You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about. Is this a troll post or are you really that ignorant?

Facts:

Lvl 5 Scouts beat advanced scanners inherently, and this scanner is the most widely used in pubs.

To beat 28 dB scanners, the scout must have Lvl 2 profile dampening, and one basic or militia dampener. That's roughly 80k SP.

No one except a paperthin Gal Scout can beat the 15dB scanner, but the attributes of this scanner make it one of the least often used. You will encounter this scanner in maybe 1% of pub matches.

I'm not sure about null cannons, but the scan precision of supply depots and other installations is somewhere higher than 45db but lower than 50dB. It might be 50dB exactly.

There are no "Some Margin of Error" messages anymore, nor are there any quick light blips if someone is using dampeners. I have tested this on Oceania using two PS3s. Have you?

You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about. Is this a troll post or are you really that ignorant?

Facts:

Lvl 5 Scouts beat advanced scanners inherently, and this scanner is the most widely used in pubs.

To beat 28 dB scanners, the scout must have Lvl 2 profile dampening, and one basic or militia dampener. That's roughly 80k SP.

No one except a paperthin Gal Scout can beat the 15dB scanner, but the attributes of this scanner make it one of the least often used. You will encounter this scanner in maybe 1% of pub matches.

I'm not sure about null cannons, but the scan precision of supply depots and other installations is somewhere higher than 45db but lower than 50dB. It might be 50dB exactly.

There are no "Some Margin of Error" messages anymore, nor are there any quick light blips if someone is using dampeners. I have tested this on Oceania using two PS3s. Have you?

racial scout 5 + dampening 3 = 40% passive damp
scout suit = 45db

27db = 45 x .6

get gud

also, I get scanned like once a week proto scanners in pubs aren't common at all.

Regardless, any time someone runs a scanner over you, the game tells them you are there by telling you that there was a "margin of error." They won't know exactly where you are at, but they know you are somewhere within the area they scanned, which is all they really need to know anyway.

Actually the margin of error thing has been removed.

Since when? I was getting "no margin of error" on my scanner last night when I used it in the random match I actually played. Does it just say "No margin of error" every single time you use it now?

I haven't gotten one in a while. In fact I was just scanning a guy I was looking at (Seeing if he had buddies) and noticed he didn't show up and I didn't get the margin of error. I did this a couple of times on him and got nothing.

So it just told you "No Margin of Error" even though it didn't pick him up?

Stronger than prototype scanner coming to a Gallente LP store near you

You telling me to get gud? Probably rocking a logi an a scr an ur scout has dust on it, since ur not on the srkb

The only thing wrong with active scanners is the scan and spin tactic where you can scan all around you.

I'm assuming that srkb is short hand for scout registry killboard?
Ctrl + F "3354"

the number is off by a couple hundred but my name is still there and I assure you I am still and active scout.

however I did notice in passing that "DEZKA DIABLO" isn't listed... lolalt?

I have seen "some margin of error" just a few days ago.

However, it is quite rare.

I suspect it only happens when the scan precision and the target profile are very close.

You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about. Is this a troll post or are you really that ignorant?

Facts:

Lvl 5 Scouts beat advanced scanners inherently, and this scanner is the most widely used in pubs.

To beat 28 dB scanners, the scout must have Lvl 2 profile dampening, and one basic or militia dampener. That's roughly 80k SP.

No one except a paperthin Gal Scout can beat the 15dB scanner, but the attributes of this scanner make it one of the least often used. You will encounter this scanner in maybe 1% of pub matches.

I'm not sure about null cannons, but the scan precision of supply depots and other installations is somewhere higher than 45db but lower than 50dB. It might be 50dB exactly.

There are no "Some Margin of Error" messages anymore, nor are there any quick light blips if someone is using dampeners. I have tested this on Oceania using two PS3s. Have you?

Prototype Focused (15db) has lowest fitting requirements of other PRO, so not sure how you find "the attributes of this scanner make it one of the least often used". It is slowly becoming plague in FW.

You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about. Is this a troll post or are you really that ignorant?

Facts:

Lvl 5 Scouts beat advanced scanners inherently, and this scanner is the most widely used in pubs.

To beat 28 dB scanners, the scout must have Lvl 2 profile dampening, and one basic or militia dampener. That's roughly 80k SP.

No one except a paperthin Gal Scout can beat the 15dB scanner, but the attributes of this scanner make it one of the least often used. You will encounter this scanner in maybe 1% of pub matches.

I'm not sure about null cannons, but the scan precision of supply depots and other installations is somewhere higher than 45db but lower than 50dB. It might be 50dB exactly.

There are no "Some Margin of Error" messages anymore, nor are there any quick light blips if someone is using dampeners. I have tested this on Oceania using two PS3s. Have you?

Saying that proto scouts should be able to beat proto scanners just due to their class bonus is like saying that logis should have an inherent 20 HP/sec rep just due to their class bonus. The class bonus is a mediocre replacement for modules, and should not be as beneficial as using the modules that they replace.

You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about. Is this a troll post or are you really that ignorant?

Facts:

Lvl 5 Scouts beat advanced scanners inherently, and this scanner is the most widely used in pubs.

To beat 28 dB scanners, the scout must have Lvl 2 profile dampening, and one basic or militia dampener. That's roughly 80k SP.

No one except a paperthin Gal Scout can beat the 15dB scanner, but the attributes of this scanner make it one of the least often used. You will encounter this scanner in maybe 1% of pub matches.

I'm not sure about null cannons, but the scan precision of supply depots and other installations is somewhere higher than 45db but lower than 50dB. It might be 50dB exactly.

There are no "Some Margin of Error" messages anymore, nor are there any quick light blips if someone is using dampeners. I have tested this on Oceania using two PS3s. Have you?

Scout is a tough class to play. Everyone agrees on this.

But in terms of dampening, scouts are whining too much without realizing how EASY you have it.

Dampening is one aspect of your suit. For a medium suit to have the same dampening level as you (say under 28dB), it needs two slots for complex profile dampeners, or three slots for basic/militia dampeners.

What do Lvl 5 scouts need to achieve the same? Lvl 2 in dampening and one slot for a basic or militia dampener.

So you can't avoid the 15dB proto scanner? Neither can anyone else. By this sheer fact it SHOULD be the most popular scanner in the game. But it isn't. Why? Because I'd rather have a scanner that can give me intel on 95% of enemy players 100% of the match, rather than a scanner that gives intel on 100% of players for only 30% of the match.

Is stealth the defining characteristic of the scout? Maybe, maybe not. You don't die instantly after you get scanned, do you?

If stealth was the only thing going for you, then why did people play the class prior to 1.4, when shared team/squad vision meant scouts were visible to everyone so long as one person had line of sight on them? Maybe it's because their speed and quick regen allowed skill scouts to rack up tons of kills using scout shotty, despite the fact that people saw them on their radar?

I would lean the other way Reav. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SP investment to lower your sig seems greater than the investment to scan that low. And while the scanner may be 'exposed', unless they are in direct combat, the risk is low. The scout cannot identify the scanner to eliminate the threat. I think using active scanners should also increase your sig. In real life, active radar (and sonar) gives you a better picture, but also let's your opponent know where the scanner is. Be nice if scouts knew at least that much.

Scout is a tough class to play. Everyone agrees on this.

But in terms of dampening, scouts are whining too much without realizing how EASY you have it.

Dampening is one aspect of your suit. For a medium suit to have the same dampening level as you (say under 28dB), it needs two slots for complex profile dampeners, or three slots for basic/militia dampeners.

What do Lvl 5 scouts need to achieve the same? Lvl 2 in dampening and one slot for a basic or militia dampener.

So you can't avoid the 15dB proto scanner? Neither can anyone else. By this sheer fact it SHOULD be the most popular scanner in the game. But it isn't. Why? Because I'd rather have a scanner that can give me intel on 95% of enemy players 100% of the match, rather than a scanner that gives intel on 100% of players for only 30% of the match.

Is stealth the defining characteristic of the scout? Maybe, maybe not. You don't die instantly after you get scanned, do you?

If stealth was the only thing going for you, then why did people play the class prior to 1.4, when shared team/squad vision meant scouts were visible to everyone so long as one person had line of sight on them? Maybe it's because their speed and quick regen allowed skill scouts to rack up tons of kills using scout shotty, despite the fact that people saw them on their radar?

One BIG point to consider when people keep bringing up how Scouts are "only" giving up one slot and a little bit of PG/CPU.

We still have some of the worst slot layouts and fitting capacity of any Dropsuits in the game, losing those things costs us a LOT more than it does other suits.

So scouts complain about getting scanned being a death sentence, but don't think 15 CPU and one slot is worth it to not get scanned?