You can ask Pearson. He was with me. He got pissed as I stole one of his kills, and drove off in my LAV, and he chased after he. Something about squishing me. I think it was a Sica. a little bit after, I saved his life by switching to a Scout Shotty, and killing a forge for him, so it was all good . As for the Map dependent, this was the vehicle god map since ever, Manus Peaks, and it's FW, so I would assume that my team is doing something. Plus, if your team is getting stomped on both fronts, and you're still trying to do your job and expect to win:

1: That dedication, sweet

2: That foolishness, lol

Message from Godin: There's nothing wrong with AV. AV is perfect. It's just that Av'ers are not adapting, as they are absolutely horrible at it. They want to do what they've been doing, and they expect to get the kill. Well, it won't work. Make new tactics, and you might kill them. Hint, hit them while the hardeners are down.

Note: Not everybody uses those cheap ass MLT nitro's. I sure don't. Complex nitro for me, as I'd rather run longer than faster.


Peace, Godin

Message from Godin: I was armed nothing but wiki swarms, a Toxin, a nanohive (quantum), some fluxes, and a Methana. In one match, I slain 8 vehicles all by myself. over half (5) were HAV's. Get good, AV's easy. just got to have skill and luck, just like in EVE.

I hit an ADS in cooldown today with 3 shots from my Wyr. Breach FG (Prof. 3, 2 Cx Dmg Mods). Took it down to half armor then it flew to it's redline (not to get out, but to resupply) then was back fully repped and tearing up the team. My FG couldn't even scratch it with its hardeners on.

Message to Godin:
You are and have always been a Biased TANKER.Of course you think AV weapons are GOOD, because they SUCK.

If you are not using the BROKEN MLT A.B. good for you,but everyone else is.

''make new tactics?'' Nah, lets just do the same that TANKERS did, and QQ until CCP nerfs tanks .
Have fun while it lasts


King Checkmate ..I.. (-.-) ..I..

hah that was me, cause I killed ya.

Haha yea you guys were in that match! Thanks for corroborating!

Oh so you were playing with a squad.
hmm.
Interesting. I would love to put you ALONE in FW vs 10 organized Corp memeber with 7 tanks see how many you bring down, with all the infantry shooting at you,scanners giving our your position, and Blitzkrieg tanks closing up on you while you cant deal any damage at all.

Teamwork = OP? yes of course
Should it be NECESSARY to play in a team in order to have fun? NO.

You seem someone that knows a lot about Dust. But you get confused really easily. manus peaks is an AV map.makes AV'ing Easy. NOT TANK. AV.
Try LINE HARVEST or Ash land. Maps where tanks have Cover every 20 mts.

Manus Peaks, Pfft. Joke.

3. Your dilussions of greatness? Sad

Let me guess most were militia (Or stupid)? I've destroyed quite a few militia tanks. I've destroyed about 2 or 3 standard tanks with my proto swarms with prof 4 and three complex damage mods although I don't get much of a profit though since I have to get too close and end up being killed by either infantry or a tank (Especially since tanks have been getting spammed like crazy). Also not to mention as soon as I start hitting a tank it either a. runs away to where I cant lock on or b. runs away and recalls vehicle. Also I've always waited until modules were on cooldown even before 1.7 unless it was a militia tank. Any worthwhile AVer did that.

Message from Godin: They were all Tech 1 and 2 vehicles-

3 Gunnlogi's
2 Maddy's
a Python
a Grimseies
a State Saga

Also, you're right; they don't pay enough for it. All I got was 248k for killing all that **** and WP's either really.

That's the thing though if you can't make a profit as efficiently as another class then why would you want to play the class if you can't afford to keep playing it when there are other classes that make 2x more isk for the same or sometimes even less effort? (Of course there are people who play what they enjoy like me though but that enjoyment starts fading once you realize you can't be near as effective since you're losing too much money to run effective fits. Tankers should already know how that feels. Also I've been an AV specialist since the E3 build)

Message from Godin:

1: Manus Peaks is a baller vehicle map. no city socket=vehicles can see you

2:We weren't working togetherif that's what you were getting at. Just talking and stuff. At one point, we did, but that was one game, and I wasn't AVing or piloting anymore, just ground pounding with the Chromosome Scouts again.

3:The 5 pilots were working together. At one point, I had to scare them away from each other. It was very hard, but I pulled it off.

4: I ******* hate Ash Land. Line Harvest is #2 because of the obj's having blind spots, but being mainly open.

note: The best vehicle map was the skirmish 1.0 map, hands down.

1- Nope. You can just get on a mountain with a FG . Its not hard. You see all the map. GG tanks... (i mean if my Breach FG could do some damage ...).So if i can see this and you cant.....

2-Then good for you for being the allmighty god of both AV and weaponry. Still:
a)requiring to be god mode player in order to effectivley AV is not balanced in any way.
b)Being a Pro-tanker with a god complex that will say anything in order to get what he wants or sound smart even going as far as asking players to lie for you (not saying you have, just saying you would), i will call BS on your previous tale.

3-Sure

4-Ashaland and line harvest are the 2 most OP tank maps. I've said it.

AV is useless. Tankers are the new FOTM.