Only people that don't use a Charge or Thale's are useless.

get 30,000 kills from sniping, and your opinion might have as much weight as mine on this matter.

I'll likely see you on the kill feed, using a Thale's. I'll likely find you on a hillside sitting next to an uplink. Got it!

(back on topic though)

Here's a full detailed list of the "Sniper Nerfs" from this latest patch, most of which are not in the patch notes.

1. Can't snipe from the obelisks (aka shark fins) anymore. They were changed so you slide right off the slanted angle now. This was my main Thale's sniping spot for PC. In general this means more snipers will be in less useful more predictable places for public matches.

sidenote: You can still get up there to snipe but you're hanging off the bottom edge of it where they failed to retexture with that no stick coating. You're completely exposed and can't even move if you're being shot at.

2. AV grenades were downgraded, combined with drop ship hit points being upgraded. It now takes 4 standard, 3 advanced, or 3 prototype AV grenades to kill a militia drop ship. Where as before it would only take 2. Meaning it's way easier to harass and successfully land next to a sniper on a tower who is using AV as a defense.

3.Everyone got hit by this one, but the shield extender -7% recharge delay. Meaning if I do get shot I have to hide even longer for health to regenerate. Slowing the game down.

4.The health gauge information display was shifted to the right instead of directly below your crosshair. It's really awkward having to shift your eyes down and to the right as opposed to just down and back up.

5. Little or no indication if you successfully hit someone with your sniper rifle, there's no sound upon hit, and often the hitmarker won't appear. Meaning you don't know if you need to line up a second shot if they're close to cover, because you don't know if they're half way dead.. or not.

get 30,000 kills from sniping, and your opinion might have as much weight as mine on this matter.

Players in all combat roles take necessary measures to maximize their advantages while minimizing their risks. In the case of snipers a large part of that adaptive strategy involves discovering good positions on each map from which to engage important points in battle. These locations are selected not just because they offer high kill opportunities but also because they offer vantages and cover that compensate for the frequent immobility that's required to quickly find and accurately strike targets (and I'm talking about both strategic camper-style sniping and the tactical run & gun style). For these reasons detection avoidance is often paramount, especially in fittings that sacrifice defenses to enhance sensor and weapon capabilities (for instance, the scout I used tonight has a mere 204 EHP and is almost sure to die in any CQC encounter). So for CCP to take away favorite sniping spots and force snipers to change their knowledge bases and strategies while facing increased risks of detection and counterfire, this is just as bothersome as having a favorite firearm or other gear nerfed, especially when it's done on the sly like this.

• Damage Mods (Funneling snipers into a new suit to maintain with some loss current damage percentages)

The time to kill for snipers does not need to be adjusted. Having to land 3 shots with a charged sniper rifle on anything other than a Sentinel or Commando just isn't acceptable. Balancing the sniper rifles a couple times a year to match the evolution of the game and the appropriate time to kill would solve all the issues. Should you choose to acknowledge any. Instead it's one incomprehensible stealth nerf after another.

The new suit I was referring to is the

*Caldari Commando*

+10% damage to rail weapons
+another light weapon to defend yourself
+high shielding good against counter snipers
-larger signature radius
-larger suit easier to spot / hit / slow movement
-no armor regen
-no grenades for AV defense
-maxiumum nanohives carried is 1

(being physically larger kills this for me)


• AV Grenades (You can't even fend off a militia dropship with 2 prototype packed AV grenades.)

I no longer recognize that these serve any purpose. These at one point provided good defense against getting road killed by enemy drop ships, or preventing a poor pilot from landing right next to you. Currently they provide poor defense, however better than nothing. Come 1.8 nothing would be better actually. (requires less cpu / pg)

The suit best created for sniping damage output, also has the same hit box as a heavy and stands out amongst any terrain quite terribly.

I'm not sure what you mean, explain if you will.

In 1.7 I was using the Caldari Logi for sniping primarily, and a Minmitar Assault for my more aggressive build. No one has ever told me what to do when it comes to sniping or skill point usage. This is my first time ever using a heavy suit for sniping, and it's not for the health bonuses or extra large hit box I assure you. I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas from.

Find your medication before posting on the forums (and take it)