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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4700	Posted - 2013.12.13 13:12:00 - [1] - Quote So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it. By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating. Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN. 6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map. This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken. I want my money back. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 545	Posted - 2013.12.13 13:58:00 - [2] - Quote You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match?
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 798	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:01:00 - [3] - Quote most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1732	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:05:00 - [4] - Quote So your complaint is when the enemy team could not do anything to win, they decided to retaliate the only way they knew how instead of continuing to walk into a blender? Having played Caldari FW where it's me literally in first or second place, and the rest of the team being randoms against two Gal corps at once... I can't blame them... I start eating death after death after death trying to do ninja breakouts with spawnlinks in weird places just to try and get my useless team out of the redline and it gets old fast... A Sniper Rifle looks pretty attractive after a while... Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4701	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:07:00 - [5] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: So your complaint is when the enemy team could not do anything to win, they decided to retaliate the only way they knew how instead of continuing to walk into a blender? Having played Caldari FW where it's me literally in first or second place, and the rest of the team being randoms against two Gal corps at once... I can't blame them... I start eating death after death after death trying to do ninja breakouts with spawnlinks in weird places just to try and get my useless team out of the redline and it gets old fast... A Sniper Rifle looks pretty attractive after a while... I don't want to die to it. It's too easy to use and too rewarding. You should always be in a position where you can be killed by someone coming up to you and whooping your ass in close range. If there is no such position, the sniper is broken. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4701	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:08:00 - [6] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:09:00 - [7] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits I have the money yes, but that doesn't mean they should so easily take it away. I should be able to retaliate. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 545	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:10:00 - [8] - Quote Your team was dominating, so why did you feel the need to continue spawning in? Especially with a proto suit? Just trying to figure out why, after the first four or five deaths, you thought the next time would be "better"...
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1735	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:12:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. Well now you know how my blueberries feel the instant they try and wave at you from the edge of the redline, a dozen Gal light them up with no where to hide, IN ALL directions. I'm one of the few that can evade scanner hell and bullet hell combined. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:14:00 - [10] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Your team was dominating, so why did you feel the need to continue spawning in? Especially with a proto suit? Just trying to figure out why, after the first four or five deaths, you thought the next time would be "better"... Because I can afford it. The Caldari were pushing forward, so I had to defend. Still only captured one point, and my team was about to take it back. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 115	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:14:00 - [11] - Quote snipers are a bit UP at the moment, most must have either had a thales, or were really good. pitiful that snipers have to use officer weapons and I understand nobody wants sniper spam, but you cant nerf skill.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:14:00 - [12] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. Well now you know how my blueberries feel the instant they try and wave at you from the edge of the redline, a dozen Gal light them up with no where to hide, IN ALL directions. I'm one of the few that can evade scanner hell and bullet hell combined. At least that has a range limit lol If they can shoot you, most likely you can shoot back and retaliate. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 798	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:15:00 - [13] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits I have the money yes, but that doesn't mean they should so easily take it away. I should be able to retaliate. how do you think us heavies feel when AR/CR/RR users kill us and we only have an obsolete HMG to use. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2263	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:15:00 - [14] - Quote I actually die more in those types of matches where the enemy hides and camps out of reach. I think it actually seems to be getting better though. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:16:00 - [15] - Quote chase rowland wrote: snipers are a bit UP at the moment, most must have either had a thales, or were really good. pitiful that snipers have to use officer weapons and I understand nobody wants sniper spam, but you cant nerf skill. Snipers are not underpowered. What I was being hit by was NOT a thales, rather an ishukone. They hit hard with proficiency and damage mods. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:17:00 - [16] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits I have the money yes, but that doesn't mean they should so easily take it away. I should be able to retaliate. how do you think us heavies feel when AR/CR/RR users kill us and we only have an obsolete HMG to use. If you actually watched the forums enough you would see that I support an HMG buff. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:18:00 - [17] - Quote Anyway, if you agree with me or not, I just had to vent a little. They ruined a fun match for me, so I had to vent. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2209	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:20:00 - [18] - Quote The Orbital Artillery structure is scheduled for an overhaul once Caldari Production and Minmatar Cargo are delivered. I haven't heard the status on Cargo but Production is pending some performance tweaks and should ship soon. OA already had all those fences added which only left a few sniper perches and the ones on the artillery tower itself are easy to counter sniper or be cleared by an assault dropship. The Cat should adapt and kill the pesky snipers with one of several available means. If you want more information on it then bug CCP LogicLoop. He's very good at responding. // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 545	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:20:00 - [19] - Quote So you kept spawning back in because you needed to defend the point and kept dying. Job well done, I guess? You still won. I wouldn't come to the forums and complain about it though. You chose to keep spawning in, and if you died, you died. shrug
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1348	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:21:00 - [20] - Quote When you redline Caldari, swap to a speed and stamina shotgun scout. It's great. Last match I was in I kept sweeping into their redline, popping several, then darting out of it only to survive it all. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC F*ING EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!

Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 799	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:22:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: most people usually switch back to ADV if they've lost 2 proto's. well if you have the ISK to spend then you can't really complain when you lose those proto suits I have the money yes, but that doesn't mean they should so easily take it away. I should be able to retaliate. how do you think us heavies feel when AR/CR/RR users kill us and we only have an obsolete HMG to use. If you actually watched the forums enough you would see that I support an HMG buff. lol i know you do support us heavies. im just saying that even though you might feel its bad, us heavies have it even worse. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 220	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:24:00 - [22] - Quote I'm dissappointed Cat Merc. So what, you want to be able to stomp a team that's already lost and retaliating in the only way possible? Why don't you spawn in a sniper and counter snipe? In a scout suit and bum rush the red zone to find their position and possibly kill them? AR/CR/RR/ScR spam is NOT the only way to play this game. It's a sniper. It works at range. That's the advantage. It is NOT easy to use. What you want them to come and give you a "fair" fight while you run around in your gal logi? Snipers are already useless because all those rifle variants out dps it in real situations. You don't see any snipers going 49-0 ala Arkena Wyrnspire (respect!) ..... you barely see any snipers anymore. You barely see heavies. You just don't see scouts. Let them be and use another suit. Otherwise quit whining and (dare I say) get good. Yes, I said it. See you on the battlefield.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1504	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:24:00 - [23] - Quote you died to a sniper? seriously? so let's point out the problems ^^ first 1) you had them redlined and refused to stop using proto's 2)you died in a proto suit to a sniper 3) you died 6 times in a proto suit to a sniper 4) you didn't use a militia sniper rifle to kill them 5) you made this thread to point out all th problems with how you play.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4705	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:27:00 - [24] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: I'm dissappointed Cat Merc. So what, you want to be able to stomp a team that's already lost and retaliating in the only way possible? Why don't you spawn in a sniper and counter snipe? In a scout suit and bum rush the red zone to find their position and possibly kill them? AR/CR/RR/ScR spam is NOT the only way to play this game. It's a sniper. It works at range. That's the advantage. It is NOT easy to use. What you want them to come and give you a "fair" fight while you run around in your gal logi? Snipers are already useless because all those rifle variants out dps it in real situations. You don't see any snipers going 49-0 ala Arkena Wyrnspire (respect!) ..... you barely see any snipers anymore. You barely see heavies. You just don't see scouts. Let them be and use another suit. Otherwise quit whining and (dare I say) get good. Yes, I said it. See you on the battlefield. Sniper to beat Sniper, Rock to beat Rock. Maps should be designed in a way where infantry can sneak around and 'backstab' the sniper. Good snipers move around and watch their flanks, so they would be unaffected. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4706	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:29:00 - [25] - Quote calisk galern wrote: you died to a sniper? seriously? so let's point out the problems ^^ first 1) you had them redlined and refused to stop using proto's 2)you died in a proto suit to a sniper 3) you died 6 times in a proto suit to a sniper 4) you didn't use a militia sniper rifle to kill them 5) you made this thread to point out all th problems with how you play. the ONLY excuse for you dieing 6 times to a sniper would be that you are a scout, but that doesn't excuse the other issues. 1) I have the money 2) Two shots to die in a proto suit, and they're rapid fire. I think there is no problem here 3) Same answer 4) Yes because I can totally kill a logi with 9340329420349230 HP that will just go back to cover with a militia sniper 5) I made this thread to point out how you can't retaliate in that map. And vent. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 800	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:30:00 - [26] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Maps should be designed in a way where infantry can sneak around and 'backstab' the sniper. Good snipers move around and watch their flanks, so they would be unaffected. you mean like this hehehehehe YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 545	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:31:00 - [27] - Quote But you're complaining about Orbital Artillery (which is the socket with the H-building and the triple rings, right)? So all the snipers were in high points accessible only by ladders/dropships? Why couldn't you take your own dropship up and spook them?
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 220	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:35:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: I'm dissappointed Cat Merc. So what, you want to be able to stomp a team that's already lost and retaliating in the only way possible? Why don't you spawn in a sniper and counter snipe? In a scout suit and bum rush the red zone to find their position and possibly kill them? AR/CR/RR/ScR spam is NOT the only way to play this game. It's a sniper. It works at range. That's the advantage. It is NOT easy to use. What you want them to come and give you a "fair" fight while you run around in your gal logi? Snipers are already useless because all those rifle variants out dps it in real situations. You don't see any snipers going 49-0 ala Arkena Wyrnspire (respect!) ..... you barely see any snipers anymore. You barely see heavies. You just don't see scouts. Let them be and use another suit. Otherwise quit whining and (dare I say) get good. Yes, I said it. See you on the battlefield. Sniper to beat Sniper, Rock to beat Rock. Maps should be designed in a way where infantry can sneak around and 'backstab' the sniper. Good snipers move around and watch their flanks, so they would be unaffected. Speed tank a Gallente Scout with 3 Complex Kin cats and a complex cardiac regulator, active scanner and shotgun. 2 options. Suicide mission into the red zone or scout mission to pinpoint their location before countersniping with a mitilia fit. You don't need to kill them, just scare them and let them know you know where they are. They will leave their advantageous position and be more vulnerable subsequently. This often works. i find that most snipers lose courage when found out. Send a message, it's not always about the actual kill
Chewie Parker Black Phoenix Mercenaries 108	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:41:00 - [29] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. why not retreat , leave them edge forward and then reattack when they come in close rangs ,,, common sense really
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4706	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:41:00 - [30] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: But you're complaining about Orbital Artillery (which is the socket with the H-building and the triple rings, right)? So all the snipers were in high points accessible only by ladders/dropships? Why couldn't you take your own dropship up and spook them? Starts with F Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4706	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:44:00 - [31] - Quote Chewie Parker wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. why not retreat , leave them edge forward and then reattack when they come in close rangs ,,, common sense really It was inside a complex... If we retreat, they would have the entire thing. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 525	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:53:00 - [32] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Chewie Parker wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. why not retreat , leave them edge forward and then reattack when they come in close rangs ,,, common sense really It was inside a complex... If we retreat, they would have the entire thing. But you said the match was over - you sounded like you wanted to keep redlining and they started to pick you off.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 546	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:58:00 - [33] - Quote So the match was won and you kept getting killed because you had to stay by the points and all the snipers were killing you. I don't buy that "there was nowhere to hide". Even if all rooftops are covered, there are places to hide in that socket. For one, you could hide in the Charlie hack terminal area. Or you could hide in the stairs area on the supply depot side of Alpha. I also don't buy that a forge, or even multiple forgers, could cover dropship access to every roof. You might not be able to hover for very long, but if you approach the socket from the outside, you could at least get access to the ladder areas. Or just climb the ladders. If you don't want to take the time to pry them out of their high spots, you shouldn't be complaining when they kill you from those high spots.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2213	Posted - 2013.12.13 14:59:00 - [34] - Quote About two weeks ago I was fighting a domination in OA. I was first in to hack, laid out uplinks and hives and defended that place with my life for half the match. So, the enemy dropped snipers up in the ring tower and they started popping us like crazy. I spawned outside with my sniper rifle and started killing them as soon as they appeared and ended their sniper offensive. Can you guess what happened next? Yep. Some idiot blue doesn't like the fact that I'm outside in the hills with a sniper rifle, bothers to run all the way out there and starts whacking me and trying to drop LAVs on me. // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 251	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:02:00 - [35] - Quote OP is stupid as crap, uhhhhh, dont use proto then if u DONT WANT TO LOSE IT. Stupidest thing I've heard all week. I think my IQ dropped a few points just reading it.
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1448	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:05:00 - [36] - Quote Don't take out what you can't afford to use. Amarr My OB Kills Selling Templar BPO
Adelia Lafayette DUST University Ivy League 478	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:11:00 - [37] - Quote I killed a heavy suit hiding in the redline on a tower once. Flew a dropship in with a scanner to find him and jumped out and shotguned him to death. It felt good. Militia scanner on a dropship is great for finding snipers. Assault dropship gets blown up.... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"... ..."I'm back"
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 547	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:12:00 - [38] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Don't take out what you can't afford to use. And since Cat can afford to lose it, don't complain when you do.
LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 251	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:13:00 - [39] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Don't take out what you can't afford to use. Exactly. Nobody made you use proto suits over and over. Or even once for that matter.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 547	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:19:00 - [40] - Quote Which begs the question - at what point do you have enough ISK to feel like running proto all the time, no matter how many deaths you get? I have a pretty good chunk of ISK but I'm still reluctant to go proto more than 20-30% of the time...

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2214	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:21:00 - [41] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Which begs the question - at what point do you have enough ISK to feel like running proto all the time, no matter how many deaths you get? I have a pretty good chunk of ISK but I'm still reluctant to go pro to more than 20-30% of the time... I feel the same way. I could lose prototypes for a long time but I rarely bring one to a match. // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1450	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:32:00 - [42] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Which begs the question - at what point do you have enough ISK to feel like running proto all the time, no matter how many deaths you get? I have a pretty good chunk of ISK but I'm still reluctant to go proto more than 20-30% of the time... I'm filthy rich and I still don't like to wear proto 100% of the time because adv is not that much worse than proto so I am drawn to it. Amarr My OB Kills Selling Templar BPO
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 600	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:38:00 - [43] - Quote DOn't run what you can't afford to loose. What is they had EVE support? no amount of proto can save you from that. Also, 6 times? if your winning then why not go with free suits and wait it out "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4707	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:39:00 - [44] - Quote LT Dans Legs wrote: OP is stupid as crap, uhhhhh, dont use proto then if u DONT WANT TO LOSE IT. Stupidest thing I've heard all week. I think my IQ dropped a few points just reading it. Your IQ dropped for a different reason. I don't care about losing that proto suit, I lose them plenty in other ways, I care about how BS of a match that was. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4707	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:40:00 - [45] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Which begs the question - at what point do you have enough ISK to feel like running proto all the time, no matter how many deaths you get? I have a pretty good chunk of ISK but I'm still reluctant to go proto more than 20-30% of the time... 150 mil ISK for me. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Sophie DV 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 12	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:48:00 - [46] - Quote You realize that snipers dont go around capping points, right? You realize they have a hard time as a single sniper killing people before they get back to cover, right? Honestly, you're whining about dying after you redline a team? How do you think it feels to be redlined and you can't use any short/mid range weapons effectively due to being outnumbered? Can you blame them for switching to a gun that can actually hit you? Man up already.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 836	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:53:00 - [47] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it. By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating. Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN. 6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map. This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken. I want my money back. Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had. I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. Get yourself a good sniper fit and hide in a corner... CCP, promoting exploits with every update LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4707	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:56:00 - [48] - Quote Sophie DV wrote: You realize that snipers dont go around capping points, right? You realize they have a hard time as a single sniper killing people before they get back to cover, right? Honestly, you're whining about dying after you redline a team? How do you think it feels to be redlined and you can't use any short/mid range weapons effectively due to being outnumbered? Can you blame them for switching to a gun that can actually hit you? Man up already. I am FAR from their redline. In fact my whole team is, we are on points, protecting them. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 548	Posted - 2013.12.13 16:16:00 - [49] - Quote Next time just hide in a spot where they can't get LOS on you but you still have LOS on the hack terminal. So if someone goes to hack, you can kill them, but their snipers can't get you.
AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 57	Posted - 2013.12.13 16:28:00 - [50] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it. By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating. Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN. 6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map. This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken. I want my money back. Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had. I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. Why didnt you put a wall between you and the redline snipers? You deserved to die 5 more times.

Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 340	Posted - 2013.12.13 16:28:00 - [51] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sophie DV wrote: You realize that snipers dont go around capping points, right? You realize they have a hard time as a single sniper killing people before they get back to cover, right? Honestly, you're whining about dying after you redline a team? How do you think it feels to be redlined and you can't use any short/mid range weapons effectively due to being outnumbered? Can you blame them for switching to a gun that can actually hit you? Man up already. I am FAR from their redline. In fact my whole team is, we are on points, protecting them. As someone who plays as a sniper on a regular basis, the first thing I'd do once I was killed (and saw what weapon it was that killed me) would be to take note of the direction of the shot, then spawn in the MCC and go hunting. Most snipers won't leave their nest until a bullet or two convinces them otherwise. Take them out, then decide whether or not your team would be better off with you staying as a sniper/countersniper or rejoining the frontlines. Life is killing me.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4707	Posted - 2013.12.13 16:45:00 - [52] - Quote AP Grasshopper wrote: Cat Merc wrote: So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it. By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating. Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN. 6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map. This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken. I want my money back. Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had. I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. Why didnt you put a wall between you and the redline snipers? You deserved to die 5 more times. They weren't in the redline. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4707	Posted - 2013.12.13 16:46:00 - [53] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Next time just hide in a spot where they can't get LOS on you but you still have LOS on the hack terminal. So if someone goes to hack, you can kill them, but their snipers can't get you. Actually I was looking for such a place. It didn't exist. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 251	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:13:00 - [54] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: LT Dans Legs wrote: OP is stupid as crap, uhhhhh, dont use proto then if u DONT WANT TO LOSE IT. Stupidest thing I've heard all week. I think my IQ dropped a few points just reading it. Your IQ dropped for a different reason. I don't care about losing that proto suit, I lose them plenty in other ways, I care about how BS of a match that was. Cocaines a hell of a drug. Lmao
steadyhand amarr Scions of Athra 2093	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:14:00 - [55] - Quote The tldr op was stuiped and lost proto suits "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 812	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:26:00 - [56] - Quote Snipers have always been pathetic. They are a good thing to see on the other team, it means their spirits are broken. If you had the match in the bag why not let them out of their red line. personally, I call my guys off when the enemies break. I'd rather let them think they can do something. It keeps the sniper count down and my foe fight on my terms. I believe its called mercy. Controlling the battle field is better than red lining newbs.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 614	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:42:00 - [57] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it. By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating. Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN. 6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map. This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken. I want my money back. Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had. I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. Thats the point of a sniper you derp. they can hit you but you cant hit them. Do you even understand how war tactics work or are you one of those small children who think all things in life should be fair? Nothing in life is fair even in video games deal with it.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4707	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:46:00 - [58] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Cat Merc wrote: So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it. By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating. Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN. 6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map. This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken. I want my money back. Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had. I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. Thats the point of a sniper you derp. they can hit you but you cant hit them. Do you even understand how war tactics work or are you one of those small children who think all things in life should be fair? Nothing in life is fair even in video games deal with it. Too bad I play video games to have fun, and considering how many balance posts are on the forums, I think others are too. If something isn't fun, it needs to be fixed. I understand the point of snipers, however, there should be a way to come near them and kill them. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3753	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:55:00 - [59] - Quote Can you not counter-snipe? Buff Shotguns
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4708	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:57:00 - [60] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Can you not counter-snipe? Can you not understand that it's a broken mechanic if it takes rock to beat rock? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3753	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:59:00 - [61] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Can you not counter-snipe? Can you not understand that it's a broken mechanic if it takes rock to beat rock? Is it not possible to avoid rock? I really dont see a problem with the OA outpost, its not the worst for lack of cover, that reward would go to the Gallente Communications Outpost. Hate that facility. Buff Shotguns
Thumb Green Novashift 565	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:00:00 - [62] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I understand the point of snipers, however, there should be a way to come near them and kill them. But there is always a way to get to a sniper regardless of where they are. Never mind the president, let's overgrow the government.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8734	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:05:00 - [63] - Quote ::walks to Weapon Mart:: Hey Jim, you carry sniper rifles here? Well yea, but do you know how to use them? Pffft, just give me that crap the militia uses. Uhh, you sure, guys out there use some really top notch stuff... Jim.....Jim......I have a fat suit. ::Jim stares blankly:: It has a lot of armor, and is excellent for counter sniping. All I need is to land a headshot or two. ....Aaaaaaaaahhhh....gotcha...gotcha....very clever.... ::hands over sniper rifle:: Vids / O7
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR 1103	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:05:00 - [64] - Quote So let me get this shyt straight u proto stomp ateam till there redlined and u get mad because u cant kill them but they kill u hmmmmm sounds like a 12 year old . G£«OPEN THE MERCS QUARTERS :-D!!!!!!!!!!!!G£« Youtube Vids coming Soon
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 164	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:26:00 - [65] - Quote You could have just stayed in the building defending the objective or wherever it was. Theres rarely a base thats completely open to snipers save a few maps. Dedicated scout. New player tutor; scout instructor Scrambler Pistol dedication
IraqiFriendshipExplosive Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 52	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:34:00 - [66] - Quote How do you think those 17 guys you killed felt? You are moaning because you were sniped? I dont see where the issue is? Clarification maybe?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4711	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:38:00 - [67] - Quote IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote: How do you think those 17 guys you killed felt? You are moaning because you were sniped? I dont see where the issue is? Clarification maybe? I killed those guys in close combat, they had a chance. I didn't have a chance, I either let the enemy take over the outpost, or die to sniper fire. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1585	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:40:00 - [68] - Quote Caldaries just using their weapons, what's wrong with that? Making AV an actual role GÿåTank DriverGÿå
dreth longbow Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 19	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:49:00 - [69] - Quote Oh come on. Another person crying because the other team was getting proto-stomped and they came back with a way to make you pay for it. What would you rather them do keep running into your blender? Congrats to them for coming up with a way to make you pay for all the isk you cost them during the game and the frustration of getting killed so many times. They did what they should have done, try to win with better tactics against a better foe. Stop crying, they should be crying that they got proto-stomped. You are NOT ENTITLED to win with proto gear You are NOT ENTITLED to live with proto gear Think how they felt with all the stomping you were doing! Note: Yes I have proto gear, and yes it sucks to lose it, but you must expect to loose it when you use it. This is war! Edit: Then get a sniper fit, like I have.
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 478	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:57:00 - [70] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it. By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating. Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN. 6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map. This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken. I want my money back. Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had. I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. First, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=999109#post999109 Second, - Wrong forum and wrong attitude. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1600092#post1600092 Third, HTFU or GTFO and STFU Have a wonderful day scrub. Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter. Working as intended.

AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 220	Posted - 2013.12.13 19:09:00 - [71] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Can you not counter-snipe? Can you not understand that it's a broken mechanic if it takes rock to beat rock? Before 1.7 the only thing that could beat an AR was an AR...and it's basically the same right now. Only one of the rifle classes can beat another one of the rifle classes. What you're basically saying is you want to take away their range advantage. It's like us shotgunners complaining that we can't effectively use a shotgun because every scrub is using some AR racial variant that makes the requirements to use the shotgun too onerous.
Joel II X Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 321	Posted - 2013.12.13 19:25:00 - [72] - Quote Counter snipe, you fool! There's always a way!


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