DUST Search - Sniping Problem.

Symbioticforks wrote:

1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs

Damage Mods (Funneling snipers into a new suit to maintain with some loss current damage percentages)

Should you choose to acknowledge any

Caldari Commando

+10% damage to rail weapons
+another light weapon to defend yourself
+high shielding good against counter snipers
-larger signature radius
-larger suit easier to spot / hit / slow movement
-no armor regen
-no grenades for AV defense
-maxiumum nanohives carried is 1

AV Grenades (You can't even fend off a militia dropship with 2 prototype packed AV grenades.)

I no longer recognize that these serve any purpose. These at one point provided good defense against getting road killed by enemy drop ships, or preventing a poor pilot from landing right next to you. Currently they provide poor defense, however better than nothing. Come 1.8 nothing would be better actually. (requires less cpu / pg)

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TheEnd762 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 447	Posted - 2014.03.12 08:11:00 - [61] - Quote Moving gets you spotted AND takes too long AND exposes you to danger between positions. A good sniper rarely needs to move.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 76	Posted - 2014.03.15 07:51:00 - [62] - Quote boop
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 76	Posted - 2014.03.17 01:32:00 - [63] - Quote 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs Damage Mods (Funneling snipers into a new suit to maintain with some loss current damage percentages) The time to kill for snipers does not need to be adjusted. Having to land 3 shots with a charged sniper rifle on anything other than a Sentinel or Commando just isn't acceptable. Balancing the sniper rifles a couple times a year to match the evolution of the game and the appropriate time to kill would solve all the issues. Should you choose to acknowledge any. Instead it's one incomprehensible stealth nerf after another. The new suit I was referring to is the *Caldari Commando* +10% damage to rail weapons +another light weapon to defend yourself +high shielding good against counter snipers -larger signature radius -larger suit easier to spot / hit / slow movement -no armor regen -no grenades for AV defense -maxiumum nanohives carried is 1 (being physically larger kills this for me) AV Grendades (You can't even fend off a militia dropship with 2 prototype packed AV grenades.) I no longer recognize that these serve any purpose. These at one point provided good defense against getting road killed by enemy drop ships, or preventing a poor pilot from landing right next to you. Currently they provide poor defense, however better than nothing. Come 1.8 nothing would be better actually. (requires less cpu / pg) ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1870	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:31:00 - [64] - Quote I can understand being annoyed at losing a favourite spot, but think of it from the other side with the god awful render distance and bugs that entails that kind of spot was pretty broken. If CCP could fix those issues no one would have a problem with those spots but sadly that wont happen any time soon. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 76	Posted - 2014.03.17 06:03:00 - [65] - Quote I somehow doubt good players were complaining about that. It's no different than being somewhere in the red line. Especially with the increased popularity of the attack drop ship. You were still vulnerable to being counter sniped as well. You certainly couldn't be effective if someone was keeping you pinned down up there. ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Canis Ferox Ultramarine Corp 12	Posted - 2014.03.17 15:27:00 - [66] - Quote It doesn't matter where you hide. Kill me three times in a game and I'm coming for you in my ninja suit with remote explosives equipped. You won't hear a thing until you're flying through the air trying to stick your mudflaps back on to what's let of your back-end. Have fun sniping. But remember.... ...look behind you now and then. - C.F.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 79	Posted - 2014.03.19 14:08:00 - [67] - Quote CCP read your forums. Call your mom. Brush your teeth. ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 83	Posted - 2014.03.28 11:34:00 - [68] - Quote The suit best created for sniping damage output, also has the same hit box as a heavy and stands out amongst any terrain quite terribly. ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Drae Rel BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 49	Posted - 2014.03.29 22:35:00 - [69] - Quote a
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 65	Posted - 2014.03.30 14:44:00 - [70] - Quote Vagitarian 420 wrote: You babies whining about their sniping spot being removed are entertaining. Since you cant hack it on the ground with the men fighting you run to the hills and try and snipe people from a distance. Would you like some un manned drones too so you dont have to aim your gun. That would be great! My hand-eye-coordination sucks and theres nothing I can do about it. Finding new arsehol tactics is my only means of surviving. So, why not? Give me drones and auto-turrets. EDIT: If I would pay massive ISK for it, it would be kinda fair, wouldnt it? Hello I am a casual solo player. Nice to meet you. What? Yes, I really exist! Dust NPE status today: frustrating

bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 549	Posted - 2014.03.31 05:04:00 - [71] - Quote Let me give you a little perspective. I stopped trying to snipe up on those towers when I was a newberry 6 months ago. B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 144	Posted - 2014.04.01 00:12:00 - [72] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs - 1.8 Sniper Nerfs Damage Mods (Funneling snipers into a new suit to maintain with some loss current damage percentages) The time to kill for snipers does not need to be adjusted. Having to land 3 shots with a charged sniper rifle on anything other than a Sentinel or Commando just isn't acceptable. Balancing the sniper rifles a couple times a year to match the evolution of the game and the appropriate time to kill would solve all the issues. Should you choose to acknowledge any. Instead it's one incomprehensible stealth nerf after another. The new suit I was referring to is the *Caldari Commando* +10% damage to rail weapons +another light weapon to defend yourself +high shielding good against counter snipers -larger signature radius -larger suit easier to spot / hit / slow movement -no armor regen -no grenades for AV defense -maxiumum nanohives carried is 1 (being physically larger kills this for me) AV Grenades (You can't even fend off a militia dropship with 2 prototype packed AV grenades.) I no longer recognize that these serve any purpose. These at one point provided good defense against getting road killed by enemy drop ships, or preventing a poor pilot from landing right next to you. Currently they provide poor defense, however better than nothing. Come 1.8 nothing would be better actually. (requires less cpu / pg) LOL, ever wonder what life would be like if everyone else not in AE listened to Kujo and his BS about you need to do it this way or that way? Seems like you two are cut from the same cloth, glad to see the tears flowing hard. Maybe next patch they will issue foam darts for snipers, glad to see you still sit in a fat ass suit that is easy to find. Agent For Hire Come at me Bro!
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 144	Posted - 2014.04.01 00:17:00 - [73] - Quote BTW this is still a feedback QQ thread, the QQ section is up a couple of sections in the list called "Feedback". Agent For Hire Come at me Bro!
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 144	Posted - 2014.04.01 00:19:00 - [74] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: The suit best created for sniping damage output, also has the same hit box as a heavy and stands out amongst any terrain quite terribly. You sir are quite possibly the worst I have ever seen at fitting, maybe not though. I think Elmo still uses the starter sniper fitting, wait that would be an improvement and cost less... Agent For Hire Come at me Bro!
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 98	Posted - 2014.04.02 21:50:00 - [75] - Quote Triple post, well done. ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 98	Posted - 2014.04.02 22:00:00 - [76] - Quote Quote: LOL, ever wonder what life would be like if everyone else not in AE listened to Kujo and his BS about you need to do it this way or that way? Seems like you two are cut from the same cloth, glad to see the tears flowing hard. Maybe next patch they will issue foam darts for snipers, glad to see you still sit in a fat ass suit that is easy to find. I'm not sure what you mean, explain if you will. In 1.7 I was using the Caldari Logi for sniping primarily, and a Minmitar Assault for my more aggressive build. No one has ever told me what to do when it comes to sniping or skill point usage. This is my first time ever using a heavy suit for sniping, and it's not for the health bonuses or extra large hit box I assure you. I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas from. Find your medication before posting on the forums (and take it) ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 702	Posted - 2014.04.02 22:30:00 - [77] - Quote I snipe and I see this as a positive. Good. They day they eliminate the last of these ground inaccessible camping spots will be a very good day. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 104	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:31:00 - [78] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: I snipe and I see this as a positive. Good. They day they eliminate the last of these ground inaccessible camping spots will be a very good day. That will never happen. There will always be roofs, mountains, and structures to snipe on. Large open world environments is DUST 514. If a sniper doesn't want to be bothered by infantry they shouldn't have to be. If you're so determined to kill one go through the normal channels like everybody else. ADS Drop ship to their location, jump out kill Counter Snipe Orbital Stirke Would you prefer quick scoping? gtfo ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Spartykins NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 57	Posted - 2014.04.04 11:57:00 - [79] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: If a sniper doesn't want to be bothered by infantry they shouldn't have to be. If you're so determined to kill one go through the normal channels like everybody else. So basically you're saying you want sniping to require as little situational awareness as possible? And require people to go to extreme lengths to kill them? Gee, where have I heard this before? I'm all for buffing sniping, but seriously dude. (Insert witty phrase here)
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 104	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:00:00 - [80] - Quote I guess that means I go to extreme lengths to "get posted". Almost every.. single.. match.. Let me tell you.. *It's so difficult being so extreme. My wife and kids left me. I subsist on a steady diet of cockroaches.. and I would end my life should the sniper rifle get nerfed any further. Situational awareness is certainly still there. You better believe I'm listening for drop ships and constantly scanning the horizon for the main thing that's going to get me killed. (enemy snipers) The sniper rifle isn't nearly as effective if you're not set up somewhere hard for infantry to access. You'll get knifed in the back by a cloaked scout faster than you can say. (shotgun) ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^*

DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 146	Posted - 2014.04.04 17:57:00 - [81] - Quote Quote: Quote: LOL, ever wonder what life would be like if everyone else not in AE listened to Kujo and his BS about you need to do it this way or that way? Seems like you two are cut from the same cloth, glad to see the tears flowing hard. Maybe next patch they will issue foam darts for snipers, glad to see you still sit in a fat ass suit that is easy to find. I'm not sure what you mean, explain if you will. In 1.7 I was using the Caldari Logi for sniping primarily, and a Minmitar Assault for my more aggressive build. No one has ever told me what to do when it comes to sniping or skill point usage. This is my first time ever using a heavy suit for sniping, and it's not for the health bonuses or extra large hit box I assure you. I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas from. Still not the best suit, still a QQ thread. Thales are better for a shelf rather than your heavy *** suit. Quote:** Find your medication before posting on the forums (and take it) Meds, check, posted, check...did I forget something oh yeah my cup for the tears. Agent For Hire Come at me Bro!
Strker Remorse OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6	Posted - 2014.04.04 20:01:00 - [82] - Quote Vagitarian 420 wrote: Would you like some un manned drones too so you dont have to aim your gun. Are those in game now? Yes please! "That bastards been sitting up in the rocks all morning just waiting for two idiots to line up in his sights."
Spartykins NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 63	Posted - 2014.04.05 02:59:00 - [83] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: I guess that means I go to extreme lengths to "get posted". Almost every.. single.. match.. Let me tell you.. *It's so difficult being so extreme. My wife and kids left me. I subsist on a steady diet of cockroaches.. and I would end my life should the sniper rifle get nerfed any further. Do you pee in jars and throw them at people? Actually why don't we make that the counter to cloak? Symbioticforks wrote:* Situational awareness is certainly still there. You better believe I'm listening for drop ships and constantly scanning the horizon for the main thing that's going to get me killed. (enemy snipers) The sniper rifle isn't nearly as effective if you're not set up somewhere hard for infantry to access. You'll get knifed in the back by a cloaked scout faster than you can say. (shotgun) Hard, but not to where you have only two options for dealing with them. You're just basically asking low risk, high reward at that point. Exploiting bad map design is basically what's brought snipers to the level of almost uselessness. (Insert witty phrase here)
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1148	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:02:00 - [84] - Quote I think you are the only Merc supporting this anti-nerf. The sniper posts you have last are the very ones that were asked repeatedly by other players to remove. They were removed. And a good time was enjoyed by ... well, most. And so it goes.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 105	Posted - 2014.04.06 07:36:00 - [85] - Quote They weren't removed, you can still get up there if you know how and get lucky. It's quite possibly a large waste of time for a reasonably bad spot. You'll get counter sniped in a heartbeat and are forced to jump down. I do not recall anyone asking to have those spots removed. And it makes no sense that they were honestly. The incline isn't so steep that you shouldn't be able to walk up it. (I've done it before and walked up other similar surfaces) It's just annoying. If you got some links to people complaining about the obelisk (shark fin) link them. The only real problem was the sometimes hollow antenna array on top.. ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 105	Posted - 2014.04.06 08:33:00 - [86] - Quote Djinn Jecture - you're feeder scum. You know little. You have a grand total of 11,615 kills with a negative kill/death ratio. (0.84) I have double your win percentage.. triple your kills.. less than half your deaths. You farm war points because you're likely good at nothing else. 2.2 million. It looks like you screw around every single game, and make a lot of bad decisions. What do you even do? Full-time armor-repair? No. Any logi with a pulse has a 2.0 k/d. That can't be it. Suicide hacking uplink spam scout? No. You'd have a higher win/loss ratio. Sniping? No. you'd have a higher k/d, less wp. I have no idea what you're doing, but it's not helping you win.. get kills.. or stay alive.. Your opinions are terrible and unfounded in knowing what it takes to do well in DUST 514. The name "Djinn ConJecture" would have been far more fitting for you. ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Symbioticforks The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 232	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:08:00 - [87] - Quote This thread. ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 90	Posted - 2014.05.28 21:57:00 - [88] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: DJINN Jecture wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: get 30,000 kills from sniping, and your opinion might have as much weight as mine on this matter. So hide in the hills with a thale's and think I'm awesome doing the head glitch trick and rage every time someone actually hits me? No I don't think so. This is not a technical support thread this is a feedback QQ thread, Devs please move this so more people can give their input without confusion of what the problem is. I don't use Thale's on hills, I don't use uplinks, and I don't waste time with the so called head glitch trick. You're confusing me with somebody else. You can't even pretend at knowing what constitutes a good sniper, I would just stop talking at this point. Starting a thread stating an issue you have in game ----- Fine Continuing to bump the thread with more whining about how something was nerfed ---- not so much. Then berating people who are calling you on your BS with your "enormous" kill count(me thinks someone is trying to compensate for something) just makes you look like a narcissist.
Symbioticforks The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 242	Posted - 2014.05.28 22:00:00 - [89] - Quote The guy has been trolling the entire thread. As for bumping it you just did that for me. Thanks? ^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 90	Posted - 2014.05.28 22:08:00 - [90] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: The guy has been trolling the entire thread. As for bumping it you just did that for me. Thanks? Was that supposed to be a question or a statement? Or were you trying to be clever. In any case you failed at : pick one of the three(all would be correct) As far as saying he was a troll, he wasn't, until you berated him first, in which case the line had been drawn and he began to troll. Me, I just hope this continues so the thread gets locked indefinitely.....



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