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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4706
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:44:00 -
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Chewie Parker wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. why not retreat , leave them edge forward and then reattack when they come in close rangs ,,, common sense really It was inside a complex... If we retreat, they would have the entire thing.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
525
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Chewie Parker wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:You lost six proto suits to enemy snipers at the end of a match? 700 eHP, gone in two shots. Considering there were three snipers, IN ALL directions, there was literally no where to hide. why not retreat , leave them edge forward and then reattack when they come in close rangs ,,, common sense really It was inside a complex... If we retreat, they would have the entire thing.
But you said the match was over - you sounded like you wanted to keep redlining and they started to pick you off. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
546
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:58:00 -
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So the match was won and you kept getting killed because you had to stay by the points and all the snipers were killing you.
I don't buy that "there was nowhere to hide". Even if all rooftops are covered, there are places to hide in that socket. For one, you could hide in the Charlie hack terminal area. Or you could hide in the stairs area on the supply depot side of Alpha.
I also don't buy that a forge, or even multiple forgers, could cover dropship access to every roof. You might not be able to hover for very long, but if you approach the socket from the outside, you could at least get access to the ladder areas. Or just climb the ladders.
If you don't want to take the time to pry them out of their high spots, you shouldn't be complaining when they kill you from those high spots. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2213
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:59:00 -
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About two weeks ago I was fighting a domination in OA. I was first in to hack, laid out uplinks and hives and defended that place with my life for half the match. So, the enemy dropped snipers up in the ring tower and they started popping us like crazy. I spawned outside with my sniper rifle and started killing them as soon as they appeared and ended their sniper offensive.
Can you guess what happened next?
Yep. Some idiot blue doesn't like the fact that I'm outside in the hills with a sniper rifle, bothers to run all the way out there and starts whacking me and trying to drop LAVs on me.
// Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
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LT Dans Legs
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
251
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:02:00 -
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OP is stupid as crap, uhhhhh, dont use proto then if u DONT WANT TO LOSE IT. Stupidest thing I've heard all week. I think my IQ dropped a few points just reading it. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1448
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:05:00 -
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Don't take out what you can't afford to use.
Amarr
My OB Kills
Selling Templar BPO
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Adelia Lafayette
DUST University Ivy League
478
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:11:00 -
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I killed a heavy suit hiding in the redline on a tower once. Flew a dropship in with a scanner to find him and jumped out and shotguned him to death. It felt good. Militia scanner on a dropship is great for finding snipers.
Assault dropship gets blown up....
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"...
..."I'm back"
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
547
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:12:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Don't take out what you can't afford to use.
And since Cat can afford to lose it, don't complain when you do. |
LT Dans Legs
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
251
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:13:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Don't take out what you can't afford to use. Exactly. Nobody made you use proto suits over and over. Or even once for that matter. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
547
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:19:00 -
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Which begs the question - at what point do you have enough ISK to feel like running proto all the time, no matter how many deaths you get?
I have a pretty good chunk of ISK but I'm still reluctant to go proto more than 20-30% of the time... |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2214
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:21:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Which begs the question - at what point do you have enough ISK to feel like running proto all the time, no matter how many deaths you get?
I have a pretty good chunk of ISK but I'm still reluctant to go pro to more than 20-30% of the time...
I feel the same way. I could lose prototypes for a long time but I rarely bring one to a match.
// Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1450
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:32:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Which begs the question - at what point do you have enough ISK to feel like running proto all the time, no matter how many deaths you get?
I have a pretty good chunk of ISK but I'm still reluctant to go proto more than 20-30% of the time...
I'm filthy rich and I still don't like to wear proto 100% of the time because adv is not that much worse than proto so I am drawn to it.
Amarr
My OB Kills
Selling Templar BPO
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance
600
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:38:00 -
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DOn't run what you can't afford to loose. What is they had EVE support? no amount of proto can save you from that.
Also, 6 times? if your winning then why not go with free suits and wait it out
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4707
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:39:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:OP is stupid as crap, uhhhhh, dont use proto then if u DONT WANT TO LOSE IT. Stupidest thing I've heard all week. I think my IQ dropped a few points just reading it. Your IQ dropped for a different reason. I don't care about losing that proto suit, I lose them plenty in other ways, I care about how BS of a match that was.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4707
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:40:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Which begs the question - at what point do you have enough ISK to feel like running proto all the time, no matter how many deaths you get?
I have a pretty good chunk of ISK but I'm still reluctant to go proto more than 20-30% of the time... 150 mil ISK for me.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Sophie DV
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
12
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:48:00 -
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You realize that snipers dont go around capping points, right? You realize they have a hard time as a single sniper killing people before they get back to cover, right?
Honestly, you're whining about dying after you redline a team? How do you think it feels to be redlined and you can't use any short/mid range weapons effectively due to being outnumbered? Can you blame them for switching to a gun that can actually hit you?
Man up already.
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
836
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it.
By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating.
Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN.
6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map.
This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken.
I want my money back.
Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had.
I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. Get yourself a good sniper fit and hide in a corner...
CCP, promoting exploits with every update
LOL Commando
LOL Plasma Cannon
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4707
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:56:00 -
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Sophie DV wrote:You realize that snipers dont go around capping points, right? You realize they have a hard time as a single sniper killing people before they get back to cover, right?
Honestly, you're whining about dying after you redline a team? How do you think it feels to be redlined and you can't use any short/mid range weapons effectively due to being outnumbered? Can you blame them for switching to a gun that can actually hit you?
Man up already.
I am FAR from their redline. In fact my whole team is, we are on points, protecting them.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
548
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:16:00 -
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Next time just hide in a spot where they can't get LOS on you but you still have LOS on the hack terminal. So if someone goes to hack, you can kill them, but their snipers can't get you. |
AP Grasshopper
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
57
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it.
By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating.
Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN.
6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map.
This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken.
I want my money back.
Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had.
I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit.
Why didnt you put a wall between you and the redline snipers? You deserved to die 5 more times. |
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
340
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sophie DV wrote:You realize that snipers dont go around capping points, right? You realize they have a hard time as a single sniper killing people before they get back to cover, right?
Honestly, you're whining about dying after you redline a team? How do you think it feels to be redlined and you can't use any short/mid range weapons effectively due to being outnumbered? Can you blame them for switching to a gun that can actually hit you?
Man up already.
I am FAR from their redline. In fact my whole team is, we are on points, protecting them.
As someone who plays as a sniper on a regular basis, the first thing I'd do once I was killed (and saw what weapon it was that killed me) would be to take note of the direction of the shot, then spawn in the MCC and go hunting. Most snipers won't leave their nest until a bullet or two convinces them otherwise. Take them out, then decide whether or not your team would be better off with you staying as a sniper/countersniper or rejoining the frontlines.
Life is killing me.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4707
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:45:00 -
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AP Grasshopper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it.
By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating.
Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN.
6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map.
This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken.
I want my money back.
Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had.
I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. Why didnt you put a wall between you and the redline snipers? You deserved to die 5 more times. They weren't in the redline.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4707
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:46:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Next time just hide in a spot where they can't get LOS on you but you still have LOS on the hack terminal. So if someone goes to hack, you can kill them, but their snipers can't get you. Actually I was looking for such a place. It didn't exist.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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LT Dans Legs
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
251
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:LT Dans Legs wrote:OP is stupid as crap, uhhhhh, dont use proto then if u DONT WANT TO LOSE IT. Stupidest thing I've heard all week. I think my IQ dropped a few points just reading it. Your IQ dropped for a different reason. I don't care about losing that proto suit, I lose them plenty in other ways, I care about how BS of a match that was. Cocaines a hell of a drug. Lmao |
steadyhand amarr
Scions of Athra
2093
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:14:00 -
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The tldr op was stuiped and lost proto suits
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
812
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:26:00 -
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Snipers have always been pathetic. They are a good thing to see on the other team, it means their spirits are broken. If you had the match in the bag why not let them out of their red line.
personally, I call my guys off when the enemies break. I'd rather let them think they can do something. It keeps the sniper count down and my foe fight on my terms. I believe its called mercy. Controlling the battle field is better than red lining newbs. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
614
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:42:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it.
By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating.
Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN.
6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map.
This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken.
I want my money back.
Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had.
I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. Thats the point of a sniper you derp. they can hit you but you cant hit them. Do you even understand how war tactics work or are you one of those small children who think all things in life should be fair? Nothing in life is fair even in video games deal with it. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4707
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:46:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So I was going around in Gal FW, using my Proto suit because the Federation deserves it.
By the very end of the match, I killed 17 people and died not once, and my team was dominating.
Then they realized they can't win, so they switched to snipers. ORBITAL ARTILLERY IS SNIPER HEAVEN.
6 deaths, just like that, to a point and shoot gun that you can't retaliate against in this map.
This is broken, if you can't retaliate, the sniper is broken.
I want my money back.
Edit: You guys missed the point. I'm not complaining about losing proto suits, I am complaining about how BS of a position those snipers had.
I could bring STD suits and I would say the exact same thing - That was bullshit. Thats the point of a sniper you derp. they can hit you but you cant hit them. Do you even understand how war tactics work or are you one of those small children who think all things in life should be fair? Nothing in life is fair even in video games deal with it. Too bad I play video games to have fun, and considering how many balance posts are on the forums, I think others are too. If something isn't fun, it needs to be fixed.
I understand the point of snipers, however, there should be a way to come near them and kill them.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
3753
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:55:00 -
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Can you not counter-snipe?
Buff Shotguns
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4708
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:57:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Can you not counter-snipe? Can you not understand that it's a broken mechanic if it takes rock to beat rock?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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