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KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1500	Posted - 2013.12.30 11:49:00 - [1] - Quote 1. Join Our "Rainbow Office" chat channel. 2. Contact me and we'll Group up. 3. We'll play some EU ambush until we come up against a decent set of tank spammers. 4. Do Your "Easy AV" play you claim you can do. 5. I'll record it all and we'll deflate this myth that the only true effective Counter to tanks is more tanks. Talk is cheap guys.... http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 1830	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:09:00 - [2] - Quote No kidding. I've won the past 15 Ambushes that I've had tank superiority in. Yet, infantry AV is fine and everyone needs to HTFU when I go 25/0 in a 50 clone Ambush several matches in a row. It's completely OK, really! All they need is their whole team to fire one collective Breach Forge Gun blast at once! You need to pop a tank, you bring out a tank. I have not met a single AV'er that matches the threat level of even a Sica. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 180	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:19:00 - [3] - Quote lol Safe bet this one it won't happen Love the post Babar brilliant to be honest Regards War never changes
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1388	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:20:00 - [4] - Quote KingBabar wrote: 1. Join Our "Rainbow Office" chat channel. 2. Contact me and we'll Group up. 3. We'll play some EU ambush until we come up against a decent set of tank spammers. 4. Do Your "Easy AV" play you claim you can do. 5. I'll record it all and we'll deflate this myth that the only true effective Counter to tanks is more tanks. Talk is cheap guys.... Edit: Its posts like this from experienced tankers like Jason Pearson and EnglishSnake AKA Takashiro something from Red Star that really shows some of these guys' true colours. They talk the talk but will they walk the walk? I doubt it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=132574 Tsk, they know they won't even move. You'll probably have no answer Tank 514.
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 180	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:25:00 - [5] - Quote Fu+ºk it lets just set up a PC where they can prove the point. I pay for the dam clonepack my self So 6-7 tankers and support infantry vs the kick as AV squad with infantry Babar you guys are the tankers on one of your districts if its okey with you. War never changes
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1504	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:32:00 - [6] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Fu+ºk it lets just set up a PC where they can prove the point. I pay for the dam clonepack my self So 6-7 tankers and support infantry vs the kick as AV squad with infantry Babar you guys are the tankers on one of your districts if its okey with you. My bet is on the tankers It would be if we had any Districts left.... (With less than 20 active players and no corp wallet to speak of we sold out not bothering to fight a war vs Laggy Spam after they declared to me that they wanted to remove us from PC. We don't have the manpower, the isk or not least the will to fight a losing war vs the laggiest, richest and most exploit using corp in Dust. It would drain us for isk and probably the will to even play Dust.) http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1388	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:38:00 - [7] - Quote KingBabar wrote: With less than 20 active players and no corp wallet to speak of we sold out not bothering to fight a war vs Laggy Spam after they declared to me that they wanted to remove us from PC. We don't have the manpower, the isk or not least the will to fight a losing war vs the laggiest, richest and most exploit using corp in Dust. It would drain us for isk and probably the will to even play Dust. OT We both know someone that would strongly disagree with you if he was still playing - Tank 514.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1504	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:40:00 - [8] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: KingBabar wrote: With less than 20 active players and no corp wallet to speak of we sold out not bothering to fight a war vs Laggy Spam after they declared to me that they wanted to remove us from PC. We don't have the manpower, the isk or not least the will to fight a losing war vs the laggiest, richest and most exploit using corp in Dust. It would drain us for isk and probably the will to even play Dust. OT We both know someone that would strongly disagree with you if he was still playing - Who? I'm at a loss. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 181	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:41:00 - [9] - Quote I am looking 4 a home let me know if you are intressted War never changes
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1388	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:42:00 - [10] - Quote KingBabar wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: KingBabar wrote: With less than 20 active players and no corp wallet to speak of we sold out not bothering to fight a war vs Laggy Spam after they declared to me that they wanted to remove us from PC. We don't have the manpower, the isk or not least the will to fight a losing war vs the laggiest, richest and most exploit using corp in Dust. It would drain us for isk and probably the will to even play Dust. OT We both know someone that would strongly disagree with you if he was still playing - Who? I'm at a loss. Your former CEO- anyway it would deserve another topic. edit: sorry, one of your former CEOs Tank 514.

KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1504	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:45:00 - [11] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: I am looking 4 a home let me know if you are intressted You need to have a min 3.5 KDR, 20 M + SP, a dedicated role and be at least slightly gay! If you meet those criteria contact me or Tosh ingame and we'll do some matches. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 181	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:48:00 - [12] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: I am looking 4 a home let me know if you are intressted You need to have a min 3.5 KDR, 20 M + SP, a dedicated role and be at least slightly gay! If you meet those criteria contact me or Tosh ingame and we'll do some matches. Fu+ºk KDR I am a logi/scout I die a lot LOL But I am slightly gay Edit I kind of loved that your smal corp was kicking big butt in PC War never changes
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1365	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:57:00 - [13] - Quote so you want a tank driver to show you how easy it is to do the role of AV. can't AV just learn to get better? i really don't understand. Main - BobThe843CakeMan Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details. Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1709	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:59:00 - [14] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: so you want a tank driver to show you how easy it is to do the role of AV. can't AV just learn to get better? i really don't understand. Hahaha. That's extremely close to what infantry was saying during 1.6. (Not that I really care for both AV and vehicles, to be honest.) "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
Wallaby1 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 69	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:00:00 - [15] - Quote just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so OP that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1506	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:05:00 - [16] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: so you want a tank driver to show you how easy it is to do the role of AV. can't AV just learn to get better? i really don't understand. Well yes to the first, but only because they come here and claim it is so easy to kill tanks, its no problem for them doing it in basic gear with little to no infantry skills. Did you read the thread I linked? Claims like these pisses me off cause they're lying, and if they're not lying and everybody else simply suck, what would be better than to get "vid proof" posted by a non tanker on these forums? I will confirm their BS claim is true. And in the right sort of way, I can record a string of games getting the full picture of it, not some edited BS from someone having the occational tank kill..... And please elaborate, how can AV-ers learn to get better? http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1506	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:08:00 - [17] - Quote Wallaby1 wrote: just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so OP that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle Yes, thats what happens every game, its mostly the tankers getting trashed by AV in no time. Perhaps give tanks some more HP or better hardeners then? http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Wallaby1 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 69	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:13:00 - [18] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Wallaby1 wrote: just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so OP that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle Yes, thats what happens every game, its mostly the tankers getting trashed by AV in no time. Perhaps give tanks some more HP or better hardeners then? perhaps stop complaining so mutch!? hearing people crying on the mic is OP to my ears!!
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1365	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:15:00 - [19] - Quote KingBabar wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: so you want a tank driver to show you how easy it is to do the role of AV. can't AV just learn to get better? i really don't understand. Well yes to the first, but only because they come here and claim it is so easy to kill tanks, its no problem for them doing it in basic gear with little to no infantry skills. Did you read the thread I linked? Claims like these pisses me off cause they're lying, and if they're not lying and everybody else simply suck, what would be better than to get "vid proof" posted by a non tanker on these forums? I will confirm their BS claim is true. And in the right sort of way, I can record a string of games getting the full picture of it, not some edited BS from someone having the occational tank kill..... And please elaborate, how can AV-ers learn to get better? really i kill tanks all the time and you want to know how. i speced into it. (AV) along with tanks. and yes i read it. REs and porxies work. Forge gun work and ambushes with multiple light AV work. Now tanks with constant hardeners require porcy traps with forges to hit after words or other light AV. Forge guns kill tanks in 3-4 shots no hards on which most do not have on all the time. Other light AV it is almost required to have more than one or else it doesn't do enough damage. IMO swarms do need a slight buff. along with the plasma cannon, but not so much as to make the forge seem pointless. as it is supposed to be heavy AV. AKA the strongest AV. but this game has still yet to add any webifiers or other equipment to **** off tankers yet. Main - BobThe843CakeMan Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details. Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 515	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:20:00 - [20] - Quote Man I was on an ALT before downtime and I felt a bit bad smashing red dot tanks in an ambush before they could even get in them. I would drive up and smash the poor guys before there vehicles could even fully deploy. I propose vehicles drop in fast just like turrets and supply depots do in OMS you know that woooshhhh booom sound that comes from the sky as the installations drop in from space. Vehicles should do that too. Its not very fair that I can roll up and smash them before they can even use them, still I couldn't help but laugh maniacally! MUHAHA Btw as it stands swarms are pretty UP, when I'm in a tank on my alt 90% of swarms are just a way to give away a position. I propose swarms get a small increase to damage and a little more range too. Not the same range they had before, but a bit further than their max range is now. P.S Have all of you rainbow guys been playing for a long time? I always see people like Taz666 in those ambushes and I remember him from closed beta I think. He always seems to be in ambushes lol

KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1507	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:20:00 - [21] - Quote Wallaby1 wrote: KingBabar wrote: Wallaby1 wrote: just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so OP that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle Yes, thats what happens every game, its mostly the tankers getting trashed by AV in no time. Perhaps give tanks some more HP or better hardeners then? perhaps stop complaining so mutch!? hearing people crying on the mic is OP to my ears!! First off, I don't complain much at all. (And what is "OP to my ears"?) I've not even commented upon the AV-Tank Balance other than in too many cases another tank is the only viable AV option, definately the best one. The tankers claim its easy to do AV, even for them, I wan't them to show me cause I don't believe them for a second. Its quite simple really. (And please link my posts where I actually come on to these forums and complain. (Well With exception of my previous "nades should be nerfed" threads.)) http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1507	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:25:00 - [22] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: KingBabar wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: so you want a tank driver to show you how easy it is to do the role of AV. can't AV just learn to get better? i really don't understand. Well yes to the first, but only because they come here and claim it is so easy to kill tanks, its no problem for them doing it in basic gear with little to no infantry skills. Did you read the thread I linked? Claims like these pisses me off cause they're lying, and if they're not lying and everybody else simply suck, what would be better than to get "vid proof" posted by a non tanker on these forums? I will confirm their BS claim is true. And in the right sort of way, I can record a string of games getting the full picture of it, not some edited BS from someone having the occational tank kill..... And please elaborate, how can AV-ers learn to get better? really i kill tanks all the time and you want to know how. i speced into it. (AV) along with tanks. and yes i read it. REs and porxies work. Forge gun work and ambushes with multiple light AV work. Now tanks with constant hardeners require porcy traps with forges to hit after words or other light AV. Forge guns kill tanks in 3-4 shots no hards on which most do not have on all the time. Other light AV it is almost required to have more than one or else it doesn't do enough damage. IMO swarms do need a slight buff. along with the plasma cannon, but not so much as to make the forge seem pointless. as it is supposed to be heavy AV. AKA the strongest AV. but this game has still yet to add any webifiers or other equipment to **** off tankers yet. So we have a winner, I take it you Accept my challange? I'll be on probably in about 2 hours and the following 5-6 hours or even more. I'd really like to se you perform your magic With anything but a camping fatsuit, perhaps I'll learn a thing or two.... http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Wallaby1 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 72	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:30:00 - [23] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Wallaby1 wrote: KingBabar wrote: Wallaby1 wrote: just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so OP that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle Yes, thats what happens every game, its mostly the tankers getting trashed by AV in no time. Perhaps give tanks some more HP or better hardeners then? perhaps stop complaining so mutch!? hearing people crying on the mic is OP to my ears!! First off, I don't complain much at all. (And what is "OP to my ears"?) I've not even commented upon the AV-Tank Balance other than in too many cases another tank is the only viable AV option, definately the best one. The tankers claim its easy to do AV, even for them, I wan't them to show me cause I don't believe them for a second. Its quite simple really. (And please link my posts where I actually come on to these forums and complain. (Well With exception of my previous "nades should be nerfed" threads.)) OP (over powering) to my ears!! - there is way to mutch complaining in the forums im not referring to you personally . -i dont understand why people wont use a tank to combat enemy tank spam? mlt tanks are so cheap SO USE THEM TO KICK SOME ASS instead of complaning about how hard it is to fight tankers.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1507	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:36:00 - [24] - Quote Wallaby1 wrote: KingBabar wrote: Wallaby1 wrote: KingBabar wrote: Wallaby1 wrote: just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so OP that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle Yes, thats what happens every game, its mostly the tankers getting trashed by AV in no time. Perhaps give tanks some more HP or better hardeners then? perhaps stop complaining so mutch!? hearing people crying on the mic is OP to my ears!! First off, I don't complain much at all. (And what is "OP to my ears"?) I've not even commented upon the AV-Tank Balance other than in too many cases another tank is the only viable AV option, definately the best one. The tankers claim its easy to do AV, even for them, I wan't them to show me cause I don't believe them for a second. Its quite simple really. (And please link my posts where I actually come on to these forums and complain. (Well With exception of my previous "nades should be nerfed" threads.)) OP (over powering) to my ears!! - there is way to mutch complaining in the forums im not referring to you personally . -i dont understand why people wont use a tank to combat enemy tank spam? mlt tanks are so cheap SO USE THEM TO KICK SOME ASS instead of complaning about how hard it is to fight tankers. Right, then we are on the same page though with different opinions. We both mean that the only proper counter to tanks is calling in your own tank. You seem to think thats fine, I however do not. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2092	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:38:00 - [25] - Quote lolambush Sorry i only play real modes Intelligence is OP
Wallaby1 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 72	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:40:00 - [26] - Quote Right, then we are on the same page though with different opinions. We both mean that the only proper counter to tanks is calling in your own tank. You seem to think thats fine, I however do not. [/quote] Fair enough i agree av weapons need some reworking as the game has changed but i like the tanks.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1510	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:41:00 - [27] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolambush Sorry i only play real modes Ok, lets do it in whatever game mode you like best. Are you free tonight? And LOL at "real modes", a bunch of morons running around in circles hacking and moving on is not any sort of proper game mode IMO. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Wallaby1 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 72	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:41:00 - [28] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolambush Sorry i only play real modes lol true that !!
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1510	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:47:00 - [29] - Quote Wallaby1 wrote: Right, then we are on the same page though with different opinions. We both mean that the only proper counter to tanks is calling in your own tank. You seem to think thats fine, I however do not. Fair enough i agree av weapons need some reworking as the game has changed but i like the tanks.[/quote] I too like the general workings of tanks now, the game is much faster paced and fun now, yes I honestly mean that. The only real good ide I've heard is to remove large blasters, they're the reason its so hard to be infantry chasing Down a tank. With removal of large blasters the tanks would be dependant on their smaller blasters and another dude(s) for being a mighty big hitter and have Close range anti personell capabilities at the same time. This just off the top of my head... http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2092	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:50:00 - [30] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolambush Sorry i only play real modes Ok, lets do it in whatever game mode you like best. Are you free tonight? And LOL at "real modes", a bunch of morons running around in circles hacking and moving on is not any sort of proper game mode IMO. What where as whoever using FOTM fit with a modded controller in ambush is the real mans game right? lolno How would we do this? am i soloing these tanks or doing it in a group? are you even helping or just watching? Whats the plan? Intelligence is OP

DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3979	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:55:00 - [31] - Quote Real modes are rush and capture the flag. Tdm and Dom are **. However Tdm is more of a solo mode. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3** \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 668	Posted - 2013.12.30 13:57:00 - [32] - Quote KingBabar wrote: 1. Join Our "Rainbow Office" chat channel. 2. Contact me and we'll Group up. 3. We'll play some EU ambush until we come up against a decent set of tank spammers. 4. Do Your "Easy AV" play you claim you can do. 5. I'll record it all and we'll deflate this myth that the only true effective Counter to tanks is more tanks. Talk is cheap guys.... Edit: Its posts like this from experienced tankers like Jason Pearson and EnglishSnake AKA Takashiro something from Red Star that really shows some of these guys' true colours. They talk the talk but will they walk the walk? I doubt it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=132574 Well said...
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven 2386	Posted - 2013.12.30 14:29:00 - [33] - Quote KingBabar wrote: You need to have a min 3.5 KDR, 20 M + SP, a dedicated role and be at least slightly gay! No wonder you have less than 20 active players if you are so elitist! 20 M? Seriously? You're giving up a lot of fresh talents. PC active top corporations have people with much less than 20 M or so said good KDR. I'm absolutely shocked at those requirements. The only understandable one is to be a bit gay. 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1513	Posted - 2013.12.30 14:31:00 - [34] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KingBabar wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolambush Sorry i only play real modes Ok, lets do it in whatever game mode you like best. Are you free tonight? And LOL at "real modes", a bunch of morons running around in circles hacking and moving on is not any sort of proper game mode IMO. What where as whoever using FOTM fit with a modded controller in ambush is the real mans game right? lolno How would we do this? am i soloing these tanks or doing it in a group? are you even helping or just watching? Whats the plan? Well you said it was easy, I simply want you to show me, I must clearly be doing it wrong. The form of it is not that important IMO. - No forge roof camping. - I would prefer ambush cause there's where the truly tough games are, I mean, 6 enemy tanks and no place to hide very ofthen.We can do it in other modes too, not that important. - I will observe, you said it was easy so why do you need a group?Or my help? If you bring in 1 friend you can go 2 vs1 against the tanks, fair enough? And I really hope that FOTM fit and Modded controller comment was directed at someone else, That couldn't be me you're talking about unless you're seriously deluded. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2007	Posted - 2013.12.30 14:32:00 - [35] - Quote the team that gets their tanks into ambush first will win the match regardless whatever you do. Cause once one side has the map controll with 6 tanks you cant call in a vehicle simply due to the fact that at least 1 tank will see it and blow it up while its still hanging on the bolas. AV doesnt work cause shield tanks are indestructible while they have a shield hardener running. And when they got 3 hardeners its just pointless cause they can run a hardener the whole time non stop. In my opinion AV needs to be buffed back to its former state. This means more swarm launcher damage, more forgegun damage with less charge up time and higher AV grenade damage. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2092	Posted - 2013.12.30 14:42:00 - [36] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KingBabar wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolambush Sorry i only play real modes Ok, lets do it in whatever game mode you like best. Are you free tonight? And LOL at "real modes", a bunch of morons running around in circles hacking and moving on is not any sort of proper game mode IMO. What where as whoever using FOTM fit with a modded controller in ambush is the real mans game right? lolno How would we do this? am i soloing these tanks or doing it in a group? are you even helping or just watching? Whats the plan? Well you said it was easy, I simply want you to show me, I must clearly be doing it wrong. The form of it is not that important IMO. - No forge roof camping. - I would prefer ambush cause there's where the truly tough games are, I mean, 6 enemy tanks and no place to hide very ofthen.We can do it in other modes too, not that important. - I will observe, you said it was easy so why do you need a group?Or my help? If you bring in 1 friend you can go 2 vs1 against the tanks, fair enough? And I really hope that FOTM fit and Modded controller comment was directed at someone else, That couldn't be me you're talking about unless you're seriously deluded. No FG camping lol Ambush hard lol thats because an AR doesnt kill a tank amiright? but frankly no ambush is very meh and tanks are in all modes anyways Why do i need a group? let see because its always easier to take something down in a group, thats called teamwork, a rare concept to AV users and one concept i use weather im in a tank or not Intelligence is OP
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1513	Posted - 2013.12.30 14:43:00 - [37] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: KingBabar wrote: You need to have a min 3.5 KDR, 20 M + SP, a dedicated role and be at least slightly gay! No wonder you have less than 20 active players if you are so elitist! 20 M? Seriously? You're giving up a lot of fresh talents. PC active top corporations have people with much less than 20 M or so said good KDR. I'm absolutely shocked at those requirements. The only understandable one is to be a bit gay. If this corp was truly intended for owning districts in PC I would agree with you. This is however a merc corp. And with 2 exceptions (1 super logi and 1 AV specialist) we're all experienced players with good gear and good to great gungame. If people are to keep paying us 5 M per merc per battle +bonus I'd like to keep it so that our customers come again and again, filling the corp with "potentials" or "good enough" people, could lead to poor performance and us loosing business because of that. I also have to actually like and know the dudes in my corp, see what happened to SI who recruited way too fast. Dust is by far the easiest FPS game to do well in, by a mile. Even a semi blind scrub like me gets a moronic KDR.... A 2 KDR is a great score in any game, but not in Dust. Besides, if you're paying good isk for a squad to help you out, wouldn't you want some sort of set standard? I mean, we all have our bad games but its not like a player with said recuirements are bad in general... http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1513	Posted - 2013.12.30 14:49:00 - [38] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KingBabar wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KingBabar wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolambush Sorry i only play real modes Ok, lets do it in whatever game mode you like best. Are you free tonight? And LOL at "real modes", a bunch of morons running around in circles hacking and moving on is not any sort of proper game mode IMO. What where as whoever using FOTM fit with a modded controller in ambush is the real mans game right? lolno How would we do this? am i soloing these tanks or doing it in a group? are you even helping or just watching? Whats the plan? Well you said it was easy, I simply want you to show me, I must clearly be doing it wrong. The form of it is not that important IMO. - No forge roof camping. - I would prefer ambush cause there's where the truly tough games are, I mean, 6 enemy tanks and no place to hide very ofthen.We can do it in other modes too, not that important. - I will observe, you said it was easy so why do you need a group?Or my help? If you bring in 1 friend you can go 2 vs1 against the tanks, fair enough? And I really hope that FOTM fit and Modded controller comment was directed at someone else, That couldn't be me you're talking about unless you're seriously deluded. No FG camping lol Ambush hard lol thats because an AR doesnt kill a tank amiright? but frankly no ambush is very meh and tanks are in all modes anyways Why do i need a group? let see because its always easier to take something down in a group, thats called teamwork, a rare concept to AV users and one concept i use weather im in a tank or not You go Av in ambush against a tank rain and lets see how hard it is.... I'm signing into dust right now. How many people do you need to demonstrate how easy AV play is? 5 would be max since I'm there too.... I'll be in "Rainbow anything" in 5 minutes, and I must say: I'm impressed that you wanna take this challenge, didn't think that would happen.... http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2092	Posted - 2013.12.30 14:50:00 - [39] - Quote KingBabar wrote: You go Av in ambush against a tank rain and lets see how hard it is.... I'm signing into dust right now. How many people do you need to demonstrate how easy AV play is? 5 would be max since I'm there too.... I'll be in "Rainbow anything" in 5 minutes, and I must say: I'm impressed that you wanna take this challenge, didn't think that would happen.... You keep saying ambush I dont do ambush i do proper modes Intelligence is OP
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven 2387	Posted - 2013.12.30 14:52:00 - [40] - Quote KingBabar wrote: If this corp was truly intended for owning districts in PC I would agree with you. This is however a merc corp. And with 2 exceptions (1 super logi and 1 AV specialist) we're all experienced players with good gear and good to great gungame. If people are to keep paying us 5 M per merc per battle +bonus I'd like to keep it so that our customers come again and again, filling the corp with "potentials" or "good enough" people, could lead to poor performance and us loosing business because of that. I also have to actually like and know the dudes in my corp, see what happened to SI who recruited way too fast. Dust is by far the easiest FPS game to do well in, by a mile. Even a semi blind scrub like me gets a moronic KDR.... A 2 KDR is a great score in any game, but not in Dust. Besides, if you're paying good isk for a squad to help you out, wouldn't you want some sort of set standard? I mean, we all have our bad games but its not like a player with said recuirements are bad in general... Mmmh, so a group of very solid PC ringers? Ok, that makes sense. And I perfectly agree about the "you have to know the people", but stats are not a guarantee, in these terms. Anyway, I'm sure you know that there are awesome players with great gun game and less than 20 M. Would you really reject their applications? 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"

Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3186	Posted - 2013.12.30 14:58:00 - [41] - Quote Why not in something tactical like domination or skirmish, it's better to set up traps and stuff. I do admit that tanks in lolambush is a massive problem but it isn't nearly as bad in the other gamemodes. Lack of content makes stuff broken... Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1513	Posted - 2013.12.30 15:01:00 - [42] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KingBabar wrote: You go Av in ambush against a tank rain and lets see how hard it is.... I'm signing into dust right now. How many people do you need to demonstrate how easy AV play is? 5 would be max since I'm there too.... I'll be in "Rainbow anything" in 5 minutes, and I must say: I'm impressed that you wanna take this challenge, didn't think that would happen.... You keep saying ambush I dont do ambush i do proper modes OK then no ambush. I understand. Its just way harder in ambush thats all. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1513	Posted - 2013.12.30 15:04:00 - [43] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: KingBabar wrote: If this corp was truly intended for owning districts in PC I would agree with you. This is however a merc corp. And with 2 exceptions (1 super logi and 1 AV specialist) we're all experienced players with good gear and good to great gungame. If people are to keep paying us 5 M per merc per battle +bonus I'd like to keep it so that our customers come again and again, filling the corp with "potentials" or "good enough" people, could lead to poor performance and us loosing business because of that. I also have to actually like and know the dudes in my corp, see what happened to SI who recruited way too fast. Dust is by far the easiest FPS game to do well in, by a mile. Even a semi blind scrub like me gets a moronic KDR.... A 2 KDR is a great score in any game, but not in Dust. Besides, if you're paying good isk for a squad to help you out, wouldn't you want some sort of set standard? I mean, we all have our bad games but its not like a player with said recuirements are bad in general... Mmmh, so a group of very solid PC ringers? Ok, that makes sense. And I perfectly agree about the "you have to know the people", but stats are not a guarantee, in these terms. Anyway, I'm sure you know that there are awesome players with great gun game and less than 20 M. Would you really reject their applications? No, that was a typo, its officially 15 M SP, but none of these numbers are set in stone, we have guys with lesser stats but they've gotten in after impressing me or others over several games. Hit me up if you wanna do some games... http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven 2388	Posted - 2013.12.30 15:19:00 - [44] - Quote KingBabar wrote: No, that was a typo, its officially 15 M SP, but none of these numbers are set in stone, we have guys with lesser stats but they've gotten in after impressing me or others over several games. Hit me up if you wanna do some games... I will. Is "Rainbow Office" your public chat? 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1516	Posted - 2013.12.30 15:20:00 - [45] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: KingBabar wrote: No, that was a typo, its officially 15 M SP, but none of these numbers are set in stone, we have guys with lesser stats but they've gotten in after impressing me or others over several games. Hit me up if you wanna do some games... I will. Is "Rainbow Office" your public chat? Yes Edit: Scacci tells me you're Italian and very good, both of which will be very appreciated! http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven 2388	Posted - 2013.12.30 16:06:00 - [46] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: KingBabar wrote: No, that was a typo, its officially 15 M SP, but none of these numbers are set in stone, we have guys with lesser stats but they've gotten in after impressing me or others over several games. Hit me up if you wanna do some games... I will. Is "Rainbow Office" your public chat? Yes Edit: Scacci tells me you're Italian and very good, both of which will be very appreciated! 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2009	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:09:00 - [47] - Quote The tankers who say "i dont play ambush, i play proper modes" are blatantly aware that tanks are inbalanced at the moment thats why they avoid that mode cause you cant avoid the tanks. On skirmish you can sit in the redline with a safe spawn. Ambush is like hardcore mode on dust. Its either you win stright from the begining or get demolished hard. And go ahead try to kill a redline railgun tank with swarms/forgegun. I highly doubt it that you will have any sucess at all. Redline= easy mode/save haven. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2467	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:19:00 - [48] - Quote Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks. Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. Proud member of the Commndo 6 <3 Commando AK.0
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 959	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:25:00 - [49] - Quote KingBabar wrote: 1. Join Our "Rainbow Office" chat channel. 2. Contact me and we'll Group up. 3. We'll play some EU ambush until we come up against a decent set of tank spammers. 4. Do Your "Easy AV" play you claim you can do. 5. I'll record it all and we'll deflate this myth that the only true effective Counter to tanks is more tanks. Talk is cheap guys.... Edit: Its posts like this from experienced tankers like Jason Pearson and EnglishSnake AKA Takashiro something from Red Star that really shows some of these guys' true colours. They talk the talk but will they walk the walk? I doubt it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=132574 Huh? I don't think I'm following who's side you are on or what you are trying to prove. This post is ambiguous. Whatever though. Just play the d*mn game ppl. Jeez. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 1840	Posted - 2013.12.30 22:13:00 - [50] - Quote Wallaby1 wrote: just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so OP that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle I'm sorry that your crappy tanks with crappy fits all got popped. I pop most rail tanks with ease in my Soma, provided they don't get me from behind or stay in the red line, both of which are unlikely in Ambush. If 1 RG and 1 FG can take out 7 Somas, your team sucks, because I usually have that on my one Soma, especially if you count rail Sicas. My last Nyain San match had a hell of a lot of enemy rail tanks dropping everyone against our blaster Somas and rail Sicas and we still won by a good margin. Most teams don't even have that many pilots. Coordinated AV can definitely drop my Soma; I still think it takes far more coordination when it takes a whole squad. My Gunnlogi? No. It's pretty much impossible to kill without tank support unless you nuke it with several synched FG shots and explosives. I don't think I've ever died in my Gunnlogi to a FG or Swarms with my hardener running without either the full enemy team firing at me all at once or me being pelted by other tanks and installations at the same time. It only costs 160k; really breaking the bank. I die all the time, but rarely because of infantry. As for "deploy other tanks," this is because most tanks are crappy militia tanks and poorly fit standard tanks that are easily popped by anything that this works. When you pull out 7 tanks the enemy either needs better tanks, you to be a moron consistently or them to have high level rail tanks. There's not a Bob on every enemy team with 3 amps and an accelerator, I'm sorry. As a role, tanks are OP. If tanks were a form of infantry, everyone would agree. As cheap as suits, 100 times stronger and faster. The only negative is that they are big and easy to hit, like a Heavy on drugs. The match should not be decided by how many of your teammates chose tanking as their role. Are matches decided by how many Scouts the enemy has? Does the enemy need as many Scouts as you do and if you have 6 Scouts you win 95% of matches? Fire of Prometheus wrote: Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks. Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. This. If I die to AV with hardeners up and I'm not engaged in TvT, it's because a LAV just rammed REs into my rear. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.

Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 150	Posted - 2013.12.30 22:21:00 - [51] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks. Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. I hit a gunnlogi with an LAV with 6 REs on the nose, no kill. So I went back in again, this time with 9 REs on the nose, still no kill. Maybe it was just a glitch? If his hardners were running it wasn't showing up on my screen.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1705	Posted - 2013.12.30 22:22:00 - [52] - Quote EnglishSnake, my god i have not seen that name in years... Amarr! Try EVE Online Buying Deamon Shotgun
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 1841	Posted - 2013.12.30 22:26:00 - [53] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks. Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. I hit a gunnlogi with an LAV with 6 REs on the nose, no kill. So I went back in again, this time with 9 REs on the nose, still no kill. Maybe it was just a glitch? If his hardners were running it wasn't showing up on my screen. If his hardeners were down, he should've died for sure. Hell, with 9 REs you can OHKO an unextended Gunnlogi through a hardener; I have lost several like this at full health while cycling. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 73	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:31:00 - [54] - Quote can I come along! imagine the s#!t you can kill from a throne.... fu@#!n Rome.
Lorhak Gannarsein 946	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:44:00 - [55] - Quote Borne Velvalor wrote: Wallaby1 wrote: just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so OP that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle I'm sorry that your crappy tanks with crappy fits all got popped. I pop most rail tanks with ease in my Soma, provided they don't get me from behind or stay in the red line, both of which are unlikely in Ambush. If 1 RG and 1 FG can take out 7 Somas, your team sucks, because I usually have that on my one Soma, especially if you count rail Sicas. My last Nyain San match had a hell of a lot of enemy rail tanks dropping everyone against our blaster Somas and rail Sicas and we still won by a good margin. Most teams don't even have that many pilots. Coordinated AV can definitely drop my Soma; I still think it takes far more coordination when it takes a whole squad. My Gunnlogi? No. It's pretty much impossible to kill without tank support unless you nuke it with several synched FG shots and explosives. I don't think I've ever died in my Gunnlogi to a FG or Swarms with my hardener running without either the full enemy team firing at me all at once or me being pelted by other tanks and installations at the same time. It only costs 160k; really breaking the bank. I die all the time, but rarely because of infantry. As for "deploy other tanks," this is because most tanks are crappy militia tanks and poorly fit standard tanks that are easily popped by anything that this works. When you pull out 7 tanks the enemy either needs better tanks, you to be a moron consistently or them to have high level rail tanks. There's not a Bob on every enemy team with 3 amps and an accelerator, I'm sorry. As a role, tanks are OP. If tanks were a form of infantry, everyone would agree. As cheap as suits, 100 times stronger and faster. The only negative is that they are big and easy to hit, like a Heavy on drugs. The match should not be decided by how many of your teammates chose tanking as their role. Are matches decided by how many Scouts the enemy has? Does the enemy need as many Scouts as you do and if you have 6 Scouts you win 95% of matches? Fire of Prometheus wrote: Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks. Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. This. If I die to AV with hardeners up and I'm not engaged in TvT, it's because a LAV just rammed REs into my rear. I got insta-ed through my hardeners by forges once . That was scary. PRO tanker and proud. Lentarr Legionary.
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 326	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:44:00 - [56] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KingBabar wrote: You go Av in ambush against a tank rain and lets see how hard it is.... I'm signing into dust right now. How many people do you need to demonstrate how easy AV play is? 5 would be max since I'm there too.... I'll be in "Rainbow anything" in 5 minutes, and I must say: I'm impressed that you wanna take this challenge, didn't think that would happen.... You keep saying ambush I dont do ambush i do proper modes OK then no ambush. I understand. Its just way harder in ambush thats all. NO! don't back down, I want to see this in Ambush. Spawn AV from the beginning, survive the infantry also. Lets see how easy it is to be a pure AV vs tanks and infantry if it is as easy as tankers say. Tell you what, I'll join as a pure AV and PVR second view to help your cause. Lets see if the tankers AV do better than me. I can come in proto. YouTube 30D Recruiting
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 1843	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:48:00 - [57] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Borne Velvalor wrote: Wallaby1 wrote: just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so OP that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle I'm sorry that your crappy tanks with crappy fits all got popped. I pop most rail tanks with ease in my Soma, provided they don't get me from behind or stay in the red line, both of which are unlikely in Ambush. If 1 RG and 1 FG can take out 7 Somas, your team sucks, because I usually have that on my one Soma, especially if you count rail Sicas. My last Nyain San match had a hell of a lot of enemy rail tanks dropping everyone against our blaster Somas and rail Sicas and we still won by a good margin. Most teams don't even have that many pilots. Coordinated AV can definitely drop my Soma; I still think it takes far more coordination when it takes a whole squad. My Gunnlogi? No. It's pretty much impossible to kill without tank support unless you nuke it with several synched FG shots and explosives. I don't think I've ever died in my Gunnlogi to a FG or Swarms with my hardener running without either the full enemy team firing at me all at once or me being pelted by other tanks and installations at the same time. It only costs 160k; really breaking the bank. I die all the time, but rarely because of infantry. As for "deploy other tanks," this is because most tanks are crappy militia tanks and poorly fit standard tanks that are easily popped by anything that this works. When you pull out 7 tanks the enemy either needs better tanks, you to be a moron consistently or them to have high level rail tanks. There's not a Bob on every enemy team with 3 amps and an accelerator, I'm sorry. As a role, tanks are OP. If tanks were a form of infantry, everyone would agree. As cheap as suits, 100 times stronger and faster. The only negative is that they are big and easy to hit, like a Heavy on drugs. The match should not be decided by how many of your teammates chose tanking as their role. Are matches decided by how many Scouts the enemy has? Does the enemy need as many Scouts as you do and if you have 6 Scouts you win 95% of matches? Fire of Prometheus wrote: Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks. Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. This. If I die to AV with hardeners up and I'm not engaged in TvT, it's because a LAV just rammed REs into my rear. I got insta-ed through my hardeners by forges once . That was scary. Synched Forges are about the only tactic that reliably pops a decent pilot. 3 proto modded FGs all hitting a single hardened Gunnlogi can't even drop the shields, though. At this point I stack my hardeners and try to wipe them off the map. It's not a reliable enough AV tactic in publics unless you purposefully make a full Forge Gun AV squad, though. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2847	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:51:00 - [58] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: NO! don't back down, I want to see this in Ambush. Spawn AV from the beginning, survive the infantry also. Lets see how easy it is to be a pure AV vs tanks and infantry if it is as easy as tankers say. Tell you what, I'll join as a pure AV and PVR second view to help your cause. Lets see if the tankers AV do better than me. I can come in proto. Oh god yes. I want to come along for the ride. Make them do it in ALL 3 Gamemodes (Ambush, Skirmish, and Domination). And make them use Swarm Launchers and Plasma Cannons. ...
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 373	Posted - 2013.12.31 15:04:00 - [59] - Quote So, how did it go?
Jason Pearson 3710	Posted - 2013.12.31 15:12:00 - [60] - Quote You know full well you wouldn't catch me in a squad with any Rainbow Effect players, sorry, I have standards :P King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Zaria for Miss Universe 2014

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2874	Posted - 2013.12.31 18:35:00 - [61] - Quote Bump because it needs to happen. And to the OP: Make them do All 3 Gamemodes. That way we can get an accurate observation of the debacle. And, make them use something other than Forge Guns. ...
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2013.12.31 19:43:00 - [62] - Quote Did someone show up? I am just curious...
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command 927	Posted - 2013.12.31 19:44:00 - [63] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: EnglishSnake, my god i have not seen that name in years... I know, right? Lore-wise: Calamari are my preferred. Amarricans are my despised. Importantly: Frogs n' Brutes have all my stuff...
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 166	Posted - 2013.12.31 19:57:00 - [64] - Quote Spam more tanks (with competent drivers) in Ambush and it's almost a sure thing win -- they simply outkill the opposition. Spam tanks in Skirmish, and often it makes little difference in the outcome -- those matches generally are won by the better infantry, and tanks don't mean as much when it comes time to taking flags (particularly those protected from direct tank fire). Domination is more of a toss up.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5218	Posted - 2013.12.31 19:59:00 - [65] - Quote Yes, this one probably won't happen. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
J0hlss0n Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 77	Posted - 2014.01.02 16:54:00 - [66] - Quote So... no one accepts this challenge to show how easy AV'ing is?
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 301	Posted - 2014.01.02 18:28:00 - [67] - Quote +1 While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
ReGnYuM Imperfects 1663	Posted - 2014.01.02 18:44:00 - [68] - Quote OP basically asked for the tankers to get out of their tanks and play infantry... LMFAO There is reason why a player chooses to have +5000 EHP in a FPS Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress
Jason Pearson 3735	Posted - 2014.01.02 18:48:00 - [69] - Quote J0hlss0n wrote: So... no one accepts this challenge to show how easy AV'ing is? Knowing my luck I'd accept, end up in a fight against Taka, Spkr, Lorhak, Peg and Morte, and just cry. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Zaria for Miss Universe 2014
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2954	Posted - 2014.01.02 18:58:00 - [70] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: J0hlss0n wrote: So... no one accepts this challenge to show how easy AV'ing is? Knowing my luck I'd accept, end up in a fight against Taka, Spkr, Lorhak, Peg and Morte, and just cry. That's actually what I want to see. Tanker's "AV" going up against scrub pilots, and then going up against vet pilots. Also, extend this to Assault Dropships as well. Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate

J0hlss0n Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 78	Posted - 2014.01.02 19:03:00 - [71] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Knowing my luck I'd accept, end up in a fight against Taka, Spkr, Lorhak, Peg and Morte, and just cry. Dont worry, just take out your av and start pushing them back, and they rep, push them back and they rep... and mix this up with a few deaths of your clone and loads of your blueberries. ;)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2954	Posted - 2014.01.02 19:09:00 - [72] - Quote J0hlss0n wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: Knowing my luck I'd accept, end up in a fight against Taka, Spkr, Lorhak, Peg and Morte, and just cry. Dont worry, just take out your av and start pushing them back, and they rep, push them back and they rep... and mix this up with a few deaths of your clone and loads of your blueberries. ;) Death #1: -200k ISK Death #2: -200k ISK Death #3: -200k ISK Death #4: -200k ISK 800k ISK. You had better be playing PC, or your wallet's gonna cry. I wouldn't waste that much ISK on blueberries. And AV is a cheap profession Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate
m621 zma OMFGZOMBIESRUN 68	Posted - 2014.01.02 19:18:00 - [73] - Quote Well I just killed some dude and stole his tank. It had NO fcking hardeners.... None.... None at all, that's who these 'AV can easily kill tanks' people are fighting, idiots that can't even fit a single hardener.
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 157	Posted - 2014.01.02 19:20:00 - [74] - Quote ....I shall VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1574	Posted - 2014.01.02 21:59:00 - [75] - Quote The challenge still stands. Mua ha ha ha haa. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 623	Posted - 2014.01.03 03:16:00 - [76] - Quote KingBabar wrote: The challenge still stands. Mua ha ha ha haa. Lulz The Last Of The BHD
syn kaine Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.01.03 03:24:00 - [77] - Quote Please keep this thread on the first page.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2968	Posted - 2014.01.03 03:37:00 - [78] - Quote syn kaine wrote: Please keep this thread on the first page. How much ISK or AUR do you think it would take to get this thread stickied? Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 345	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:45:00 - [79] - Quote Atiim wrote: syn kaine wrote: Please keep this thread on the first page. How much ISK or AUR do you think it would take to get this thread stickied? I'll set a reminder to bump. YouTube 30D Recruiting
PEW JACKSON s i n g u l a r i t y 160	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:13:00 - [80] - Quote Bump Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2979	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:15:00 - [81] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Atiim wrote: syn kaine wrote: Please keep this thread on the first page. How much ISK or AUR do you think it would take to get this thread stickied? I'll set a reminder to bump. It's being put in my signature. Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 194	Posted - 2014.01.03 06:08:00 - [82] - Quote So anyone take you up on this offer yet? It seems like every day someone is destroying tons of tanks with starter gear, so I assume you are now broke.
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix 625	Posted - 2014.01.03 07:26:00 - [83] - Quote Atiim wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Atiim wrote: syn kaine wrote: Please keep this thread on the first page. How much ISK or AUR do you think it would take to get this thread stickied? I'll set a reminder to bump. It's being put in my signature. The link in your signature is broken. Crimson Cerberes wrote: So anyone take you up on this offer yet? It seems like every day someone is destroying tons of tanks with starter gear, so I assume you are now broke. Sgt Nova Star accepted on the last page or at least I think he did. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 345	Posted - 2014.01.03 08:52:00 - [84] - Quote I'll hopefully be posting my results soon - been running tanks since the patch and have some interesting notes, as I was formerly running just AV. the people you cite are just well known tank trolls who have fantastic arguments like "get gud" , "team up with a tanker"... and they brought out a new one I had never heard the other day "swarm launchers are meant for LAV's, forge guns are meant for HAV's"... yep that's the new tank troll of the week.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1577	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:10:00 - [85] - Quote For the record: I haven't made up my mind about this entire tanks vs AV debacle. I do see tank after tank gets blown up (though mostly by other tanks), but I also see tank Squads ruling the Battlefield With entire Squads of AV players getting stomped.... Its as always a matter of situation, team composition and general skill of the players. Having dudes thats hardly done anything but tank for almost 2 years come here and claim how easy av is, that they can drop a tank in standard gear without any skills invested is pure nonsense, especially the "easy" part of it all. So far I can see 2 major issues thats off: 1. Tank spam in Ambush. Not that I play that game mode much these days but it is nice to have a Place where we can just screw around and shoot someone in the face, without worrying about much else. A co-ordinated tank Train is a sure winner and is about to break that entire game mode, its a shame. 2. The accuracy/efficiency of Large blasters. Yes we've always had them and no one complained, why? I don't have a Clue. Perhaps it would be best to remove it all together or do some tweaks to them, i dunno. IMO the large guns should be for other vehicles, installations, aerial vehicles and area denial, not the supersized AR, infantry killer it is today. With the removal of large blasters, tankers will off course get the occational infantry kill. Did you ever hear a ground pounder complain about getting killed by a rail or missile tank? I haven't. If Heavy blasters would be removed, the tankers needs to fit their smaller turrets for Close infantri submission. This will lead to the tankers "suffering" from the same issue that AV infantry has, as an AVer you're pretty much dependant on guys to cover and take out enemy infantry or you'll not even get Close. To do everything you need more than 1 dude in the Box. Today the tanks are: - Very solid in terms of HP - Very solid in terms of keeping that hp With hardeners - Very solid in terms of repping time - Very solid vs anything not infantry - Very solid vs infantry - And they are fast to the point were it actually looks silly or "cartoonish" when you see them speed boost away... Removing large blasters would give them a proper role on the Battlefield, not the "be all do all better than anything else" machines they are today. Does this sound balanced? http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Mortedeamor 1177	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:19:00 - [86] - Quote unfortunatley i cannot do as u say on the u servers as vehicle spamm for american on eu servers causes the eu server players vehicles to teleport/...but once ccp fixes the lag issue sure why use suits when ccp gave us nice shiny op as hell tanks that cost next to nothing
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:43:00 - [87] - Quote KingBabar wrote: 1. Join Our "Rainbow Office" chat channel. 2. Contact me and we'll Group up. 3. We'll play some EU ambush until we come up against a decent set of tank spammers. 4. Do Your "Easy AV" play you claim you can do. 5. I'll record it all and we'll deflate this myth that the only true effective Counter to tanks is more tanks. Talk is cheap guys.... Edit: Its posts like this from experienced tankers like Jason Pearson and EnglishSnake AKA Takashiro something from Red Star that really shows some of these guys' true colours. They talk the talk but will they walk the walk? I doubt it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=132574 But we don't play ambush. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:45:00 - [88] - Quote KingBabar wrote: And please elaborate, how can AV-ers learn to get better? LOL You want a serious answer? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:47:00 - [89] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Man I was on an ALT before downtime and I felt a bit bad smashing red dot tanks in an ambush before they could even get in them. I would drive up and smash the poor guys before there vehicles could even fully deploy. I propose vehicles drop in fast just like turrets and supply depots do in OMS you know that woooshhhh booom sound that comes from the sky as the installations drop in from space. Vehicles should do that too. Its not very fair that I can roll up and smash them before they can even use them, still I couldn't help but laugh maniacally! MUHAHA Btw as it stands swarms are pretty UP, when I'm in a tank on my alt 90% of swarms are just a way to give away a position. I propose swarms get a small increase to damage and a little more range too. Not the same range they had before, but a bit further than their max range is now. P.S Have all of you rainbow guys been playing for a long time? I always see people like Taz666 in those ambushes and I remember him from closed beta I think. He always seems to be in ambushes lol Because it's the simplest mode. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:48:00 - [90] - Quote KingBabar wrote: We both mean that the only proper counter to tanks is calling in your own tank. You seem to think thats fine, I however do not. Why is that wrong? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:49:00 - [91] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolambush Sorry i only play real modes Ok, lets do it in whatever game mode you like best. Are you free tonight? And LOL at "real modes", a bunch of morons running around in circles hacking and moving on is not any sort of proper game mode IMO. So something where killing is all that matters, and there aren't any objectives to worry about is better? Maybe you should go to Call of Duty and stop trying to ruin it for everyone else. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:50:00 - [92] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: KingBabar wrote: 1. Join Our "Rainbow Office" chat channel. 2. Contact me and we'll Group up. 3. We'll play some EU ambush until we come up against a decent set of tank spammers. 4. Do Your "Easy AV" play you claim you can do. 5. I'll record it all and we'll deflate this myth that the only true effective Counter to tanks is more tanks. Talk is cheap guys.... Edit: Its posts like this from experienced tankers like Jason Pearson and EnglishSnake AKA Takashiro something from Red Star that really shows some of these guys' true colours. They talk the talk but will they walk the walk? I doubt it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=132574 Well said... Nobody likes you, go away. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:51:00 - [93] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: the team that gets their tanks into ambush first will win the match regardless whatever you do. Cause once one side has the map controll with 6 tanks you cant call in a vehicle simply due to the fact that at least 1 tank will see it and blow it up while its still hanging on the bolas. AV doesnt work cause shield tanks are indestructible while they have a shield hardener running. And when they got 3 hardeners its just pointless cause they can run a hardener the whole time non stop. In my opinion AV needs to be buffed back to its former state. This means more swarm launcher damage, more forgegun damage with less charge up time and higher AV grenade damage. You've obviously never fired a rail installation at a red tank with a hardener going. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:54:00 - [94] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: The tankers who say "i dont play ambush, i play proper modes" are blatantly aware that tanks are inbalanced at the moment thats why they avoid that mode cause you cant avoid the tanks. On skirmish you can sit in the redline with a safe spawn. Ambush is like hardcore mode on dust. Its either you win stright from the begining or get demolished hard. And go ahead try to kill a redline railgun tank with swarms/forgegun. I highly doubt it that you will have any sucess at all. Redline= easy mode/save haven. Do you know how many installations are on the bridge map for domination? If you have tankers manning those installations, anything at 580m away dies. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:55:00 - [95] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: EnglishSnake, my god i have not seen that name in years... He's still a damn good gamer. And I'm right behind him. So you have two damn good tanks to deal with. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:56:00 - [96] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: can I come along! Sorry dude, you're too intelligent for them. =V= = high intelligence I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:57:00 - [97] - Quote Atiim wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: NO! don't back down, I want to see this in Ambush. Spawn AV from the beginning, survive the infantry also. Lets see how easy it is to be a pure AV vs tanks and infantry if it is as easy as tankers say. Tell you what, I'll join as a pure AV and PVR second view to help your cause. Lets see if the tankers AV do better than me. I can come in proto. Oh god yes. I want to come along for the ride. Make them do it in ALL 3 Gamemodes (Ambush, Skirmish, and Domination). And make them use Swarm Launchers and Plasma Cannons. Says the guy that supposed had access to decent tank turrets and modules, yet still had to use AV to destroy tanks. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:58:00 - [98] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: OP basically asked for the tankers to get out of their tanks and play infantry... LMFAO There is reason why a player chooses to have +5000 EHP in a FPS It's something different than the monotonous PRO stomping of recent academy graduates. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1578	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:42:00 - [99] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: KingBabar wrote: We both mean that the only proper counter to tanks is calling in your own tank. You seem to think thats fine, I however do not. Why is that wrong? We need as much diversity as we can possible have IMO. If the only effective Counter towards tanks is more tanks, then we do indeed end up With tankspam 514, is that really what you want? - See the red team Calls in a tank, we better do it too. - Red team goes: Se they're also calling in a tank, we better Call in another one in case that dude is good. Two more you say? Lets Call in 3 then..... Silly scenario but you get my point. The traditional rock paper scissors that all games like this should strive for gets kind of broken if someone can have scissors made of rocks, it leaves the papers little Choice.... And seriously Spkr, you have played probably hundred of hours of MAG, where modes like Aquisition and Domination required more tactic than any Dust Skirmish I've played. Please tell me whats so tactical about killing all the enemies and keeping those letters blue? Its almost always a case of the team With the best killers winning the game, at least in my experience. If most games hadn't ended up With me standing and fighting snipers at the redline I would definately play it more, its just that I've spent hours upon hours merely standing there waiting for the game to end cause its absolutely nothing to do short of getting a sniper and try and Countersnipe towards the redline. If we had skirmish 1.0 or something similar that is progressive, or indeed any form of capture the flag game mode you wouldn't se me anywhere else. And in regards to Ambush, the "I don't play that game mode" is hardly a valid point in a discussion now is it? Those/we are a part of this game too after all. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2102	Posted - 2014.01.03 12:32:00 - [100] - Quote KingBabar wrote: For the record: I haven't made up my mind about this entire tanks vs AV debacle. I do see tank after tank gets blown up (though mostly by other tanks), but I also see tank Squads ruling the Battlefield With entire Squads of AV players getting stomped.... Its as always a matter of situation, team composition and general skill of the players. Having dudes thats hardly done anything but tank for almost 2 years come here and claim how easy av is, that they can drop a tank in standard gear without any skills invested is pure nonsense, especially the "easy" part of it all. So far I can see 2 major issues thats off: 1. Tank spam in Ambush. Not that I play that game mode much these days but it is nice to have a Place where we can just screw around and shoot someone in the face, without worrying about much else. A co-ordinated tank Train is a sure winner and is about to break that entire game mode, its a shame. 2. The accuracy/efficiency of Large blasters. Yes we've always had them and no one complained, why? I don't have a Clue. Perhaps it would be best to remove it all together or do some tweaks to them, i dunno. IMO the large guns should be for other vehicles, installations, aerial vehicles and area denial, not the supersized AR, infantry killer it is today. With the removal of large blasters, tankers will off course get the occational infantry kill. Did you ever hear a ground pounder complain about getting killed by a rail or missile tank? I haven't. If Heavy blasters would be removed, the tankers needs to fit their smaller turrets for Close infantri submission. This will lead to the tankers "suffering" from the same issue that AV infantry has, as an AVer you're pretty much dependant on guys to cover and take out enemy infantry or you'll not even get Close. To do everything you need more than 1 dude in the Box. Today the tanks are: - Very solid in terms of HP - Very solid in terms of keeping that hp With hardeners - Very solid in terms of repping time - Very solid vs anything not infantry - Very solid vs infantry - And they are fast to the point were it actually looks silly or "cartoonish" when you see them speed boost away... Removing large blasters would give them a proper role on the Battlefield, not the "be all do all better than anything else" machines they are today. Does this sound balanced? Stop complaining about pubs, pubs is pubs with crap matchmaking 1. lolambush, lolpubambush, lolmatchmaking and whoever spawns in 1st with the tanks win 2. No one complained ever, these turrets are anti infantry and can be anti tank also, 1.7 the right blaster can rip through a tank but its alot harder, this is an anti infantry weapon, a large AR for AR514 which this game still is If you remove large blasters because they kill infantry very well will you also call for the removal of forge guns because they kill vehicles very well So far we have infantry calling for the removal of the railgun turret and now the blaster turret so what we have left is just missiles and infantry will still cry about this turret if we keep killing infantry with it - Very solid in terms of HP - Only EHP, shield standard is 4k, armor is 5.2 and either tank with no hardeners is easy to kill - Very solid in terms of keeping that hp With hardeners - Its what hardeners are made for, they were made to reduce a portion of incoming damage, but no hardeners means it will lose that HP very quickly - Very solid in terms of repping time - Only when not being damaged, go over the damage threshold and the shield rep stops completely, armor is temp stopped - Very solid vs anything not infantry - Its what its made for - Very solid vs infantry - Depending on the fit its what its made for - And they are fast to the point were it actually looks silly or "cartoonish" when you see them speed boost away... - Current heavy tanks can reach upto 40MPH and prob more, this is the future where my tank has shields and less armor so less weight and can move faster and i dunno the hull is made of solid carbon fibre and is propelled by a augmented fusion reactor and with a overdrive injector installed can go even faster Removing blasters is just for infantry who get caught out in the open too much Intelligence is OP

KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1582	Posted - 2014.01.03 12:52:00 - [101] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KingBabar wrote: For the record: I haven't made up my mind about this entire tanks vs AV debacle. I do see tank after tank gets blown up (though mostly by other tanks), but I also see tank Squads ruling the Battlefield With entire Squads of AV players getting stomped.... Its as always a matter of situation, team composition and general skill of the players. Having dudes thats hardly done anything but tank for almost 2 years come here and claim how easy av is, that they can drop a tank in standard gear without any skills invested is pure nonsense, especially the "easy" part of it all. So far I can see 2 major issues thats off: 1. Tank spam in Ambush. Not that I play that game mode much these days but it is nice to have a Place where we can just screw around and shoot someone in the face, without worrying about much else. A co-ordinated tank Train is a sure winner and is about to break that entire game mode, its a shame. 2. The accuracy/efficiency of Large blasters. Yes we've always had them and no one complained, why? I don't have a Clue. Perhaps it would be best to remove it all together or do some tweaks to them, i dunno. IMO the large guns should be for other vehicles, installations, aerial vehicles and area denial, not the supersized AR, infantry killer it is today. With the removal of large blasters, tankers will off course get the occational infantry kill. Did you ever hear a ground pounder complain about getting killed by a rail or missile tank? I haven't. If Heavy blasters would be removed, the tankers needs to fit their smaller turrets for Close infantri submission. This will lead to the tankers "suffering" from the same issue that AV infantry has, as an AVer you're pretty much dependant on guys to cover and take out enemy infantry or you'll not even get Close. To do everything you need more than 1 dude in the Box. Today the tanks are: - Very solid in terms of HP - Very solid in terms of keeping that hp With hardeners - Very solid in terms of repping time - Very solid vs anything not infantry - Very solid vs infantry - And they are fast to the point were it actually looks silly or "cartoonish" when you see them speed boost away... Removing large blasters would give them a proper role on the Battlefield, not the "be all do all better than anything else" machines they are today. Does this sound balanced? Stop complaining about pubs, pubs is pubs with crap matchmaking 1. lolambush, lolpubambush, lolmatchmaking and whoever spawns in 1st with the tanks win 2. No one complained ever, these turrets are anti infantry and can be anti tank also, 1.7 the right blaster can rip through a tank but its alot harder, this is an anti infantry weapon, a large AR for AR514 which this game still is If you remove large blasters because they kill infantry very well will you also call for the removal of forge guns because they kill vehicles very well So far we have infantry calling for the removal of the railgun turret and now the blaster turret so what we have left is just missiles and infantry will still cry about this turret if we keep killing infantry with it - Very solid in terms of HP - Only EHP, shield standard is 4k, armor is 5.2 and either tank with no hardeners is easy to kill - Very solid in terms of keeping that hp With hardeners - Its what hardeners are made for, they were made to reduce a portion of incoming damage, but no hardeners means it will lose that HP very quickly - Very solid in terms of repping time - Only when not being damaged, go over the damage threshold and the shield rep stops completely, armor is temp stopped - Very solid vs anything not infantry - Its what its made for - Very solid vs infantry - Depending on the fit its what its made for - And they are fast to the point were it actually looks silly or "cartoonish" when you see them speed boost away... - Current heavy tanks can reach upto 40MPH and prob more, this is the future where my tank has shields and less armor so less weight and can move faster and i dunno the hull is made of solid carbon fibre and is propelled by a augmented fusion reactor and with a overdrive injector installed can go even faster Removing blasters is just for infantry who get caught out in the open too much All I see is: PBI - get gud, use teamwork cause you need to do so to do any form of AV short of Jihad LAV. I run a tank, and should be able to do it all short of hacking objectives, why should I Waste that PG/CPU and fill the smaller turrets With friends when I can manage alone and stomp anything alone? Why should infantry be dependant on teamwork but the tankers should not? And FFS, a real world argument? Really? ES, I didn't think you'd go that low. Well here's one for you: No tank today has a fast shooting anti-infantry gun as a priamry, that job is handled by the smaller guns on the tank, which it should on Yours too. This is not an argument I would ever bring up normally. (Yes there are some armored vehicles With a fast shooting 50 cal on the roof, not exactly the same as the giant blasters we have in Dust.) And again, dismissing parts of the game cause you don't play it yourselves shows how selfish you really are. And no, I wouldn't remove forge's, they normally need to be 2 to take Down any decent tanker, I would however increase the range of the smaller blasters so you don't get outranged by forges. Edit: I have yet to see any of you tankers man up and face my Challenge, talk is cheap.... http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
J0hlss0n Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 78	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:10:00 - [102] - Quote KingBabar wrote: I have yet to see any of you tankers man up and face my Challenge, talk is cheap.... They probably wont, more excuses will show up for not take on the challenge and yet we will still be seeing threads about them calling "AV easy" and "AV'ers doing it wrong, get good" or "I only use basic AV and still kill tanks left and right"... I really like and respect most this community but some people is just laughable...
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1582	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:16:00 - [103] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: unfortunatley i cannot do as u say on the u servers as vehicle spamm for american on eu servers causes the eu server players vehicles to teleport/...but once ccp fixes the lag issue sure I'll gladly do it on US servers, I play on them all the time. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2102	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:24:00 - [104] - Quote KingBabar wrote: All I see is: PBI - get gud, use teamwork cause you need to do so to do any form of AV short of Jihad LAV. I run a tank, and should be able to do it all short of hacking objectives, why should I Waste that PG/CPU and fill the smaller turrets With friends when I can manage alone and stomp anything alone? Why should infantry be dependant on teamwork but the tankers should not? And FFS, a real world argument? Really? ES, I didn't think you'd go that low. Well here's one for you: No tank today has a fast shooting anti-infantry gun as a priamry, that job is handled by the smaller guns on the tank, which it should on Yours too. This is not an argument I would ever bring up normally. (Yes there are some armored vehicles With a fast shooting 50 cal on the roof, not exactly the same as the giant blasters we have in Dust.) And again, dismissing parts of the game cause you don't play it yourselves shows how selfish you really are. And no, I wouldn't remove forge's, they normally need to be 2 to take Down any decent tanker, I would however increase the range of the smaller blasters so you don't get outranged by forges. Edit: I have yet to see any of you tankers man up and face my Challenge, talk is cheap.... Why should i put small turrets on? i cant lock the doors, i cant kick players out who i dont want in my tank, i cant stop bluedots from getting in if one of my guys is out and hacking an objective - Give me the tools and may run small turrets again Tankers use teamwork, i use teamwork and work with other tanks/infantry, i find AV do not use teamwork and still think that a clip of a proto swarm will take care of everything Infantry use real world arguments such as a tank takes a crew of 4 to run it, the driver shouldnt have a gun, it only takes 1 rpg to kill a tank etc but double standards if i use it okay i got it loldismisisng parts of the game - Very solid in terms of HP - Only EHP, shield standard is 4k, armor is 5.2 and either tank with no hardeners is easy to kill - Very solid in terms of keeping that hp With hardeners - Its what hardeners are made for, they were made to reduce a portion of incoming damage, but no hardeners means it will lose that HP very quickly - Very solid in terms of repping time - Only when not being damaged, go over the damage threshold and the shield rep stops completely, armor is temp stopped - Very solid vs anything not infantry - Its what its made for - Very solid vs infantry - Depending on the fit its what its made for - And they are fast to the point were it actually looks silly or "cartoonish" when you see them speed boost away... - Current heavy tanks can reach upto 40MPH and prob more, this is the future where my tank has shields and less armor so less weight and can move faster and i dunno the hull is made of solid carbon fibre and is propelled by a augmented fusion reactor and with a overdrive injector installed can go even faster You mean you cant reply to it because im right Your challenge is doing AV in lolambush, then again how many times did AV say tanking was easy from 1.0 to 1.6? we even gave AV players a fully fitted top of the line tank and see if they could survive the whole game in it, only 1 person i know took the challenge on and lost the tank in 5mins so AV is also all talk while we are at it Intelligence is OP
ZiwZih Seraphim Initiative.. 347	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:48:00 - [105] - Quote Vagueness. Six pages of it. Can we get more clear answer like "Yes Babar, good idea" or "No Babar, you fool" instead of all this logorrheic BS and excuses? Or dear tankers of ours intend to keep practising their semantics for future CSM candidacy here? ZEN 514
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1583	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:49:00 - [106] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KingBabar wrote: ... Why should i put small turrets on? i cant lock the doors, i cant kick players out who i dont want in my tank, i cant stop bluedots from getting in if one of my guys is out and hacking an objective - Give me the tools and may run small turrets again Tankers use teamwork, i use teamwork and work with other tanks/infantry, i find AV do not use teamwork and still think that a clip of a proto swarm will take care of everything Infantry use real world arguments such as a tank takes a crew of 4 to run it, the driver shouldnt have a gun, it only takes 1 rpg to kill a tank etc but double standards if i use it okay i got it loldismisisng parts of the game - Very solid in terms of HP - Only EHP, shield standard is 4k, armor is 5.2 and either tank with no hardeners is easy to kill - Very solid in terms of keeping that hp With hardeners - Its what hardeners are made for, they were made to reduce a portion of incoming damage, but no hardeners means it will lose that HP very quickly - Very solid in terms of repping time - Only when not being damaged, go over the damage threshold and the shield rep stops completely, armor is temp stopped - Very solid vs anything not infantry - Its what its made for - Very solid vs infantry - Depending on the fit its what its made for - And they are fast to the point were it actually looks silly or "cartoonish" when you see them speed boost away... - Current heavy tanks can reach upto 40MPH and prob more, this is the future where my tank has shields and less armor so less weight and can move faster and i dunno the hull is made of solid carbon fibre and is propelled by a augmented fusion reactor and with a overdrive injector installed can go even faster You mean you cant reply to it because im right Your challenge is doing AV in lolambush, then again how many times did AV say tanking was easy from 1.0 to 1.6? we even gave AV players a fully fitted top of the line tank and see if they could survive the whole game in it, only 1 person i know took the challenge on and lost the tank in 5mins so AV is also all talk while we are at it 1. Don't care what others have said or claimed earlier, lets focus on the situation at hand. 2. You and Jason are the ones claiming AV is easy, thats the real issue here, just taste it: "easy". And the danm list: - 4k is the lowest amount on a tank and still higher than anything short of installations, I Call that a lot, its a tank, not saying they have too much, just saying they have the most. - People run 3 hardeners and With a little smart play you can survive everything short of other tanks. - What is that treshold? I see tanks losing 5K hp and be back a very short time after fully charged, this is also ok. - And you claim that a tank should be effective against anything dependant on fit, ok. What then are the Counter to tanks other than more tanks? A wave of Av players? Mines everywhere An entire team focusing on those 5 tanks while the rest of the infantry goes unchecked? You have the best tankers you normally win the game, thats a fact. - Its very teasy to explain everything in a sci-fi universe, doesn't mean it doesn't look silly. Individually I don't have any issues With any of the Things mention above, its the combinations of all of them that is a tad too much currently. Another sollutions would be to give the dropships more effective weapons vs tanks, now that would be balanced. Tank>AV - DS>Tank and AV>DS or something like that, you see rock paper scissors, now iits tank tank tank. I don't come here pretending I have the ansver, all I know is that the game is a little too tank oriented atm. The Things we can agree on is the loocking of vehicles so you don't get a bunch of nubs in there, you cot my sympathy there. Anyways, I'm fed up With you now, you're obviously biased and think more about your own preffered role and little of the general Balance of the game. And do mind, I'm not here to get any sort of super tank nerf going, its just a tad too much atm. And I'm also getting bored by all this, weren't you the guy that sat on a mountaintop fir half a year redline sniping With a tank? I mean, the community even named that hill up after you, it says a little about you as a player and by extension how biased you are. Its perfectly Natural tfor you to sit way out of harms way and just rack in the kills. I do protostomp true, but its not like the dude standing 10 m from can't shoot back.... And again its all about Your and Jason's claim, saying AV is easy. Easy compared to what? If you'd go back on Your Words and said: "AV play is challanging and it should be, its a tank FFS sake, being hard to kill is what they're all about. Yes you need to be 2 AVers vs a single tank in most cases but that is to be expected". No but you come here and claim that you're good and all the AVers are just **** players that can't play the game properly. Its a very high nose selfish and not least childish way of looking at it. And I wouldn't have bothered to make this thread in the first Place. And still neither of you will take me up on that Challenge, and until you do, my point still stands. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2102	Posted - 2014.01.03 14:04:00 - [107] - Quote KingBabar wrote: 1. Don't care what others have said or claimed earlier, lets focus on the situation at hand. 2. You and Jason are the ones claiming AV is easy, thats the real issue here, just taste it: "easy". And the danm list: - 4k is the lowest amount on a tank and still higher than anything short of installations, I Call that a lot, its a tank, not saying they have too much, just saying they have the most. - People run 3 hardeners and With a little smart play you can survive everything short of other tanks. - What is that treshold? I see tanks losing 5K hp and be back a very short time after fully charged, this is also ok. - And you claim that a tank should be effective against anything dependant on fit, ok. What then are the Counter to tanks other than more tanks? A wave of Av players? Mines everywhere An entire team focusing on those 5 tanks while the rest of the infantry goes unchecked? You have the best tankers you normally win the game, thats a fact. - Its very teasy to explain everything in a sci-fi universe, doesn't mean it doesn't look silly. Individually I don't have any issues With any of the Things mention above, its the combinations of all of them that is a tad too much currently. Another sollutions would be to give the dropships more effective weapons vs tanks, now that would be balanced. Tank>AV - DS>Tank and AV>DS or something like that, you see rock paper scissors, now iits tank tank tank. I don't come here pretending I have the ansver, all I know is that the game is a little too tank oriented atm. The Things we can agree on is the loocking of vehicles so you don't get a bunch of nubs in there, you cot my sympathy there. Anyways, I'm fed up With you now, you're obviously biased and think more about your own preffered role and little of the general Balance of the game. And do mind, I'm not here to get any sort of super tank nerf going, its just a tad too much atm. And I'm also getting bored by all this, weren't you the guy that sat on a mountaintop fir half a year redline sniping With a tank? I mean, the community even named that hill up after you, it says a little about you as a player and by extension how biased you are. Its perfectly Natural tfor you to sit way out of harms way and just rack in the kills. I do protostomp true, but its not like the dude standing 10 m from can't shoot back.... And again its all about Your and Jason's claim, saying AV is easy. Easy compared to what? If you'd go back on Your Words and said: "AV play is challanging and it should be, its a tank FFS sake, being hard to kill is what they're all about. Yes you need to be 2 AVers vs a single tank in most cases but that is to be expected". No but you come here and claim that you're good and all the AVers are just **** players that can't play the game properly. Its a very high nose selfish and not least childish way of looking at it. And I wouldn't have bothered to make this thread in the first Place. And still neither of you will take me up on that Challenge, and until you do, my point still stands. 1. Ignores the fact that we dont have the above locking/kicking features, if we did we would use turrets more 2. Ignore the fact that i use teamwork so do many other pilots 3. Ignores what other infantry say even tho been mentions in many threads, loldoublestandards 4. Easy - With no hardeners on, hardeners on use teamwork 5. 4k, last build 6+K with passive/active hardeners 6. There choice, infantry run 3DMG mods and deck you in a second i dont see players complaining about that 7. Threshold is unknown but a FG beats it back on shields even with 1 hardener, armor will rep back near instantly after the shot 8. False - Been on teams with 6 tanks, no win because we dont hack objectives and our infantry suck but thats pubs 9. Counter to tanks - Tanks/AV 10. Game universe - Its why tanks are fast because sci fi game universe and why the hell not 11. DS - Still useful except when a rail comes out but thats the point of a rail tbh 12. Biased - Just like you when you protostomp in FOTM fits like Cal logi and spam core locus nades or even the AUR locus nade which used to insta gib infantry and that was OP but AV nades could do it to tanks and that was fine lol 13. EnglishSnake hill - Thats was orginally with missiles, ended up rail because everyone went rail and was 2 shotting each other so missiles became obsolete also AV could shoot back because 400m lock time or FG or another tank gasp 14. I am good 15. AV players are bad - When i see them shooting AV at me when im shiny, when they try to solo me, when they use swarms against a shield tank etc 16. I would but lolambush Intelligence is OP
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1339	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:50:00 - [108] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: KingBabar wrote: You need to have a min 3.5 KDR, 20 M + SP, a dedicated role and be at least slightly gay! No wonder you have less than 20 active players if you are so elitist! 20 M? Seriously? You're giving up a lot of fresh talents. PC active top corporations have people with much less than 20 M or so said good KDR. I'm absolutely shocked at those requirements. The only understandable one is to be a bit gay. They never actually told me about the gay part ....cuzz i am not but they took me anyways....!!! Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1592	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:59:00 - [109] - Quote I had a good laugh yesterday, we were rolling a group of proto avers, they had about 4 forge guns and 6 proto aver's. we were nearly fully specced out in militia tanks, every single person on our ambush team was calling in tanks, seriously their was a waiting line of people just sitting in the back waiting for tanks to come in, in fact so many tanks were coming in people were just leaving them for people to grab, and watching the show. there were no ground people nobody was bothering to kill the aver's with infantry. end score of the game was 72 -0 for the tankers. it was a ******* joke, i'd pop my hardeners on and roll through the swarms with a laugh, i'd rail any forge guns from far away, they couldn't call in any vehicles since we had ours out first.
xSynnx x Requiem of Shadows DEADSPACE SOCIETY 13	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:36:00 - [110] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: KingBabar wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: so you want a tank driver to show you how easy it is to do the role of AV. can't AV just learn to get better? i really don't understand. Well yes to the first, but only because they come here and claim it is so easy to kill tanks, its no problem for them doing it in basic gear with little to no infantry skills. Did you read the thread I linked? Claims like these pisses me off cause they're lying, and if they're not lying and everybody else simply suck, what would be better than to get "vid proof" posted by a non tanker on these forums? I will confirm their BS claim is true. And in the right sort of way, I can record a string of games getting the full picture of it, not some edited BS from someone having the occational tank kill..... And please elaborate, how can AV-ers learn to get better? really i kill tanks all the time and you want to know how. i speced into it. (AV) along with tanks. and yes i read it. REs and porxies work. Forge gun work and ambushes with multiple light AV work. Now tanks with constant hardeners require porcy traps with forges to hit after words or other light AV. Forge guns kill tanks in 3-4 shots no hards on which most do not have on all the time. Other light AV it is almost required to have more than one or else it doesn't do enough damage. IMO swarms do need a slight buff. along with the plasma cannon, but not so much as to make the forge seem pointless. as it is supposed to be heavy AV. AKA the strongest AV. but this game has still yet to add any webifiers or other equipment to **** off tankers yet. I think part of the issue here is that you have to spec into AV but you dont have to spec into tanks to achieve the same thing.

KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1587	Posted - 2014.01.04 00:23:00 - [111] - Quote @ ES 1. I acknowleged it, I didn't ignore it, I even sympatise. 2. Perhaps you do, I still see lots of tankers doing great without it. 3. ??? Not sure what you actually mean to say here, but my English is not that good, can you elaborate? 4. OK... 5. OK... 7. So the most powerful AV weapon beats it bach eh? 8. Then why won't you show me? 9. Right, how many AVers per tank averagely? 10. Granted, still looks silly, but you have to be outside of a tank to see it.... 11. Useful, but hard to impossible to use vs a skilled tanker 12. I don't spam nades, if you knew me you wouldn't make that claim. Cal Logi might have been FOTM way back in the days when I even didn't know what FOTM was. After the resent armor buff, the shield nerf and indeed the Cal Logi suit nerf its definately the weakest Logi suit currently. Seriously, a +5% per level to efficiency of regulators? Compared to hacking speed, armor reps and equipment PG/CPU saving? Its a versatile but pretty weak suit compared to the others. I never commentented about AV nades. 13. OK 14. I'll take your word for it. 15. Like all Dust players are mostly bad? I couldn't agree more. 16. I said I'm ok with whatever game mode you want, come on, read through the thread. Its just that the biggest challenge here lies in ambush and considering how "easy" it is, you really shouldn't have any problem. Lets do it simple: You'll agree that AV play is "challanging", not "easy" or man up and face my challenge, in Ambush (you just lost your other game mode privelege due to being a git) or you'll stay out of this thread, I'm done with all your "avoidance 514". Be know as the dude that "talks the talk but are too scared to walk the walk". And please do bring some laim avoidance as always, vaguely insulting and containing "LOL" in any form. I dare you. I f@cking double dare you! (Damn, Forum QQ > actually playing. Its a shame... ) http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html


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