Easier said than done when there is 2 Blaster HAVs circling underneath the Helipad I'm on like sharks, a Rail tank sniping at me from 400 M away, and a ADS Hovering over my head firing Missiles at me while I try to charge my ridiculously nerfed into oblivion Forge Gun.

Message to Godin:
You are and have always been a Biased TANKER.Of course you think AV weapons are GOOD, because they SUCK.

If you are not using the BROKEN MLT A.B. good for you,but everyone else is.

''make new tactics?'' Nah, lets just do the same that TANKERS did, and QQ until CCP nerfs tanks .
Have fun while it lasts


King Checkmate ..I.. (-.-) ..I..

He activated his Repper midway through my 3rd charge up, but for all of the trade offs that come with the Breach FG, I would say that is one weapon that should be able to take out a DS or Tank in 2 Hits MAX.

****, a Large Rail Turret can now fire 3 shots in the time it takes to charge the Breach FG one time, plus they can hit from over 400m away.

So you tell me what is off balance.

GÖª Map dependant / there are maps where tanks will 100% of the time have the chance to flee
GÖª Team dependant / You need a team taht can AT LEAST keep busy the enemy infantry for enough time to go for the kill
GÖª Opinion: Null / Your opinion is worthless to me since you'll say whatever lies you can in order to keep balance in favor of vehicles.

cut hardeners and damage mods for vehicles in half?

this makes them weaker.. although theres really no major need for em any way other than to survive a volley of missiles from a large missile turret. or multiple railgun rounds.

what would u rather see.. tanks running around with more than 5k possibly 6k armor. or cycling active armor resistance modules?

Rendering is a separate issue.

While I do understand rendering may sometimes be a problem, it doesn't seem to be a problem when I get hit by a Railtank that is a good 300m past the Redline which I had no idea was even there. The farthest I have been hit by these is about 460m. That is 160m farther away than the FG is capable of dealing damage, with 3x the rate of fire...

Well, like you said, Rail vs FG needs to be looked at, especially considering the FG is a Railgun. Thanks for acknowledging that, most HAV drivers would just spout some stupid recycled catchphrase.

Oh so you were playing with a squad.
hmm.
Interesting. I would love to put you ALONE in FW vs 10 organized Corp memeber with 7 tanks see how many you bring down, with all the infantry shooting at you,scanners giving our your position, and Blitzkrieg tanks closing up on you while you cant deal any damage at all.

Teamwork = OP? yes of course
Should it be NECESSARY to play in a team in order to have fun? NO.

You seem someone that knows a lot about Dust. But you get confused really easily. manus peaks is an AV map.makes AV'ing Easy. NOT TANK. AV.
Try LINE HARVEST or Ash land. Maps where tanks have Cover every 20 mts.

Manus Peaks, Pfft. Joke.

3. Your dilussions of greatness? Sad

Let me guess most were militia (Or stupid)? I've destroyed quite a few militia tanks. I've destroyed about 2 or 3 standard tanks with my proto swarms with prof 4 and three complex damage mods although I don't get much of a profit though since I have to get too close and end up being killed by either infantry or a tank (Especially since tanks have been getting spammed like crazy). Also not to mention as soon as I start hitting a tank it either a. runs away to where I cant lock on or b. runs away and recalls vehicle. Also I've always waited until modules were on cooldown even before 1.7 unless it was a militia tank. Any worthwhile AVer did that.

That's the thing though if you can't make a profit as efficiently as another class then why would you want to play the class if you can't afford to keep playing it when there are other classes that make 2x more isk for the same or sometimes even less effort? (Of course there are people who play what they enjoy like me though but that enjoyment starts fading once you realize you can't be near as effective since you're losing too much money to run effective fits. Tankers should already know how that feels. Also I've been an AV specialist since the E3 build)

1- Nope. You can just get on a mountain with a FG . Its not hard. You see all the map. GG tanks... (i mean if my Breach FG could do some damage ...).So if i can see this and you cant.....

2-Then good for you for being the allmighty god of both AV and weaponry. Still:
a)requiring to be god mode player in order to effectivley AV is not balanced in any way.
b)Being a Pro-tanker with a god complex that will say anything in order to get what he wants or sound smart even going as far as asking players to lie for you (not saying you have, just saying you would), i will call BS on your previous tale.

3-Sure

4-Ashaland and line harvest are the 2 most OP tank maps. I've said it.

AV is useless. Tankers are the new FOTM.