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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:32:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:
Only a person who hasn't read into Amarr beliefs & systems would say that which makes your statement pretty invalid.
The Amarr treat them as indentured servants & are strictly forbidden to abuse them in anyway unless they do something extremely bad like theft of a holy object or something considered horribly sinful, they do treat them right my referance is a Amarr bloodline choice & the Amarr race descripton.
The Amarr see it as 1's path to religious enlightenment & The Amarr's have as well as can free the servant or servants eventually.
The current Amarr Empress Jamyl ordered the release of MILLIONS of Minmitar servants. Then The Caldari (being allianced to Amarr) whenever they see a servant is released The Caldari have "The Former Slave Trainning Program" I believe it's called, which basically teaches former servants how to be merchants, tradesman & etc. in modern life to help they along.
The current Empress Jamyl also sent a LARGE ISK care package to The Caldari to restabalise they're economy, money from the care package went on to help with many programs & the like SUCH AS "The Former Slave Trainning Program"
During a incident a bad 1 that hit The Gallente the current Empress Jamyl also sent them a ISK care package to help them with the horrible incident, forgot it's name I think it began with a "S"
Now here's a "little" bad about the rightous Minmitar & Gallente
Did you know The Gallente went all concentration/holocaust camp like on Caldari POW's? - Do you recall The Gallente attacked & forced they're power/will on The Caldari homeworld?
Did you know the Minmitar somewhat believe the Gallente are just using them for The Gallente's own power purposes?
Did you know The Minmitar attacked The Gallente in full fitted attack ships over a Minmitar Brute guy that "supposedly killed 12 Gallente citizins in self-defense" & the Minmitar believed he was innocent & The Gallente didn't, so instead of talking the trial over The Minmitar sent attack ships to attack The Gallente? Though it was resolved they did do it.
- Did you know The Elder Fleet of The Minmitar attacked CONCORD (New Eden's police force! The Generally agreed Good Guys!) to knock out they're support & warning systems to go on to attack The Amarr homeworld & once their The Minmitar killed any & all Amarrians on sight while "rightously freeing minmitar servants" along the way. They're madness of killing armed to unarmed innocent Amarr people of ALL ages was ended by Empress Jamyl who showed up out of no where in Aramggedon Ships & utterly crushed The Elder Fleet in seconds saving millions of Amarr lives thus Amarr ships & ground forces pushed back The Elder Fleet.
I post this because I have a feeling that alot of people don't know what is truly happening. I know there is stuff about the caldari and amarr that is bad but this is something very important to look at. Thank you Vinsarrow.
Hiring ringers is called multilateralism. Multilateralism is a good thing it saves lives.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1946
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:34:00 -
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Typical Amarrian propaganda.
Do you like gold as well?
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5582
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:36:00 -
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For my Gallente brethren!
/wears a Minmatar scout suit while holding a Caldari nova knife.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance
552
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:38:00 -
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Answer me this vitally important question:
Do I get cake?
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
362
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:39:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Typical Amarrian propaganda. Do you like gold as well?
I don't know depends do you like duct tape,heretic.
Hiring ringers is called multilateralism. Multilateralism is a good thing it saves lives.
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
4875
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:41:00 -
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Did you know that Amarr isn't Gallente?
Makes your blood boil, doesn't it?
Never forget
How to fix the Logi
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Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
168
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:42:00 -
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American south could free slaves whenever they wanted, that doesn't mean they did often. All sides have done horrible things, doesn't help showing only those of 2 sides. Anyone else think of the Minmatar heavy's design when reading about a brute who killed 12 Gallente.
Level 18 [======== ] Pure Gallente - Preferred Gamemode: PVE
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Awesome Pantaloons
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
162
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:43:00 -
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To top it off, we have God on our side. Which is why we Amarr are a generous and just people. You're welcome, Minnies. <3
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:43:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Typical Amarrian propaganda. Do you like gold as well?
Yes but this is fact not fiction, the records are there to prove this all true. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
592
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:44:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:
Only a person who hasn't read into Amarr beliefs & systems would say that which makes your statement pretty invalid.
The Amarr treat them as indentured servants
Ya know, I really don't think that helps your case.
My logi-code.
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
362
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:45:00 -
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Galthur wrote:American south could free slaves whenever they wanted, that doesn't mean they did often. All sides have done horrible things, doesn't help showing only those of 2 sides. Anyone else think of the Minmatar heavy's design when reading about a brute who killed 12 Gallente.
Yea I know that that showing two sides doesn't show all. Every empire has its problems. I just want to point this out because i have met a lot of people who instantly avoid the amarr because of slavery.
Hiring ringers is called multilateralism. Multilateralism is a good thing it saves lives.
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:48:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:
Only a person who hasn't read into Amarr beliefs & systems would say that which makes your statement pretty invalid.
The Amarr treat them as indentured servants
Ya know, I really don't think that helps your case.
\Why a Holder's duty is to ensure his servants are clothed, fed, kept safe, educated, and in time made into free citizens of the Empire.
Plenty of worth Minmatar are emancipated on a yearly basis. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1949
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:50:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Typical Amarrian propaganda. Do you like gold as well? I don't know depends do you like duct tape,heretic.
Gold on the outside. Rust on the inside.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:51:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Galthur wrote:American south could free slaves whenever they wanted, that doesn't mean they did often. All sides have done horrible things, doesn't help showing only those of 2 sides. Anyone else think of the Minmatar heavy's design when reading about a brute who killed 12 Gallente. Yea I know that that showing two sides doesn't show all. Every empire has its problems. I just want to point this out because i have met a lot of people who instantly avoid the amarr because of slavery.
I want to point out that Amarrian tenets of slavery are not the same as anything from the real world, which by no means anyone could condone with conviction, bringing those sorts of circumstances into a game is just foolish.
We can look back all we want and say that wasn't right, because our combine cultures have moved in a liberalist direction, but back then it was fine and people didn't know any better, infact you could say that was the turning point where our more liberalist ancestors finally began the process of equality for all people.
However that has nothing to do with EVE and Dust at all, where the cultures developed out of necessity. |
Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
34
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:52:00 -
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Slavery and fundamentalism is about as full of win as a scout with a shotgun facing down a tank.
Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:53:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Typical Amarrian propaganda. Do you like gold as well? I don't know depends do you like duct tape,heretic. Gold on the outside. Rust on the inside.
"I like Dakka" said True Adamance..... |
Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:54:00 -
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Tch Tch wrote:Slavery and fundamentalism is about as full of win as a scout with a shotgun facing down a tank.
But its far more interesting in a fictional universe than freedom and liberalism being rammed down your throat.
Gallente and Minmatar are boring. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
140
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:54:00 -
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Umm, pardon me, but I have some questions: What did the Matari owe the Empire? As a matter of fact, didn't Amarr plan (and still plan) on doing a conquest of the cluster? Plus, didn't they Caldari disrespectfully ditch the Federation, even though we helped them out grow into what they are today?
None of the Races are good. The Federation doesn't bullshit though; We know we're ****** up. We just enjoy it. You think everything you do it good, but in reality, it isn't. At all. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
362
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:56:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Umm, pardon me, but I have some questions: What did the Matari owe the Empire? As a matter of fact, didn't Amarr plan (and still plan) on doing a conquest of the cluster? Plus, didn't they Caldari disrespectfully ditch the Federation, even though we helped them out grow into what they are today?
None of the Races are good. The Federation doesn't bullshit though; We know we're ****** up. We just enjoy it. You think everything you do it good, but in reality, it isn't. At all.
I'm just going to repost this
21yrOld Knight wrote:Galthur wrote:American south could free slaves whenever they wanted, that doesn't mean they did often. All sides have done horrible things, doesn't help showing only those of 2 sides. Anyone else think of the Minmatar heavy's design when reading about a brute who killed 12 Gallente. Yea I know that that showing two sides doesn't show all. Every empire has its problems. I just want to point this out because i have met a lot of people who instantly avoid the amarr because of slavery.
Hiring ringers is called multilateralism. Multilateralism is a good thing it saves lives.
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:59:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Umm, pardon me, but I have some questions: What did the Matari owe the Empire? As a matter of fact, didn't Amarr plan (and still plan) on doing a conquest of the cluster? Plus, didn't they Caldari disrespectfully ditch the Federation, even though we helped them out grow into what they are today?
None of the Races are good. The Federation doesn't bullshit though; We know we're ****** up. We just enjoy it. You think everything you do it good, but in reality, it isn't. At all. Again people mistake yet another thread like this. Its not about who is good or better, its about wising people up to the pact that their current "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM" addled notions of what the Gallente and Matari are ....are very very misinformed.
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
362
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:34:00 -
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Leithe Askarii wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Umm, pardon me, but I have some questions: What did the Matari owe the Empire? As a matter of fact, didn't Amarr plan (and still plan) on doing a conquest of the cluster? Plus, didn't they Caldari disrespectfully ditch the Federation, even though we helped them out grow into what they are today?
None of the Races are good. The Federation doesn't bullshit though; We know we're ****** up. We just enjoy it. You think everything you do it good, but in reality, it isn't. At all. Again people mistake yet another thread like this. Its not about who is good or better, its about wising people up to the pact that their current "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM" addled notions of what the Gallente and Matari are ....are very very misinformed.
This is one of the reasons why we are not liked by the Eve community.
Hiring ringers is called multilateralism. Multilateralism is a good thing ,it saves lives.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1593
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:38:00 -
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Amarrians are so arrogant it sickens me.
If you need me, I'll be shoving rounds from my Boundless MD into them.
It's fun watching their armor tankers run in fear. And when I have flux grenades?
My Very First Thread About Tanks
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
362
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Amarrians are so arrogant it sickens me. If you need me, I'll be shoving rounds from my Boundless MD into them. It's fun watching their armor tankers run in fear. And when I have flux grenades?
I have never really meant an arrogant Amarrian. IC and IG
Hiring ringers is called multilateralism. Multilateralism is a good thing ,it saves lives.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5586
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:48:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Amarrians are so arrogant it sickens me. If you need me, I'll be shoving rounds from my Boundless MD into them. It's fun watching their armor tankers run in fear. And when I have flux grenades?
How does it feel to use Minmatar weaponry in the name of the state?
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Amarrians are so arrogant it sickens me. If you need me, I'll be shoving rounds from my Boundless MD into them. It's fun watching their armor tankers run in fear. And when I have flux grenades?
Neither have I tbh the guys from PIE are great, they demand respect and you give it because they deserve it, 10 years of upholding one groups, in one game, values is very impressive. |
Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
391
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Posted - 2013.12.05 02:55:00 -
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Don't forget that the gallente constantly kill their own people to give them cause to bolster their military power. Oh yes, ever heard of the serpentis? The high council of the gallente set them up. As well as the guristas pirates so they could wage an unofficial war against the caldari and steal their research. All of this after they came to the caldari home world and killed millions because the caldari were done with their corrupt bs. You are about as free as a gallente citizen as you are in north Korea. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1222
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Posted - 2013.12.05 03:24:00 -
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I like Minmatar cause I like the idea of playing a "primitive" tribesman with a justified(?) homicidal rage welling within them. Sebiestor strike me as having a very "modern primitive" vibe about them which I greatly enjoy.
I picture them as being very "Verbena + Virtual Adept = Sebiestor Tinkerer"
I guess the whole "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!! **** THE EVIL EMPIRE!!" schtick is just a bonus
*shrug*
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
362
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Posted - 2013.12.05 03:28:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:I like Minmatar cause I like the idea of playing a "primitive" tribesman with a justified(?) homicidal rage welling within them. Sebiestor strike me as having a very "modern primitive" vibe about them which I greatly enjoy.
I picture them as being very "Verbena + Virtual Adept = Sebiestor Tinkerer"
I guess the whole "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!! **** THE EVIL EMPIRE!!" schtick is just a bonus
*shrug*
You have perfectly good reasons to fight for who you are fighting. You know why you are fighting for who you are fighting for.
Hiring ringers is called multilateralism. Multilateralism is a good thing ,it saves lives.
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4550
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Posted - 2013.12.05 03:37:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:I like Minmatar cause I like the idea of playing a "primitive" tribesman with a justified(?) homicidal rage welling within them. Sebiestor strike me as having a very "modern primitive" vibe about them which I greatly enjoy.
I picture them as being very "Verbena + Virtual Adept = Sebiestor Tinkerer"
I guess the whole "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!! **** THE EVIL EMPIRE!!" schtick is just a bonus
*shrug* You have perfectly good reasons to fight for who you are fighting. You know why you are fighting for who you are fighting for.
Yes but the premise is so clich+¬.... there is almost not real room for anything but liberalist hippy and determined hero characters?
Again I come back the point of what the hell don't Minmatar and Gallente players use
Min/ Gal schitozphrenic underworld bruiser, cruel, but utterly loyal to his her faction.
Nope all I have seen thus far is CHAMPION OF FREEDOM characters which A- doesn't rate you very highly in creativity B- predictable and boring. Not to make light of your reasons for supporting min they are as good as any.....but Minmatar don't really have a "soul" as a faction IMO.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
615
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Posted - 2013.12.05 04:03:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Galthur wrote:American south could free slaves whenever they wanted, that doesn't mean they did often. All sides have done horrible things, doesn't help showing only those of 2 sides. Anyone else think of the Minmatar heavy's design when reading about a brute who killed 12 Gallente. Yea I know that that showing two sides doesn't show all. Every empire has its problems. I just want to point this out because i have met a lot of people who instantly avoid the amarr because of slavery.
Mmmmm GǪ yes.
That whole slavery thing.
Puts a bit of a crimp in the "love the Amarr" movement.
My people will never rest until we are free.
Munch
What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
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