Only a person who hasn't read into Amarr beliefs & systems would say that which makes your statement pretty invalid.

The Amarr treat them as indentured servants & are strictly forbidden to abuse them in anyway unless they do something extremely bad like theft of a holy object or something considered horribly sinful, they do treat them right my referance is a Amarr bloodline choice & the Amarr race descripton.

The Amarr see it as 1's path to religious enlightenment & The Amarr's have as well as can free the servant or servants eventually.

The current Amarr Empress Jamyl ordered the release of MILLIONS of Minmitar servants. Then The Caldari (being allianced to Amarr) whenever they see a servant is released The Caldari have "The Former Slave Trainning Program" I believe it's called, which basically teaches former servants how to be merchants, tradesman & etc. in modern life to help they along.

The current Empress Jamyl also sent a LARGE ISK care package to The Caldari to restabalise they're economy, money from the care package went on to help with many programs & the like SUCH AS "The Former Slave Trainning Program"

During a incident a bad 1 that hit The Gallente the current Empress Jamyl also sent them a ISK care package to help them with the horrible incident, forgot it's name I think it began with a "S"

Now here's a "little" bad about the rightous Minmitar & Gallente

Did you know The Gallente went all concentration/holocaust camp like on Caldari POW's? - Do you recall The Gallente attacked & forced they're power/will on The Caldari homeworld?

Did you know the Minmitar somewhat believe the Gallente are just using them for The Gallente's own power purposes?

Did you know The Minmitar attacked The Gallente in full fitted attack ships over a Minmitar Brute guy that "supposedly killed 12 Gallente citizins in self-defense" & the Minmitar believed he was innocent & The Gallente didn't, so instead of talking the trial over The Minmitar sent attack ships to attack The Gallente? Though it was resolved they did do it.

- Did you know The Elder Fleet of The Minmitar attacked CONCORD (New Eden's police force! The Generally agreed Good Guys!) to knock out they're support & warning systems to go on to attack The Amarr homeworld & once their The Minmitar killed any & all Amarrians on sight while "rightously freeing minmitar servants" along the way. They're madness of killing armed to unarmed innocent Amarr people of ALL ages was ended by Empress Jamyl who showed up out of no where in Aramggedon Ships & utterly crushed The Elder Fleet in seconds saving millions of Amarr lives thus Amarr ships & ground forces pushed back The Elder Fleet.

Typical Amarrian propaganda.

Do you like gold as well?

Typical Amarrian propaganda.

Do you like gold as well?

American south could free slaves whenever they wanted, that doesn't mean they did often.
All sides have done horrible things, doesn't help showing only those of 2 sides. Anyone else think of the Minmatar heavy's design when reading about a brute who killed 12 Gallente.

Ya know, I really don't think that helps your case.

I don't know depends do you like duct tape,heretic.

Yea I know that that showing two sides doesn't show all. Every empire has its problems. I just want to point this out because i have met a lot of people who instantly avoid the amarr because of slavery.

Gold on the outside. Rust on the inside.

Slavery and fundamentalism is about as full of win as a scout with a shotgun facing down a tank.

Umm, pardon me, but I have some questions: What did the Matari owe the Empire? As a matter of fact, didn't Amarr plan (and still plan) on doing a conquest of the cluster? Plus, didn't they Caldari disrespectfully ditch the Federation, even though we helped them out grow into what they are today?

None of the Races are good. The Federation doesn't bullshit though; We know we're ****** up. We just enjoy it. You think everything you do it good, but in reality, it isn't. At all.

Yea I know that that showing two sides doesn't show all. Every empire has its problems. I just want to point this out because i have met a lot of people who instantly avoid the amarr because of slavery.

Umm, pardon me, but I have some questions: What did the Matari owe the Empire? As a matter of fact, didn't Amarr plan (and still plan) on doing a conquest of the cluster? Plus, didn't they Caldari disrespectfully ditch the Federation, even though we helped them out grow into what they are today?

None of the Races are good. The Federation doesn't bullshit though; We know we're ****** up. We just enjoy it. You think everything you do it good, but in reality, it isn't. At all.

Again people mistake yet another thread like this. Its not about who is good or better, its about wising people up to the pact that their current "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM" addled notions of what the Gallente and Matari are ....are very very misinformed.

Amarrians are so arrogant it sickens me.

If you need me, I'll be shoving rounds from my Boundless MD into them.

It's fun watching their armor tankers run in fear. And when I have flux grenades?

Amarrians are so arrogant it sickens me.

If you need me, I'll be shoving rounds from my Boundless MD into them.

It's fun watching their armor tankers run in fear. And when I have flux grenades?

Amarrians are so arrogant it sickens me.

If you need me, I'll be shoving rounds from my Boundless MD into them.

It's fun watching their armor tankers run in fear. And when I have flux grenades?

I like Minmatar cause I like the idea of playing a "primitive" tribesman with a justified(?) homicidal rage welling within them. Sebiestor strike me as having a very "modern primitive" vibe about them which I greatly enjoy.

I picture them as being very "Verbena + Virtual Adept = Sebiestor Tinkerer"


I guess the whole "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!! **** THE EVIL EMPIRE!!" schtick is just a bonus

*shrug*

You have perfectly good reasons to fight for who you are fighting. You know why you are fighting for who you are fighting for.

Yea I know that that showing two sides doesn't show all. Every empire has its problems. I just want to point this out because i have met a lot of people who instantly avoid the amarr because of slavery.

Mmmmm GǪ yes.

That whole slavery thing.

Puts a bit of a crimp in the "love the Amarr" movement.

My people will never rest until we are free.


Munch

Yes but the premise is so clich+¬.... there is almost not real room for anything but liberalist hippy and determined hero characters?

Again I come back the point of what the hell don't Minmatar and Gallente players use

Min/ Gal schitozphrenic underworld bruiser, cruel, but utterly loyal to his her faction.

Nope all I have seen thus far is CHAMPION OF FREEDOM characters which A- doesn't rate you very highly in creativity B- predictable and boring.
Not to make light of your reasons for supporting min they are as good as any.....but Minmatar don't really have a "soul" as a faction IMO.

Typical Amarrian propaganda.

Do you like gold as well?

American south could free slaves whenever they wanted, that doesn't mean they did often.
All sides have done horrible things, doesn't help showing only those of 2 sides. Anyone else think of the Minmatar heavy's design when reading about a brute who killed 12 Gallente.

\Why a Holder's duty is to ensure his servants are clothed, fed, kept safe, educated, and in time made into free citizens of the Empire.

Plenty of worth Minmatar are emancipated on a yearly basis.

I want to point out that Amarrian tenets of slavery are not the same as anything from the real world, which by no means anyone could condone with conviction, bringing those sorts of circumstances into a game is just foolish.

We can look back all we want and say that wasn't right, because our combine cultures have moved in a liberalist direction, but back then it was fine and people didn't know any better, infact you could say that was the turning point where our more liberalist ancestors finally began the process of equality for all people.

However that has nothing to do with EVE and Dust at all, where the cultures developed out of necessity.

Umm, pardon me, but I have some questions: What did the Matari owe the Empire? As a matter of fact, didn't Amarr plan (and still plan) on doing a conquest of the cluster? Plus, didn't they Caldari disrespectfully ditch the Federation, even though we helped them out grow into what they are today?

None of the Races are good. The Federation doesn't bullshit though; We know we're ****** up. We just enjoy it. You think everything you do it good, but in reality, it isn't. At all.

I would never post who i intend to fight for on this forums lol

- Did you know The Elder Fleet of The Minmitar attacked CONCORD (New Eden's police force! The Generally agreed Good Guys!) to knock out they're support & warning systems to go on to attack The Amarr homeworld & once their The Minmitar killed any & all Amarrians on sight while "rightously freeing minmitar servants" along the way. They're madness of killing armed to unarmed innocent Amarr people of ALL ages was ended by Empress Jamyl who showed up out of no where in Aramggedon Ships & utterly crushed The Elder Fleet in seconds saving millions of Amarr lives thus Amarr ships & ground forces pushed back The Elder Fleet.

LOL, Ok, time for some facts...

Here is what happened when the Amarr found the Minmatar:

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-day-of-darkness/

During the time of enslavement (or should I just say "caretaking") of the Minmatar race by the Amarrians, they developed practices like these:

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/slaver/

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/vitoc/

Meanwhile the Minmatar finally won their freedom many generations later, but not without any cost:

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/khuumak/

It was thought that this tribe (the Starkmanir) had been lost to the Amarrian Genocide, but thankfully the Ammatar had been working all the while within the Amarr Empire to protect them until the Thukker Tribe was able to liberate them. Unfortunately Concorde stood in the way of this and that is why there as a standoff between Concorde where the Minmatar gave Concorde an ultimatum about the Amarr releasing the Starkmanir Tribe. Hence this stupid report:


They didn't go in to violate Concorde Treaties and invade Amarrian Space for no reason, they were rescuing what was left of the Starkmanir Tribe before the Amarr found out about their oversight and decided to finish the job of extermination begun all those years ago.

And here's a list of the Minmatar Tribes if you are curious:

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Minmatar_Tribal_Society

Anyways, another thing that many of you Minmatar fighters out there may want to know about is the tradition of the Tattoo in Minmatar Society and how important it is:

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/tattoos/

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/war-tattoos/

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/the-ray-of-matar/

Oh and and here's a cool story about one the starting NPC corps you might have started with in DUST:

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/valklears/

Also remember those "Black Eagle" Suits?

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/black-eagles/

And before there was the discovery of the technology used in DUST clones, there was the acquisition of Capsuleer control technology from the Jovians:

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/the-jovian-wet-grave/

So you can believe the stuff that the Amarr and Caldari say or you can go and find out for yourself.

MATARI POWER!

You tell em, bro

You tell them, bro.

I shoot at Amarr as a theological experiment. I want to see if divine intervention ever happens.

With my HMG I get 2000 data-points a minute, which is good for science.

So far the tests are leaning toward a very strong "No."

To top it off, we have God on our side. Which is why we Amarr are a generous and just people. You're welcome, Minnies. <3

Only reason I chose Gallente is because it reminds me of NYC with all the diversity and whatnot. But i rather be in a Republic than a federation.

The Empire is very ethnically diverse, contrary to many preconceptions

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Amarr_Empire



But again, Dust 514 is no place for research and reasoning

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Amarr_Empire



But again, Dust 514 is no place for research and reasoning

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Gallente_Federation

Unrivaled diversity.

Bam.

Do I need to bring up the stance the Federation has taken with the two racial demographics that wanted to leave the federation?

One they ignore and do not support, and the other they are at war with....

When the Caldari wanted their right to independence and liberty did the Gallente accept that?

**** no!!!!