Cant we just say tanks are fine like AV did for over 6months and just enjoy ourselves?

Cant we just say tanks are fine like AV did for over 6months and just enjoy ourselves?

lol don't get me wrong I'm enjoying tanks, what really urks me is militia tankers with zero points in tanking 2 shotting me from their red line. Can't exactly keep my hardener up 100% of the time just 90% lol

So your butthurt and salty?

AV was fine back then if you were good enough to not tickle your willy and turn your hardners back on.

And even with only 7mil SP invested, I could still somehow survive PRO AV. Unlike the "seasoned" vets.

Ironic, isn't it?

Also, why can't you be more like Flix?

You got killed in a maddy with a small militia turret from a DS

You cant say anything

You got killed in a maddy with a small militia turret from a DS

You cant say anything

Rofl ignore him he's just a bad troll who is horrible at tanking. he wonders why noone in tanks r us or sand castles invites him to squads :p

Goddlam it. Quit using unnecessary line spaces.

Rofl ignore him he's just a bad troll who is horrible at tanking. he wonders why noone in tanks r us or sand castles invites him to squads :p

Don't mind tanks being hard to kill, but we need to be rewarded for making you soil yourself and run away(WP for damage). We also need to be able to capitalize on the "waves of opportunity" as promised. I don't want an easy kill but I want to be rewarded for my efforts.

You cannot nerf one without the other and I highly disagree with nerfing the militia HAVs HP as it would give the military grade tank far too much advantage regardless of what the milita tank brings. Right now I will fear a sica with a railgun becuase I will not be able to chew through the shields fast enough before he splits my madruger in half with his rail tank and in a two vs 1 scenario I'd likely lose. '

My madruger does not need to be able to plow through a dozen militia tanks without breaking a sweat.

I am also still pushing for teiricide, if anything the milita tanks may actually get buffed because of that process if its done and nullify the need to ever want a prototype tank.

You cannot nerf one without the other and I highly disagree with nerfing the militia HAVs HP as it would give the military grade tank far too much advantage regardless of what the milita tank brings. Right now I will fear a sica with a railgun becuase I will not be able to chew through the shields fast enough before he splits my madruger in half with his rail tank and in a two vs 1 scenario I'd likely lose. '

My madruger does not need to be able to plow through a dozen militia tanks without breaking a sweat.

I am also still pushing for teiricide, if anything the milita tanks may actually get buffed because of that process if its done and nullify the need to ever want a prototype tank.

So you advocate all tanks having basically the same amount of defense and offense, just for longer or shorter "wave" times?

The more SP you put into tanking the longer your active times and the shorter your cool down?

Sorry but mlt vs std tanks is fine. My alt is a pure tanker, but with only mid sp. To fit a really good survivable tank, I dump it all into core tanking skills. I left out the mass sp waste of std tanks, do to the fact it is so much sp for just 1 more slot and some cpu/pg. There is just no real incentive for me to drop points into it.

Q: So are vehicles going to play an ever-larger role in the game? Or are you going to keep it more infantry-focused?

A: Our goal isnGÇÖt that the infantry and the vehicles are these two separate worlds and never the twain shall meet, but rather we want it to be cohesive so that they play together and support each other. WeGÇÖve been working on a really big overhaul of the vehicle mechanics GÇô there will be a far greater emphasis on active module use than ever before. The intent here is to create GÇÿwaves of opportunityGÇÖ that allow vehicles to be devastating... temporarily. Active modules will greatly enhance a vehicleGÇÖs attributes, but when they enter cooldown, the vehicle is left exposed and vulnerable to attack. This back-and-forth allows infantry to engage vehicles, but do so knowing that the vehicleGÇÖs pilot has a short window in which he can drastically alter the outcome of any engagement.

WeGÇÖre aware weGÇÖre making some big changes and we know itGÇÖs not all going to be perfect GÇô you really have to get it out into the hands of a few thousand players to find out whatGÇÖs going to happen. ThatGÇÖs actually one of the gratifying things when working on a GÇÿgame as a serviceGÇÖ in that you have the opportunity to continually learn and improve the game over time. So, weGÇÖll be waiting in the sidelines ready to jump on hotfixes or any changes that we need to do in case problems pop up!

lol don't get me wrong I'm enjoying tanks, what really urks me is militia tankers with zero points in tanking 2 shotting me from their red line. Can't exactly keep my hardener up 100% of the time just 90% lol

So your butthurt and salty?

AV was fine back then if you were good enough to not tickle your willy and turn your hardners back on.

And even with only 7mil SP invested, I could still somehow survive PRO AV. Unlike the "seasoned" vets.

Ironic, isn't it?

Also, why can't you be more like Flix?

Thusfar we all know tanks are a pain to destroy, and requires teamwork which is great. It's awesome how shield is the hit and run, armor can take a beating but if they get low they are in trouble. That being said lets say you have 20 million skill points into tanks, should someone with not even 1 single point in tanks be able to destroy your 700k plus tank in two shots just cause they was on a hill with a sica with damage mods? (stating of course that your hardener is down given you're half way across the map)

Many people are crying foul on tanks, where as the current level of tanks are fine if you account for maddy and gunlog. tanks. The issue why you are seeing so many is because the militia tanks are on par with the best tankers in the game almost, and require no skill points to use. Someone fresh out of the academy could use one and destroy a vet tanker.

Below is the differences between a dedicated tanker, and someone whom just came out of the academy.

Reduced Cooldowns on active modules
Increased turret turning speed
Increased Reload times
Slightly increased Armor rep or shield regen when depleted.
Ability to use missile turrets which are awesome but useless against shields with a hardener.

Yes the differences are huge in the long term, problem is that there is no increased ability to survive, leaving those no skill militia tanks being able to kill us just as easy as a vet tank at distance. They can activate their two hardeners with a rail turret and destroy tanks like nothing. Or god forbid they have a rail turret with double damage mods where they can easily destroy a vet player half way across the map in 2 shots.

There are many solutions that are possible including requiring skills to use the militia tanks given how strong they are. I mean why run a 250k proto suit when you can run a 75k militia tank and dominate both infantry and tanks. A few solutions that have been mentioned is listed below:

• Reduce HP of militia tanks
Tier the hardeners like they was pre 1.6 to decrease the survivability of militia tanks while not harming the true dedicated tankers within the game.
Requiring higher skill requirements to use damage mods on tanks.

Feel free to mention how you feel tanks need balanced, and before you say it please note the nitrious has already been fixed, and they are already looking at reducing the overall speed of tanks. Please do not turn this into an AV QQ thread, this is for constructive feedback from tankers, or those whom know tanks not AV.

*P.S* Trolls go elsewhere I will not feed you, so you will starve here lol.

More like having tanks not being about having the biggest gun, I taken out tanks with prototype gear and blasters with my basic gear. T vs T environment is nearly perfect in terms of stats, window of engagement, opportunities, favoring the smart and better played players. Thus overall this box is good to go and should be not require that much more tape to make it more perfect.

As for AV vs T and nonTV vs T there is room for improvement but that can come from tweaking small turrets, av effectiveness and various other means which is far safer thing to change than to mess with current Tank vs Tank.

The only thing that would most likely change is how fast the HAVs go and reducing their top speed slightly (but keeping the acceleration mechanics the same)

Hardeners and other cool downs could also be messed with to change up the wave time, as one highly skilled player could nullify any drawbacks of a cool-down for example. However recently I have been running up against dual hardners and no +HP veicles and tearing them a new one because the raw damage they're taking is far too much for their shallow pool of available HP. 99% reistances does you no good if you only have 100 hp and you get nailed with 10k damage.