None of you ever provide a reason as to why tanks shouldn't be their own best counter.

Let's play rock, paper scissors guys! Here are the rules:

Rock beats scissors, paper and can only lose to Rock.
Paper loses to scissors and rock, and ties paper.
Scissors lose to rock, beat paper, and tie scissors.

Who wants to play? I'll even give you a hint: I'm throwing Rock every time.

This was never an infantry-only or vehicle-only game. That kind of mindset poisoned the whole playerbase, and led to the near lifetime of nerfs that tanks suffered.

Also, how is it unfair to force you to take out AV? That's a childish thing to say.

forget AV get a Jihad jeep. 2 sets of remote explosives (6 RE'S) deal 9000HP explosive damage which means it deals 11700HP damage against armor. Not even a repair rate of 1000HP/s will save you from that insane high alpha damage. You can top it aswell with a 3rd set of remote explosives but thats overkill in my opinion.

As it stands now you only need 1 player to take out any kind of tank and that with a low SP and ISK investment.

Let's play rock, paper scissors guys! Here are the rules:

Rock beats scissors, paper and can only lose to Rock.
Paper loses to scissors and rock, and ties paper.
Scissors lose to rock, beat paper, and tie scissors.

Who wants to play? I'll even give you a hint: I'm throwing Rock every time.

why are you guys wasting your breath talking about tank balance when there's (at least) one huge bug?

you think tanks are supposed to just shoot off like the road runner when something spooks them? do you think it's intended design for tanks to out run AV grenades and swarms?

quote the devs all you want, but do you really think they intentionally designed a MIL mod to provide 100% speed boost when the complex version gives 30%?

or maybe.......... IT'S A BUG.

Scrubs are the people who care too much about their K/D , has ego problems and confuse dust for just another lobby shooter , I think their exodus from dust would be a positive.

But then again not all people who have k/d is a scrub , majority of them are.

Interesting idea. Or maybe longer cooldowns on the modules? I don't know why, but it seems that shields regenerate passively even though hit by swarms.... not sure if this was intended or not?

Also based on my experiences yesterday I hardly ever saw anyone switch to swarms when tanks appeared, in 1.6 the second a tank appeared people would switch to proto swarms thinking oh goody 150WP (I did this as well) yesterday I have seen very few people switch to AV now this could be due to a few reasons, maybe people are too busy playing with the new rifles to switch to AV, or people have seen the swarm nerf and decided swarms are useless now and don't even try.

Look im not saying there isnt balance issue. God dont get me started.

All I am saying, hand on heart is that with my character - CommanderBolt , earlier this morning I joined into a random pub match and to begin with it was me and one other dude vs like 4 tanks.

As the match progressed more people joined. I decided I needed something to deal with the tanks so i ran to the nearest supply depot and got out my forge gun suit.

First tank was driving past my position, charge.... hit. 2nd charge..... hit, 3rd charge and he blew up.

second tank was being called in (Might have even been the same guy) 1st and 2nd shots hit him while it was still being dropped off via RDV, 3rd hit blew him up just as he got in.

Third tank was mobile, had no idea where I was, 3 shots ALL in his rear end, I was surprised I got this one as I thought he had pulled enough range.

4th tank I KNOW i had help from someone else as in-between my forge shots the tank was losing chunks of health.

Forge gunning is the ONLY viable way to kill tanks as far as I can see. Then I have always thought forges are the bets weapon all round if I'm honest.

I was obviously lucky, but if CCP can dig up the battle records I would be happy to prove I got the 3 tank kills with a 4th being shared. It is not impossible to kill tanks, HOWEVER if the tanker knows where you are he can probably just drive away with that crazy F1 car speed!!