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          Thor Odinson42 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:37:00 -
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          They need participation to look at the data. But these updated LP payouts for standings are just simply not going to cut it.
  CCP has a history of responding to player outrage. This is something I believe we can all agree on. These payouts are crap. And this was the one area that had created some enthusiasm for the game. 
  Don't play FW until they agree to make the grind for standings worthwhile.
 Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again. 
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          Reav Hannari 
          Red Rock Outriders
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:38:00 -
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          I stand with Thor.
 // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana 
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          KatanaPT 
          Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:39:00 -
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          Quite honestly, ill take the route of a true merc, i'm doing ALL factions, yay!
 Tech Guard Recruiting Spot 
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          Lynn Beck 
          Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:41:00 -
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          I'm with katana. If they find that nobody is leveling to 10, then they might reconsider
 Under 28db 
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) 
I haz knife. Me get steak? 
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          Zekain K 
          Expert Intervention Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:42:00 -
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          I don't want to play, and lose dozens of caldari fw battles just so I can buy 5 special rifles.
 CALDARI MASTER RACE 
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          Thor Odinson42 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:44:00 -
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          This is their new toy. If nobody plays with it they will reconsider
 
 Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again. 
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          Sana Rayya 
          WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:45:00 -
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          I never play FW anyway so I can get behind this. | 
      
      
      
          
          Joel II X 
          Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:46:00 -
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          I have approx. 5k LP and the only thing I use it for is getting proto scouts that I'm not willing to use at the moment.
  Soooo HTFU and GG? | 
      
      
      
          
          Sick Metagamer 
          Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:46:00 -
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          Here is the thing CCP don't get: if they boost the payout to say 5000LP at Level 10, EVERYONE at level 10 would buy the LP Boosters all of the time because they would be worth the dollar investment. This is one mechanic where CCP could make a crap load of money if done right. Low reward for FW is killing their chance to make cash.
  I have become stingy with my money and Dust, but if FW was worth it, I would blow money on the boosters. | 
      
      
      
          
          Thor Odinson42 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:46:00 -
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          Sana Rayya wrote:I never play FW anyway so I can get behind this.  
  well that works
 
 Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again. 
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          Cat Merc 
          Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:47:00 -
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          /signed
 Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. 
Tuna > Tacos 
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          Mr CreepyPasta 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:48:00 -
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          I'm going to continue slaughtering Caldari scum as they foolishly attempt to hold some ground. why boycott i mean seriously FW or not you still grind for gear so why not just get over it and up your standing for less grind | 
      
      
      
          
          Thor Odinson42 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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          Sick Metagamer wrote:Here is the thing CCP don't get: if they boost the payout to say 5000LP at Level 10, EVERYONE at level 10 would buy the LP Boosters all of the time because they would be worth the dollar investment. This is one mechanic where CCP could make a crap load of money if done right. Low reward for FW is killing their chance to make cash.
  I have become stingy with my money and Dust, but if FW was worth it, I would blow money on the boosters.  
  This is pretty apparent for people with functioning brains
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          Thor Odinson42 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:49:00 -
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          Mr CreepyPasta wrote:I'm going to continue slaughtering Caldari scum as they foolishly attempt to hold some ground. why boycott i mean seriously FW or not you still grind for gear so why not just get over it and up your standing for less grind  
  Go for it man, but I value my time more. I also want to see the game succeed.
 Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again. 
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          Mr CreepyPasta 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:50:00 -
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          Sick Metagamer wrote:Here is the thing CCP don't get: if they boost the payout to say 5000LP at Level 10, EVERYONE at level 10 would buy the LP Boosters all of the time because they would be worth the dollar investment. This is one mechanic where CCP could make a crap load of money if done right. Low reward for FW is killing their chance to make cash.
  I have become stingy with my money and Dust, but if FW was worth it, I would blow money on the boosters.    yea! CCP is definitely in it for the money! ( sarcasm :P ) | 
      
      
      
          
          Zekain K 
          Expert Intervention Caldari State
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          Sick Metagamer wrote:Here is the thing CCP don't get: if they boost the payout to say 5000LP at Level 10, EVERYONE at level 10 would buy the LP Boosters all of the time because they would be worth the dollar investment. This is one mechanic where CCP could make a crap load of money if done right. Low reward for FW is killing their chance to make cash.
  I have become stingy with my money and Dust, but if FW was worth it, I would blow money on the boosters.   Or they could leave the low payout , and make the boosters reward you with 200% more lp.
 CALDARI not so MASTER RACE 
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          Thor Odinson42 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:51:00 -
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          Mr CreepyPasta wrote:Sick Metagamer wrote:Here is the thing CCP don't get: if they boost the payout to say 5000LP at Level 10, EVERYONE at level 10 would buy the LP Boosters all of the time because they would be worth the dollar investment. This is one mechanic where CCP could make a crap load of money if done right. Low reward for FW is killing their chance to make cash.
  I have become stingy with my money and Dust, but if FW was worth it, I would blow money on the boosters.   yea! CCP is definitely in it for the money! ( sarcasm :P )  
  Why the sarcasm, they are a business? The last I checked Iceland wasn't in North Korea.
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          ZiwZih 
          Seraphim Initiative..
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:52:00 -
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          Beining a skinny step-clone of Federation, I am worthless if not well dressed.
  Yet those bastards want to pay us in beans, even after hundreds of wins. Screw you. | 
      
      
      
          
          Mr CreepyPasta 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:53:00 -
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          Thor Odinson42 wrote:Mr CreepyPasta wrote:I'm going to continue slaughtering Caldari scum as they foolishly attempt to hold some ground. why boycott i mean seriously FW or not you still grind for gear so why not just get over it and up your standing for less grind  Go for it man, but I value my time more. I also want to see the game succeed.   as do i, and i know it will succeed. | 
      
      
      
          
          Awesome Pantaloons 
          Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:56:00 -
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          And while we're on the topic of FW, what happened to Amarr? Minmatar forces rarely beat us, and now we're getting hammered into the ground. I struggled just to get to level 1 standings. :( FW is just awful all of the sudden, and the reward is far below the loss.
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor 
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          Mr CreepyPasta 
          DUST University Ivy League
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          Thor Odinson42 wrote:Mr CreepyPasta wrote:Sick Metagamer wrote:Here is the thing CCP don't get: if they boost the payout to say 5000LP at Level 10, EVERYONE at level 10 would buy the LP Boosters all of the time because they would be worth the dollar investment. This is one mechanic where CCP could make a crap load of money if done right. Low reward for FW is killing their chance to make cash.
  I have become stingy with my money and Dust, but if FW was worth it, I would blow money on the boosters.   yea! CCP is definitely in it for the money! ( sarcasm :P )  Why the sarcasm, they are a business? The last I checked Iceland wasn't in North Korea.   i know they are a business but if they were in it for the money do you think DUST would be F2P or Pay 2 Play and Pay 2 Win ( ok the sarcasm was unnecessary) | 
      
      
      
          
          Lv2spd2 
          Slow And Old
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:57:00 -
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          Sorry, publics are such a mess right now with the tank disaster that I don't enjoy them, so for me its pretty much factionals or nothing right now. | 
      
      
      
          
          Thor Odinson42 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 17:59:00 -
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          Mr CreepyPasta wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Mr CreepyPasta wrote:Sick Metagamer wrote:Here is the thing CCP don't get: if they boost the payout to say 5000LP at Level 10, EVERYONE at level 10 would buy the LP Boosters all of the time because they would be worth the dollar investment. This is one mechanic where CCP could make a crap load of money if done right. Low reward for FW is killing their chance to make cash.
  I have become stingy with my money and Dust, but if FW was worth it, I would blow money on the boosters.   yea! CCP is definitely in it for the money! ( sarcasm :P )  Why the sarcasm, they are a business? The last I checked Iceland wasn't in North Korea.  i know they are a business but if they were in it for the money do you think DUST would be F2P or Pay 2 Play and Pay 2 Win ( ok the sarcasm was unnecessary)  
  I'm honestly not even going to attempt to explain to you the concept of F2P and microtransactions. 
  They aren't doing this out of good will.
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          Thor Odinson42 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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          Lv2spd2 wrote:Sorry, publics are such a mess right now with the tank disaster that I don't enjoy them, so for me its pretty much factionals or nothing right now.  
  No worries, if I could I might try to hold you down or kidnap you or something but I can't.
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          We are 138 
          Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 18:03:00 -
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          Thor Odinson42 wrote:They need participation to look at the data. But these updated LP payouts for standings are just simply not going to cut it.
  CCP has a history of responding to player outrage. This is something I believe we can all agree on. These payouts are crap. And this was the one area that had created some enthusiasm for the game. 
  Don't play FW until they agree to make the grind for standings worthwhile.  
 
  ***** until you get what you want..... great plan.   | 
      
      
      
          
          Sgt Kirk 
          SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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          AFK farming Pubs now. 
  What the hell am I doing with my life. 
  Ohh yeah, Pubs suck, PC is garbage and the only mode that's actually fun pays you nothing. 
  Wonderful game you got going on here CCP. | 
      
      
      
          
          ZiwZih 
          Seraphim Initiative..
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 18:05:00 -
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          Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And while we're on the topic of FW, what happened to Amarr? Minmatar forces rarely beat us, and now we're getting hammered into the ground. I struggled just to get to level 1 standings. :( FW is just awful all of the sudden, and the reward is far below the loss.  
 
  What happened to Amarr? Seems your god sent lolLP rewards upon us, so now when we all quit you might finally beat the rust. | 
      
      
      
          
          Thor Odinson42 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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          We are 138 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:They need participation to look at the data. But these updated LP payouts for standings are just simply not going to cut it.
  CCP has a history of responding to player outrage. This is something I believe we can all agree on. These payouts are crap. And this was the one area that had created some enthusiasm for the game. 
  Don't play FW until they agree to make the grind for standings worthwhile.  ***** until you get what you want..... great plan.    
  I agree, thanks. It worked in Eve
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          Morathi III 
          Policeman of the Federation
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        Posted - 2013.12.13 18:08:00 -
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          Sgt Kirk wrote:AFK farming Pubs now. 
  What the hell am I doing with my life. 
  Ohh yeah, Pubs suck, PC is garbage and the only mode that's actually fun pays you nothing. 
  Wonderful game you got going on here CCP.    I want a 1 vs 1 against you in Gallente FW The winner get kick for the day in FW!!!! | 
      
      
      
          
          Llast 326 
          An Arkhos
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          Morathi III wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:AFK farming Pubs now. 
  What the hell am I doing with my life. 
  Ohh yeah, Pubs suck, PC is garbage and the only mode that's actually fun pays you nothing. 
  Wonderful game you got going on here CCP.   I want a 1 vs 1 against you in Gallente FW The winner get kick for the day in FW!!!!   You just made me realize that we can do organized death matches in FW simply by squaring up   Edit squading GǪ not squaring  
 KRRROOOOOOM 
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