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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:05:00 -
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They KO'd the heat bonus on the Amarr assault?
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Aero Yassavi
Yassavi House
4350
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:07:00 -
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I'm trying to think of how we're supposed to use Amarr Assaults now. I sort of guess you'll have to stack armor repair modules, but since Amarr suits have less modules that'll leave no room for armor plates so you'll have to shield tank. So a shield tanking outer layer with a quickly regenerating by soft armor inner layer.
Yeah, that sounds Amarrian to me.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
3709
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:07:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:They KO'd the heat bonus on the Amarr assault? Apparently.
I must tell CatDog so I can watch him rage in chat!!
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
237
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:08:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Minmatar Glass cannons, kills anything it gazes upon but breaks when breathed on. Fixed
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
3709
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:08:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I'm trying to think of how we're supposed to use Amarr Assaults now. I sort of guess you'll have to stack armor repair modules, but since Amarr suits have less modules that'll leave no room for armor plates so you'll have to shield tank. So a shield tanking outer layer with a quickly regenerating by soft armor inner layer.
Yeah, that sounds Amarrian to me. At least you Assaults can get 400+ Shields :P The max I can get on my Logi is 368 Shields :( Works for dual tanking, but that's about it.
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
2490
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:10:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Dat mini bonus is crazy, no way it will make it into real build.
It's a shield suit. You have two low slots. This is to give it some punch while still being a paper tiger.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
530
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:16:00 -
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If these along with the sniffed out commando bonuses go live as Dust is...well then so much for increasing TTK |
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1488
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:24:00 -
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Damage Modifiers on a Minne? Really?
Please CCP tell me you are gonna tone down the damage on rifles now? Please?
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5428
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:31:00 -
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Aww they took out the one most characteristic feature of the Amarr assault and replaced it with poorly thought out, and generally not in keeping with EVE side lore, bonuses which really suck.
Every Amarr assault liked their heat bonus, it wasn't the best but it was ours.....
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3744
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:32:00 -
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For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
3714
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:34:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot. Then the Caldari Logi would literally be unstoppable, as they're removing the Scrambler Rifle overheat bonus for the Amarr Assault ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png)
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
223
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:35:00 -
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lol al will run mini with CR and stacked d mods.
But hey I am not surprised that CCP again f somthing upp
War never changes
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Aero Yassavi
Yassavi House
4355
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aww they took out the one most characteristic feature of the Amarr assault and replaced it with poorly thought out, and generally not in keeping with EVE side lore, bonuses which really suck.
Every Amarr assault liked their heat bonus, it wasn't the best but it was ours..... If anything, the removal of the Amarr Assault heat bonus will only motivate me more to get out of assaults with the inevitable respec and go full on Amarr Scout.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5428
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:36:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot.
Thats would break armour tankers.....
Remove the Damage mod and potentially start fixing infantry combat
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3149
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot. Thats would break armour tankers..... Remove the Damage mod and potentially start fixing infantry combat That would effectively kill pretty much every niche weapon in existence, and guarantee that everyone will stop using AV weaponry for good.
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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Sick Metagamer
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:40:00 -
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CCP stoles my commando and assault suit idea... GOOD! |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3744
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:For the love of Matari tell me they're sending DMs to the lowslot. Thats would break armour tankers..... Remove the Damage mod and potentially start fixing infantry combat You and I both know that ain't happening
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
143
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:46:00 -
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I knew Minmatar Assaults would get fixed some day. A +5% bonus to side-arm weapon clip was damn awful.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2075
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:48:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:So the assaults are now going to be assaulting?
I see no problems here. Neither do I. Except the Amarr Assault will be USELESS.... Two Complex Armor Repair will rep for close to 15 health per second. It is not enough to keep you up when you are under fire, but it will get you back in the game fairly fast.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5390
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:49:00 -
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Heavies get natural resist to match, so they won't have problems with that.
Assaults are now ASSAULTING, no more logi gods.
Scouts, I feel sorry for them.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:51:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Two Complex Armor Repair will rep for close to 15 health per second. It is not enough to keep you up when you are under fire, but it will get you back in the game fairly fast. Currently with my Amarr Logi I can get 20 armor reps per second with the same bonus, but that wasn't my point. My point was that without the heat buildup bonus, the Amarr Assault will only be even close to viable because it has the highest base HP.
Besides, with 2 Complex Armor Repairers that leaves ONE Low slot for an Armor Plate, or anything else.
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5390
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:53:00 -
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Just FYI: CCP Wolfman runs the Amarr Assault, so you guys have favoritism.
Don't worry, for you, everything will be fine :D
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
231
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:01:00 -
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Where's the scouts?! I want to see my new suit!
Please fix the mic bubble bug...
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
3720
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:03:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Where's the scouts?! I want to see my new suit! Scouts still get no love =[
If Shotty GoBang was running for CPM I'd gladly vote for him, he could bring all the major scout issues to CCP's attention.
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
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Avallo Kantor
Scions of Athra
298
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:10:00 -
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Assuming every assault is using their racial assault weapon, this RoF buff is going to be most disadvantageous to the Scrambler Rifle, as you are trying to control your shots, not spam them. Furthermore the max possible ROF is still limited by how fast one can press the trigger, so for most people the maximum possible ROF of the SR doesn't matter.
The removal of heat bonus to Amarr, coupled with the ROF bonus to all assault suits will mean that the SR no longer has any advantages on being put on an Amarr Assault vs any other type of gun. While I don't mind the idea of having any assault being able to fit any guy, I feel that the racial bonuses of each suit should prove to be most advantageous to their own gun. (Such as the heat build up for Amarr) this bonus would not be so much that other racial suits couldn't run the weapon, nor so much that the suit feels gimped by wielding another racial weapon.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5392
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aww they took out the one most characteristic feature of the Amarr assault and replaced it with poorly thought out, and generally not in keeping with EVE side lore, bonuses which really suck.
Every Amarr assault liked their heat bonus, it wasn't the best but it was ours..... Uhh... No, it WAS the best. It made the SCR god mode.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Aero Yassavi
Yassavi House
4364
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Just FYI: CCP Wolfman runs the Amarr Assault, so you guys have favoritism.
Don't worry, for you, everything will be fine :D Saint Wolfman, why have you forsaken me?
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
480
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:20:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Assault Bonus + Assault CR + Minmatar Bonus We will be OP. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
fixed it for yah
Dedicated Shotgun Scout
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2675
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:22:00 -
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The new amarr bonus is turd.....it should have stayed the way it was
Proud member of the Commando 6
<3 Commando AK.0
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1014
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:26:00 -
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Ehrmagerd!
Real assaulting bonuses for assault class.
Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP.
Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.
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