That looks like a good fit Trigger. I only have 2 or 3 matches in a Month where i would die enough to loose ISK with a suit like that. It looks like a money maker, and still quite effective if played well.

My new favorite fit:

Advanced Amarr Sentinel
2x Complex Armor Repair
Complex Plate
Complex Heavy Damage Modifier
GÇÿSteelmineGÇÖ Boundless HMG, SMG, Flux Grenade.


The fit I have mostly been running for the last two weeks:

Standard Sentinel (Dren BPO)
2x Militia Armor Repair
Militia Shield Extender
HMG, Militia SMG, Flux Grenade.

The second suit costs 3810 ISK (6810 ISK without the BPO). I managed to go 29/11 in the cheap suit last night in a Domination match. I have since switched the Militia Shield Extender out for a Militia Damage Modifier (Bumps the price up to 3930 ISK + 3000 ISK if you have to pay for the suit).

If you train in the cheap suit, you will absolutely wreck when you switch to the expensive version. Of course I did not start running the cheap suit for training. I started running it because I was broke.

These fits are what I refer to as Assault Sentinel fits. That is, they play like a Caldari Sentinel, having to take cover part way through the fight to regenerate health before reengaging.

Anyone up for squadding up sometime Saturday and just running amok in Dom?

I would, but I work Saturdays, unfortunately. Might have time Sunday, though. You can find me in chat 'Heavy/Logi Funzone', hit me up sometime.

I'm playing Advanced Cal these days, mostly:

-- Enhanced repper
-- Enhanced energizer
-- 2 Enhanced Extenders
-- MH-82, M209, and fluxes

So by now we've seen the proposed balances to the Sentinels and the HMG. What's everyone's thoughts?

As a HMG specialist (Read my Guide) I support these changes overall.

Heat Buildup:
I am an experienced HMG user and I donGÇÖt like wasting bullets. Therefor I normally shoot in bursts, and only when I am on target. So I donGÇÖt think I will be effected a great deal from these changes. However, the spray and prey crowd who are always calling for a Nano Hive because they have burned through 1000 rounds, will probably have more trouble with the heat build up. It will make the HMG require more skill to use effectively, which will reduce the number of people using it as easy mode. That is a good thing.

Currently I only overheat my Standard HMG when trying to kill a LAV (can we get the +25% damage to vehicles to balance this heat buildup nerf?) and when firing into a crowd of 4 or 5 people huddled together (fish in a barrel) where I can change targets while continuing to fire every time I get a kill without wasting bullets. With the increased heat buildup those overheat situations will happen more often, but they can be managed.

Normalizing ranges across all tiers:
I am all for this. Sometimes I use Standard HMG and sometimes I use Proto HMG. It will be a lot easier if their range profile is consistent. I wonGÇÖt have muscle memory working against me.

Burst HMG changes:
These sound interesting. However too many variables are changing for me to comment before testing. Rate of fire, damage per round, and burst delay are all changing, which will all effect how fast heat builds up while trying to kill someone. This could make it OP or UP, so I suggest you test it carefully.

I like the reduction in the burst delay. I like to fire in short bursts with the Standard HMG, but with the Burst HMG I would fire a burst and then when I would pull the trigger for the next burst the delay would not be over yet and nothing would happen for a moment. Since I have the slowest trigger speed of anyone I know, this does lead me to believe that the bust delay was too long.

I am thinking that the Burst HMG with the new changes might go very well with the Minmitar Sentinel suit play style.

I've never actually used the Burst HMG, so I'll have to test it out. I stick to the standard HMG, I wasn't particularly fond of the Assault since my play style is more up-close and personal than the Assault was designed for.

The Assault HMG works very well on some maps such as Ashland and Line Harvest, but I have just been using the Standard HMG in these maps recently. They have a combination of open areas, with a bit of cover, so either HMG will work. The Assault works really well from the Table Top, or from the top of pipes though.

I have Engineering and Electronics at 5 on both of my Sentinels, and they are both 3 or 4 levels into the HMG Optimization. But I was fitting proto mods to Standard suits. Fittings are a lot tighter now, they donGÇÖt seem unreasonable. I definitely have had to downgrade some stuff, but I have still been able to make effective fits.

The exception being the Standard Caldari Sentinel, which I do not believe can be made effective, unless you are running with a Caldari Logi with Rep Hives.

I gave the Burst a try and found it not to my style. I might give the Proto a shot at a later date and stick with it a little longer, see how it plays out.

I've actually come to like the slot swap on the Gallente Proto. Two high slots lets me run a decent AV with good eHP.

It does require a different playstyle, to be sure, but it is extremely fun, and proto is not even necessary, honestly. Here's the fit I'm running for about 30K on protofits.com:

http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1248/7019

Well worth learning to use, it's great fun!