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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:25:00 -
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Out of curiosity have any of you got profile damps on your suits, or have the skill?
I find them a fantastic way of staying off of enemy scanners, I fully suggest using them.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
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Mdog 24158
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:25:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Out of curiosity have any of you got profile damps on your suits, or have the skill?
I find them a fantastic way of staying off of enemy scanners, I fully suggest using them. Indeed
Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:27:00 -
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Message from Godin: Yes. On a Gal Scout. At Adv. (almost Proto for both, just another level ). I just find it bullshit that a idiot in a Logi suit can do it better than me.............. |
abarkrishna
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:27:00 -
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No they do not. I use a logi suit with profile dampening 4 and 1 ADV profile dampener and hide from the scanners all the time. It is really easy to get your profile down below 36 DB. They would just rather stack armor.
They call me the C.L.I.T commander.
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noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:27:00 -
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Logically I agree.... but but damps dont let me jump over reds spraying holy shotgun rain
My view on knives..... I DON'T KNOW WHAT IM DOING @_@
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
2038
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:28:00 -
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I get a warm feeling inside everytime I see SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED :)
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:29:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Out of curiosity have any of you got profile damps on your suits, or have the skill?
I find them a fantastic way of staying off of enemy scanners, I fully suggest using them.
I use a Lv3 Scout with Lv5 Prof Damp.
And i still get Scanned.
Use A Med frame,say Amarr Logi A/1 series? with 2 Cx Dam Mods?
And i still get scanned.
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:30:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Logically I agree.... but but damps dont let me jump over reds spraying holy shotgun rain Yes they do: you're not being shot at
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Out of curiosity have any of you got profile damps on your suits, or have the skill?
I find them a fantastic way of staying off of enemy scanners, I fully suggest using them. I use a Lv3 Scout with Lv5 Prof Damp. And i still get Scanned.Use A Med frame,say Amarr Logi A/1 series? with 2 Cx Dam Mods? And i still get scanned. Then you need a level V scout
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:31:00 -
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yes and yes
but I played on an alt that only has lvl 3 in damp and is a minmatar assault and the active scanner spam was awful
I love the concept of the scanner but there is no real drawbacks
also the whole 360 degrees is something that needs to be fixed
and like someone pointed out in the other thread the a45 should be a proto or level 4 scanner with a bit higher cpu & pg
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:33:00 -
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abarkrishna wrote:No they do not. I use a logi suit with profile dampening 4 and 1 ADV profile dampener and hide from the scanners all the time. It is really easy to get your profile down below 36 DB. They would just rather stack armor.
How many dampeners does it take to get below a proto scanner?
Issue goes a little beyond pub matches. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:33:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:I get a warm feeling inside everytime I see SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED :) you shouldn't because they get the message "some marginal error detected. Which means even though they didn't pick you up, they still know that you are there.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:36:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Then you need a level V scout
At level 5 Scout. with 1 cx Profile Dampener there is still 1 scanner that highlights me.
I think this is wrong. Remove The DVLL FOCUSED A.Scanner and everything else its ok....
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2555
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:38:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Then you need a level V scout At level 5 Scout. with 1 cx Profile Dampener there is still 1 scanner that highlights me. I think this is wrong.Remove The DVLL FOCUSED A.Scanner and everything else its ok.... then buff scout's Ewar capabilities.
Please?
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
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Oswald Rehnquist
751
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:39:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Then you need a level V scout At level 5 Scout. with 1 cx Profile Dampener there is still 1 scanner that highlights me. I think this is wrong.Remove The DVLL FOCUSED A.Scanner and everything else its ok....
if they reduce scouts profile signature down from 45 to 40, then a fully skilled scout would be 27 dB
Below 28 dB
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:42:00 -
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I have my Profile Dampening at 5 (on an Assault suit), with no Dampening mods. It is shameful how many times a match I see Scan Attempt Prevented. I'm a bit surprised about scanner QQ. What, do people want squad vision back? What was the point of scanners before squad vision was taken away?
I personally like the scanning mechanic (I have no SP into scanners). Got a bunch of guys in the Corp running the higher level stuff. They are about the most important troops on the field.
If anything, i'd say buff vehicle scanners, make those the top dog scanners. Got a Scout with an ungodly low Db messing with you? Call in the LAV scanner to peep him out. This way Scouts are super sneaky, but can be flushed out with enough effort. This would make top end scanning requier a bit more work than just press and spin.
But all in all, I don't have any problems with scanning as it is now. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:42:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Then you need a level V scout At level 5 Scout. with 1 cx Profile Dampener there is still 1 scanner that highlights me. I think this is wrong.Remove The DVLL FOCUSED A.Scanner and everything else its ok.... then buff scout's Ewar capabilities. Please?
Well actually, If the Duvolle FOCUSED A.Scanner gets removed the scout its already in a GREAT position. Even usable in PC's since they WILL be truly invisible. At level 5 scout with Lv 5 Dampening the Scout can Avoid the really common ADVANCED A.Scanners. This without using Modules. With one BASIC PROFILE DAMPENER he can already fool every Proto Scanner there is,without having to spend too much CPU, wich they heavily lack. Reducing the Scan precision to 40 instead of 45 might work on their favor next to ANOTHER RADAR RANGE increase, to 20mts by default.
If scouts can get to be TRULY invisible in everyones radar,its already a GREAT step towards buffing them...well..US.
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:44:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:I have my Profile Dampening at 5 (on an Assault suit), with no Dampening mods. It is shameful how many times a match I see Scan Attempt Prevented. I'm a bit surprised about scanner QQ. What, do people want squad vision back? What was the point of scanners before squad vision was taken away?
I personally like the scanning mechanic (I have no SP into scanners). Got a bunch of guys in the Corp running the higher level stuff. They are about the most important troops on the field.
If anything, i'd say buff vehicle scanners, make those the top dog scanners. Got a Scout with an ungodly low Db messing with you? Call in the LAV scanner to peep him out. This way Scouts are super sneaky, but can be flushed out with enough effort. This would make top end scanning requier a bit more work than just press and spin.
But all in all, I don't have any problems with scanning as it is now.
You use an ASSAULT SUIT.
Even if you get scanned you can easily fight back.
Try running in a 250 HP scout and get the Message : YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED.
Let me tell you, this is some clown in you bathroom scary a** sh!t... XD
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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abarkrishna
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:46:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:abarkrishna wrote:No they do not. I use a logi suit with profile dampening 4 and 1 ADV profile dampener and hide from the scanners all the time. It is really easy to get your profile down below 36 DB. They would just rather stack armor. How many dampeners does it take to get below a proto scanner? Issue goes a little beyond pub matches.
Who uses proto dampeners? JK but really all suits start at 50 DB The advanced scannners pick up everything over 36 DB.
The proto scanners pick up everything over 28 DB Exept the one that picks up anything over 15 DB) So we take our profile dampening skill and find out the total bonus given.
At level 5 The bonus is 10 percent if i am not mistaken so every suit already has 10 percent subtracted. Which is 5 making your suit have a 45 DB reading. It is basic math. figure it out yourself
Proto dampeners give a 25 percent reduction if i remember correctly. which gives you roughly a DB of 33ish. So i would say at least 2 profile dampeners to avoid most proto scanners. But not many people run them. get below 36 and see for yourself.
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:47:00 -
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What would you think about my "vehicles being required for most accurate scans" idea? |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:47:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:I have my Profile Dampening at 5 (on an Assault suit), with no Dampening mods. It is shameful how many times a match I see Scan Attempt Prevented. I'm a bit surprised about scanner QQ. What, do people want squad vision back? What was the point of scanners before squad vision was taken away?
I personally like the scanning mechanic (I have no SP into scanners). Got a bunch of guys in the Corp running the higher level stuff. They are about the most important troops on the field.
If anything, i'd say buff vehicle scanners, make those the top dog scanners. Got a Scout with an ungodly low Db messing with you? Call in the LAV scanner to peep him out. This way Scouts are super sneaky, but can be flushed out with enough effort. This would make top end scanning requier a bit more work than just press and spin.
But all in all, I don't have any problems with scanning as it is now. You use an ASSAULT SUIT.Even if you get scanned you can easily fight back. Try running in a 250 HP scout and get the Message : YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED. Let me tell you, this is some clown in you bathroom scary a** sh!t... XD You know you can say ass on the forums right?
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:52:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:I have my Profile Dampening at 5 (on an Assault suit), with no Dampening mods. It is shameful how many times a match I see Scan Attempt Prevented. I'm a bit surprised about scanner QQ. What, do people want squad vision back? What was the point of scanners before squad vision was taken away?
I personally like the scanning mechanic (I have no SP into scanners). Got a bunch of guys in the Corp running the higher level stuff. They are about the most important troops on the field.
If anything, i'd say buff vehicle scanners, make those the top dog scanners. Got a Scout with an ungodly low Db messing with you? Call in the LAV scanner to peep him out. This way Scouts are super sneaky, but can be flushed out with enough effort. This would make top end scanning requier a bit more work than just press and spin.
But all in all, I don't have any problems with scanning as it is now. You use an ASSAULT SUIT.Even if you get scanned you can easily fight back. Try running in a 250 HP scout and get the Message : YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED. Let me tell you, this is some clown in you bathroom scary a** sh!t... XD You know you can say ass on the forums right?
I've already been banned before, better safe than sorry huhuuh
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2013.12.01 03:06:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Out of curiosity have any of you got profile damps on your suits, or have the skill?
I find them a fantastic way of staying off of enemy scanners, I fully suggest using them. I use a Lv3 Scout with Lv5 Prof Damp. And i still get Scanned.Use A Med frame,say Amarr Logi A/1 series? with 2 Cx Dam Mods? And i still get scanned. Then you need a level V scout Level V scout and level V Damp does not beat Proto. Scanners without a basic damp fitted One more ******** slot and i would be happy, or one more rum either way
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
524
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Posted - 2013.12.01 03:20:00 -
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You can't use profile damps because you die in less than a half of a second to Proto ARs with damage mods if you don't armor stack. |
CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.12.01 03:37:00 -
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1 mn scout with 1 complex dampeners can avoid most scanners
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.12.01 03:42:00 -
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I wont run damps on my scout, only having two lows I find I need other moduels in them
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2013.12.01 03:43:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:You can't use profile damps because you die in less than a half of a second to Proto ARs with damage mods if you don't armor stack. Don't matter fit the Damp it is better, as a scout you die anyway, just make them work for it
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negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
348
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Posted - 2013.12.01 03:47:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:I get a warm feeling inside everytime I see SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED :)
Scan margin error that way
One day my shotgun will run out ammo
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:04:00 -
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This is honestly why I hate General Discussion. I can put up with peasant trash going blah blah blah. I can even put up with people bading mouthing my skill. What I cannot stand, is players balancing game design on public matches. The assumption is because it was a effective counter in a pub it is therefore balanced .
In PC, people run proto scanners. Therefore, I would need to sacrifice two Highs just to stay off the radar. To a shield tanker that is suicide.
Furthermore, in order for me to counter the scanner I must either sacrifice shield or DPS, yet the opposition sacrifices a equipment slot.
How is that balanced
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:10:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:This is honestly why I hate General Discussion. I can put up with peasant trash going blah blah blah. I can even put up with people bading mouthing my skill. What I cannot stand, is players balancing game design on public matches. The assumption is because it was a effective counter in a pub it is therefore balanced . In PC, people run proto scanners. Therefore, I would need to sacrifice two Highs just to stay off the radar. To a shield tanker that is suicide. Furthermore, in order for me to counter the scanner I must either sacrifice shield or DPS, yet the opposition sacrifices a equipment slot. How is that balanced Umm GǪ never mind someone will point it out
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Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:12:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:This is honestly why I hate General Discussion. I can put up with peasant trash going blah blah blah. I can even put up with people bading mouthing my skill. What I cannot stand, is players balancing game design on public matches. The assumption is because it was a effective counter in a pub it is therefore balanced . In PC, people run proto scanners. Therefore, I would need to sacrifice two Highs just to stay off the radar. To a shield tanker that is suicide. Furthermore, in order for me to counter the scanner I must either sacrifice shield or DPS, yet the opposition sacrifices a equipment slot. How is that balanced
Dampeners are low slots. If you are going to complain get the facts straight first.
I have by default militia or basic dampeners on all my active fits.
So MLT armour, rep and damp.
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mollerz
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:13:00 -
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I run a minja ADV scout with scout lv 5, and prof damp lv 5. I've only played about 50 or so game since recent times and have never been successfully scanned. But also, I have only seen a handful of unsuccessfully scanned msgs.
#shittycoding
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:14:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:This is honestly why I hate General Discussion. I can put up with peasant trash going blah blah blah. I can even put up with people bading mouthing my skill. What I cannot stand, is players balancing game design on public matches. The assumption is because it was a effective counter in a pub it is therefore balanced . In PC, people run proto scanners. Therefore, I would need to sacrifice two Highs just to stay off the radar. To a shield tanker that is suicide. Furthermore, in order for me to counter the scanner I must either sacrifice shield or DPS, yet the opposition sacrifices a equipment slot. How is that balanced Umm GǪ never mind someone will point it out
I see, it really makes no difference because any competent player needs the CPU upgrade.
If you never heard of ReGnYuM, you're neither Good or Relevant in Dust 514.
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:16:00 -
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Tch Tch wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:This is honestly why I hate General Discussion. I can put up with peasant trash going blah blah blah. I can even put up with people bading mouthing my skill. What I cannot stand, is players balancing game design on public matches. The assumption is because it was a effective counter in a pub it is therefore balanced . In PC, people run proto scanners. Therefore, I would need to sacrifice two Highs just to stay off the radar. To a shield tanker that is suicide. Furthermore, in order for me to counter the scanner I must either sacrifice shield or DPS, yet the opposition sacrifices a equipment slot. How is that balanced Dampeners are low slots. If you are going to complain get the facts straight first. I have by default militia or basic dampeners on all my active fits. So MLT armour, rep and damp.
Complain...
You need to STFU little forum trash. I made a mistake but really makes no difference. Dampeners still are not worth it
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Prince Adidas
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:17:00 -
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Scanners shouldn't be a problem. I've had plenty of people scan me and know my EXACT location, but it doesn't matter to me. They come around and find me and I'll KILL ON SIGHT. Like I said in some other forums, it's not always about the gear, it's the player's skill also. A player could have the best scanner in DUST and wouldn't know how to use it properly. Think about that.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:21:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:1 mn scout with 1 complex dampeners can avoid most scanners
Most is NOT enough
Plus,please check my SIG.
Please Support my Active Scanner Thread HERE ==> X
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:40:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Llast 326 wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:This is honestly why I hate General Discussion. I can put up with peasant trash going blah blah blah. I can even put up with people bading mouthing my skill. What I cannot stand, is players balancing game design on public matches. The assumption is because it was a effective counter in a pub it is therefore balanced . In PC, people run proto scanners. Therefore, I would need to sacrifice two Highs just to stay off the radar. To a shield tanker that is suicide. Furthermore, in order for me to counter the scanner I must either sacrifice shield or DPS, yet the opposition sacrifices a equipment slot. How is that balanced Umm GǪ never mind someone will point it out I see, it really makes no difference because any competent player needs the CPU upgrade.
Good players dont need to run medium frame, AR/SCR or damage mods to be good
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:48:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Llast 326 wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:This is honestly why I hate General Discussion. I can put up with peasant trash going blah blah blah. I can even put up with people bading mouthing my skill. What I cannot stand, is players balancing game design on public matches. The assumption is because it was a effective counter in a pub it is therefore balanced . In PC, people run proto scanners. Therefore, I would need to sacrifice two Highs just to stay off the radar. To a shield tanker that is suicide. Furthermore, in order for me to counter the scanner I must either sacrifice shield or DPS, yet the opposition sacrifices a equipment slot. How is that balanced Umm GǪ never mind someone will point it out I see, it really makes no difference because any competent player needs the CPU upgrade. Good players dont need to run medium frame, AR/SCR or damage mods to be good
If that what helps you log on everyday, then good for CCP!
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:50:00 -
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Only proto scanners pick me up and only if im in the dirrection their scanning. They tend to point them at crowds, not behind them.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2566
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Posted - 2013.12.01 04:53:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:Only proto scanners pick me up and only if im in the dirrection their scanning. They tend to point them at crowds, not behind them. Really? The guys I see scanning usually do a little ballerina twirl to get a 360 scan.
And yes I've done this from time to time.
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Stile451
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.01 05:16:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:1 mn scout with 1 complex dampeners can avoid most scanners Most is NOT enough Plus,please check my SIG. It's your choice not to use enough dampeners. It's their choice to use a scanner that only shows you for 2 seconds with a 30 second cool down(not worth it except when against a squad of scouts).
I'm getting page not found in your sig. |
Piercing Serenity
Shattered Ascension Top Men.
439
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Posted - 2013.12.01 05:25:00 -
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I do run dampeners on my suit. I have L3 dampening skill, as well as a basic and enhanced dampener in my low slots to beat advanced scanners. However, since I run a Raven suit in pubs/FW, that means I can't repair myself. i have to use a compact nanohive to get any armor reps.
I haven't done PC battling in a long time, but being able to rep your armor passively was a necessity even then. Since the CPU and PG was dropped, my suit has also needed a CPU upgrade to do anything useful for competitive battles.
Even with all of the "required" skills and equipment to complain, it feels unfair to compete in such a lopsided battle against scanners. On top of that, I am fighting a battle that I can not possibly win no matter what I do. With proto scanners in game, it wouldn't matter if I fit all three low slots with complex dampeners at level five damp skill (whatever its called).
I understand the importance of giving every role a niche. But there is also value in having multiple ways to counter a threat. Not "I hope you're in a Galente Scout suit" as the only option.
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Posted - 2013.12.01 05:35:00 -
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I'm lucky to be in a logi suit that only has to use one complex dampener to barely get under adv scaners.
Assaults need at least two dampeners just for adv, and even more if they want to beat proto scanners. There also isn't any way to counter scanners, like a radar or TacNet jammer...so yes there is a problem with the dB system and dampeners...maybe not scanners themselves
Honestly, dampeners need to be changed so that one complex will allow any medium suit to get under adv, and any scout to get under proto.
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T8R Raid
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:13:00 -
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There's one way past it, get a proto logi, grab a Creodron Focused Active Scanner and swap weapon and switch equipment until that scanner is so jumbled into your scrambler rifle, that whenever you fire it also scans. 15 db scan for 100 meters CONSTANT. No proto scout with complex dampeners will be able to hide. |
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The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:29:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Out of curiosity have any of you got profile damps on your suits, or have the skill?
I find them a fantastic way of staying off of enemy scanners, I fully suggest using them.
The problem isn't the advanced level scanner...its the prototype one that could scan the signature of an ant. Which can be spammed nonstop, killing any chance of stealth.
Level 5 Proficiency in Tupperware handling.
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:36:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:abarkrishna wrote:No they do not. I use a logi suit with profile dampening 4 and 1 ADV profile dampener and hide from the scanners all the time. It is really easy to get your profile down below 36 DB. They would just rather stack armor. How many dampeners does it take to get below a proto scanner? Issue goes a little beyond pub matches.
Two complex dampeners will get you under 4 of the 5 proto scanners. As for the 5th proto scanner...... its just not worth it dude.
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Zelorian Dexter snr
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:41:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:I get a warm feeling inside everytime I see SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED :)
There is one thing that I think should be removed the some margin of error message. Even though you cant be painted we still know your there. Kinda spoils the stealth element. |
Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2013.12.01 15:05:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Out of curiosity have any of you got profile damps on your suits, or have the skill?
I find them a fantastic way of staying off of enemy scanners, I fully suggest using them. I use a Lv3 Scout with Lv5 Prof Damp. And i still get Scanned.Use A Med frame,say Amarr Logi A/1 series? with 2 Cx Dam Mods? And i still get scanned.
Lvl 5 Dampening + 2 Comp. Dampening Mods, on an Amarr Logi, gets you a Profile of 27db.
Enough to dodge every scanner but the Flux
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.12.01 16:28:00 -
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abarkrishna wrote:No they do not. I use a logi suit with profile dampening 4 and 1 ADV profile dampener and hide from the scanners all the time. It is really easy to get your profile down below 36 DB. They would just rather stack armor.
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