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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.01 05:55:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Atiim wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I thought Judge was also specced extensively into AV on alts? I'm also specced into HAVs. Should I be apart of the CPM on vehicles? (Not saying Judge is incapable, in fact he's quite the opposite) Think about it this way, if we have a Democrat in Congress, shouldn't we also have a Republican? (You may not understand this if you don't live in the US) Hell no and no that is flawed either way you cut it if you have 2 parties they block each other and nothing ever gets done *cough* *cough* the republicans, but if you had 1 party even if it was the one I support it gives them too much power and is the path towards corruption. Exactly my point.
With the community's thought procces about having a "Scout" CPM or a "Heavy" CPM, we would be f***ed if we have somebody who is part of one class and not the other. Lets face facts here, Judge won't be a CPM forever, and we won't always have a person like Judge on the CPM. (Especially from the pilot community).
If we have both parties on the CPM, then we most likely won't get anything done. If we have only one party on the CPM, then the other party would be screwed because the party in power would make either make themselves "OP" or make the other party "UP". I personally would rather have both parties on the CPM because while we wouldn't be nearly as efficient, we definetly wouldn't create another, even bigger problem.
Imagine this, what if an AV specialist got a spot on the CPM but not a vehicle pilot?
What if a person known for spamming Locus Grenades while using a medium frame and the ever so infamous "Duvolle Assault Rifle"was given a spot on the CPM (somehow) but we didn't have a person on the CPM who was a seasoned Scout or Heavy? Guess what classes would be f***ed? (Even more than they already are).
Basically, we're f***ed either way, but having both parties on the board would make us less "f***ed".
And please tell me why any class in this game should not get representation on the CPM? Especially one of the most important ones that about a quarter of this game's content is balanced around.
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T8R Raid
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:06:00 -
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Dude, the CPM doesn't want the game to get better, they just want to respec into the flavor of the month. I was convinced the CPM wasnt a joke until i saw some proof in a thread as the whole CPM wanted a respec for infantry because CCP is completely overhauling vehicles. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:16:00 -
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T8R Raid wrote:Dude, the CPM doesn't want the game to get better, they just want to respec into the flavor of the month. I was convinced the CPM wasn't a joke until i saw some proof in a thread as the whole CPM wanted a respec for infantry because CCP is completely overhauling vehicles. Since the Combat Rifle is being released in the next update, I would really need and benifit from a respec because that would allow me to spec out of my "placeholder" and into the weapon that was finally released by CCP.
And as much as I want a respec, I won't deny the fact that a respec should be saved for when all of the racial suits are finally released.
As for skilling into the next FoTM, I doubt everyone who wants a respec wants one simply for the ability to spec into a FoTM.
And with the fact that this game's current skill tree would take around 6+ years to complete (and it's not even finished yet); We will need a respec at some point in time.
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eheh. Is there a problem? Do you believe that AV shouldn't get a spot on the CPM? I think that trying to compose a CPM of one representative for each playstyle is going a bit overboard.
More than him being a vehicle specialist, Judge seems like a guy with a good head on his shoulders and who's willing to take feedback. Besides, I think you can safely lump Vehicles and AV into one package. CCP Wolfman is handling both now, after all, and 1.7 seems to show that he knows what he's doing.
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2013.12.01 07:25:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eheh. I would trust Judge to be a relatively unbiased person.
We don't even know much about what's happening with CPM1, so this is completely pointless anyway. He's not unbiased. No one who calls for blanket nerfs can be.
But I think a council with him and KING CHECKMATE would be hilariously entertaining. Might even be productive.
"She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71
310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:03:00 -
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dogmanpig wrote:lol... IWS is an AV grunt. How so?
I've yet to see him even comment on AV.
Then again, I don't read most of his posts
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:11:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eheh. I would trust Judge to be a relatively unbiased person.
We don't even know much about what's happening with CPM1, so this is completely pointless anyway. He's not unbiased. No one who calls for blanket nerfs can be. But I think a council with him and KING CHECKMATE would be hilariously entertaining. Might even be productive.
No, as much as I like King.....no.....
3 weeks ago maybe, but Atiim compromised him.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eheh. I would trust Judge to be a relatively unbiased person.
We don't even know much about what's happening with CPM1, so this is completely pointless anyway. He's not unbiased. No one who calls for blanket nerfs can be. But I think a council with him and KING CHECKMATE would be hilariously entertaining. Might even be productive. No, as much as I like King.....no..... 3 weeks ago maybe, but Atiim compromised him. How? KING CHECKMATE's opinions and thoughts are independent of mine.
And how can I corrupt anyone? I speak the truth, and only the truth. All of which can be replicated on the battlefield.
I wish I could say the same about pilots, especially those who say that PRO AV can OHK their "good" tank
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eheh. I would trust Judge to be a relatively unbiased person.
We don't even know much about what's happening with CPM1, so this is completely pointless anyway. He's not unbiased. No one who calls for blanket nerfs can be. But I think a council with him and KING CHECKMATE would be hilariously entertaining. Might even be productive. No, as much as I like King.....no..... 3 weeks ago maybe, but Atiim compromised him.
Still , if AV'ers ever get a CPM, he must know extensively about vehicles and be a True AV'er (Every time you see a vehicle, you go for it).
Not a vehicle user that happens to have Proto AV weaponry. Like many tankers calling themselves AV specialists....
Just saying :3
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:20:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eheh. I would trust Judge to be a relatively unbiased person.
We don't even know much about what's happening with CPM1, so this is completely pointless anyway. He's not unbiased. No one who calls for blanket nerfs can be. But I think a council with him and KING CHECKMATE would be hilariously entertaining. Might even be productive. No, as much as I like King.....no..... 3 weeks ago maybe, but Atiim compromised him. How? KING CHECKMATE's opinions and thoughts are independent of mine. And how can I corrupt anyone? I speak the truth, and only the truth. All of which can be replicated on the battlefield. I wish I could say the same about pilots, especially those who say that PRO AV can OHK their "good" tank
You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting....
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:21:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eheh. I would trust Judge to be a relatively unbiased person.
We don't even know much about what's happening with CPM1, so this is completely pointless anyway. He's not unbiased. No one who calls for blanket nerfs can be. But I think a council with him and KING CHECKMATE would be hilariously entertaining. Might even be productive. No, as much as I like King.....no..... 3 weeks ago maybe, but Atiim compromised him. Still , if AV'ers ever get a CPM, he must know extensively about vehicles and be a True AV'er (Every time you see a vehicle, you go for it). Not a vehicle user that happens to have Proto AV weaponry.Like many tankers calling themselves AV specialists.... Just saying :3
I have proto AV, proto grenades, and a decent eye for Rail Turret shots.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:24:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting....
No, see that's how pretty much all Amarrians are, including their empress.
Please don't compare me to the empress. I find it a vulgar insult to myself to be compared to something as corrupt as that.
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting....
No, see that's how pretty much all Amarrians are, including their empress. Please don't compare me to the empress. I find it a vulgar insult to myself to be compared to something as corrupt as that.
As it was designed to be knowing you.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eheh. I would trust Judge to be a relatively unbiased person.
We don't even know much about what's happening with CPM1, so this is completely pointless anyway. He's not unbiased. No one who calls for blanket nerfs can be. But I think a council with him and KING CHECKMATE would be hilariously entertaining. Might even be productive. No, as much as I like King.....no..... 3 weeks ago maybe, but Atiim compromised him. Still , if AV'ers ever get a CPM, he must know extensively about vehicles and be a True AV'er (Every time you see a vehicle, you go for it). Not a vehicle user that happens to have Proto AV weaponry.Like many tankers calling themselves AV specialists.... Just saying :3 I have proto AV, proto grenades, and a decent eye for Rail Turret shots.
And yet i'll bet you'll do better/Enjoy more with a Tank and i'll do better with AV weaponry. There by , you are a tanker. I am (was) an AV specialist.
BTW Atiim cannot corrupt me. I have my way to think stuff apart. Plus attim is not a bad person,he just puts a lot of soul in AV weaponry discussions and shows it.
Me; i consider myself cool headed and try to be as unbiased as possible,but when SPR4, Void , or some other Tanker QQ specialist appears they just talk so much nonsense i flip...
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting....
No, see that's how pretty much all Amarrians are, including their empress. Please don't compare me to the empress. I find it a vulgar insult to myself to be compared to something as corrupt as that.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:32:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting....
No, see that's how pretty much all Amarrians are, including their empress. Please don't compare me to the empress. I find it a vulgar insult to myself to be compared to something as corrupt as that. Message from Godin: Nobody should be compared to that *****.......
**** happens...HTFU
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting....
No, see that's how pretty much all Amarrians are, including their empress. Please don't compare me to the empress. I find it a vulgar insult to myself to be compared to something as corrupt as that. Message from Godin: Nobody should be compared to that *****....... **** happens...HTFU I find that funny coming from a tanker......
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:38:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting....
No, see that's how pretty much all Amarrians are, including their empress. Please don't compare me to the empress. I find it a vulgar insult to myself to be compared to something as corrupt as that. Message from Godin: Nobody should be compared to that *****....... **** happens...HTFU I find that funny coming from a tanker......
I have active hardeners, I can be as hard as I was (yes innuendo)...... squishy bugs like you go splat when hit by rail gun.
Btw why can't I crush people anymore.....
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:43:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eheh. I would trust Judge to be a relatively unbiased person.
We don't even know much about what's happening with CPM1, so this is completely pointless anyway. He's not unbiased. No one who calls for blanket nerfs can be. But I think a council with him and KING CHECKMATE would be hilariously entertaining. Might even be productive. No, as much as I like King.....no..... 3 weeks ago maybe, but Atiim compromised him. Still , if AV'ers ever get a CPM, he must know extensively about vehicles and be a True AV'er (Every time you see a vehicle, you go for it). Not a vehicle user that happens to have Proto AV weaponry.Like many tankers calling themselves AV specialists.... Just saying :3
Message from Godin: So any vet pilot that really skilled into PROTO AV (and uses it a lot) would do. Think about it: we see another ADS or HAV get dropped. We meet up face to face, and what do we do. Try as hard as we can to rip it to ******* shreds. No survivors. That would make us know a lot about our vehicles, and their weaknessess, like where they would go if they took fire, routes the enemy can take, etc., and would make us excellent AV'ers. I can say that it does. It's so easy to take out a good 10 mil ISk worth of vehicles in a game solo for me, not because of the PROTO AV, because I can just watch them move and **** stomp the **** out of them. Not all of us are, but the few who gets it, they really do.
To give you of an example of what I have ingrained into my head from a good thousand or so hours of piloting and AVing: Scare away a DS by firing 1 swarm at it. Wait for it to return in in a dive, and fire all three shots at them. Unless they are particularly good at DS piloting, they shouldn't survive. For this, you would want to get as high as possible. Works well on Logi DS's due to harder time coming out of dives, Even more so when they are picking people up due to heavy weight of ship.
-notes from Godin's book of vehicle fighting, update 1.6 |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.03 03:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting....
No, see that's how pretty much all Amarrians are, including their empress. Please don't compare me to the empress. I find it a vulgar insult to myself to be compared to something as corrupt as that. Message from Godin: Nobody should be compared to that *****....... **** happens...HTFU
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