DUST Search - Allow tank pilot to be on small turret.

Benjamin Ciscko wrote:

Rowdy Railgunner wrote:

Benjamin Ciscko wrote:

Rowdy Railgunner wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

Next you're going to want a passenger to man my Python's turret.

Where was this suggestion when AV was OP? You're just butthurt that you can't insta-pop vehicles anymore. Let CCP rebalance tanks and AV and stop with these outrageous ideas.

Actually our thought that came up for the dropships was to allow you to put all of the turrets on the same side. So you could have 3 turrets on one side for the ADS just blasting away at objectives. That would be awesome.

And FYI, I can instapop all HAVs and LAVs quite easily.

Lol you popping LAV's or HAV's I am quite sure you can not instapop mine and I can imagine you breaking your TV in the process how you state that you talked about this is bizarre it's not a discussion when only on person talks and the other screamed down.

I would instapop your HAV and you would sent me hate mail for doing it. I do not fight clean.

No one has ever successfully killed me with a jihad jeep people have tried even someone in corp that we qsynced against tried twice and failed twice.

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Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 270	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:19:00 - [1] - Quote Like the title. We were talking last night and they should allow the driver seat of the tank to be put on a small turret while a passenger gets to control the main turret. I think that would be an awesome addition to tanks.
Thumb Green Novashift 581	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:39:00 - [2] - Quote And make tankers use teamwork to be effective? No-no-no, tankers don't have time for teamwork; leave that sort of rubbish to the lowly infantry. Never mind the president, let's overgrow the government.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3282	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:41:00 - [3] - Quote I suggested this multiple times in the past, so I can say this from experience: Brace for a shitstorm, even though it makes complete sense. We used to have a time machine
Orion Vahid DUST University Ivy League 215	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:41:00 - [4] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: And make tankers use teamwork to be effective? No-no-no, tankers don't have time for teamwork; leave that sort of rubbish to the lowly infantry. LOL I died
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 275	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:45:00 - [5] - Quote I was thinking that the tank would be better at stomping with the gunner only gunning and the driver only driving. As it stands now you need to target your enemy and lots of times you can see where you are going because of needing the main gun pointed at your target. Well with an independent driver and gunner you would be 100% more effective at both aspects of tanking.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3282	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:47:00 - [6] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: I was thinking that the tank would be better at stomping with the gunner only gunning and the driver only driving. As it stands now you need to target your enemy and lots of times you can see where you are going because of needing the main gun pointed at your target. Well with an independent driver and gunner you would be 100% more effective at both aspects of tanking. But tankers will still oppose this until the end We used to have a time machine
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:47:00 - [7] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I suggested this multiple times in the past, so I can say this from experience: Brace for a shitstorm, even though it makes complete sense. message from Godin: I have to pay for it I have to build it I have to call it in I'm the only one risking ISK Bluedots can't be trusted to do anything right There's not enough good players to go around teams are too small Lore says that a custom merc HAV only requires one person to operate, and the rest is automated systems. Until all of these problems are solved, **** you, I refuse, never going to happen, no.
Jason Pearson 3475	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:48:00 - [8] - Quote No if Mandatory. However making it so it's an optional function, that I'd agree with. Like a Pilot having a Small and Large Turret on their tank, they get to select which turret is their main gun. :) King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5063	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:48:00 - [9] - Quote This idea is bad and you should feel bad. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:55:00 - [10] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: No if Mandatory. However making it so it's an optional function, that I'd agree with. Like a Pilot having a Small and Large Turret on their tank, they get to select which turret is their main gun. :) message from Godin: If someone wants to, that's their business. Fine by me

Saxbrin Shain Ivory Vanguard 111	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:57:00 - [11] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: I was thinking that the tank would be better at stomping with the gunner only gunning and the driver only driving. As it stands now you need to target your enemy and lots of times you can see where you are going because of needing the main gun pointed at your target. Well with an independent driver and gunner you would be 100% more effective at both aspects of tanking. It would also require 100% more manpower to be effective. Imagine a 3-man tank crew: A driver piloting the tank, activating modules, and operating a Small turret with a narrow range of motion. A main gunner, operating the Large turret. A Logi, operating a second Small turret with a 360-¦ range of motion, and hopping out to support the Tank or Infantry when necessary. That would be powerful, but it would also require 3 players devoted to a single vehicle. Personally, I don't think tanks should be as effective as they are without the support of at least a second crew member. A tank should be terrifying, but it shouldn't be a solo PWNmobile. IMMORTALS; From the Sands to the Stars We fight until we die. Then we fight some more.
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 263	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:58:00 - [12] - Quote +1 best solution to it should take more than 1 AV guy to kill a tank.
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 484	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:26:00 - [13] - Quote Next you're going to want a passenger to man my Python's turret. Where was this suggestion when AV was OP? You're just butthurt that you can't insta-pop vehicles anymore. Let CCP rebalance tanks and AV and stop with these outrageous ideas. Dropship Specialist Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Militia: 26; Tanks: 10
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3282	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:28:00 - [14] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I suggested this multiple times in the past, so I can say this from experience: Brace for a shitstorm, even though it makes complete sense. message from Godin: I have to pay for it I have to build it I have to call it in I'm the only one risking ISK Bluedots can't be trusted to do anything right There's not enough good players to go around teams are too small Lore says that a custom merc HAV only requires one person to operate, and the rest is automated systems. Until all of these problems are solved, **** you, I refuse, never going to happen, no. Guess what- all other vehicles have to deal with this, and they take a hell of a lot more practice than HAVs do. If you need someone to point and shoot, you have a corp. Btw, I have no reason to listen to someone with a forum ban, even if they're sharing an account. We used to have a time machine
Jason Pearson 3484	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:30:00 - [15] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Next you're going to want a passenger to man my Python's turret. Where was this suggestion when AV was OP? You're just butthurt that you can't insta-pop vehicles anymore. Let CCP rebalance tanks and AV and stop with these outrageous ideas. ^ Oh and, I keep seeing this suggestion followed by "Dropships are team vehicles, requiring separate gunners" but if you fly, you fly an ADS and use your own turret. So if this suggestion is implemented I demand ADS get's removed immediately. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1676	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:30:00 - [16] - Quote You know that we would have no blindspots right? We would be way more powerfull than we are right now. Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity. GÿåTank driverGÿå
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 264	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:31:00 - [17] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Next you're going to want a passenger to man my Python's turret. Where was this suggestion when AV was OP? You're just butthurt that you can't insta-pop vehicles anymore. Let CCP rebalance tanks and AV and stop with these outrageous ideas. The idea was stated a few timed dureing all stages of beta ive seen it pop up a few times but it usually gets lots due to lack of interest as people where too busy complaining about other things now on other hand tanks are the main sourse of complaints real ideas like above get more attention.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1676	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:33:00 - [18] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: No if Mandatory. However making it so it's an optional function, that I'd agree with. Like a Pilot having a Small and Large Turret on their tank, they get to select which turret is their main gun. :) This Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity. GÿåTank driverGÿå
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 281	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:34:00 - [19] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Next you're going to want a passenger to man my Python's turret. Where was this suggestion when AV was OP? You're just butthurt that you can't insta-pop vehicles anymore. Let CCP rebalance tanks and AV and stop with these outrageous ideas. Actually our thought that came up for the dropships was to allow you to put all of the turrets on the same side. So you could have 3 turrets on one side for the ADS just blasting away at objectives. That would be awesome.
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 264	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:36:00 - [20] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: You know that we would have no blindspots right? We would be way more powerfull than we are right now. Well that would be intensional if a take requires multiple people to operate it effectivly then its ballenced against it requiring multiple people to kill it effectivly for example a tank could require 3 av guys to kill it if it took 3 guys to run one effectivly the best way to do this is adding a commander seat who would have access to scanners and stuff and be the only person able to see by third person it would make tanks alot more powerfull but would also require more people to use effectivly. That is the ultamite problem with tanks right now it basicly gives one person the power of 2 as it take 2 to kill him this is simply a issue that needs fixing

Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 389	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:39:00 - [21] - Quote So I should invest 10 mil plus skill points that took months to obtain, hours of ISK grinding to be able to afford to tank and now only being able to drive said tank. You would have to squad with a person who knows what their doing so you can't squad with randoms and not everyone wants to gun for you so even in corp or alliance you will have to search for people. I have invested around 4 million into my main turret and 0 sp into small turrets so you want someone like yourself to benefit from our grinding doing no work yourself risking no assets because I am dropping it and then expect me to have little fun doing it. Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 282	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:41:00 - [22] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: So I should invest 10 mil plus skill points that took months to obtain, hours of ISK grinding to be able to afford to tank and now only being able to drive said tank. You would have to squad with a person who knows what their doing so you can't squad with randoms and not everyone wants to gun for you so even in corp or alliance you will have to search for people. I have invested around 4 million into my main turret and 0 sp into small turrets so you want someone like yourself to benefit from our grinding doing no work yourself risking no assets because I am dropping it and then expect me to have little fun doing it. I said allow the pilot to put his seat on the small turret. Learn to read.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 389	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:42:00 - [23] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Next you're going to want a passenger to man my Python's turret. Where was this suggestion when AV was OP? You're just butthurt that you can't insta-pop vehicles anymore. Let CCP rebalance tanks and AV and stop with these outrageous ideas. Actually our thought that came up for the dropships was to allow you to put all of the turrets on the same side. So you could have 3 turrets on one side for the ADS just blasting away at objectives. That would be awesome. And FYI, I can instapop all HAVs and LAVs quite easily. Lol you popping LAV's or HAV's I am quite sure you can not instapop mine and I can imagine you breaking your TV in the process how you state that you talked about this is bizarre it's not a discussion when only on person talks and the other screamed down. Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 282	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:44:00 - [24] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Next you're going to want a passenger to man my Python's turret. Where was this suggestion when AV was OP? You're just butthurt that you can't insta-pop vehicles anymore. Let CCP rebalance tanks and AV and stop with these outrageous ideas. Actually our thought that came up for the dropships was to allow you to put all of the turrets on the same side. So you could have 3 turrets on one side for the ADS just blasting away at objectives. That would be awesome. And FYI, I can instapop all HAVs and LAVs quite easily. Lol you popping LAV's or HAV's I am quite sure you can not instapop mine and I can imagine you breaking your TV in the process how you state that you talked about this is bizarre it's not a discussion when only on person talks and the other screamed down. I would instapop your HAV and you would sent me hate mail for doing it. I do not fight clean.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 389	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:44:00 - [25] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: So I should invest 10 mil plus skill points that took months to obtain, hours of ISK grinding to be able to afford to tank and now only being able to drive said tank. You would have to squad with a person who knows what their doing so you can't squad with randoms and not everyone wants to gun for you so even in corp or alliance you will have to search for people. I have invested around 4 million into my main turret and 0 sp into small turrets so you want someone like yourself to benefit from our grinding doing no work yourself risking no assets because I am dropping it and then expect me to have little fun doing it. I said allow the pilot to put his seat on the small turret. Learn to read. I read that but I would not be able to shoot in the air at drop ships or people on hills have 360 degree view or shoot while reversing learn to read between the lines. Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 389	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:46:00 - [26] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Next you're going to want a passenger to man my Python's turret. Where was this suggestion when AV was OP? You're just butthurt that you can't insta-pop vehicles anymore. Let CCP rebalance tanks and AV and stop with these outrageous ideas. Actually our thought that came up for the dropships was to allow you to put all of the turrets on the same side. So you could have 3 turrets on one side for the ADS just blasting away at objectives. That would be awesome. And FYI, I can instapop all HAVs and LAVs quite easily. Lol you popping LAV's or HAV's I am quite sure you can not instapop mine and I can imagine you breaking your TV in the process how you state that you talked about this is bizarre it's not a discussion when only on person talks and the other screamed down. I would instapop your HAV and you would sent me hate mail for doing it. I do not fight clean. No one has ever successfully killed me with a jihad jeep people have tried even someone in corp that we qsynced against tried twice and failed twice. Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 282	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:47:00 - [27] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Next you're going to want a passenger to man my Python's turret. Where was this suggestion when AV was OP? You're just butthurt that you can't insta-pop vehicles anymore. Let CCP rebalance tanks and AV and stop with these outrageous ideas. Actually our thought that came up for the dropships was to allow you to put all of the turrets on the same side. So you could have 3 turrets on one side for the ADS just blasting away at objectives. That would be awesome. And FYI, I can instapop all HAVs and LAVs quite easily. Lol you popping LAV's or HAV's I am quite sure you can not instapop mine and I can imagine you breaking your TV in the process how you state that you talked about this is bizarre it's not a discussion when only on person talks and the other screamed down. I would instapop your HAV and you would sent me hate mail for doing it. I do not fight clean. No one has ever successfully killed me with a jihad jeep people have tried even someone in corp that we qsynced against tried twice and failed twice. Does your tank have 16500+ HP?
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 389	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:50:00 - [28] - Quote Hardened shields ***** that's if you reach me before you are blown sky high by one of your own remotes ^^ Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 283	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:52:00 - [29] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Hardened shields ***** that's if you reach me before you are blown sky high by one of your own remotes ^^ Getting blown from my own remotes does happen from time to time, but I plan my attack route proper and most times you will not even see me coming.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 78	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:54:00 - [30] - Quote Two options Allow the tanks to use all the turrets just like the Eve ships. Without having to give up their piloting seat and group them as they want. Allow a bigger modular tank destroyer that if equipped with a mobile CRU allows squad mates to spawn in it and supply their own role based modules. Destroyer is a base platform for the driver or commander. Add in other corp squadies for additional roles ie main gun, ammo loader, engineering. Allow the beast to house an entire squad, but each role requires a person. So you can have one man do everything tanks, whilst the other is a squad/corp tank where the squad/corp pays for it. Heck let it be a tank quartermaster role in a corp to predesign these. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.



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