The only way they should remain is with an expanded map and fortified turret installations.

I would certainly support a infantry only gamemode. Give people the options. How can it hurt? Don't take anything away, just add an infantry only ambush mode or something like that.

I agree with this. Removing them completely would be silly. Six tanks per team when there's only 16 mercs per side is a bit extreme. Especially in a game made based solely on killing.

I know. And I've been dedicated tanker/AV since the early bit of the second round of closed beta. The point still stands though - rather than removing tanks because they kill Infantry too easily, thereby ruining the game, they need to change the system and create a viable reason for tanks to exist other than...well, just wiping the floor with absolutely everything with a single large turret and a hardener or two. It's broken. Especially in ambush where the likelihood of good cooperative AV approaches 0%. And it might actually be less than that in pubs.

Remove dropships from Ambush and you'll give us pilots no where to go to get away from redline railgun campers, that's why dropship squads like ones i roll with go into Ambush, because only in there is it fair for tanks vs dropships (or any other vehicle) because they have no redline to hide behind.

And it's harder to take down dropships? I call complete bull **** on that one counting that we've lost 1 high and 1 low module now making our shield or armor even lower than it used to be. It doesn't take 3-4 shots from a railgun to take us out, it takes 1-2, believe me, I know this. Dropships help immensely if their on your own team in ambush as well, and forge guns are perfectly strong enough to cause us to flee from the situation, preventing our ability to stomp players.

Ambush should be infantry only.

Ambush should also have a spawn system that isn't entirely ridiculous.

Neither of these things are very likely to happen.

Because CCP.

I see ambush basically as TDM.

Vehicles have no place in TDM.

I thought this was obvious.

Remove dropships from Ambush and you'll give us pilots no where to go to get away from the broken mechanic of redline railgun campers, that's why dropship squads like ones i roll with go into Ambush, because only in there is it fair for tanks vs dropships (or any other vehicle) because they have no redline to hide behind.

And it's harder to take down dropships? I call complete bull **** on that one counting that we've lost 1 high and 1 low module now making our shield or armor even lower than it used to be. It doesn't take 3-4 shots from a railgun to take us out, it takes 1-2, believe me, I know this. Dropships help immensely if their on your own team in ambush as well, and forge guns are perfectly strong enough to cause us to flee from the situation, preventing our ability to stomp players.

Uber long OP

Make a separate game mode for vehicles only.
1 tank 1 try. If you die, that's if for the match.

Ambush without tanks would be sort of fun when not getting proto stomped.

For this im going to refer to what I said in the original post.

"90% of the time if a DS dies its because the pilot was either A.) incompetent in either skill or skill points, OR B.) because they got unlucky when I pegged them and clipped a wall."

You don't have tank? Are you mad? Your tank is in the sheer mobility of the vehicle coupled with the sheer inadequacy of anti-air weaponry right now. Do you want the damn thing to be invulnerable? When ive got 5 guys with the sole purpose of taking down one DS, three with swarms with 5 damage mods, and two with proto forge guns. And were unable to take down ONE ADS theres something wrong.

Past 100 M its really hard to hit DS with Forge guns, and if they get hit by swarms they need only fly out of range which takes all of three seconds if you consider how bad the SL range is now.

You don't want to get shot down by rail guns? Those are literally the only weapons in the game that can reliably kill DSs right now. Im sorry, but nobody likes to die regardless of what it is. Unfortunately you cant have god mode forever. You want a safe haven from them? Well I want a safe haven from them AND DS pilots like you.

Hold up, after further inspection of your post. Your upset because you cant camp the redline? How terrible of CCP to stop you from stomping a team further into the ground after they're clearly beat anyway. If you getting pegged by rail gun at distance 200M + then your doing something wrong.

Tanks make this game not any fun to play anymore. Ambush mode yesterday, first time I've played in a couple weeks and I saw 4 tanks on the enemy side and 3 tanks on our side.

Guess which side won? That's right...the side with 4 tanks. I got to blow one of those piece of sh!t SICA tanks up...but in doing so, I was killed 14 times. Nearly almost as I spawned.

Oh yeah and Assault Dropships....they basically just sit and camp CRU's and missle you to death when you spawn. You spawn with a swarm launcher and break away from the pack before they kill you?

HERE COMES THE TANK. So basically you either spawn, waste all your fittings or just spawn MCC and sit there.

You could try to drop out and carve a path around except OH WAIT...THERE ARE 3 MORE GODDAMN TANKS POLICING THE AREAS AROUND THE MCC SO YOU'RE F!CKING DEAD AS SOON AS YOU SHOW YOUR FACE.

Ambush could be cured by limiting HAVs to 1-2 per side.

That's not even what I was saying.... dear god. I was asserting that it's only fair in Ambush because WE BOTH don't have redlines to hide behind. And you think getting hit by a railgun from over 200M is uncommon? You really have no idea what the relationship between tanks and dropships is then, because dropships are hit from over 500M all of the time from redline camping tanks that are able to 1-2 shot them. People like you who are pure infantry shouldn't try to make false assumptions about vehicles, when they clearly know nothing about how they work on the field.

Tl;dr "lets deny a whole gamemode to a specific subset of people because I'm too much of a baby to actually skill into av".

Tanks & dropships aren't much if a problem - the mlt 80k tourist tanks are. Assault & breach forge guns still do awful things to vehicles.

no supply depots in tactical positions need to be added. maybe make them indestructable. maybe.

Here's the problem I have with this opinion, you say how tanks are spamming so bad, and yet also complain about dropships, when they could be the exact answer to those tanks giving your team grief. When i go into ambush with a squad of DS pilots, tanks no longer rule the field and we end up saving our entire team from being gang-banged by tanks, thanks to assault dropships.

STB suggesting that (gasp) tanks should not be in ambush?
good golly gosh what an upset