DUST Search - I want my proto suits back

Cat Merc wrote:

AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote:

I'm dissappointed Cat Merc. So what, you want to be able to stomp a team that's already lost and retaliating in the only way possible? Why don't you spawn in a sniper and counter snipe? In a scout suit and bum rush the red zone to find their position and possibly kill them? AR/CR/RR/ScR spam is NOT the only way to play this game. It's a sniper. It works at range. That's the advantage. It is NOT easy to use. What you want them to come and give you a "fair" fight while you run around in your gal logi? Snipers are already useless because all those rifle variants out dps it in real situations. You don't see any snipers going 49-0 ala Arkena Wyrnspire (respect!) ..... you barely see any snipers anymore. You barely see heavies. You just don't see scouts. Let them be and use another suit. Otherwise quit whining and (dare I say) get good.

Yes, I said it. See you on the battlefield.

Sniper to beat Sniper, Rock to beat Rock.

Maps should be designed in a way where infantry can sneak around and 'backstab' the sniper.
Good snipers move around and watch their flanks, so they would be unaffected.

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4700	Posted - 2013.12.13 13:12:00 - [1] - Quote So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it. By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating. Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN. 6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map. This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken. I want my money back. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 545	Posted - 2013.12.13 13:58:00 - [2] - Quote You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match?
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 798	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:01:00 - [3] - Quote most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1732	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:05:00 - [4] - Quote So your complaint is when the enemy team could not do anything to win, they decided to retaliate the only way they knew how instead of continuing to walk into a blender? Having played Caldari FW where it's me literally in first or second place, and the rest of the team being randoms against two Gal corps at once... I can't blame them... I start eating death after death after death trying to do ninja breakouts with spawnlinks in weird places just to try and get my useless team out of the redline and it gets old fast... A Sniper Rifle looks pretty attractive after a while... Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4701	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:07:00 - [5] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: So your complaint is when the enemy team could not do anything to win, they decided to retaliate the only way they knew how instead of continuing to walk into a blender? Having played Caldari FW where it's me literally in first or second place, and the rest of the team being randoms against two Gal corps at once... I can't blame them... I start eating death after death after death trying to do ninja breakouts with spawnlinks in weird places just to try and get my useless team out of the redline and it gets old fast... A Sniper Rifle looks pretty attractive after a while... I don't want to die to it. It's too easy to use and too rewarding. You should always be in a position where you can be killed by someone coming up to you and whooping your ass in close range. If there is no such position, the sniper is broken. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4701	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:08:00 - [6] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:09:00 - [7] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits I have the money yes, but that doesn't mean they should so easily take it away. I should be able to retaliate. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 545	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:10:00 - [8] - Quote Your team was dominating, so why did you feel the need to continue spawning in? Especially with a proto suit? Just trying to figure out why, after the first four or five deaths, you thought the next time would be "better"...
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1735	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:12:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. Well now you know how my blueberries feel the instant they try and wave at you from the edge of the redline, a dozen Gal light them up with no where to hide, IN ALL directions. I'm one of the few that can evade scanner hell and bullet hell combined. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:14:00 - [10] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Your team was dominating, so why did you feel the need to continue spawning in? Especially with a proto suit? Just trying to figure out why, after the first four or five deaths, you thought the next time would be "better"... Because I can afford it. The Caldari were pushing forward, so I had to defend. Still only captured one point, and my team was about to take it back. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 115	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:14:00 - [11] - Quote snipers are a bit UP at the moment, most must have either had a thales, or were really good. pitiful that snipers have to use officer weapons and I understand nobody wants sniper spam, but you cant nerf skill.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:14:00 - [12] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. Well now you know how my blueberries feel the instant they try and wave at you from the edge of the redline, a dozen Gal light them up with no where to hide, IN ALL directions. I'm one of the few that can evade scanner hell and bullet hell combined. At least that has a range limit lol If they can shoot you, most likely you can shoot back and retaliate. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 798	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:15:00 - [13] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits I have the money yes, but that doesn't mean they should so easily take it away. I should be able to retaliate. how do you think us heavies feel when AR/CR/RR users kill us and we only have an obsolete HMG to use. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2263	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:15:00 - [14] - Quote I actually die more in those types of matches where the enemy hides and camps out of reach. I think it actually seems to be getting better though. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:16:00 - [15] - Quote chase rowland wrote: snipers are a bit UP at the moment, most must have either had a thales, or were really good. pitiful that snipers have to use officer weapons and I understand nobody wants sniper spam, but you cant nerf skill. Snipers are not underpowered. What I was being hit by was NOT a thales, rather an ishukone. They hit hard with proficiency and damage mods. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:17:00 - [16] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits I have the money yes, but that doesn't mean they should so easily take it away. I should be able to retaliate. how do you think us heavies feel when AR/CR/RR users kill us and we only have an obsolete HMG to use. If you actually watched the forums enough you would see that I support an HMG buff. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:18:00 - [17] - Quote Anyway, if you agree with me or not, I just had to vent a little. They ruined a fun match for me, so I had to vent. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2209	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:20:00 - [18] - Quote The Orbital Artillery structure is scheduled for an overhaul once Caldari Production and Minmatar Cargo are delivered. I haven't heard the status on Cargo but Production is pending some performance tweaks and should ship soon. OA already had all those fences added which only left a few sniper perches and the ones on the artillery tower itself are easy to counter sniper or be cleared by an assault dropship. The Cat should adapt and kill the pesky snipers with one of several available means. If you want more information on it then bug CCP LogicLoop. He's very good at responding. // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 545	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:20:00 - [19] - Quote So you kept spawning back in because you needed to defend the point and kept dying. Job well done, I guess? You still won. I wouldn't come to the forums and complain about it though. You chose to keep spawning in, and if you died, you died. shrug
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1348	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:21:00 - [20] - Quote When you redline Caldari, swap to a speed and stamina shotgun scout. It's great. Last match I was in I kept sweeping into their redline, popping several, then darting out of it only to survive it all. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC F*ING EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!

Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 799	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:22:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits I have the money yes, but that doesn't mean they should so easily take it away. I should be able to retaliate. how do you think us heavies feel when AR/CR/RR users kill us and we only have an obsolete HMG to use. If you actually watched the forums enough you would see that I support an HMG buff. lol i know you do support us heavies. im just saying that even though you might feel its bad, us heavies have it even worse. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 220	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:24:00 - [22] - Quote I'm dissappointed Cat Merc. So what, you want to be able to stomp a team that's already lost and retaliating in the only way possible? Why don't you spawn in a sniper and counter snipe? In a scout suit and bum rush the red zone to find their position and possibly kill them? AR/CR/RR/ScR spam is NOT the only way to play this game. It's a sniper. It works at range. That's the advantage. It is NOT easy to use. What you want them to come and give you a "fair" fight while you run around in your gal logi? Snipers are already useless because all those rifle variants out dps it in real situations. You don't see any snipers going 49-0 ala Arkena Wyrnspire (respect!) ..... you barely see any snipers anymore. You barely see heavies. You just don't see scouts. Let them be and use another suit. Otherwise quit whining and (dare I say) get good. Yes, I said it. See you on the battlefield.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1504	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:24:00 - [23] - Quote you died to a sniper? seriously? so let's point out the problems ^^ first 1) you had them redlined and refused to stop using proto's 2)you died in a proto suit to a sniper 3) you died 6 times in a proto suit to a sniper 4) you didn't use a militia sniper rifle to kill them 5) you made this thread to point out all th problems with how you play.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:27:00 - [24] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: I'm dissappointed Cat Merc. So what, you want to be able to stomp a team that's already lost and retaliating in the only way possible? Why don't you spawn in a sniper and counter snipe? In a scout suit and bum rush the red zone to find their position and possibly kill them? AR/CR/RR/ScR spam is NOT the only way to play this game. It's a sniper. It works at range. That's the advantage. It is NOT easy to use. What you want them to come and give you a "fair" fight while you run around in your gal logi? Snipers are already useless because all those rifle variants out dps it in real situations. You don't see any snipers going 49-0 ala Arkena Wyrnspire (respect!) ..... you barely see any snipers anymore. You barely see heavies. You just don't see scouts. Let them be and use another suit. Otherwise quit whining and (dare I say) get good. Yes, I said it. See you on the battlefield. Sniper to beat Sniper, Rock to beat Rock. Maps should be designed in a way where infantry can sneak around and 'backstab' the sniper. Good snipers move around and watch their flanks, so they would be unaffected. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4706	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:29:00 - [25] - Quote calisk galern wrote: you died to a sniper? seriously? so let's point out the problems ^^ first 1) you had them redlined and refused to stop using proto's 2)you died in a proto suit to a sniper 3) you died 6 times in a proto suit to a sniper 4) you didn't use a militia sniper rifle to kill them 5) you made this thread to point out all th problems with how you play. the ONLY excuse for you dieing 6 times to a sniper would be that you are a scout, but that doesn't excuse the other issues. 1) I have the money 2) Two shots to die in a proto suit, and they're rapid fire. I think there is no problem here 3) Same answer 4) Yes because I can totally kill a logi with 9340329420349230 HP that will just go back to cover with a militia sniper 5) I made this thread to point out how you can't retaliate in that map. And vent. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 800	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:30:00 - [26] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Maps should be designed in a way where infantry can sneak around and 'backstab' the sniper. Good snipers move around and watch their flanks, so they would be unaffected. you mean like this hehehehehe YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 545	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:31:00 - [27] - Quote But you're complaining about Orbital Artillery (which is the socket with the H-building and the triple rings, right)? So all the snipers were in high points accessible only by ladders/dropships? Why couldn't you take your own dropship up and spook them?
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 220	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:35:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: I'm dissappointed Cat Merc. So what, you want to be able to stomp a team that's already lost and retaliating in the only way possible? Why don't you spawn in a sniper and counter snipe? In a scout suit and bum rush the red zone to find their position and possibly kill them? AR/CR/RR/ScR spam is NOT the only way to play this game. It's a sniper. It works at range. That's the advantage. It is NOT easy to use. What you want them to come and give you a "fair" fight while you run around in your gal logi? Snipers are already useless because all those rifle variants out dps it in real situations. You don't see any snipers going 49-0 ala Arkena Wyrnspire (respect!) ..... you barely see any snipers anymore. You barely see heavies. You just don't see scouts. Let them be and use another suit. Otherwise quit whining and (dare I say) get good. Yes, I said it. See you on the battlefield. Sniper to beat Sniper, Rock to beat Rock. Maps should be designed in a way where infantry can sneak around and 'backstab' the sniper. Good snipers move around and watch their flanks, so they would be unaffected. Speed tank a Gallente Scout with 3 Complex Kin cats and a complex cardiac regulator, active scanner and shotgun. 2 options. Suicide mission into the red zone or scout mission to pinpoint their location before countersniping with a mitilia fit. You don't need to kill them, just scare them and let them know you know where they are. They will leave their advantageous position and be more vulnerable subsequently. This often works. i find that most snipers lose courage when found out. Send a message, it's not always about the actual kill
Chewie Parker Black Phoenix Mercenaries 108	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:41:00 - [29] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. why not retreat , leave them edge forward and then reattack when they come in close rangs ,,, common sense really
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4706	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:41:00 - [30] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: But you're complaining about Orbital Artillery (which is the socket with the H-building and the triple rings, right)? So all the snipers were in high points accessible only by ladders/dropships? Why couldn't you take your own dropship up and spook them? Starts with F Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos



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