Oh look, another thread made by people unwilling to use profile dampeners.

I've requested a few of these changes including the drop off based on range and some fix to the spin scanning. My idea to reduce the spinning was to make it less accurate the more it was rotated.

Cooldown time needs a major increase. Allowing people to spam the scanner is the most glaring flaw of the scanner. Only making a few suits truly effective with it does not address this issue, just limits the pool of people who can abuse it.

No, not really. Go look up the history of submarine warfare and the use of sonar.

Plays fully into the risk vs reward or creating risk for a reward.

I disagree the longer cooldown is countered by just more bodies equipped with it.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Hey WW1 started with hand waving to the other pilot as you flew over the battlefield.

Ended with people getting shot down.

So this buff to passive scan range how much do you want it to be? Scouts already had 20 meters for a bit but they reduced it to 15.

Monkey, the scanner's main positive is it's ridiculous range and ease of use for practical wallhack.

In order for a passive scanner suit to work, you need:
2-3 range amps (Depending on if you're a scout)
2-3 precision enhancers (ditto)

OR

One equipment that does it all.

1 module slot keeps you off 2 of 3 scanners. pretty easy isnt it? scanners are fine

NOPE.

You do realize that my Minmatar scout only has 2 low slots right?

I want to passively resist proto scanners in my Proto scout suit please. I give up CPU/PG and slots to get a passive dampening, yet scanners still have the upper hand.

Heres what Ive told Kane:

Scanners provide a snapshot. Essentially they tell you where someone was at the moment they were scanned. 360 degree scans will still be possible, but itll no longer be possible to track someone through walls. The scan will only show a dot on the radar, and not indicate direction of travel. Instead of chevrons for a scanned redberry, a small scanner icon will appear instead indicating someone was scanned at this spot.

On the grounds of no new content I purpose these changes.

1. Active Scanners will rely on suit or vehicle own natural sensors to find targets. Better the natural sensors the better it can find things. Lights having the best while heavies the worst. Vehicles are in a similar position with LAVs having the best with HAVs having the worst. Both strength and Range are accounted for. This is to encourage roles of suits and vehicles, scouts becoming scoutier and commandos not able to role stomp on them anymore.

1a. Fitting Suit Range Amplifiers and Suit Sensor Resolution Modules will also enhance active scanner functions. Vehicles are currently lacking the modules and slots to support this at the moment and if added should be a multipurpose module instead of individuals as they are on the dropsuit.

2. Active scanning player or vehicle will be revealed to the entire hostile team at 2x the range than he can detect at as though he himself had been scanned. This is the drawback of using the scanner and cannot be defeated completely without new content (active dampener) This increases interplay and make the game more interesting for those getting scanned and those doing the scanning.

3. Active scanners drop in strength over distance, it is possible to create variants that have sweet spots (long range but nearsighted) or work around this concept.

4. Active scanners activate instantly instead of scanning for 5 seconds. This will prevent 360 scans or sweeping scans. To compensate the scanner cooldown could be toned to allow quicker rescans or new variants brought in that are shorter ranged.

5. Lower the signature radius of the suit the shorter they remain 'pinged' this does combine with items 2 and 3 so scouts and recons who are scanning are not shown for up as long but also scans made by scouts and lights will last much longer than the commando. This is also impart of role fitting as well as making bigger not so much better as larger electronically sized targets will be detrimental.

NOTE:
By no means is this supposed to be a NERF, a pox upon your ignorance for thinking otherwise.

These are all terrible ideas. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Scanner is broke as ffff. I use it all the time.

Changing the active scanner's precision/scan radius to be based on the suit's precision/radius is a bad idea. This is due to the disparity in the values obtainable through modules/skills across the different suit types.

A scanner that is marginally useful on suits without precision/range skills/modules would be super OP on suits that are fully proto in precision/range and stacked with the corresponding proto mods.

Conversely, a scanner that would be equivalent to the present scanners in the hands of a fully precision/range modded suit would be utterly useless on an unmodded suit.

Right now, scanning/dampening has a good balance. Scouts can dodge all but one scanner with minimal effort (202k SP and 1 module costing 15 or 18 CPU). Mediums can dodge all but one scanner with moderate effort (932k SP and 2 modules costing 66 CPU). The one scanner that scans them all is a piece of crap (costs 18 PG, has a 5 second scan time and 5 second paint time, and you must wait 33 seconds between consecutive scans, so you only have data for 30% of the game). If this scanner was OP then you'd run into it a whole lot more, yet I nearly never see it in game. It might as well not even exist, and I for one would support its removal if only to stop QQ.

As Ryme said, if it ain't broke...

It's broke.

We have 69 suits and under a full line up permise 84 . Based on the current slot assignment so far provided by existing suits even at 82 suits only 1 Suit would be capable of beating the scanner. Of the 84 suits at minimal 68 of them can fit the scanner. As of now this is the ONLY module with this type of clear cut disparity, every other module and equipment in the game can and has been defeated by every other suit and platform you can use it on.

Cloaking by all means MUST not be the sole counter but based on what I been hearing so far its not going to be because active scanners are the hard counter for cloaks not the other way around.

These changes would allow ANY suit to defeat an active scanner on the grounds the suit operator knows what the hell he's doing to avoid it. In turn the scan operator can beat any suit provided he knows what the hell he's doing.
Skills and module meta then becomes extra noise on the field and additional make things interesting once cloaks hit the field.

fix the suits then.