DUST Search - Bring Bounty's to DUST?

Avinash Decker wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Guys, again, we're mercenaries here. Most of us go where the money flows. If you want to fight for honor or for a faction, go right ahead. You have that freedom anyways. But for me, I'll be fighting for the almighty ISK and these bounties are a great incentive.

Being mercenaries doesn't really matter when it comes to the game mechanics and what actually happens in the game. Players are more or less mercs as much as the soldiers in BF and COD for example. Players might be mercs in lore , but lore isn't a reflection on what actually goes on in the game.

And you wouldn't get the money or that much if you constantly cause your team to lose. It works in eve because you can actively loot anyone and you aren't forced in teams ; said teams are needed to progress in basically everything in Dust 514 which is accomplished by winning.

If a group of players is running around trying to kill random bounties and not kill more immediate threats and capture objectives, it would lead to game loses which means less money and SP(which are very crucial to progress through the game) , which leads people getting frustrated which then leads to people leaving the game sooner. The problem gets worse in FW I don't need to explain the problems with that.

CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.

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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5416	Posted - 2013.11.30 20:36:00 - [61] - Quote Yagihige wrote: It would only mean that a bunch of players would play the game not for the team but for their selfish intention Um, we're mercenaries. We're suppose to be selfish. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 408	Posted - 2013.11.30 20:41:00 - [62] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Yagihige wrote: It would only mean that a bunch of players would play the game not for the team but for their selfish intention Um, we're mercenaries. We're suppose to be selfish. The game rewards for playing the objective. Introducing an element that would take away that and have players win more money by ignoring the objectives by hunting down a specific target would damage the dynamics of the game. You already realized that being a lobby shooter makes this idea hard to achieve, so let's take this idea toward those who aren't stuck in the lobby system, the EVE pilots. It would work with their participation. em ta kool t'nod
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5416	Posted - 2013.11.30 20:42:00 - [63] - Quote Guys, again, we're mercenaries here. Most of us go where the money flows. If you want to fight for honor or for a faction, go right ahead. You have that freedom anyways. But for me, I'll be fighting for the almighty ISK and these bounties are a great incentive. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5416	Posted - 2013.11.30 20:46:00 - [64] - Quote Yagihige wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Yagihige wrote: It would only mean that a bunch of players would play the game not for the team but for their selfish intention Um, we're mercenaries. We're suppose to be selfish. The game rewards for playing the objective. Introducing an element that would take away that and have players win more money by ignoring the objectives by hunting down a specific target would damage the dynamics of the game. You already realized that being a lobby shooter makes this idea hard to achieve, so let's take this idea toward those who aren't stuck in the lobby system, the EVE pilots. It would work with their participation. You're quickly forgetting that these objective-based matches we have can also have their outcomes greatly affected by your clone count. I can win any match in one of three ways... 1. Capture and hold the objectives until the enemy MCC is destroyed. 2. Pay a spy or AWOXer on the opposite team to constantly suicide himself to help bring the clone count down. 3. Place bounties on targets and let the masses go to town with bringing down the enemy's clone count even further.* Take your pick. * - ok that 3rd part is not in yet, but I can dream. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
MPX Shad Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation 46	Posted - 2013.11.30 21:40:00 - [65] - Quote Will be chatting a bit on this topic tonight on Podside Podcast starting at 830pm PST/1130pm ET Check it out live here S8.multiplexgaming.com & go to our twitch.tv/mpxgaming to watch so DUST Live stream Chat in game on the "Podside" channel or at Multipexgaming.com[/quote] Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE & MPXPrimetime
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 368	Posted - 2013.11.30 21:47:00 - [66] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: Will be chatting a bit on this topic tonight on Podside Podcast starting at 830pm PST/1130pm ET Check it out live here S8.multiplexgaming.com & go to our twitch.tv/mpxgaming to watch so DUST Live stream Chat in game on the "Podside" channel or at Multipexgaming.com [/quote] Should be a good chat. I'm going to try to pop on of this one.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5421	Posted - 2013.11.30 22:11:00 - [67] - Quote Damn it. I'll be busy by that time. Let me know when you got it all recorded. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Fire9er Greko Imperfect Bastards 112	Posted - 2013.11.30 22:51:00 - [68] - Quote we just do them in match. 50k per ccp kill is the average they bumped my money made that match by 200k isk.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5422	Posted - 2013.11.30 23:04:00 - [69] - Quote Fire9er Greko wrote: we just do them in match. 50k per ccp kill is the average they bumped my money made that match by 200k isk. I can imagine the bounty prices on their heads. CCP Logibro = 5 Million CCP Frame = 10 million CCP LogicLoop = 0.01 CCP Cmdr Wang = 1 million It would be fun collecting those bounties. lol CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
MPX Shad Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation 48	Posted - 2013.12.01 14:27:00 - [70] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Fire9er Greko wrote: we just do them in match. 50k per ccp kill is the average they bumped my money made that match by 200k isk. I can imagine the bounty prices on their heads. CCP Logibro = 5 Million CCP Frame = 10 million CCP LogicLoop = 0.01 CCP Cmdr Wang = 1 million It would be fun collecting those bounties. lol If Cmdr Wang played a bit more I'd put 20 mill on him alone Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE & MPXPrimetime

Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 89	Posted - 2013.12.01 17:59:00 - [71] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Guys, again, we're mercenaries here. Most of us go where the money flows. If you want to fight for honor or for a faction, go right ahead. You have that freedom anyways. But for me, I'll be fighting for the almighty ISK and these bounties are a great incentive. Being mercenaries doesn't really matter when it comes to the game mechanics and what actually happens in the game. Players are more or less mercs as much as the soldiers in BF and COD for example. Players might be mercs in lore , but lore isn't a reflection on what actually goes on in the game. And you wouldn't get the money or that much if you constantly cause your team to lose. It works in eve because you can actively loot anyone and you aren't forced in teams ; said teams are needed to progress in basically everything in Dust 514 which is accomplished by winning. If a group of players is running around trying to kill random bounties and not kill more immediate threats and capture objectives, it would lead to game loses which means less money and SP(which are very crucial to progress through the game) , which leads people getting frustrated which then leads to people leaving the game sooner. The problem gets worse in FW I don't need to explain the problems with that.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5449	Posted - 2013.12.01 18:47:00 - [72] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Guys, again, we're mercenaries here. Most of us go where the money flows. If you want to fight for honor or for a faction, go right ahead. You have that freedom anyways. But for me, I'll be fighting for the almighty ISK and these bounties are a great incentive. Being mercenaries doesn't really matter when it comes to the game mechanics and what actually happens in the game. Players are more or less mercs as much as the soldiers in BF and COD for example. Players might be mercs in lore , but lore isn't a reflection on what actually goes on in the game. And you wouldn't get the money or that much if you constantly cause your team to lose. It works in eve because you can actively loot anyone and you aren't forced in teams ; said teams are needed to progress in basically everything in Dust 514 which is accomplished by winning. If a group of players is running around trying to kill random bounties and not kill more immediate threats and capture objectives, it would lead to game loses which means less money and SP(which are very crucial to progress through the game) , which leads people getting frustrated which then leads to people leaving the game sooner. The problem gets worse in FW I don't need to explain the problems with that. So? Dealing with unruly players is part of the game. It's also part of the meta gaming aspect of Dust 514 which CCP encourages. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.


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