Neither do I. Except the Amarr Assault will be USELESS.... How? It's never going to die. EDIT: Although now that I think about it, Amarr / Gallente bonuses should be swapped to stay with their natural tanking styles. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 4303	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:42:00 - [14] - Quote Assault Bonus + Assault SMG + Minmatar Bonus We will be OP. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3706	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:46:00 - [15] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: How? It's never going to die. EDIT: Although now that I think about it, Amarr / Gallente bonuses should be swapped to stay with their natural tanking styles. The -25% heat buildup for laser weaponry. The only reason to go Amarr Assault will be for the most base HP. Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 113	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:47:00 - [16] - Quote Nice! But I would like to see racial specific bonus for weapons like commando got I support BPO removal and RDV to take your vehicles back
Aisha Ctarl Ctarl - Ctarl Empire 2698	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:48:00 - [17] - Quote These are major nerfs to the Amarr Assault suit...I'm beyond livid right now. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3706	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:49:00 - [18] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Nice! But I would like to see racial specific bonus for weapons like commando got I would too, personally, but I'm just really glad that they're finally making the Assault suit better at assaulting than a Logi. I'm a Logi and I'm saying that :o Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3706	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:50:00 - [19] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: These are major nerfs to the Amarr Assault suit...I'm beyond livid right now. I sense a full respec coming from these changes. I'll still go Amarr Logi, of course, but I'll cross train the Caldari Assault. Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 304	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:52:00 - [20] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Nothing wrong with the Minny bonus. +2.5% is nothing really. Gallente looks like it'll have the best bonus to me. currently 2 damage mods = 1.187 times more damage. currently 3 damage mods = just about 1.244 times more damage. With that minmatar bonus, 2 damage mods = 1.238 times more damage. Yes it makes a HUGE difference. It means that 2 damage mods on a minnie assault would = 3 damage mods on a different assault. Oh and LOL at the amarr stuff. CCP shanghai once again showing that they have never even looked at eve. EDIT: to expand. It appears that amarr rof bonus is purely there to make any amarrian weapon worse, because they will overheat way faster, also the repair rate bonus is more or less useless with how TTK is, oh and amrrian are the buffer tanking race in new eden. Switch the amarr rep rates bonus with the gallente armor plate bonus and things might make just a tiny bit of sense. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.

Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 197	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:52:00 - [21] - Quote So they're going to nerf the laser and scrambler rifles by changing the suit bonuses. Yay. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1400	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:53:00 - [22] - Quote I don't like how all the assault rof bonuses are generic and identical. I want diversity not uniformity. Might as well increase the rof on all the light weapons across the board. I would much rather see the bonus be racial and different from each other. Cooldown times, reload times, rof times, increased magazine, increased range, higher precision ratings, lower cpu/pg, increased max ammo and better zoom. There is a list that took me 10 seconds and I am stupid. I just don't like any of the bonuses being the same. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
The Black Art Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 302	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:54:00 - [23] - Quote Why would they change Amarr bonus? It's the only one that makes any sense right now. Either way I predict they'll give us a respec as the complaining will most likely be at an all time high.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3706	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:54:00 - [24] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: I don't like how all the assault rof bonuses are generic and identical. I want diversity not uniformity. Might as well increase the rof on all the light weapons across the board. I would much rather see the bonus be racial and different from each other. Cooldown times, reload times, rof times, increased magazine, increased range, higher precision ratings, lower cpu/pg, increased max ammo and better zoom. There is a list that took me 10 seconds and I am stupid. I just don't like any of the bonuses being the same. Hopefully no range bonus for Rail Rifles, those things are already OP Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1264	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:55:00 - [25] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Assault Bonus + Assault SMG + Minmatar Bonus We will be OP. SMG is a sidearm "Our Blueberries are better than yours" *My Terribad Bolas Launcher*
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3706	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:56:00 - [26] - Quote The Black Art wrote: Why would they change Amarr bonus? It's the only one that makes any sense right now. Either way I predict they'll give us a respec as the complaining will most likely be at an all time high. Hopefully a full respec.... >.> Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11660	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:56:00 - [27] - Quote Minmatar Glass cannons, kills anything it gazes upon but breaks when sneezed at. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1400	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:58:00 - [28] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: I don't like how all the assault rof bonuses are generic and identical. I want diversity not uniformity. Might as well increase the rof on all the light weapons across the board. I would much rather see the bonus be racial and different from each other. Cooldown times, reload times, rof times, increased magazine, increased range, higher precision ratings, lower cpu/pg, increased max ammo and better zoom. There is a list that took me 10 seconds and I am stupid. I just don't like any of the bonuses being the same. Hopefully no range bonus for Rail Rifles, those things are already OP I am up for any types of bonuses as long as they make the suit differnt from the other suits, Like the logi we have now all have bonus that is the same as the others. What is the point of skilling into a suit if its bonus is almost identical to the others? Make the suits totally different so the choice of suit means a lot. Seems lazy to give all 4 suits a RoF bonus. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3709	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:00:00 - [29] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: I am up for any types of bonuses as long as they make the suit differnt from the other suits, Like the logi we have now all have bonus that is the same as the others. What is the point of skilling into a suit if its bonus is almost identical to the others? Make the suits totally different so the choice of suit means a lot. Seems lazy to give all 4 suits a RoF bonus. I like the idea of just making the RoF bonuses racial (Combat Rifle RoF for Min Assault, Scrambler RoF for Amarr, etc. etc.). Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
ResistanceGTA Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden 85	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:02:00 - [30] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Patrick57 wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: I don't like how all the assault rof bonuses are generic and identical. I want diversity not uniformity. Might as well increase the rof on all the light weapons across the board. I would much rather see the bonus be racial and different from each other. Cooldown times, reload times, rof times, increased magazine, increased range, higher precision ratings, lower cpu/pg, increased max ammo and better zoom. There is a list that took me 10 seconds and I am stupid. I just don't like any of the bonuses being the same. Hopefully no range bonus for Rail Rifles, those things are already OP I am up for any types of bonuses as long as they make the suit differnt from the other suits, Like the logi we have now all have bonus that is the same as the others. What is the point of skilling into a suit if its bonus is almost identical to the others? Make the suits totally different so the choice of suit means a lot. Seems lazy to give all 4 suits a RoF bonus. Umm, that's the role bonus, which is the same across all suits, no matter the race, which makes sense. Assault=Assault, Logi=Logi, etc... Its the racial that should be different, and, that is what is different. I like that they are trying to change things, but hate some of the changes they made...

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7591	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:05:00 - [31] - Quote They KO'd the heat bonus on the Amarr assault? Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4350	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:07:00 - [32] - Quote I'm trying to think of how we're supposed to use Amarr Assaults now. I sort of guess you'll have to stack armor repair modules, but since Amarr suits have less modules that'll leave no room for armor plates so you'll have to shield tank. So a shield tanking outer layer with a quickly regenerating by soft armor inner layer. Yeah, that sounds Amarrian to me. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3709	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:07:00 - [33] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: They KO'd the heat bonus on the Amarr assault? Apparently. I must tell CatDog so I can watch him rage in chat!! Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
jerrmy12 kahoalii The Phoenix Federation 237	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:08:00 - [34] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Minmatar Glass cannons, kills anything it gazes upon but breaks when breathed on. Fixed I use a tablet so beware of typos
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3709	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:08:00 - [35] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I'm trying to think of how we're supposed to use Amarr Assaults now. I sort of guess you'll have to stack armor repair modules, but since Amarr suits have less modules that'll leave no room for armor plates so you'll have to shield tank. So a shield tanking outer layer with a quickly regenerating by soft armor inner layer. Yeah, that sounds Amarrian to me. At least you Assaults can get 400+ Shields :P The max I can get on my Logi is 368 Shields :( Works for dual tanking, but that's about it. Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2490	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:10:00 - [36] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Dat mini bonus is crazy, no way it will make it into real build. It's a shield suit. You have two low slots. This is to give it some punch while still being a paper tiger. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 530	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:16:00 - [37] - Quote If these along with the sniffed out commando bonuses go live as Dust is...well then so much for increasing TTK
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1488	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:24:00 - [38] - Quote Damage Modifiers on a Minne? Really? Please CCP tell me you are gonna tone down the damage on rifles now? Please? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5428	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:31:00 - [39] - Quote Aww they took out the one most characteristic feature of the Amarr assault and replaced it with poorly thought out, and generally not in keeping with EVE side lore, bonuses which really suck. Every Amarr assault liked their heat bonus, it wasn't the best but it was ours..... To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3744	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:32:00 - [40] - Quote For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)

Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3714	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:34:00 - [41] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot. Then the Caldari Logi would literally be unstoppable, as they're removing the Scrambler Rifle overheat bonus for the Amarr Assault Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 223	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:35:00 - [42] - Quote lol al will run mini with CR and stacked d mods. But hey I am not surprised that CCP again f somthing upp War never changes
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4355	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:35:00 - [43] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aww they took out the one most characteristic feature of the Amarr assault and replaced it with poorly thought out, and generally not in keeping with EVE side lore, bonuses which really suck. Every Amarr assault liked their heat bonus, it wasn't the best but it was ours..... If anything, the removal of the Amarr Assault heat bonus will only motivate me more to get out of assaults with the inevitable respec and go full on Amarr Scout. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5428	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:36:00 - [44] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot. Thats would break armour tankers..... Remove the Damage mod and potentially start fixing infantry combat To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3149	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:38:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot. Thats would break armour tankers..... Remove the Damage mod and potentially start fixing infantry combat That would effectively kill pretty much every niche weapon in existence, and guarantee that everyone will stop using AV weaponry for good. CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
Sick Metagamer Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:40:00 - [46] - Quote CCP stoles my commando and assault suit idea... GOOD!
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3744	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:40:00 - [47] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot. Thats would break armour tankers..... Remove the Damage mod and potentially start fixing infantry combat You and I both know that ain't happening Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 143	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:46:00 - [48] - Quote I knew Minmatar Assaults would get fixed some day. A +5% bonus to side-arm weapon clip was damn awful.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2075	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:48:00 - [49] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: So the assaults are now going to be assaulting? I see no problems here. Neither do I. Except the Amarr Assault will be USELESS.... Two Complex Armor Repair will rep for close to 15 health per second. It is not enough to keep you up when you are under fire, but it will get you back in the game fairly fast. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5390	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:49:00 - [50] - Quote Heavies get natural resist to match, so they won't have problems with that. Assaults are now ASSAULTING, no more logi gods. Scouts, I feel sorry for them. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3717	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:51:00 - [51] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Two Complex Armor Repair will rep for close to 15 health per second. It is not enough to keep you up when you are under fire, but it will get you back in the game fairly fast. Currently with my Amarr Logi I can get 20 armor reps per second with the same bonus, but that wasn't my point. My point was that without the heat buildup bonus, the Amarr Assault will only be even close to viable because it has the highest base HP. Besides, with 2 Complex Armor Repairers that leaves ONE Low slot for an Armor Plate, or anything else. Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5390	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:53:00 - [52] - Quote Just FYI: CCP Wolfman runs the Amarr Assault, so you guys have favoritism. Don't worry, for you, everything will be fine :D Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 231	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:01:00 - [53] - Quote Where's the scouts?! I want to see my new suit! Please fix the mic bubble bug...
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3720	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:03:00 - [54] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Where's the scouts?! I want to see my new suit! Scouts still get no love =[ If Shotty GoBang was running for CPM I'd gladly vote for him, he could bring all the major scout issues to CCP's attention. Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Avallo Kantor Scions of Athra 298	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:10:00 - [55] - Quote Assuming every assault is using their racial assault weapon, this RoF buff is going to be most disadvantageous to the Scrambler Rifle, as you are trying to control your shots, not spam them. Furthermore the max possible ROF is still limited by how fast one can press the trigger, so for most people the maximum possible ROF of the SR doesn't matter. The removal of heat bonus to Amarr, coupled with the ROF bonus to all assault suits will mean that the SR no longer has any advantages on being put on an Amarr Assault vs any other type of gun. While I don't mind the idea of having any assault being able to fit any guy, I feel that the racial bonuses of each suit should prove to be most advantageous to their own gun. (Such as the heat build up for Amarr) this bonus would not be so much that other racial suits couldn't run the weapon, nor so much that the suit feels gimped by wielding another racial weapon. Also as others have said, aren't Amarr supposed to be the buffer tanks?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5392	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:10:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aww they took out the one most characteristic feature of the Amarr assault and replaced it with poorly thought out, and generally not in keeping with EVE side lore, bonuses which really suck. Every Amarr assault liked their heat bonus, it wasn't the best but it was ours..... Uhh... No, it WAS the best. It made the SCR god mode. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4364	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:14:00 - [57] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Just FYI: CCP Wolfman runs the Amarr Assault, so you guys have favoritism. Don't worry, for you, everything will be fine :D Saint Wolfman, why have you forsaken me? It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 480	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:20:00 - [58] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Assault Bonus + Assault CR + Minmatar Bonus We will be OP. fixed it for yah Dedicated Shotgun Scout
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2675	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:22:00 - [59] - Quote The new amarr bonus is turd.....it should have stayed the way it was Proud member of the Commando 6 <3 Commando AK.0
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1014	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:26:00 - [60] - Quote Ehrmagerd! Real assaulting bonuses for assault class. Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP. Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.

AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 143	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:30:00 - [61] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: wrote: Skill at operating Amarr Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Amarr Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Amarr Assault Bonus: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level. Skill at operating Caldari Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Caldari Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Caldari Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level. Skill at operating Gallente Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Gallente Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Gallente Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level. Skill at operating Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Minmatar Assault Bonus: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level. Thanks to The Robot Devil for the information. Looks like Amarr Assaults will be useless, and Minmatar Assault will be the new FOTM. On the bright side, guess who's going Caldari Assault!! Original post- https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134232&find=unread There's your swarm buff boys.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2675	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:32:00 - [62] - Quote I guess I may be jumping ship with the amarr logi....and possibly amarr commando aswell..... :( Proud member of the Commando 6 <3 Commando AK.0
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 601	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:36:00 - [63] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: I knew Minmatar Assaults would get fixed some day. A +5% bonus to side-arm weapon clip was damn awful. The Minmatar Assaults were great until CCP nerfed the Flaylocks into being useless. Now they will be OP FOTM again. Sucks though because now I will lose my 100 round toxins. Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514 Working as intended.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1779	Posted - 2014.01.07 21:16:00 - [64] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Sweet Sweet Minmatar Assault, how I shall be rewarded for sticking it out. And i was fianlly breaking down and thinking about spending some SP into a logi suit. saved by SiSi I feel so sooooo happy if this makes it, but also slightly sad at my super-clip SMG going away. <3 my Minnie Assault, now if I could just get more heavy weapons for my fatsuit. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1497	Posted - 2014.01.07 22:04:00 - [65] - Quote Min assault might be UP or OP it depends on how it stacks against the assault suits with that 25% efficacy at level 5. Look at the Gallente which will now have more than 800 armor with 4 enhanced plates, a 10% DPS increase and 2-3 damage mods. I am not even gonna bother being a Logistics with these arounds. I am going to get destroyed.
Cris Sugau Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.01.07 22:16:00 - [66] - Quote Why is Assaults being FTOY a bad thing? Shouldn't Assault be the basic role, with everything else having lower numbers? A logi is supposed to assist assaults. A scout is supposed to run solo until the assaults arrive. A dropship is pointless (if it's not assault) if there aren't assaults to transport. Heavies are not supposed to be the main combat unit. Commandos are specialized for versatility in situations without support. A LAV is a speed boost for small teams. HAV should be fire support on open terrain. The assault goes in and has the health/speed/dps combo most suited for quickly moving around while destroying most targets. The only question is why players have to skill into Assault. Shouldn't that tree get a faction-specific lvl 1 unlock for beginners and have the basic blueprints with racially aligned weapons? (The BPO should be medium and not assault, though, because BPO mlt assault would be kinda wonky in terms of the effect it has on gameplay)
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3742	Posted - 2014.01.07 22:19:00 - [67] - Quote Cris Sugau wrote: Why is Assaults being FTOY a bad thing? Shouldn't Assault be the basic role, with everything else having lower numbers? A logi is supposed to assist assaults. A scout is supposed to run solo until the assaults arrive. A dropship is pointless (if it's not assault) if there aren't assaults to transport. Heavies are not supposed to be the main combat unit. Commandos are specialized for versatility in situations without support. A LAV is a speed boost for small teams. HAV should be fire support on open terrain. The assault goes in and has the health/speed/dps combo most suited for quickly moving around while destroying most targets. The only question is why players have to skill into Assault. Shouldn't that tree get a faction-specific lvl 1 unlock for beginners and have the basic blueprints with racially aligned weapons? (The BPO should be medium and not assault, though, because BPO mlt assault would be kinda wonky in terms of the effect it has on gameplay) Did I say it was a bad thing? I simply presented the information given to me. Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Cris Sugau Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.01.07 22:22:00 - [68] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Did I say it was a bad thing? I simply presented the information given to me. The thread title carried that implication. Maybe I'm too used to absolutely everyone being on perma-QQ mode on this board.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 189	Posted - 2014.01.07 22:23:00 - [69] - Quote I agree with Cris, and I welcome any changes which make Assaults the best Assaults rather than Logis -- which it appears these changes (if implemented) are intended to accomplish.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3744	Posted - 2014.01.07 22:34:00 - [70] - Quote Cris Sugau wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Did I say it was a bad thing? I simply presented the information given to me. The thread title carried that implication. Maybe I'm too used to absolutely everyone being on perma-QQ mode on this board. I can make a thread about tanks too if you want Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D

NOAMIzzzzz FREE AGENTS LP 89	Posted - 2014.01.07 23:28:00 - [71] - Quote Yessss! assaults are going to assault now yuuuuus
LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI 12	Posted - 2014.01.07 23:31:00 - [72] - Quote Hopefully there'll be a full respec as was supposed to occur. If not I won't be too enthused having to completely swap out of logistics. Will have to be stacking SP for about 2 months. If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
Kingseeker Kobra Expert Intervention Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.01.07 23:40:00 - [73] - Quote Gallente assault will be FOTY duvo with near balacs ROF and 120% to shields with a HP boost and triple damage mods? Lol ezmode I slay for the Empress.
CRYPT3C W0LF Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 143	Posted - 2014.01.08 00:02:00 - [74] - Quote LEHON Xeon wrote: Hopefully there'll be a full respec as was supposed to occur. If not I won't be too enthused having to completely swap out of logistics. Will have to be stacking SP for about 2 months. respecs ruin the game, you picked Logi because it was the FOTM? Tough luck I nom Nom on You :)
Clyffton Donovan Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 46	Posted - 2014.01.08 00:04:00 - [75] - Quote To all who are saying the damage modifier bonus on the Minmatar Assault bonus is no big deal..... Remember this, the Proto Minmatar Assault suit has 5 high slots. (I dunno if this has been brought up in page 2 or 3, ifso I apologize) This can be taken to new heights. Like with the Thale? With 5 Damage mods they are already pumping out 1050ish for headshots. Imagine with a 25% increase to your mods. Even with the stack penalties. Without the Racial bonus, you get about a 28.25% with 5 Mods. With the new Racial bonus it bumps that up to 35.3125%. That brings that head shot up to 1202 damage. Just saying guys. Combat Medic Zulu Squad Leader Invictus Maneo~ "I Remain Unvanquished"
LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI 13	Posted - 2014.01.08 00:15:00 - [76] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: LEHON Xeon wrote: Hopefully there'll be a full respec as was supposed to occur. If not I won't be too enthused having to completely swap out of logistics. Will have to be stacking SP for about 2 months. respecs ruin the game, you picked Logi because it was the FOTM? Tough luck I picked it because I got tired of being cut down almost every single match by multiple squads that ran the same suit. I actually would probably still use it but there's no armor repair bonus anymore. If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI 13	Posted - 2014.01.08 00:18:00 - [77] - Quote People got one for vehicles and I didn't hear that kind of BS for them when they had modules removed. Same thing applies to suits as far as I'm concerned. Same with people that even did Amarr assault for the cool down bonus. They got the shaft also so just like vehicles under that logic we should get suit respects because the base fundamentals of the suits themselves changed. Logistics no longer has armor repair bonuses. I can't really complain all that much though because I tucked some exp into assault variants so if there isn't a respec I won't die, but it's just an annoyance. If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1559	Posted - 2014.01.08 00:20:00 - [78] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: LEHON Xeon wrote: Hopefully there'll be a full respec as was supposed to occur. If not I won't be too enthused having to completely swap out of logistics. Will have to be stacking SP for about 2 months. respecs ruin the game, you picked Logi because it was the FOTM? Tough luck What about people who specced into Minmatar Scouts? Tough luck? I want a respec like crazy. Although I'll spend the points better and still be a minmatar scout, with assault on the side Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 586	Posted - 2014.01.08 00:22:00 - [79] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: LEHON Xeon wrote: Hopefully there'll be a full respec as was supposed to occur. If not I won't be too enthused having to completely swap out of logistics. Will have to be stacking SP for about 2 months. respecs ruin the game, you picked Logi because it was the FOTM? Tough luck I picked it because I've been using the Logi suit since Open Beta. And yes Logis need a respec, the passive bonuses completely change role of each suit.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1482	Posted - 2014.01.08 00:25:00 - [80] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Nothing wrong with the Minny bonus. +2.5% is nothing really. Gallente looks like it'll have the best bonus to me. That's exactly it, 2.5% IS nothing. You would have to make your suit a glass cannon to get any sort of benefit out of that racial skill. Marston VC, STB Director

LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI 13	Posted - 2014.01.08 00:26:00 - [81] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Min assault might be UP or OP it depends on how it stacks against the assault suits with that 25% efficacy at level 5. Look at the Gallente which will now have more than 800 armor with 4 enhanced plates, a 10% DPS increase and 2-3 damage mods. I am not even gonna bother being a Logistics with these arounds. I am going to get destroyed. The difference between a damage modded Assault suit and a Minmatar would be 11.5% damage vs 25% more HP. That would come down to your tactical play style I guess. If you're super accurate, good at long range attacks, and/or are good at getting the jump on people could probably easily destroy people with the Minmitar suit damage bonus. Otherwise Gallente would most likely still be king for the tanking suit. If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 416	Posted - 2014.01.08 01:08:00 - [82] - Quote Damn it now my suits going to be Fotm now A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 60	Posted - 2014.01.08 01:11:00 - [83] - Quote Am I the only one that feels like dropsuit skills in Dust should follow ship skills in EVE? Being that we skill into a specific races basic frame, (equivalent to T1 ships) and from there we have a general skill for role specialized suits (equivalent to T2 ships)? Have a level in the specialized skill would benefit suits of all races, but if you don't have the skills for one races basic suits you couldn't use it.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5446	Posted - 2014.01.08 01:24:00 - [84] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: wrote: Skill at operating Amarr Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Amarr Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Amarr Assault Bonus: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level. Skill at operating Caldari Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Caldari Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Caldari Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level. Skill at operating Gallente Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Gallente Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Gallente Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level. Skill at operating Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Minmatar Assault Bonus: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level. Thanks to The Robot Devil for the information. Looks like Amarr Assaults will be useless, and Minmatar Assault will be the new FOTM. On the bright side, guess who's going Caldari Assault!! Original post- https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134232&find=unread Again Minmatar content becomes MASS ALPHA STRIKE LEVEL DPS....meaning at any ranges below say 60m I'm ******....forever and ever......as if those dirty rebels needed even more potency...... massive speed advantage, shield regen, damage mod bonus...... To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Auris Lionesse SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 47	Posted - 2014.01.08 01:38:00 - [85] - Quote Hi um can we change the rate of fire bonus on gallente to idk a sidearm clip increase :)
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3757	Posted - 2014.01.08 01:48:00 - [86] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Again Minmatar content becomes MASS ALPHA STRIKE LEVEL DPS....meaning at any ranges below say 60m I'm ******....forever and ever......as if those dirty rebels needed even more potency...... massive speed advantage, shield regen, damage mod bonus...... You're forgetting that they have the least amount of HP... Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3758	Posted - 2014.01.08 01:50:00 - [87] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: LEHON Xeon wrote: Hopefully there'll be a full respec as was supposed to occur. If not I won't be too enthused having to completely swap out of logistics. Will have to be stacking SP for about 2 months. respecs ruin the game, you picked Logi because it was the FOTM? Tough luck I picked it because I've been using the Logi suit since Open Beta. And yes Logis need a respec, the passive bonuses completely change role of each suit. ^This Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Auris Lionesse SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 47	Posted - 2014.01.08 01:54:00 - [88] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Am I the only one that feels like dropsuit skills in Dust should follow ship skills in EVE? Being that we skill into a specific races basic frame, (equivalent to T1 ships) and from there we have a general skill for role specialized suits (equivalent to T2 ships)? Have a level in the specialized skill would benefit suits of all races, but if you don't have the skills for one races basic suits you couldn't use it. Yeah but Ccp has abandoned making the game like eve to be more like cod. We need to add capacitors to suits also, knock slots to eight, and add way more suits.
Denn Maell PIanet Express 38	Posted - 2014.01.08 03:36:00 - [89] - Quote I'm glad to be seeing heavies (Finally), but just when It seems like my GalAssault will be able to take advantage of the hybrid weapon CPU/PG decrease with shiny new hybrid sidearmsGÇªits gone? I was really looking forward to that hybrid sidearm but now your propopposing to replace it with more tank-inducing madness? I don't like being confused with someone who follows FotM. Also, Amarr Assault bonus to armor rappers? Isn't that their Logi's schtick? (Panic) Has anyone seen what their doing to the logis? Please don't tell me they're thinking of "rebalancing" away my PG/CPU reduction for my Gal Logistic!
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 325	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:00:00 - [90] - Quote So to sum things up everyone is in agreement right? These changes kill the amarr assault. Increase to RoF SCR already requires you to be able to pull the trigger 11.25 times per second to get max dps (not possible without a turbo controller). Now that will increase to 12.95 times per second, and it will only benefit turbo users. Loss of heat build-up bonus Well for those few turbo controller users that are left, now you will over heat your gun in like 1.2 seconds, so no reason to no use the equally effect CR instead. Rep bonus: I don't even have the words for explaining the complete disconnect from new-eden that is shown here. I guess we are going to add unicorns next just "because", why not, it makes as much sense. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.

HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 468	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:19:00 - [91] - Quote Lol. Always been strictly assault. Good for me. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI 22	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:33:00 - [92] - Quote I guess here's another concern of mine that there's no answers to necessarily at this time which has a very large importance. According to these new findings, for gallente and caldari assault suits, there's supposed to be a 5% per level add on to all respective armor and shielding dropsuit modules. Does this compound now with already existing skills? We will end up with a cumulative total of armor or will existing skills become removed and obsolete? Because under this principle we'd have the following: Gallente suits Gallente Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level. +5% per level to maximum armor, +2% armor module efficacy per level Caldari Suits Caldari Assault Bonus: +5% to bonus of shield extender modules per level. +5% per level to maximum shields, +2% shield extender efficacy per level Or now will the overall maximum increase skills be removed and replaced by these suit bonuses? If those skills disappear, are we going to get that SP back or is it just going to disappear entirely as some people have had happen to them prior? All things I keep thinking about... Other inputs????? If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
demonkiller 12 G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder. 315	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:36:00 - [93] - Quote assaults should always be majority of your team, your objective is to kill, assaults are meant to excel at that better than any other role (no tanks are meant to support your team, they are just good at killing as well)
Lorhak Gannarsein 1141	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:41:00 - [94] - Quote Specced into GalLogi when it was sh*t, it's getting nerfed. Specced into Amarr Assault because I expected a GalLogi nerf and I liked ScR. Losing my ScR bonus. What is the point of a repair bonus for an assault suit with three lows? Hoping to god that there's either a slot reshuffle to go with the skill changes, or a respec. PRO tanker and proud. Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2804	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:50:00 - [95] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: wrote: Skill at operating Amarr Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Amarr Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Amarr Assault Bonus: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level. Skill at operating Caldari Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Caldari Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Caldari Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level. Skill at operating Gallente Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Gallente Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Gallente Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level. Skill at operating Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Minmatar Assault Bonus: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level. Thanks to The Robot Devil for the information. Looks like Amarr Assaults will be useless, and Minmatar Assault will be the new FOTM. On the bright side, guess who's going Caldari Assault!! Original post- https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134232&find=unread Great, I got my Amarr Assault because I wanted the best laser. Then the laser got fcked so I got a Scrambler Rifle to have something to use on the suit. Now I needn't have bothered with any of it. The only bonuses that needed changing were the shield recharge, the Caldari's UP shield extender, and the Gallente's useless PG reduction. We were happy with the rest. Every day that I consider how fcking moronic the devs making these decisions have to be, I always wonder if the real incentive is simply to keep us in a constant need of more SP. No.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 561	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:50:00 - [96] - Quote Any people from CCP listen to me. DO NOT CHANGE THE AMARR assault suit bonus, keep it the way it is. Everything else I'm for. I love kittens with mittens
LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI 22	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:51:00 - [97] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Patrick57 wrote: wrote: Skill at operating Amarr Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Amarr Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Amarr Assault Bonus: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level. Skill at operating Caldari Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Caldari Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Caldari Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level. Skill at operating Gallente Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Gallente Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Gallente Assault Bonus: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level. Skill at operating Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Unlocks access to Minmatar Assault dropsuits. Standard at lvl.1; advanced at lvl.3; prototype at lvl.5. Assault Suit Bonus: +2% to light weapon RoF per level. Minmatar Assault Bonus: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level. Thanks to The Robot Devil for the information. Looks like Amarr Assaults will be useless, and Minmatar Assault will be the new FOTM. On the bright side, guess who's going Caldari Assault!! Original post- https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134232&find=unread Great, I got my Amarr Assault because I wanted the best laser. Then the laser got fcked so I got a Scrambler Rifle to have something to use on the suit. Now I needn't have bothered with any of it. The only bonuses that needed changing were the shield recharge, the Caldari's UP shield extender, and the Gallente's useless PG reduction. We were happy with the rest. Every day that I consider how fcking moronic the devs making these decisions have to be, I always wonder if the real incentive is simply to keep us in a constant need of more SP. Perhaps that's their pathetic idea of attempting to extend this already majority failure of a FPS. They think if they keep restructuring SP requirements that people will stay around longer and stop the hemorrhaging of people leaving. If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 620	Posted - 2014.01.08 04:59:00 - [98] - Quote Calling it now, minmatar assault suit damage mods and cobat rifle next fotm
Emo Ghost 40	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:46:00 - [99] - Quote Never going Amarr assault then..... -ê(n+ÇGêç´)-ê
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 976	Posted - 2014.01.08 06:55:00 - [100] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: These are major nerfs to the Amarr Assault suit...I'm beyond livid right now. I sense a full respec coming from these changes. My Crystal Ball says; Nope.

McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 420	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:09:00 - [101] - Quote It's about dam time assaults got some dev attention. I'm tired of logi's taking over the killer role when they're supposed to be doing logi stuff. Glad I stuck with Gallente and Minmatar as well. Especially Minmatar. This might make me start playing again. Need to start earning FW loyalty points. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1363	Posted - 2014.01.08 07:38:00 - [102] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: These are major nerfs to the Amarr Assault suit...I'm beyond livid right now. Yepz, All the other suits get bonusses that are usefull "During" combat, extra shields, extra armor and extra damage but the Amarr suit gets a bonus thats only good for After the Fight (Assuming you can get through those 25% extra EHP) and those 25% on 7 armor reps is bringing it to a whopping 8.75 and it makes using reactive plates impposible because then your not using the bonus at all. Minmatar however also draws a short straw, because they will "need" to equip damage mods now or be totally useless, same as Amarr needing to fit a repper, where with the other 2 suits, everyone on those has Shields are Armor plates anyhow. Best Assault suit will now be the Gallente with its extra 25% Armor, so you can fit something else and be faster then everyone else while having more armor. Guess its time to say bye bye to the Amarr Assault. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Lorhak Gannarsein 1145	Posted - 2014.01.08 12:09:00 - [103] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: These are major nerfs to the Amarr Assault suit...I'm beyond livid right now. Yepz, All the other suits get bonusses that are usefull "During" combat, extra shields, extra armor and extra damage but the Amarr suit gets a bonus thats only good for After the Fight (Assuming you can get through those 25% extra EHP) and those 25% on 7 armor reps is bringing it to a whopping 8.75 and it makes using reactive plates impposible because then your not using the bonus at all. Minmatar however also draws a short straw, because they will "need" to equip damage mods now or be totally useless, same as Amarr needing to fit a repper, where with the other 2 suits, everyone on those has Shields are Armor plates anyhow. Best Assault suit will now be the Gallente with its extra 25% Armor, so you can fit something else and be faster then everyone else while having more armor. Guess its time to say bye bye to the Amarr Assault. Not like it was a good suit anyway, aside from the bonus. PRO tanker and proud. Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1477	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:10:00 - [104] - Quote FOTY? Being a slayer has always been the FOTM, but now it has changed from being a logi suit to an assault suit. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
m621 zma OMFGZOMBIESRUN 94	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:43:00 - [105] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Looks like Amarr Assaults will be useless, and Minmatar Assault will be the new FOTM. Mini assault new FOTM? ha ha ha ha... NO.. it won't - that suit is fundamentally crippled.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 820	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:28:00 - [106] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: These are major nerfs to the Amarr Assault suit...I'm beyond livid right now. Yepz, All the other suits get bonusses that are usefull "During" combat, extra shields, extra armor and extra damage but the Amarr suit gets a bonus thats only good for After the Fight (Assuming you can get through those 25% extra EHP) and those 25% on 7 armor reps is bringing it to a whopping 8.75 and it makes using reactive plates impposible because then your not using the bonus at all. Minmatar however also draws a short straw, because they will "need" to equip damage mods now or be totally useless, same as Amarr needing to fit a repper, where with the other 2 suits, everyone on those has Shields are Armor plates anyhow. Best Assault suit will now be the Gallente with its extra 25% Armor, so you can fit something else and be faster then everyone else while having more armor. Guess its time to say bye bye to the Amarr Assault. I beg to argue, as a Armor Rep user. Armor Reps are NEVER for after the battle. They're active reps. You know what that means? Even while in battle they rep you. Shields repair is for after the battle or during cover. Without a bonus to Armor Rep per level, I can stack two Complex Armor Repairs and get 12.50 Armor Per Second. The Amarr should be able to go beyond that and then some. 12.50 Armor Per second is already top-tier in usefulness but now you guys can go higher. tl;dr: Don't underestimate Armor Reps "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus


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