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Chesty Ranger SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 28	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:52:00 - [1] - Quote Factional warfare is being sabotage by having characters committing suicide continuous w/o any consequences.. Example in this video we see members of a corp named factional warfare army who did nothing but spawn on uplinks and suicide . This happen in the caldari side. In the rest of the video i join a fight and demonstrate how they do it. Hope this gets a easy fix. Thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhjKuQ3XPw&feature=youtu.be
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 606	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:27:00 - [2] - Quote ContraBanJoe. I could respect the fact that you at least tried before, but now you're just being a douchebag. And to the people he talked into doing this: Get out before your reputation is sullied more than it already is. As for a way to stop this, just make it so that too many suicides in a short amount of time gets you booted from FW for the day, the same as too much freindly fire. By the way, the Federal Marines are Gallente, not Caldari. Or did you mean that Caldari loyalists infiltrated the Gallente ranks? Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain
Pipsa Possu Rautaleijona Top Men. 15	Posted - 2013.12.17 08:34:00 - [3] - Quote How about not enabling the suicide option until the TACnet gives ultimatum for inactivity?
Darken Ages Stoned Kloned Killers 26	Posted - 2013.12.17 09:53:00 - [4] - Quote contrban joe was a cheat and garbage in PRO and look where that got them and so he forms another corp just to become more garbage. come on man only 4000 people play this game and you still have to cheat joe. man you need a life joe and quit whereingdresses on youtube we know you wished you could have a girl but dont act like one its gay
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2206	Posted - 2013.12.17 09:54:00 - [5] - Quote Oh the salty tears.... wheres my straw? Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Test Alliance Best Alliance Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 606	Posted - 2013.12.17 10:13:00 - [6] - Quote I'm not crying, I'm shaking my head in disgust and disappointment. Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1299	Posted - 2013.12.17 10:40:00 - [7] - Quote Chesty Ranger wrote: Factional warfare is being sabotage by having characters committing suicide continuous w/o any consequences.. Example in this video we see members of a corp named factional warfare army who did nothing but spawn on uplinks and suicide . This happen in the caldari side. In the rest of the video i join a fight and demonstrate how they do it. Hope this gets a easy fix. Thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhjKuQ3XPw&feature=youtu.be Nothing to be fixed here. Welcome to New Eden. I also doub't you can fix something like this. How should you be able to? Kick people because they suicide? Yeah. Any fix would probably backfire.
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 35	Posted - 2013.12.17 12:01:00 - [8] - Quote 5 consecutive suicides in under 5 minutes gets you the ban hammer
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1303	Posted - 2013.12.17 12:37:00 - [9] - Quote Spartan MK420 wrote: 5 consecutive suicides in under 5 minutes gets you the ban hammer And why's that? Griefing is part of New Eden. You probably also want ISK scammers to be banned. But it's part of the meta game. So deal with it, because this is what New Eden is about.
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 611	Posted - 2013.12.17 13:23:00 - [10] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: And why's that? Griefing is part of New Eden. You probably also want ISK scammers to be banned. But it's part of the meta game. So deal with it, because this is what New Eden is about. While I think griefing a crappy thing to do, I respect their right to do it. But it shouldn't be without consequences (and before you say bad KDR, consequences that matter). Scammers can be outed, PC griefers can be blacklisted, but all you can do to someone in FW is watch as they drain your clones. The five suicide limit suggested by Spartan would be fair; if someone really wants to do it they can, but they have to work harder. Scammers and PC griefers have to either create an alt or find new territory to work in, so why should other griefers be exempt? Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain

Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 268	Posted - 2013.12.17 13:30:00 - [11] - Quote I must admit, I totally forgot the suicide option even existed... I don't think I've ever used it. Under what conditions would this even be used? I guess maybe if you got stuck on some terrain in some unfortunate position and couldn't move anymore??
TITANIC Xangore Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 420	Posted - 2013.12.17 17:28:00 - [12] - Quote I need some caramel! with all these lovely salty tears it would be a great compliment!
Earl Crushinator Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 196	Posted - 2013.12.17 17:29:00 - [13] - Quote You can't control or restrict my right to self terminate my clone - it's my body, not yours and you don't get to decide what I get to do with it.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2172	Posted - 2013.12.17 17:29:00 - [14] - Quote Justicar Karnellia wrote: I must admit, I totally forgot the suicide option even existed... I don't think I've ever used it. Under what conditions would this even be used? I guess maybe if you got stuck on some terrain in some unfortunate position and couldn't move anymore?? Yep, if you get stuck in a hole in the map, it could be the only way out. This is a really tricky one for the devs. A kneejerk mechanics change could backfire in hilarious ways. Hail Satan
Ayures II Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 335	Posted - 2013.12.17 17:34:00 - [15] - Quote EMERGENT GAMEPLAY!
Vile Heathen Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 839	Posted - 2013.12.17 17:36:00 - [16] - Quote Though I do agree that griefing sucks, by having Joe exploit it as much as possible, it's getting a discussion going. CCP will now have to do something about it. From the times I've played with Joe, especially the closed beta corp matches, I would suggest he is a man of science, always trying to experiment and test the limits of Dust 514. Also, these tears are hilarious. Also also, griefing is hurting FW a lot less than the fact that 90% of corps are choosing the side of Gallente over Caldari and at least 99% are choosing Minmatar over Amarr, because you're all terrible role players. Try playing an Amarr contact solo and tell me griefing is ruining FW.
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 248	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:30:00 - [17] - Quote Justicar Karnellia wrote: I must admit, I totally forgot the suicide option even existed... I don't think I've ever used it. Under what conditions would this even be used? I guess maybe if you got stuck on some terrain in some unfortunate position and couldn't move anymore?? Yup exactly that. You get stuck and then suicide. Back during beta, the devs were hoping to use the x, y, z coordinates logged for every suicide as a clue into where the "stuck" traps of each map was at. Unfortunately for them most people would just nade themselves instead as that was a lot faster. Maybe they need to start paying attention to suicide stats again.
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 95	Posted - 2013.12.17 23:44:00 - [18] - Quote Draining clones 1 every 9-11 seconds. Don't worry bout it too much, the gallente and minmatar ALWAYS have stacked squads. maybe set it up so if you dont make WP in 3 matches you get a 'thanks but no thanks' from the faction. Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Disciple Of Kesha Dirt 'n' Glitter I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 25	Posted - 2013.12.18 00:35:00 - [19] - Quote Do you really blame my brothers in arms against the Gallente for turning to asymmetrical warfare methods? the ends justify the means, and the LP for the victors is just as real and the tears are just as sweet. Whine more, they love every second of it. Or, to be more blunt, can you show me an inalienable human right? I'd like to mount one on my wall - Yun Hee Ryeon
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1138	Posted - 2013.12.18 00:54:00 - [20] - Quote CCP will fix it, a full squad doing this can end the battle really quickly, it kinda sucks to have all you've done in a battle negated by this sort of stuff, just file petitions about it and don't bother with FW till its fixed.

T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 95	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:25:00 - [21] - Quote I stopped signing up for FW, it ridiculous. Suiciders, griefers, and newberries. Boring fight for gal/min. No front line on amar/cald. It's really a great battle system idea, just needs some serious work. Griefers, should be banned for a week from dust in general. For no other reason than it would be funny. Suiciders, well theres an easy fix for that, 3 suicides and should be banhammered. If you spawn a bad uplink don't spawn on it a second time, if you do then you don't belong on the battlefield. This is war people, not super mario, quit exploiting, it makes you pathetic. Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Disciple Of Kesha Dirt 'n' Glitter I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 25	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:31:00 - [22] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: quit exploiting, it makes you win. Or, to be more blunt, can you show me an inalienable human right? I'd like to mount one on my wall - Yun Hee Ryeon
Ku Shala Exiled Veteran Elite 704	Posted - 2013.12.18 20:06:00 - [23] - Quote Spys are a fair tactic? simple fix for the haters self inflicted damage should count as FF First General of Exiled Veteran Elite Loyalty Is not always rewarded Caldari Loyalist
Disciple Of Kesha Dirt 'n' Glitter I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 27	Posted - 2013.12.19 00:43:00 - [24] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: Spys are a fair tactic? simple fix for the haters self inflicted damage should count as FF What people call terrorism or unfair tactics are rather effective, therefore rendering it acceptable. expect it to happen until those in charge of merc deployments find a way to stop it. Or, to be more blunt, can you show me an inalienable human right? I'd like to mount one on my wall - Yun Hee Ryeon
Mithridates VI 2227	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:11:00 - [25] - Quote Disciple Of Kesha wrote: Ku Shala wrote: Spys are a fair tactic? simple fix for the haters self inflicted damage should count as FF What people call terrorism or unfair tactics are rather effective, therefore rendering it acceptable. expect it to happen until those in charge of merc deployments find a way to stop it. EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN UNTIL SOMEONE STOPS IT FROM HAPPENING. >What, you think the forums are for trash talk and being mean? >NO! This is a SRS PLACE for SRS DISCUSSION GÇö Patrick57
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 714	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:50:00 - [26] - Quote Pipsa Possu wrote: How about not enabling the suicide option until the TACnet gives ultimatum for inactivity? That's just a bad idea which will leave a lot of legitimate players unable to play games because they get stuck in the terrain, but 'well' placed uplinks. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 714	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:01:00 - [27] - Quote Chesty Ranger wrote: Factional warfare is being sabotage by having characters committing suicide continuous w/o any consequences.. Example in this video we see members of a corp named factional warfare army who did nothing but spawn on uplinks and suicide . This happen in the caldari side. In the rest of the video i join a fight and demonstrate how they do it. Hope this gets a easy fix. Thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhjKuQ3XPw&feature=youtu.be As a suicide awoxer myself, I'm glad people are catching on to the power of this tactic. However, I would strongly recommend CCP approach this situation with care. Rather than kicking players from player there are other methods to tackling this 'issue.' I would suggest that all mercs be given a security status based on their persistent battle record. Frequent deaths (past 5 per match, recognized as suicides and clone 'died' messages), afk kicks, team kills, team damage generated, and outright FW bans would all be data points noted in one's mercenary battle file (yes, we hear that message given by the announcer, but is done). These data points would contribute toward a security rating 1.0 through 0.0. Low security ratings would limit the frequency of faction battles a mercenary may play with the given four empires (due to the reduced number of lower-sec battle generated by CCPs systems). However, all parties could be satisfied if a pirate faction was introduced to support mercs with pirate gear (Sansha Nation, Blood Raiders, Various Deadspace Groups) for those that choose to fight dirty and play in low-sec, or eventually null-sec battles. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Disciple Of Kesha Dirt 'n' Glitter I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 27	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:09:00 - [28] - Quote Disciple Of Kesha wrote: Ku Shala wrote: Spys are a fair tactic? simple fix for the haters self inflicted damage should count as FF What people call terrorism or unfair tactics are rather effective, therefore rendering it acceptable. expect it to happen until those in charge of merc deployments find a way to stop it. All RP bundle of stick-etry aside, as a troll alt for someone who has been playing from deep into closed beta, it feels like my duty to break the game in such fantastic ways that ccp finds ways to plug the gaps. so yeah, I'll find ways from profiting from these exploits while I'm at it. Or, to be more blunt, can you show me an inalienable human right? I'd like to mount one on my wall - Yun Hee Ryeon
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 624	Posted - 2013.12.19 10:10:00 - [29] - Quote Disciple Of Kesha wrote: Disciple Of Kesha wrote: Ku Shala wrote: Spys are a fair tactic? simple fix for the haters self inflicted damage should count as FF What people call terrorism or unfair tactics are rather effective, therefore rendering it acceptable. expect it to happen until those in charge of merc deployments find a way to stop it. All RP bundle of stick-etry aside, as a troll alt for someone who has been playing from deep into closed beta, it feels like my duty to break the game in such fantastic ways that ccp finds ways to plug the gaps. so yeah, I'll find ways from profiting from these exploits while I'm at it. At least you admit it's an exploit. And to those who are arguing: yes it is an exploit. If a person is in charge of a corp, then an awoxer who repeatedly suicides would not be allowed back into corporate battles. The Faction Warfare corps, however, are run by computers, which have to follow specific instructions. These computers have been programmed to recognize excessive friendly fire as awoxing, but suicides do not seem to count as FF, so it's blind spot in the programming. Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 578	Posted - 2013.12.19 18:55:00 - [30] - Quote Timothy Reaper wrote: These computers have been programmed to recognize excessive friendly fire as awoxing, but suicides do not seem to count as FF, so it's blind spot in the programming. Very much agree here.

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 754	Posted - 2013.12.20 16:45:00 - [31] - Quote Vile Heathen wrote: Though I do agree that griefing sucks, by having Joe exploit it as much as possible, it's getting a discussion going. CCP will now have to do something about it. From the times I've played with Joe, especially the closed beta corp matches, I would suggest he is a man of science, always trying to experiment and test the limits of Dust 514. Also, these tears are hilarious. Also also, griefing is hurting FW a lot less than the fact that 90% of corps are choosing the side of Gallente over Caldari and at least 99% are choosing Minmatar over Amarr, because you're all terrible role players. Try playing an Amarr contact solo and tell me griefing is ruining FW. You must be trolling, because that's a ludicrous statement. One, good luck finding better RP on any side than the Amarr. Kirk for Gallente and a few SVER guys for minmatar and....? Two, griefing is EXACTLY what is killing FW. (Well that and the overly aggressive bans we had in the beginning). I'm skeptical that you have actually played an Amarr FW solo, because if you had, you would immediately reject any suggestion that griefing is not a problem. This isn't QQ, it's simple math: I'll be happy to provide pics if you don't believe me, but I've run probably 10 Amarr FW battles solo and not one time were there not at least 4 players with multiple deaths and 0 WP. In several matches there have been as many as 8 people with 0 WP. Mind you, this is not playing stacked AE squads that would explain losing badly. Don't bother with the "they're just scrubs" argument, because even at the height of protostomping in 1.5/1.6 you would only have 1, maybe 2 people with 0 WP, everyone would at least hack some meaningless turret or CRU to get a couple points. If the FW end of match board looked like a typical pubstomp with a bunch of people at the bottom going 2/12 with 150-200 WP I might buy the "well Amarr just sux, git gud" talk. But when battle after battle ends with 2 or 3 people at the top with a decent score, a few with the usual 2/12, 150 WP you would see at #15 in a pub, followed by a sudden dropoff with the entire bottom half of the team having 0 kills and 0 WP combined, something is going on. When even Cubs' OP death squad needs to qsync with another one to win consistently, something is definitely not right. You can't easily explain that away. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 754	Posted - 2013.12.20 16:49:00 - [32] - Quote I vote for a lifetime SP requirement for FW. Can't join unless you have x million lifetime. It won't stop dedicated griefers, which have their place in New Eden. What it does do is prevent people from making infinite numbers of alts just to grief without expending any real effort or incurring any risk. They don't even have to risk their KDR, as little as that might mean. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
abarkrishna WarRavens 218	Posted - 2013.12.21 10:06:00 - [33] - Quote They are doing it because caldari do not have a chance of winning any other way. Let them use their scrub tactics. Ill still win and get my LP No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 187	Posted - 2013.12.24 15:54:00 - [34] - Quote You know, as much as all the TEST-icles love to say its part of the game: why exactly would the side you're on allow you to keep depleting their clones? Someone up above would just say 'that guy is screwing us over, yank him from the battle'. And thats what they would do. You're fighting for a faction, not your own corp. RP wise, they have complete control over who is on the battlefield.
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 28	Posted - 2013.12.24 17:35:00 - [35] - Quote Suicide should be counted as FF, simply as that. 4 deaths and you're out. /problem If you're an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
WHATHE FU- BOOOOM Professional Griefers 0	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:03:00 - [36] - Quote But I thought L2 was sprint not my fault I died 40 times.
Vava BOOM Professional Griefers 0	Posted - 2013.12.25 06:35:00 - [37] - Quote WHATHE FU- BOOOOM wrote: But I thought L2 was sprint not my fault I died 40 times. You mean it isn't!? I could have sworn it was.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 914	Posted - 2013.12.25 09:18:00 - [38] - Quote WHATHE FU- BOOOOM wrote: But I thought L2 was sprint not my fault I died 40 times. I guess that my sprint speed was so fast that I simply ran into my own nova knives. I'm sorry. I'll request a bug support ticket on the matter. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jack Boost Zarena Family 293	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:33:00 - [39] - Quote Just add suicide - dmg as FF dmg. And all will be fixed.
GVGMODE 94	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:53:00 - [40] - Quote IP and MAC ban from faction warfare

Jaed D'jaegweir Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:00:00 - [41] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Chesty Ranger wrote: Factional warfare is being sabotage by having characters committing suicide continuous w/o any consequences.. Example in this video we see members of a corp named factional warfare army who did nothing but spawn on uplinks and suicide . This happen in the caldari side. In the rest of the video i join a fight and demonstrate how they do it. Hope this gets a easy fix. Thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhjKuQ3XPw&feature=youtu.be Nothing to be fixed here. Welcome to New Eden. I also doub't you can fix something like this. How should you be able to? Kick people because they suicide? Yeah. Any fix would probably backfire. the commit suicide could be remove to fix it. what purpose does it have? "We do not live in a world of reality. We live in a world of perceptions." -Gerald Simmons
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 225	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:45:00 - [42] - Quote Chesty Ranger wrote: Factional warfare is being sabotage by having characters committing suicide continuous w/o any consequences.. Example in this video we see members of a corp named factional warfare army who did nothing but spawn on uplinks and suicide . This happen in the caldari side. In the rest of the video i join a fight and demonstrate how they do it. Hope this gets a easy fix. Thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhjKuQ3XPw&feature=youtu.be Caldari people are fanatics. I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 708	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:28:00 - [43] - Quote Jaed D'jaegweir wrote: the commit suicide could be remove to fix it. what purpose does it have? You've never got stuck in the terrain, have you? Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3105	Posted - 2014.01.05 20:47:00 - [44] - Quote Timothy Reaper wrote: Jaed D'jaegweir wrote: the commit suicide could be remove to fix it. what purpose does it have? You've never got stuck in the terrain, have you? Yeah, if you check the map forums, there are still spots in maps where people get consistently stuck and it hasn't been fixed yet. Suicide or leaving the match are the only options there. As a side note, removing the suicide button wouldn't keep people from holding a grenade till it blows. On the subject of the OP though, I thought there was supposed to be a measure in FW to temporarily "ban" players with poor faction standing or people getting kicked for hurting the team from being able to play for a certain faction? Did that not make it into the final FW implementation? Join my cult.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 356	Posted - 2014.01.10 12:39:00 - [45] - Quote Griefing is part of New Eden. However, it should come at a cost. Griefing at no cost is no good. I don't support the removal of Starter Fits, though, so there needs to be another solution. Plus, just having 1 dropsuit BPO and 1 weapon BPO would make a no cost suicide fit as well. Alts for DUST 514 are infinite and free, so the security status idea, while it has it's merits for certain applications, won't help here. The only fix I can think of is a kick after so many suicides. That doesn't mean that's the perfect solution, but it's all I can think of at the moment. Griefing should be allowed, but griefing that has such a large effect shouldn't cost nothing but 5 minutes of someone's time. Bumping in EVE is relatively harmless, and as such costs nothing. Suicide ganking can be extremely harmful, and as such costs the griefer's ship, how little it may end up costsing (but the cost is usually spread out among multiple people if that's the case). "Clone griefing" can cost a whole team it, so it should at least be on par with the cost of a suicide smartbombing battleship (comparitively speaking). TL;DR - Griefing is good, free griefing is bad. Amarr HAV Speculation
Mountain Doody DUST University Ivy League 26	Posted - 2014.01.18 18:03:00 - [46] - Quote simple add a time delay to each suicide, so you can do it once instantly, then you must wait one minute for the second death, then two additional minutes till the third death...
TunRa NEW OMENS 378	Posted - 2014.01.18 23:53:00 - [47] - Quote This is NEW EDEN, sabotage is part of this universe just like AWOXING. HTFU! Thanks CCP Foxfour
TRUe MINMATAR power FACTION WARFARE ARMY 3	Posted - 2014.01.19 15:39:00 - [48] - Quote Trololololololololololololo! Haha I'm invincible! SNIPE Fuuuuuuuuu
Ephraim Ghanlai cobra connection Public Disorder. 8	Posted - 2014.01.23 06:27:00 - [49] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Chesty Ranger wrote: Factional warfare is being sabotage by having characters committing suicide continuous w/o any consequences.. Example in this video we see members of a corp named factional warfare army who did nothing but spawn on uplinks and suicide . This happen in the caldari side. In the rest of the video i join a fight and demonstrate how they do it. Hope this gets a easy fix. Thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhjKuQ3XPw&feature=youtu.be Nothing to be fixed here. Welcome to New Eden. I also doub't you can fix something like this. How should you be able to? Kick people because they suicide? Yeah. Any fix would probably backfire. Treat suicides just like friendly fire, but only half as bad. Sometimes some shidiot threw a link where it doesn't belong and you have to suicide to get out. I'd hate to see someone get kicked because they were put in a situation where they had to choose between being stuck in a box or suiciding to get back in the battle. Even if mass suiciders do get kicked, how long before these douches start chucking links under everything so YOU have to commit suicide in order to get back in the fight? I think we should compile a list of these sandbaggers for CCP to first give warning to and then delete. Or give us a collective kick function. If over half the team votes for a kick, say goodbye. President of the, Save-a-Heavy, movement. Leader of the, Anti-Vehicle Forces. Keeper of the, Forge Gun of Destiny.


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