DUST Search - Sniping Problem.

DJINN Jecture wrote:

Patrick57 wrote:

Ku Shala wrote:

stop sniping 400m away from anyone and start being an active part of battle.

the covent sniper is my new fav. it free its deadly and on an assault suit you can still hack objectives, it even works in tunnels underground, aim for heads (very easy at <200m ) shoot and move on .make sure your can give a good sprint though and have that side arm ready.

I do miss camping, looking down my scope the whole match killing 30+ mercs

Only people that don't use a Charge or Thale's are useless.

Well that's too bad, my countersnipe rifle of choice is the C-27N Specialist Sniper Rifle, but my Nova Knives work just as well to kill snipers as do my grenades or SR/AR/CR/MD, in fact snipers are my favorite targets. There is nothing quite so satisfying as seeing a sniper go down. Not even when I find a Proto Bear that I can take down nice and quick because he decides he can take on the one lone logi in a crowd, in fact I like shooting logis too. I'm really not sure why making one tower inaccessible is such a big deal. There are far better spots to be sitting with a sniper rifle on all the maps. That tower(s) was really not a great place to park a dropship anyways so why bother?

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Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 14	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:30:00 - [1] - Quote CCP has destroyed yet another good sniping location. Thanks for the under the radar but it's kind of a big deal sniper nerf. I guess snipers weren't getting killed enough by infantry. It's bad enough the new map packs have failed to include any decent sniper locations, but getting rid of old reliable ones for no reason sucks. I'm sure that if there was some sort of reason it would be in the god !@#$ patch notes.
abarkrishna WarRavens 169	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:35:00 - [2] - Quote Good. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 14	Posted - 2013.12.10 21:13:00 - [3] - Quote I was hoping to beat cancer for Christmas. Now all I want is my favorite sniping spot put back into the game.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 14	Posted - 2013.12.10 21:29:00 - [4] - Quote Again. The greyish black obelisk with a slanted top and antenna. Looks a bit like a shark fin. You can no longer stand on at all. These towers made for great sniping / overwatch spots on many maps. I would sincerely like these spots to be kept in the game.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 17	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:13:00 - [5] - Quote Somebody at CCP put some effort into this. I applaud them for giving the antenna substance so you can't walk through it anymore. That's not my complaint. Not being able to stand on top of the tower at all is my complaint. You just went negative on sniping spots for a lot of maps. After having the mountains removed from many maps after things were retextured awhile back and now this too. How big of a micro transaction do I need to make in order to get a response to this?
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 242	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:15:00 - [6] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: CCP has destroyed yet another good sniping location. Thanks for the under the radar but it's kind of a big deal sniper nerf. I guess snipers weren't getting killed enough by infantry. It's bad enough the new map packs have failed to include any decent sniper locations, but getting rid of old reliable ones for no reason sucks. I'm sure that if there was some sort of reason it would be in the god !@#$ patch notes. And it will continue sadly, CCP has had it in for Snipers since 1.3 and nerving and flattening out everything that we would use AS A SNIPER SHOULD. THEY JUST HATE US, NOT EVEN A SPECIALIST CHARGE SHIPER RIFLE IN NEW FACTION WARFARE, CCP IS JUST BIASED. . __ `/.)\ Nade \| Scan Attempt Prevented \| 31 mill SP \__/ 514 \| NFP Prime League Winner\| Longest Kill 588 Mtr`
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 18	Posted - 2013.12.12 13:02:00 - [7] - Quote It's interesting none of you mentioned that Sniper Rifles don't show anylonger the "hit" marker... I'll assume you all have the TAR-07 and each shots kills even PRO Sentinels. If you're an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
Ku Shala Exiled Veteran Elite 696	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:46:00 - [8] - Quote stop sniping 400m away from anyone and start being an active part of battle. the covent sniper is my new fav. it free its deadly and on an assault suit you can still hack objectives, it even works in tunnels underground, aim for heads (very easy at <200m ) shoot and move on .make sure your can give a good sprint though and have that side arm ready. I do miss camping, looking down my scope the whole match killing 30+ mercs First General of Exiled Veteran Elite Loyalty Is not always rewarded Caldari Loyalist
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 54	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:36:00 - [9] - Quote I gave up sniping, since I like being a part of battle and not a wuss in the hills, but I do keep some proto rifles for counter sniping, nothing feels like the good ole message of 'It's not ok to snipe!' from the middle of a map in the hotzone. Quit crying and find a spot where you can get jumped by a nova scout like a real sniper.
Vagitarian 420 Loki's Vanguard 0	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:51:00 - [10] - Quote You babies whining about their sniping spot being removed are entertaining. Since you cant hack it on the ground with the men fighting you run to the hills and try and snipe people from a distance. Would you like some un manned drones too so you dont have to aim your gun.

Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 242	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:34:00 - [11] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: stop sniping 400m away from anyone and start being an active part of battle. the covent sniper is my new fav. it free its deadly and on an assault suit you can still hack objectives, it even works in tunnels underground, aim for heads (very easy at <200m ) shoot and move on .make sure your can give a good sprint though and have that side arm ready. I do miss camping, looking down my scope the whole match killing 30+ mercs You just don't have a clue, You don't need to be amongst the fray to take part in it, THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF A BLOODY SNIPER . __ `/.)\ Nade \| Scan Attempt Prevented \| 32 mill SP \__/ 514 \| NFP Prime League Winner\| Longest Kill 588 Mtr`
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2026	Posted - 2013.12.13 01:43:00 - [12] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: stop sniping 400m away from anyone and start being an active part of battle. the covent sniper is my new fav. it free its deadly and on an assault suit you can still hack objectives, it even works in tunnels underground, aim for heads (very easy at <200m ) shoot and move on .make sure your can give a good sprint though and have that side arm ready. I do miss camping, looking down my scope the whole match killing 30+ mercs Only people that don't use a Charge or Thale's are useless. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 20	Posted - 2013.12.13 13:01:00 - [13] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: stop sniping 400m away from anyone and start being an active part of battle. the covent sniper is my new fav. it free its deadly and on an assault suit you can still hack objectives, it even works in tunnels underground, aim for heads (very easy at <200m ) shoot and move on .make sure your can give a good sprint though and have that side arm ready. I do miss camping, looking down my scope the whole match killing 30+ mercs It's also something known as "overwatch" for planetary conquest. Calling out enemy locations, troop movements, vehicles, and objectives that are about to be hacked by the enemy. Calling out to have the person responsible for remote explosives to be ready to blow them, is a very real thing.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 20	Posted - 2013.12.13 13:05:00 - [14] - Quote Vagitarian 420 wrote: You babies whining about their sniping spot being removed are entertaining. Since you cant hack it on the ground with the men fighting you run to the hills and try and snipe people from a distance. Would you like some un manned drones too so you dont have to aim your gun. No just motion sensors I can deploy so I don't die to the guy who goes 1/8 wandering around in the hills. That's probably you.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 20	Posted - 2013.12.13 13:07:00 - [15] - Quote Here's a full detailed list of the "Sniper Nerfs" from this latest patch, most of which are not in the patch notes. 1. Can't snipe from the obelisks (aka shark fins) anymore. They were changed so you slide right off the slanted angle now. This was my main Thale's sniping spot for PC. In general this means more snipers will be in less useful more predictable places for public matches. sidenote: You can still get up there to snipe but you're hanging off the bottom edge of it where they failed to retexture with that no stick coating. You're completely exposed and can't even move if you're being shot at. 2. AV grenades were downgraded, combined with drop ship hit points being upgraded. It now takes 4 standard, 3 advanced, or 3 prototype AV grenades to kill a militia drop ship. Where as before it would only take 2. Meaning it's way easier to harass and successfully land next to a sniper on a tower who is using AV as a defense. 3.Everyone got hit by this one, but the shield extender -7% recharge delay. Meaning if I do get shot I have to hide even longer for health to regenerate. Slowing the game down. 4.The health gauge information display was shifted to the right instead of directly below your crosshair. It's really awkward having to shift your eyes down and to the right as opposed to just down and back up. 5. Little or no indication if you successfully hit someone with your sniper rifle, there's no sound upon hit, and often the hitmarker won't appear. Meaning you don't know if you need to line up a second shot if they're close to cover, because you don't know if they're half way dead.. or not.
Ku Shala Exiled Veteran Elite 698	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:12:00 - [16] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: Ku Shala wrote: stop sniping 400m away from anyone and start being an active part of battle. the covent sniper is my new fav. it free its deadly and on an assault suit you can still hack objectives, it even works in tunnels underground, aim for heads (very easy at <200m ) shoot and move on .make sure your can give a good sprint though and have that side arm ready. I do miss camping, looking down my scope the whole match killing 30+ mercs You just don't have a clue, You don't need to be amongst the fray to take part in it, THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF A BLOODY SNIPER sniper is a temperary role to clear an area and move in at least in this game. maybe if more than 16 players could play or if you can defend including rehack an entire objective yourself but I promise you if you are exposed on the top of a building you are waiting for a head shot with my free BPO suit First General of Exiled Veteran Elite Loyalty Is not always rewarded Caldari Loyalist
General Khom Les Croustillants 0	Posted - 2013.12.13 15:15:00 - [17] - Quote sniper don't need to be right on the field, they are the eye of team... so yes we need good spot , to see almost 2or 3 important point on the map ! and now we're not able to figure where we gonna fall with the dropship... i mean not anymore we are capable to get out in the front of the dropship's nose, it's completely random ( right side or left side... ). how stupid is that ? it's was hard before to land on 1-2 m on a top of a tower and now it's simply impossible ...
Ku Shala Exiled Veteran Elite 698	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:04:00 - [18] - Quote General Khom wrote: sniper don't need to be right on the field, they are the eye of team... so yes we need good spot , to see almost 2or 3 important point on the map ! and now we're not able to figure where we gonna fall with the dropship... i mean not anymore we are capable to get out in the front of the dropship's nose, it's completely random ( right side or left side... ). how stupid is that ? it's was hard before to land on 1-2 m on a top of a tower and now it's simply impossible ... if that was true the zoom on the scope would allow for more accurate shooting rather than guessing where you think a head shot would be and you wouldn't have to 3x damage mod stack a charge to get OHK's yes a (1) sniper can be used as eyes but only in matches like pc where the whole team is cordinated and its not just a bunch of blueberry sniper scrubs First General of Exiled Veteran Elite Loyalty Is not always rewarded Caldari Loyalist
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 75	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:20:00 - [19] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Ku Shala wrote: stop sniping 400m away from anyone and start being an active part of battle. the covent sniper is my new fav. it free its deadly and on an assault suit you can still hack objectives, it even works in tunnels underground, aim for heads (very easy at <200m ) shoot and move on .make sure your can give a good sprint though and have that side arm ready. I do miss camping, looking down my scope the whole match killing 30+ mercs Only people that don't use a Charge or Thale's are useless. Well that's too bad, my countersnipe rifle of choice is the C-27N Specialist Sniper Rifle, but my Nova Knives work just as well to kill snipers as do my grenades or SR/AR/CR/MD, in fact snipers are my favorite targets. There is nothing quite so satisfying as seeing a sniper go down. Not even when I find a Proto Bear that I can take down nice and quick because he decides he can take on the one lone logi in a crowd, in fact I like shooting logis too. I'm really not sure why making one tower inaccessible is such a big deal. There are far better spots to be sitting with a sniper rifle on all the maps. That tower(s) was really not a great place to park a dropship anyways so why bother? Agent For Hire
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 20	Posted - 2013.12.13 18:48:00 - [20] - Quote get 30,000 kills from sniping, and your opinion might have as much weight as mine on this matter.

Ku Shala Exiled Veteran Elite 699	Posted - 2013.12.13 19:58:00 - [21] - Quote so in a match after you kill one of my squad mates and we send a member to shoot you off the tower where you cannot change your position you think you are PRO? Just because you have no life and can shoot infantry that doesnt know what cover is all day.....NOT impressed . you leave an uplink and keep spawning in the same spot too? First General of Exiled Veteran Elite Loyalty Is not always rewarded Caldari Loyalist
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 76	Posted - 2013.12.13 21:05:00 - [22] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: get 30,000 kills from sniping, and your opinion might have as much weight as mine on this matter. So hide in the hills with a thale's and think I'm awesome doing the head glitch trick and rage every time someone actually hits me? No I don't think so. This is not a technical support thread this is a feedback QQ thread, Devs please move this so more people can give their input without confusion of what the problem is. Agent For Hire
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2041	Posted - 2013.12.13 21:06:00 - [23] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Ku Shala wrote: stop sniping 400m away from anyone and start being an active part of battle. the covent sniper is my new fav. it free its deadly and on an assault suit you can still hack objectives, it even works in tunnels underground, aim for heads (very easy at <200m ) shoot and move on .make sure your can give a good sprint though and have that side arm ready. I do miss camping, looking down my scope the whole match killing 30+ mercs Only people that don't use a Charge or Thale's are useless. Well that's too bad, my countersnipe rifle of choice is the C-27N Specialist Sniper Rifle, but my Nova Knives work just as well to kill snipers as do my grenades or SR/AR/CR/MD, in fact snipers are my favorite targets. There is nothing quite so satisfying as seeing a sniper go down. Not even when I find a Proto Bear that I can take down nice and quick because he decides he can take on the one lone logi in a crowd, in fact I like shooting logis too. I'm really not sure why making one tower inaccessible is such a big deal. There are far better spots to be sitting with a sniper rifle on all the maps. That tower(s) was really not a great place to park a dropship anyways so why bother? It's just IMO. I don't care what rifle snipers are using as long as they do their job well. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 21	Posted - 2013.12.13 21:15:00 - [24] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: get 30,000 kills from sniping, and your opinion might have as much weight as mine on this matter. So hide in the hills with a thale's and think I'm awesome doing the head glitch trick and rage every time someone actually hits me? No I don't think so. This is not a technical support thread this is a feedback QQ thread, Devs please move this so more people can give their input without confusion of what the problem is. I don't use Thale's on hills, I don't use uplinks, and I don't waste time with the so called head glitch trick. You're confusing me with somebody else. You can't even pretend at knowing what constitutes a good sniper, I would just stop talking at this point.
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 77	Posted - 2013.12.13 21:20:00 - [25] - Quote Apparently, perhaps when I look up at a tower next time it will be my Sniper rifle of choice that finds you. Agent For Hire
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 21	Posted - 2013.12.13 21:24:00 - [26] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: Apparently, perhaps when I look up at a tower next time it will be my Sniper rifle of choice that finds you. I'll likely see you on the kill feed, using a Thale's. I'll likely find you on a hillside sitting next to an uplink. Got it!
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 77	Posted - 2013.12.13 21:38:00 - [27] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: DJINN Jecture wrote: Apparently, perhaps when I look up at a tower next time it will be my Sniper rifle of choice that finds you. I'll likely see you on the kill feed, using a Thale's. I'll likely find you on a hillside sitting next to an uplink. Got it! Oh? Now why would I use an un-replaceable weapon when I can use a militia rifle for the same task? Uplink? Find me? hah, don't worry nova knives will work too. Agent For Hire
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 21	Posted - 2013.12.13 21:40:00 - [28] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: so in a match after you kill one of my squad mates and we send a member to shoot you off the tower where you cannot change your position you think you are PRO? Just because you have no life and can shoot infantry that doesnt know what cover is all day.....NOT impressed . you leave an uplink and keep spawning in the same spot too? It's likely I'm killing you. The roleplaying forum warrior with only 8,000 kills and a 1.2 kill vs death ratio. You're the last person I'm trying to impress I promise.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 21	Posted - 2013.12.13 21:42:00 - [29] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: DJINN Jecture wrote: Apparently, perhaps when I look up at a tower next time it will be my Sniper rifle of choice that finds you. I'll likely see you on the kill feed, using a Thale's. I'll likely find you on a hillside sitting next to an uplink. Got it! Oh? Now why would I use an un-replaceable weapon when I can use a militia rifle for the same task? Uplink? Find me? hah, don't worry nova knives will work too. You skilled into nova knives, I have nothing more to say!
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 21	Posted - 2013.12.13 21:45:00 - [30] - Quote (back on topic though) Here's a full detailed list of the "Sniper Nerfs" from this latest patch, most of which are not in the patch notes. 1. Can't snipe from the obelisks (aka shark fins) anymore. They were changed so you slide right off the slanted angle now. This was my main Thale's sniping spot for PC. In general this means more snipers will be in less useful more predictable places for public matches. sidenote: You can still get up there to snipe but you're hanging off the bottom edge of it where they failed to retexture with that no stick coating. You're completely exposed and can't even move if you're being shot at. 2. AV grenades were downgraded, combined with drop ship hit points being upgraded. It now takes 4 standard, 3 advanced, or 3 prototype AV grenades to kill a militia drop ship. Where as before it would only take 2. Meaning it's way easier to harass and successfully land next to a sniper on a tower who is using AV as a defense. 3.Everyone got hit by this one, but the shield extender -7% recharge delay. Meaning if I do get shot I have to hide even longer for health to regenerate. Slowing the game down. 4.The health gauge information display was shifted to the right instead of directly below your crosshair. It's really awkward having to shift your eyes down and to the right as opposed to just down and back up. 5. Little or no indication if you successfully hit someone with your sniper rifle, there's no sound upon hit, and often the hitmarker won't appear. Meaning you don't know if you need to line up a second shot if they're close to cover, because you don't know if they're half way dead.. or not.



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