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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
3979
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:55:00 -
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Real modes are rush and capture the flag.
Tdm and Dom are ****. However Tdm is more of a solo mode.
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
668
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:57:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:1. Join Our "Rainbow Office" chat channel. 2. Contact me and we'll Group up. 3. We'll play some EU ambush until we come up against a decent set of tank spammers. 4. Do Your "Easy AV" play you claim you can do. 5. I'll record it all and we'll deflate this myth that the only true effective Counter to tanks is more tanks. Talk is cheap guys.... Edit: Its posts like this from experienced tankers like Jason Pearson and EnglishSnake AKA Takashiro something from Red Star that really shows some of these guys' true colours. They talk the talk but will they walk the walk? I doubt it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=132574
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
2386
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:29:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:
You need to have a min 3.5 KDR, 20 M + SP, a dedicated role and be at least slightly gay!
No wonder you have less than 20 active players if you are so elitist!
20 M? Seriously? You're giving up a lot of fresh talents. PC active top corporations have people with much less than 20 M or so said good KDR.
I'm absolutely shocked at those requirements. The only understandable one is to be a bit gay.
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1513
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:31:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:KingBabar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:lolambush
Sorry i only play real modes Ok, lets do it in whatever game mode you like best. Are you free tonight? And LOL at "real modes", a bunch of morons running around in circles hacking and moving on is not any sort of proper game mode IMO. What where as whoever using FOTM fit with a modded controller in ambush is the real mans game right? lolno How would we do this? am i soloing these tanks or doing it in a group? are you even helping or just watching? Whats the plan?
Well you said it was easy, I simply want you to show me, I must clearly be doing it wrong. The form of it is not that important IMO.
- No forge roof camping. - I would prefer ambush cause there's where the truly tough games are, I mean, 6 enemy tanks and no place to hide very ofthen.We can do it in other modes too, not that important. - I will observe, you said it was easy so why do you need a group?Or my help? If you bring in 1 friend you can go 2 vs1 against the tanks, fair enough?
And I really hope that FOTM fit and Modded controller comment was directed at someone else, That couldn't be me you're talking about unless you're seriously deluded.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2007
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:32:00 -
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the team that gets their tanks into ambush first will win the match regardless whatever you do. Cause once one side has the map controll with 6 tanks you cant call in a vehicle simply due to the fact that at least 1 tank will see it and blow it up while its still hanging on the bolas. AV doesnt work cause shield tanks are indestructible while they have a shield hardener running. And when they got 3 hardeners its just pointless cause they can run a hardener the whole time non stop.
In my opinion AV needs to be buffed back to its former state. This means more swarm launcher damage, more forgegun damage with less charge up time and higher AV grenade damage.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2092
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:42:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:KingBabar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:lolambush
Sorry i only play real modes Ok, lets do it in whatever game mode you like best. Are you free tonight? And LOL at "real modes", a bunch of morons running around in circles hacking and moving on is not any sort of proper game mode IMO. What where as whoever using FOTM fit with a modded controller in ambush is the real mans game right? lolno How would we do this? am i soloing these tanks or doing it in a group? are you even helping or just watching? Whats the plan? Well you said it was easy, I simply want you to show me, I must clearly be doing it wrong. The form of it is not that important IMO. - No forge roof camping. - I would prefer ambush cause there's where the truly tough games are, I mean, 6 enemy tanks and no place to hide very ofthen.We can do it in other modes too, not that important. - I will observe, you said it was easy so why do you need a group?Or my help? If you bring in 1 friend you can go 2 vs1 against the tanks, fair enough? And I really hope that FOTM fit and Modded controller comment was directed at someone else, That couldn't be me you're talking about unless you're seriously deluded.
No FG camping lol
Ambush hard lol thats because an AR doesnt kill a tank amiright? but frankly no ambush is very meh and tanks are in all modes anyways
Why do i need a group? let see because its always easier to take something down in a group, thats called teamwork, a rare concept to AV users and one concept i use weather im in a tank or not
Intelligence is OP
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1513
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:43:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:KingBabar wrote:
You need to have a min 3.5 KDR, 20 M + SP, a dedicated role and be at least slightly gay!
No wonder you have less than 20 active players if you are so elitist! 20 M? Seriously? You're giving up a lot of fresh talents. PC active top corporations have people with much less than 20 M or so said good KDR. I'm absolutely shocked at those requirements. The only understandable one is to be a bit gay.
If this corp was truly intended for owning districts in PC I would agree with you. This is however a merc corp. And with 2 exceptions (1 super logi and 1 AV specialist) we're all experienced players with good gear and good to great gungame.
If people are to keep paying us 5 M per merc per battle +bonus I'd like to keep it so that our customers come again and again, filling the corp with "potentials" or "good enough" people, could lead to poor performance and us loosing business because of that.
I also have to actually like and know the dudes in my corp, see what happened to SI who recruited way too fast.
Dust is by far the easiest FPS game to do well in, by a mile. Even a semi blind scrub like me gets a moronic KDR....
A 2 KDR is a great score in any game, but not in Dust.
Besides, if you're paying good isk for a squad to help you out, wouldn't you want some sort of set standard? I mean, we all have our bad games but its not like a player with said recuirements are bad in general...
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1513
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:49:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:KingBabar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:KingBabar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:lolambush
Sorry i only play real modes Ok, lets do it in whatever game mode you like best. Are you free tonight? And LOL at "real modes", a bunch of morons running around in circles hacking and moving on is not any sort of proper game mode IMO. What where as whoever using FOTM fit with a modded controller in ambush is the real mans game right? lolno How would we do this? am i soloing these tanks or doing it in a group? are you even helping or just watching? Whats the plan? Well you said it was easy, I simply want you to show me, I must clearly be doing it wrong. The form of it is not that important IMO. - No forge roof camping. - I would prefer ambush cause there's where the truly tough games are, I mean, 6 enemy tanks and no place to hide very ofthen.We can do it in other modes too, not that important. - I will observe, you said it was easy so why do you need a group?Or my help? If you bring in 1 friend you can go 2 vs1 against the tanks, fair enough? And I really hope that FOTM fit and Modded controller comment was directed at someone else, That couldn't be me you're talking about unless you're seriously deluded. No FG camping lol Ambush hard lol thats because an AR doesnt kill a tank amiright? but frankly no ambush is very meh and tanks are in all modes anyways Why do i need a group? let see because its always easier to take something down in a group, thats called teamwork, a rare concept to AV users and one concept i use weather im in a tank or not
You go Av in ambush against a tank rain and lets see how hard it is....
I'm signing into dust right now. How many people do you need to demonstrate how easy AV play is? 5 would be max since I'm there too....
I'll be in "Rainbow anything" in 5 minutes, and I must say:
I'm impressed that you wanna take this challenge, didn't think that would happen....
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2092
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:50:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:
You go Av in ambush against a tank rain and lets see how hard it is....
I'm signing into dust right now. How many people do you need to demonstrate how easy AV play is? 5 would be max since I'm there too....
I'll be in "Rainbow anything" in 5 minutes, and I must say:
I'm impressed that you wanna take this challenge, didn't think that would happen....
You keep saying ambush
I dont do ambush i do proper modes
Intelligence is OP
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
2387
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:52:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:
If this corp was truly intended for owning districts in PC I would agree with you. This is however a merc corp. And with 2 exceptions (1 super logi and 1 AV specialist) we're all experienced players with good gear and good to great gungame.
If people are to keep paying us 5 M per merc per battle +bonus I'd like to keep it so that our customers come again and again, filling the corp with "potentials" or "good enough" people, could lead to poor performance and us loosing business because of that.
I also have to actually like and know the dudes in my corp, see what happened to SI who recruited way too fast.
Dust is by far the easiest FPS game to do well in, by a mile. Even a semi blind scrub like me gets a moronic KDR....
A 2 KDR is a great score in any game, but not in Dust.
Besides, if you're paying good isk for a squad to help you out, wouldn't you want some sort of set standard? I mean, we all have our bad games but its not like a player with said recuirements are bad in general...
Mmmh, so a group of very solid PC ringers? Ok, that makes sense.
And I perfectly agree about the "you have to know the people", but stats are not a guarantee, in these terms.
Anyway, I'm sure you know that there are awesome players with great gun game and less than 20 M. Would you really reject their applications?
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
3186
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:58:00 -
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Why not in something tactical like domination or skirmish, it's better to set up traps and stuff. I do admit that tanks in lolambush is a massive problem but it isn't nearly as bad in the other gamemodes.
Lack of content makes stuff broken...
Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1513
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Posted - 2013.12.30 15:01:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:KingBabar wrote:
You go Av in ambush against a tank rain and lets see how hard it is....
I'm signing into dust right now. How many people do you need to demonstrate how easy AV play is? 5 would be max since I'm there too....
I'll be in "Rainbow anything" in 5 minutes, and I must say:
I'm impressed that you wanna take this challenge, didn't think that would happen....
You keep saying ambush I dont do ambush i do proper modes OK then no ambush. I understand.
Its just way harder in ambush thats all.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1513
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Posted - 2013.12.30 15:04:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:KingBabar wrote:
If this corp was truly intended for owning districts in PC I would agree with you. This is however a merc corp. And with 2 exceptions (1 super logi and 1 AV specialist) we're all experienced players with good gear and good to great gungame.
If people are to keep paying us 5 M per merc per battle +bonus I'd like to keep it so that our customers come again and again, filling the corp with "potentials" or "good enough" people, could lead to poor performance and us loosing business because of that.
I also have to actually like and know the dudes in my corp, see what happened to SI who recruited way too fast.
Dust is by far the easiest FPS game to do well in, by a mile. Even a semi blind scrub like me gets a moronic KDR....
A 2 KDR is a great score in any game, but not in Dust.
Besides, if you're paying good isk for a squad to help you out, wouldn't you want some sort of set standard? I mean, we all have our bad games but its not like a player with said recuirements are bad in general...
Mmmh, so a group of very solid PC ringers? Ok, that makes sense. And I perfectly agree about the "you have to know the people", but stats are not a guarantee, in these terms. Anyway, I'm sure you know that there are awesome players with great gun game and less than 20 M. Would you really reject their applications?
No, that was a typo, its officially 15 M SP, but none of these numbers are set in stone, we have guys with lesser stats but they've gotten in after impressing me or others over several games.
Hit me up if you wanna do some games...
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
2388
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Posted - 2013.12.30 15:19:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:
No, that was a typo, its officially 15 M SP, but none of these numbers are set in stone, we have guys with lesser stats but they've gotten in after impressing me or others over several games.
Hit me up if you wanna do some games...
I will.
Is "Rainbow Office" your public chat?
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1516
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Posted - 2013.12.30 15:20:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:KingBabar wrote:
No, that was a typo, its officially 15 M SP, but none of these numbers are set in stone, we have guys with lesser stats but they've gotten in after impressing me or others over several games.
Hit me up if you wanna do some games...
I will. Is "Rainbow Office" your public chat?
Yes
Edit:
Scacci tells me you're Italian and very good, both of which will be very appreciated!
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
2388
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Posted - 2013.12.30 16:06:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:KingBabar wrote:
No, that was a typo, its officially 15 M SP, but none of these numbers are set in stone, we have guys with lesser stats but they've gotten in after impressing me or others over several games.
Hit me up if you wanna do some games...
I will. Is "Rainbow Office" your public chat? Yes Edit: Scacci tells me you're Italian and very good, both of which will be very appreciated!
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2009
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:09:00 -
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The tankers who say "i dont play ambush, i play proper modes" are blatantly aware that tanks are inbalanced at the moment thats why they avoid that mode cause you cant avoid the tanks. On skirmish you can sit in the redline with a safe spawn. Ambush is like hardcore mode on dust. Its either you win stright from the begining or get demolished hard.
And go ahead try to kill a redline railgun tank with swarms/forgegun. I highly doubt it that you will have any sucess at all. Redline= easy mode/save haven.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2467
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:19:00 -
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Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks.
Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills.
Proud member of the Commndo 6
<3 Commando AK.0
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
959
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:25:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:1. Join Our "Rainbow Office" chat channel. 2. Contact me and we'll Group up. 3. We'll play some EU ambush until we come up against a decent set of tank spammers. 4. Do Your "Easy AV" play you claim you can do. 5. I'll record it all and we'll deflate this myth that the only true effective Counter to tanks is more tanks. Talk is cheap guys.... Edit: Its posts like this from experienced tankers like Jason Pearson and EnglishSnake AKA Takashiro something from Red Star that really shows some of these guys' true colours. They talk the talk but will they walk the walk? I doubt it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=132574
Huh? I don't think I'm following who's side you are on or what you are trying to prove. This post is ambiguous.
Whatever though. Just play the d*mn game ppl. Jeez.
Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn!
BURN DUST 2014
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
1840
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:13:00 -
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Wallaby1 wrote:just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so *OP* that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle I'm sorry that your crappy tanks with crappy fits all got popped. I pop most rail tanks with ease in my Soma, provided they don't get me from behind or stay in the red line, both of which are unlikely in Ambush. If 1 RG and 1 FG can take out 7 Somas, your team sucks, because I usually have that on my one Soma, especially if you count rail Sicas. My last Nyain San match had a hell of a lot of enemy rail tanks dropping everyone against our blaster Somas and rail Sicas and we still won by a good margin. Most teams don't even have that many pilots.
Coordinated AV can definitely drop my Soma; I still think it takes far more coordination when it takes a whole squad. My Gunnlogi? No. It's pretty much impossible to kill without tank support unless you nuke it with several synched FG shots and explosives. I don't think I've ever died in my Gunnlogi to a FG or Swarms with my hardener running without either the full enemy team firing at me all at once or me being pelted by other tanks and installations at the same time. It only costs 160k; really breaking the bank. I die all the time, but rarely because of infantry.
As for "deploy other tanks," this is because most tanks are crappy militia tanks and poorly fit standard tanks that are easily popped by anything that this works. When you pull out 7 tanks the enemy either needs better tanks, you to be a moron consistently or them to have high level rail tanks. There's not a Bob on every enemy team with 3 amps and an accelerator, I'm sorry.
As a role, tanks are OP. If tanks were a form of infantry, everyone would agree. As cheap as suits, 100 times stronger and faster. The only negative is that they are big and easy to hit, like a Heavy on drugs. The match should not be decided by how many of your teammates chose tanking as their role. Are matches decided by how many Scouts the enemy has? Does the enemy need as many Scouts as you do and if you have 6 Scouts you win 95% of matches?
Fire of Prometheus wrote:Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks.
Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. This. If I die to AV with hardeners up and I'm not engaged in TvT, it's because a LAV just rammed REs into my rear.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
150
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:21:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks.
Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills.
I hit a gunnlogi with an LAV with 6 REs on the nose, no kill.
So I went back in again, this time with 9 REs on the nose, still no kill.
Maybe it was just a glitch?
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1705
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:22:00 -
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EnglishSnake, my god i have not seen that name in years...
Amarr!
Try EVE Online
Buying Deamon Shotgun
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
1841
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:26:00 -
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Lv2spd2 wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks.
Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. I hit a gunnlogi with an LAV with 6 REs on the nose, no kill. So I went back in again, this time with 9 REs on the nose, still no kill. Maybe it was just a glitch? If his hardners were running it wasn't showing up on my screen. If his hardeners were down, he should've died for sure. Hell, with 9 REs you can OHKO an unextended Gunnlogi through a hardener; I have lost several like this at full health while cycling.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
73
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:31:00 -
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can I come along!
imagine the s#!t you can kill from a throne.... fu@#!n Rome.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
946
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:44:00 -
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Borne Velvalor wrote:Wallaby1 wrote:just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so *OP* that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle I'm sorry that your crappy tanks with crappy fits all got popped. I pop most rail tanks with ease in my Soma, provided they don't get me from behind or stay in the red line, both of which are unlikely in Ambush. If 1 RG and 1 FG can take out 7 Somas, your team sucks, because I usually have that on my one Soma, especially if you count rail Sicas. My last Nyain San match had a hell of a lot of enemy rail tanks dropping everyone against our blaster Somas and rail Sicas and we still won by a good margin. Most teams don't even have that many pilots. Coordinated AV can definitely drop my Soma; I still think it takes far more coordination when it takes a whole squad. My Gunnlogi? No. It's pretty much impossible to kill without tank support unless you nuke it with several synched FG shots and explosives. I don't think I've ever died in my Gunnlogi to a FG or Swarms with my hardener running without either the full enemy team firing at me all at once or me being pelted by other tanks and installations at the same time. It only costs 160k; really breaking the bank. I die all the time, but rarely because of infantry. As for "deploy other tanks," this is because most tanks are crappy militia tanks and poorly fit standard tanks that are easily popped by anything that this works. When you pull out 7 tanks the enemy either needs better tanks, you to be a moron consistently or them to have high level rail tanks. There's not a Bob on every enemy team with 3 amps and an accelerator, I'm sorry. As a role, tanks are OP. If tanks were a form of infantry, everyone would agree. As cheap as suits, 100 times stronger and faster. The only negative is that they are big and easy to hit, like a Heavy on drugs. The match should not be decided by how many of your teammates chose tanking as their role. Are matches decided by how many Scouts the enemy has? Does the enemy need as many Scouts as you do and if you have 6 Scouts you win 95% of matches? Fire of Prometheus wrote:Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks.
Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. This. If I die to AV with hardeners up and I'm not engaged in TvT, it's because a LAV just rammed REs into my rear.
I got insta-ed through my hardeners by forges once . That was scary.
PRO tanker and proud.
Lentarr Legionary.
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ratamaq doc
Edge Regiment
326
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:44:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:KingBabar wrote:
You go Av in ambush against a tank rain and lets see how hard it is....
I'm signing into dust right now. How many people do you need to demonstrate how easy AV play is? 5 would be max since I'm there too....
I'll be in "Rainbow anything" in 5 minutes, and I must say:
I'm impressed that you wanna take this challenge, didn't think that would happen....
You keep saying ambush I dont do ambush i do proper modes OK then no ambush. I understand. Its just way harder in ambush thats all.
NO! don't back down, I want to see this in Ambush. Spawn AV from the beginning, survive the infantry also. Lets see how easy it is to be a pure AV vs tanks and infantry if it is as easy as tankers say. Tell you what, I'll join as a pure AV and PVR second view to help your cause. Lets see if the tankers AV do better than me. I can come in proto.
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
1843
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:48:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Borne Velvalor wrote:Wallaby1 wrote:just played an ambush in which my team spammed the **** outta blaster tanks and were in no time at all thrashed by 1 railgun and 1 assault forgegunner, joining in on the fun i called in a mlt blaster tank and was then blown to hell in about 1 minute from 2 guys throwing AV nades and swarms , sooooooooo i guess it was because tanks are so *OP* that my team lost? seriously you people need to stop the crying just because your not slaying everything with a assault rifle I'm sorry that your crappy tanks with crappy fits all got popped. I pop most rail tanks with ease in my Soma, provided they don't get me from behind or stay in the red line, both of which are unlikely in Ambush. If 1 RG and 1 FG can take out 7 Somas, your team sucks, because I usually have that on my one Soma, especially if you count rail Sicas. My last Nyain San match had a hell of a lot of enemy rail tanks dropping everyone against our blaster Somas and rail Sicas and we still won by a good margin. Most teams don't even have that many pilots. Coordinated AV can definitely drop my Soma; I still think it takes far more coordination when it takes a whole squad. My Gunnlogi? No. It's pretty much impossible to kill without tank support unless you nuke it with several synched FG shots and explosives. I don't think I've ever died in my Gunnlogi to a FG or Swarms with my hardener running without either the full enemy team firing at me all at once or me being pelted by other tanks and installations at the same time. It only costs 160k; really breaking the bank. I die all the time, but rarely because of infantry. As for "deploy other tanks," this is because most tanks are crappy militia tanks and poorly fit standard tanks that are easily popped by anything that this works. When you pull out 7 tanks the enemy either needs better tanks, you to be a moron consistently or them to have high level rail tanks. There's not a Bob on every enemy team with 3 amps and an accelerator, I'm sorry. As a role, tanks are OP. If tanks were a form of infantry, everyone would agree. As cheap as suits, 100 times stronger and faster. The only negative is that they are big and easy to hit, like a Heavy on drugs. The match should not be decided by how many of your teammates chose tanking as their role. Are matches decided by how many Scouts the enemy has? Does the enemy need as many Scouts as you do and if you have 6 Scouts you win 95% of matches? Fire of Prometheus wrote:Real men use jeeps with a light sprinkling if REs on the front to eliminate tanks.
Only way to guarantee a 100% death rate of a tank. 1 shot. 1-3 kills. This. If I die to AV with hardeners up and I'm not engaged in TvT, it's because a LAV just rammed REs into my rear. I got insta-ed through my hardeners by forges once . That was scary. Synched Forges are about the only tactic that reliably pops a decent pilot. 3 proto modded FGs all hitting a single hardened Gunnlogi can't even drop the shields, though. At this point I stack my hardeners and try to wipe them off the map. It's not a reliable enough AV tactic in publics unless you purposefully make a full Forge Gun AV squad, though.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:51:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote: NO! don't back down, I want to see this in Ambush. Spawn AV from the beginning, survive the infantry also. Lets see how easy it is to be a pure AV vs tanks and infantry if it is as easy as tankers say. Tell you what, I'll join as a pure AV and PVR second view to help your cause. Lets see if the tankers AV do better than me. I can come in proto.
Oh god yes. I want to come along for the ride.
Make them do it in ALL 3 Gamemodes (Ambush, Skirmish, and Domination).
And make them use Swarm Launchers and Plasma Cannons.
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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.31 15:04:00 -
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So, how did it go? |
Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.12.31 15:12:00 -
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You know full well you wouldn't catch me in a squad with any Rainbow Effect players, sorry, I have standards :P
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