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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

Flix Keptick wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

speed is only 1 issue which is in our faces at the moment. wait till its fixed and the main issue will be that tanks and especially dropships are still almost indestructible. if 3 proto swarms with stacked damage mods cant take out a stationary dropship then something is wrong

there is a major issue with the fact av now has a tiny range compared to a map ceiling of over 1000m and on some maps the span is probably double if not more than that. but all vehicles can run effectively outside the ranges of all av making it all pretty much useless.

Dropships have suffered a lot in the past, let them be. Besides, only a handfull of extremely skilled pilots can make them really dangerous

its a dropship.... the cargo is what's meant to be dangerous not the ship itself. the whole point is to get in fast...drop the cargo and leave, hence its called a dropship not a heavy bomber. its not meant to sit there hovering sniping at anything on the ground that moves while every piece of av on the ground is shooting at them doing little to no damage, that is if they can actually get in range.

i know of a few tankers who made do with the so called weak tank from before 1.7 yet dominated almost every game. i guess they are still happy because now they can do it without any risk off death. i also know of 1 who always ran with crew but now with the changes he could barely fit a tank of any use and if he even attempts to allow crew in his vehicle it puts him at a disadvantage to all other tanks who don't allow for crew. come to think of it last i saw of him was him trying to fit a tank and then he logged off. not seen him since.

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Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1864	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:51:00 - [31] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Why not work with vehicles. All this drama splits our community apart. WHAT????? They're people too, work with them, they might concede and say that AV needs some Buffs. Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a normal person, if I seem like a douche it's because I hate 90% of people on these forums
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1865	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:00:00 - [32] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cosgar wrote: Why not work with vehicles. All this drama splits our community apart. Yeah why didnt VEHICLE DRIVERS/PILOTS do that instead of whining for months? Double standards.... They couldn't R*'s tank team was the closest thing to that and they had limited effectiveness due to the bad situation tanks were in, Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a normal person, if I seem like a douche it's because I hate 90% of people on these forums
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 620	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:03:00 - [33] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: speed is only 1 issue which is in our faces at the moment. wait till its fixed and the main issue will be that tanks and especially dropships are still almost indestructible. if 3 proto swarms with stacked damage mods cant take out a stationary dropship then something is wrong there is a major issue with the fact av now has a tiny range compared to a map ceiling of over 1000m and on some maps the span is probably double if not more than that. but all vehicles can run effectively outside the ranges of all av making it all pretty much useless. Dropships have suffered a lot in the past, let them be. Besides, only a handfull of extremely skilled pilots can make them really dangerous its a dropship.... the cargo is what's meant to be dangerous not the ship itself. the whole point is to get in fast...drop the cargo and leave, hence its called a dropship not a heavy bomber. its not meant to sit there hovering sniping at anything on the ground that moves while every piece of av on the ground is shooting at them doing little to no damage, that is if they can actually get in range. i know of a few tankers who made do with the so called weak tank from before 1.7 yet dominated almost every game. i guess they are still happy because now they can do it without any risk off death. i also know of 1 who always ran with crew but now with the changes he could barely fit a tank of any use and if he even attempts to allow crew in his vehicle it puts him at a disadvantage to all other tanks who don't allow for crew. come to think of it last i saw of him was him trying to fit a tank and then he logged off. not seen him since. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3040	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:26:00 - [34] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: They couldn't R's tank team was the closest thing to that and they had limited effectiveness due to the bad situation tanks were in, Tanks WERE NOT IN A BAD STATE before 1.7.* Thats a Lie and a Forum legend used to make CCP nerf AV. Tanks , at least ARMOR tanks were badass and could take a LOT of AV fire and still survive easily. They just needed to make the Armor repair Glitch NOT a glitch, and make Shield tanks equally strong and everybody would be happy. But no. My Maddry with 7k EHP and 60 % damage resistance and insane repair per second got killed once in 10 games? Better go QQ in the forums... SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Shokhann Echo Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 124	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:32:00 - [35] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Killar-12 wrote: They couldn't R's tank team was the closest thing to that and they had limited effectiveness due to the bad situation tanks were in, Tanks WERE NOT IN A BAD STATE before 1.7.* Thats a Lie and a Forum legend used to make CCP nerf AV. Tanks , at least ARMOR tanks were badass and could take a LOT of AV fire and still survive easily. They just needed to make the Armor repair Glitch NOT a glitch, and make Shield tanks equally strong and everybody would be happy. But no. My Maddry with 7k EHP and 60 % damage resistance and insane repair per second got killed once in 10 games? Better go QQ in the forums... forum legend???? Void Echo's Alt Back-up Profile Back on main 12-20-2013
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1919	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:32:00 - [36] - Quote o7 DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
CharCharOdell 1728	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:36:00 - [37] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cosgar wrote: Why not work with vehicles. All this drama splits our community apart. Yeah why didnt VEHICLE DRIVERS/PILOTS do that instead of whining for months? Double standards.... We did but then yall would whine about us getting 30/0 Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3041	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:37:00 - [38] - Quote I mean seriously. I bought 10 somas I put on them: GÖª MLT Armor Hardener GÖª (LEFT) the MLT armor repairer GÖª MLT Active scanner GÖª MLT Afterburner (AKA JUMP GATE) I had 10 of these tanks that cost the same or LESS than a PROTO DROPSUIT. I used them in many matches. At least 10. Lost 1. Destroyed 2 Maddys, 2 Gunnos and around 10 MLT tanks. welcome to godmode, TANK514.... SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3041	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:38:00 - [39] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cosgar wrote: Why not work with vehicles. All this drama splits our community apart. Yeah why didnt VEHICLE DRIVERS/PILOTS do that instead of whining for months? Double standards.... We did but then yall would whine about us getting 30/0 nope. Nobody whinned about a tanks going 30-0 with teamwork. Its when it was the TANKER alone. Do not change FACTs to better suit the protection of the CRUTCH.... SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 214	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:39:00 - [40] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cosgar wrote: Why not work with vehicles. All this drama splits our community apart. Yeah why didnt VEHICLE DRIVERS/PILOTS do that instead of whining for months? Double standards.... Message from Godin: I know I tried. Half the time, you ***** are useless peices of that won't aim and shoot at a AV'er, even if you have a clear shot. Anyways, simple: grab a LAV, a swarm (wiki swarm for best effect), fluxes, FL, and a nanohive. Follow around the prey, wait until the hardeners go off, go straight towards it, hop out, and blast the ****. Works every time.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1920	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:41:00 - [41] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: It's a refreshing change to whoever has the most gal logis. Don't forget quality > quantity, I took on two tanks earlier and still won Not really. Quantity>Quality. Why? Because your vehicle cannot withstand a squad of Sicas firing Railguns into you. And even if you could, the most you can fire at is 3, so when you pop some I can just call in three more. All in all, that would never cost me more than 400k. GalLogis? At least I didn't have to be a Logi to kill a GalLogi. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1920	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:43:00 - [42] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: you know. lavs have more hp than RE's right. lavs have roughly.... i would 2k ehp. your RE has what 10?. so i can theritcally OHK your Lav by shooting your RE. and your RE's are clearly visable markers on your LAV. so. when i shoot the RE on your lav and blow it up. you know i get the kill rgiht. and my blaster shoots/tracks faster than you can get to me. soooooo. please continue to sucide at my blaster tank with your usless tatic. Yes, but you can't fire at multipule LAVs. When 6 Jihad Jeeps flank from all sides, you going down. End of story. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3041	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:48:00 - [43] - Quote Atiim wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: you know. lavs have more hp than RE's right. lavs have roughly.... i would 2k ehp. your RE has what 10?. so i can theritcally OHK your Lav by shooting your RE. and your RE's are clearly visable markers on your LAV. so. when i shoot the RE on your lav and blow it up. you know i get the kill rgiht. and my blaster shoots/tracks faster than you can get to me. soooooo. please continue to sucide at my blaster tank with your usless tatic. Yes, but you can't fire at multipule LAVs. When 6 Jihad Jeeps flank from all sides, you going down. End of story. It shouldnt take so much to takle down a tank hat might cost less than a proto suit........ SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1923	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:49:00 - [44] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Seriously, why do you hate vehicles so much? We don't hate vehicles. What we do hate however, are vehicles becoming a FoTM so big that the only way to deal with the FoTM would be to use that FoTM, which would do nothing but contribute to said FoTM while advertising said FoTM at the same time. I do hate the pilots though. Especially the ones who cried like CoD scrubs and spread BS lies everywhere when they realized that they couldn't go solo entire teams with no risk what whatsoever. But hey, now it's our turn. And AUR from infantry is where this game's big bucks are spent. So when CCP sees the huge hole in their pockets what do you think they will do? I can guarantee that you will be begging for 1.6 back by the end of this. Also, is it strange how apparently I who has supposedly never used a tank before could easily survive PRO AV, yet the proclaimed vets couldn't? Very strange indeed. (Pre 1.6) DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1923	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:52:00 - [45] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: When 6 Jihad Jeeps flank from all sides, you going down. End of story. It shouldn't take so much to tackle down a tank hat might cost less than a proto suit........ As long as HAVs don't require teamwork, it shouldn't take more than one. You can't have teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me. That's called balance pilots. Then again, I doubt you comprehend the term balance. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 427	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:53:00 - [46] - Quote Sounds like we are back to chrome days, whoever has the most tanks wins, yay for whiny useless bastards who can only do anything with about 3 feet of steel between them and the guy with a gun bringing back their power houses.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1205	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:57:00 - [47] - Quote Im in, I have 10 rail tanks ready! New Logi suit with 3 RE and proto hive! Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3044	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:57:00 - [48] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Sounds like we are back to chrome days, whoever has the most tanks wins, yay for whiny useless bastards who can only do anything with about 3 feet of steel between them and the guy with a gun bringing back their power houses. +1 SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3044	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:58:00 - [49] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Im in, I have 10 rail tanks ready! New Logi suit with 3 RE and proto hive! HEH freakn tanks are OP LOL, i murdered like 3 LAV's in a row with hardeners on and my Omega SPEED Afterburner , just run them over! Im thinking of a new OP Murdertaxi fit for my soma..... SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Our Deepest Regret The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 355	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:59:00 - [50] - Quote Atiim wrote: We don't hate vehicles. What we do hate however, are vehicles becoming a FoTM so big that the only way to deal with the FoTM would be to use that FoTM, which would do nothing but contribute to said FoTM while advertising said FoTM at the same time. I do hate the pilots though. Especially the ones who cried like CoD scrubs and spread BS lies everywhere when they realized that they couldn't go solo entire teams with no risk what whatsoever. But hey, now it's our turn. And AUR from infantry is where this game's big bucks are spent. So when CCP sees the huge hole in their pockets what do you think they will do? I can guarantee that you will be begging for 1.6 back by the end of this. Also, is it strange how apparently I who has supposedly never used a tank before could easily survive PRO AV, yet the proclaimed vets couldn't? Very strange indeed. (Pre 1.6) Attim, you seem like a charismatic guy. What's so hard about recruiting an AV-tank squad? I love blowing up other tanks. It's way more fun going 5-2 in a match against good tankers, than 300-0 against a bunch of people who can't fight back.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1923	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:02:00 - [51] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Why not work with vehicles. All this drama splits our community apart. Why would anyone work with vehicles? They currently require no teamwork, and when used solo can provide the same performance as a full squad. They also require a full squad to destroy. And I'll work with other pilots when they stop whining like COD B!tches when they can't go inside a vehicle solo and return with a score of 60/0 with no risk or skill whatsoever. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
The Attorney General 1626	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:02:00 - [52] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Sounds like we are back to chrome days, whoever has the most tanks wins, yay for whiny useless bastards who can only do anything with about 3 feet of steel between them and the guy with a gun bringing back their power houses. Better than a bunch of mouth breathers hiding on towers spamming missiles that do all the work for them. Oh wait, those guys are hardcore right? Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
The Attorney General 1626	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:04:00 - [53] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cosgar wrote: Why not work with vehicles. All this drama splits our community apart. Why would anyone work with vehicles? They currently require no teamwork, and when used solo can provide the same performance as a full squad. They also require a full squad to destroy. And I'll work with other pilots when they stop whining like COD B!tches when they can't go inside a vehicle solo and return with a score of 60/0 with no risk or skill whatsoever. If it takes a full squad to destroy a tank, you are doing it wrong. Get better. Tanks have always required teamwork, now more than ever. You may not understand why, but that is ok, stupid people never get it no matter how much you explain it to them. Vehicle users tried to have rational conversations about AV, but you guys put your fingers in your ears and screamed that everything was fine. This is your result. Expect no sympathy. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 427	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:06:00 - [54] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: SgtDoughnut wrote: Sounds like we are back to chrome days, whoever has the most tanks wins, yay for whiny useless bastards who can only do anything with about 3 feet of steel between them and the guy with a gun bringing back their power houses. Better than a bunch of mouth breathers hiding on towers spamming missiles that do all the work for them. Oh wait, those guys are hardcore right? Gotta love the guys who need a giant metal crutch to play a game and anything at all that can even hurt them turns eveyone who uses them into mouth breathers.
The Attorney General 1626	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:14:00 - [55] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Gotta love the guys who need a giant metal crutch to play a game and anything at all that can even hurt them turns eveyone who uses them into mouth breathers. If you were half as manly as you are pretending to be, you would have done what real men do and gone and done a tour somewhere. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1923	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:17:00 - [56] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: If it takes a full squad to destroy a tank, you are doing it wrong. Get better. Tanks have always required teamwork, now more than ever. You may not understand why, but that is ok, stupid people never get it no matter how much you explain it to them. Vehicle users tried to have rational conversations about AV, but you guys put your fingers in your ears and screamed that everything was fine. This is your result. Expect no sympathy. If you got easily soloed by AV back in 1.6, then you were doing it wrong. Get better. Okay. Tell me what teamwork does a tank require. I went into a few matches yesterday and pulled out scores of 30/0 while I was a blueberry. How is that teamwork? Rational conversations? Please, link one. All pilots have ever said was "Waahhh Wahh. I get OHK'd by MLT AV" "Waahhh Waaah, AV should require teamwork" "Waaah Waaaah. Vehicles shouldn't require teamwork". And insert more QQ here. Sympathy. LOL. Infantry and AV ARE the community. What does DUST 514's revenue come from? Definitely not people buying AUR vehicles. We don't require sympathy because we are this community. We assign "sympathy". Pilots? They are a literal sub-section of this game's playerbase. For every 1 pilot there are 32 more people who are infantry. This ain't Tank 514. And it is a First Person Shooter. Not vehicle simulator. Sorry This is not our result. You haven't even seen us get started yet. And our true result will make you cry for 1.6. Your claim and case is faulty General. And no Attorney will save the case. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1553	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:18:00 - [57] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: speed is only 1 issue which is in our faces at the moment. wait till its fixed and the main issue will be that tanks and especially dropships are still almost indestructible. if 3 proto swarms with stacked damage mods cant take out a stationary dropship then something is wrong there is a major issue with the fact av now has a tiny range compared to a map ceiling of over 1000m and on some maps the span is probably double if not more than that. but all vehicles can run effectively outside the ranges of all av making it all pretty much useless. Dropships have suffered a lot in the past, let them be. Besides, only a handfull of extremely skilled pilots can make them really dangerous its a dropship.... the cargo is what's meant to be dangerous not the ship itself. the whole point is to get in fast...drop the cargo and leave, hence its called a dropship not a heavy bomber. its not meant to sit there hovering sniping at anything on the ground that moves while every piece of av on the ground is shooting at them doing little to no damage, that is if they can actually get in range. i know of a few tankers who made do with the so called weak tank from before 1.7 yet dominated almost every game. i guess they are still happy because now they can do it without any risk off death. i also know of 1 who always ran with crew but now with the changes he could barely fit a tank of any use and if he even attempts to allow crew in his vehicle it puts him at a disadvantage to all other tanks who don't allow for crew. come to think of it last i saw of him was him trying to fit a tank and then he logged off. not seen him since. I meant assault dropships Making AV an actual role GÿåTank DriverGÿå
Our Deepest Regret The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 355	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:19:00 - [58] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Gotta love the guys who need a giant metal crutch to play a game and anything at all that can even hurt them turns eveyone who uses them into mouth breathers. Oh, shut up. You're in EoN, you've got a bunch of quality tankers there. Do they even know you spend so much time sh*t-talking their play style?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1924	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:19:00 - [59] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Better than a bunch of mouth breathers hiding on towers spamming missiles that do all the work for them. Oh wait, those guys are hardcore right? As if HAVs required any actual skills DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1274	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:20:00 - [60] - Quote Ace, you've got to look out for my jihad jeep in FW once the fix comes around. Until then, I will be speeding into tanks in pubs while screaming "You die for St. Arzad!!!!!!!" over comms Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta



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