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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1442	Posted - 2013.11.29 23:45:00 - [1] - Quote Ok, so the community has already agreed that they want Judge Rhadamanthus as the CPM in terms of vehicles and it's operation But what about the Anti-Vehicle community? Do we get representation on the CPM? Or is CCP going to ignore yet another part of the community? If AV doesn't get a spot on the CPM, I can guarantee that this could quite possibly make AV the most unused classes, as there would be no way of relaying any problem(s) that might be present within the class as a whole to CCP. Leading to the same problem Heavies and Scouts had to deal with (and are still dealing with) before the "buff". However; If we do get a spot on the CPM1, who do you think it should be? I would run personally, but I have absolutely no time to be apart of the CPM with my college and work. So if I had the option, I would nominate KING CHECKMATE, as he is far more qualified for the position than I, and while I hate to say this so aggressively; he is far more tolerant in terms of "BS" and extreme laps of judgement and/or logic from others. But don't let my idea(s) sway or deter you from nominating someone else, or even yourself as a whole. -HAND Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1442	Posted - 2013.11.29 23:46:00 - [2] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Eheh. Is there a problem? Do you believe that AV shouldn't get a spot on the CPM? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1447	Posted - 2013.11.30 00:02:00 - [3] - Quote Harpyja wrote: I say, let us have vehicle representation and no AV representation. Let's put AV through 6 months of nerfs and vehicles through 6 months of buffs So basically, your admitting to being an HAV Crusadier who thinks that it's best for the counter of your class to not have representation on the CPM for the sheer sake of being better for six months? You believe that creating Tank 514 and making vehicles the biggest FoTM this game has ever seen for a peroid of 6 months will solve anything? I had no part in the vehicle nerf, so why you are saying this is both misgiuded and irrelevant. But I will guide you in a direction I'm sure you belong in: World Of Tanks Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1447	Posted - 2013.11.30 00:08:00 - [4] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Eheh. Is there a problem? Do you believe that AV shouldn't get a spot on the CPM? It has nothing to do with what they do in game, and everything to do what they can offer the CPM I think KING CHECKMATE can offer a lot to the CPM, so what's your point? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1447	Posted - 2013.11.30 00:13:00 - [5] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I thought Judge was also specced extensively into AV on alts? I'm also specced into HAVs. Should I be apart of the CPM on vehicles? (Not saying Judge is incapable, in fact he's quite the opposite) Think about it this way, if we have a Democrat in Congress, shouldn't we also have a Republican? (You may not understand this if you don't live in the US) Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1447	Posted - 2013.11.30 00:16:00 - [6] - Quote Shokhann Echo wrote: walks in ..................Facepalm walks out Atiim wrote: So basically, your admitting to being an HAV Crusadier who thinks that it's best for the counter of your class to not have representation on the CPM for the sheer sake of being better for six months? You believe that creating Tank 514 and making vehicles the biggest FoTM this game has ever seen for a peroid of 6 months will solve anything? I had no part in the vehicle nerf, so why you are saying this is both misgiuded and irrelevant. But I will guide you in a direction I'm sure you belong in: World Of Tanks Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1448	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:40:00 - [7] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Eheh. Is there a problem? Do you believe that AV shouldn't get a spot on the CPM? No - AV should not get a spot. Infantry is the AV role - if you're pure AV you're playing this game wrong or have no aspirations to be any good on a competitive level. Basically - anyone who understands Infantry should also understand AV. With that logic, basically anyone who understands assault should also understand heavies, along with scouts, and snipers. And I don't see why if HAVs get a spot, the sole class that it is balanced against should not get a spot. That's like offering North Korea a spot in the UN but telling South Korea to go f*** itself. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1448	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:51:00 - [8] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Jesus Atiim, why are you so angry all the time? Also why do you make so many concpiracys? Judge doesn't want vehicles to be overpowered or flavors of the month. He has stated this several times, which is why he is a good choice. What you think he is just gonna tell ccp to make vehicles overpowered? That's not judge. What reason do I have not to be angry? And where have I stated or implied that I believe that Judge want's vehicles to be overpowered of a FoTM? In fact, I believe that I've stated quite the contrary. I'm just saying, if we get a Vehicle CPM, we should get an Anti-Vehicle CPM. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1448	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:07:00 - [9] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: Excuse me, but case to explain how you view my logic? Because your response made you look very, very dumb. There are, obviously, different types of infantry. But AV is one role that can be only handled in one or maybe two ways. And now I understand this thread better - you're butt hurt that a tanker could get a spot but not your precious AV. Neither of you will get a spot - Only community role models are getting CPM, not role specific players. Can you name any current CPM whose even really even half decent at the game? You're not even well liked, or considered fondly. You're more on my level - despised for every post. You couldn't be further away from the truth. There are more ways to handle the role of AV then there are complete roles in this entire game. Butthurt? Why would I be butthurt over Judge getting a spot on the CPM? The only thing I said is that I would also like an Anti-Vehicle CPM on the CPM1 board as well. I just so happened to come prepared for the HAV purist group that I like to label "LOLTank Brigade", along with people who think that AV doesn't deserve or need a spot on the CPM And you say "precious AV" as if I'm an AV crusader who would like nothing better than to OHK every vehicle in sight. In reality, I'm actually quite fond of vehicles. Especially LLAVs. You can like me, dislike me, or make a freaking voodoo doll of me and jab pins into it like your Micheal Myers. I couldn't care. It wouldn't make what I'm saying any more or less true or credible. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1448	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:08:00 - [10] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Eheh. Is there a problem? Do you believe that AV shouldn't get a spot on the CPM? Not unless there is a vehicle purist Why would I want a vehicle purist in the CPM? I wouldn't even want an AV purist in the CPM. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1448	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:23:00 - [11] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Eheh. Is there a problem? Do you believe that AV shouldn't get a spot on the CPM? Based on this post I can tell what kind of supporter you are plus less then 1% of the player base doesn't represent the community. So me believing that every class including AV should have at least 1 spot on the CPM is wrong? I can clearly see what kind of supporter you are then. And that less than 1% of the playerbase statement is incredibly false.That would mean that only 30-40 people are skilled into AV in this entire game. And even if that statistic was true, that 1% of the playerbase is all that stands in the way between DUST 514 and Tank 514. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1448	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:35:00 - [12] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: Awesome - you don't care what people think. I'm sure you'll win a ton of votes if elections are ever made. And ignoring my snide remarks that you took literal, you could explain what these 'other ways to AV' are? Far as I know, there's Forge, Swarms, nades, RE's and other tanks. But I wouldn't refer tank vs tank as AV. There are always people who will dislike you. I don't believe you understand what I'm saying so maybe I should put it in a more broader term for you. Atiim wrote: I could honestly care less if you dislike me me. If you really think that you disliking me will change anything then you can wait in line with the others. You want to know more ways of AVing? Ambush the target "Snipe" the target Hit and Run Corner the target The ye old "yolonade" trick. Saturate the target Orbital Strike the target (though I don't think that would really count as AV) Plasma Cannons Shoot the gunners out of the vehicle, rendering the vehicle near useless. (Only works on DSs and LAVs) etc. etc. etc. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1455	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:22:00 - [13] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: Harpyja wrote: I say, let us have vehicle representation and no AV representation. Let's put AV through 6 months of nerfs and vehicles through 6 months of buffs just like what happend with the LOLswarms. i played a few games yesterday where std and adv swarms were in abundance of 2-3 people and thier damage was equivlent to just 1 wykomi thats how big of a gap there is between std-adv-proto AV weapons. Why is there a problem with this? I think all weapons should have a similar gap between MLT/STD and PRO. It's called getting what you paid for. Similar to how Complex mods on vehicles make much more of a difference than MLT/STD mods. (Except hardners. Only a 10% increase from STD to PRO tier? Really CCP?) Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1456	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:29:00 - [14] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: IWS is prob about as anti vehicle as you can get He already doesnt want vehicles in the game let alone have proto vehicles while infantry keep proto AV Umm. He wants to remove the entire STD-ADV-PRO tier system from all classes. And where has he said that he wants vehicles removed? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1460	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:50:00 - [15] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atiim wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: IWS is prob about as anti vehicle as you can get He already doesnt want vehicles in the game let alone have proto vehicles while infantry keep proto AV Umm. He wants to remove the entire STD-ADV-PRO tier system from all classes. And where has he said that he wants vehicles removed? All classes? lolno he wants it for vehicles only so they are useless in game With his pointless forums posts and actions Considering the "logic" pilots used to say that I'm on an AV Crusade, I'm going to call "BS" on that claim untill you can supply actual proof that he said he want's vehicles removed, as well as a link to the original quote itself. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1464	Posted - 2013.11.30 18:06:00 - [16] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Something most players don't get is that vehicle users (only DS and HAV pilots) have both sides of experience im fully specced into AV and still think its op. I'm also specced into AV, and I honestly could care less if the CPM for vehicles is also specced into AV. That's like voting for a Democratic president because he has 1 or 2 similar views as the Republican party, and vice versa. Who's to stop a vehicle CPM from making AV useless? CCP? They fail terribly at balancing. And let's put another spin on things, I am AV but I'm also specced into HAVs. Do you think I'm qualified to make balancing decisions on HAVs? (I don't think Judge will do something like that, but let's face facts. Not every vehicle CPM is going to be like Judge, and Judge won't be the vehicle CPM forever) And I wouldn't trust a pilot to make an unbiased, perfectly balanced decision in terms of AV. Just like pilots wouldn't trust a member of the AV community to make unbiased and perfectly balanced decisions in terms of vehicles. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1480	Posted - 2013.12.01 02:46:00 - [17] - Quote kayn TARON wrote: Face it no one likes you, nor takes any post you say serious lol. You wonder why you are never invited into squad from most of the big general chats :p I'd invite you just to kick you lol. And I care why? What will people disliking me do? It won't make what what I'm saying any less true or credible. And actually, when I LFS, I do get invited to squads I just rarely LFS in #SAND CASTLES. The only reason I have that channel in the first place is because some of my friends from D3LTA Academy and D3LTA FORC3 decided to go to Molon Labe. I do miss them though. It was fun stealing kills from Eldest and going rambo on everyone just have Katty save my sorry a$$ 10 seconds later. (Also, were you in D3LTA? I swear I remember you from somewhere) My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1488	Posted - 2013.12.01 05:55:00 - [18] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Atiim wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I thought Judge was also specced extensively into AV on alts? I'm also specced into HAVs. Should I be apart of the CPM on vehicles? (Not saying Judge is incapable, in fact he's quite the opposite) Think about it this way, if we have a Democrat in Congress, shouldn't we also have a Republican? (You may not understand this if you don't live in the US) Hell no and no that is flawed either way you cut it if you have 2 parties they block each other and nothing ever gets done cough cough the republicans, but if you had 1 party even if it was the one I support it gives them too much power and is the path towards corruption. Exactly my point. With the community's thought procces about having a "Scout" CPM or a "Heavy" CPM, we would be f*ed if we have somebody who is part of one class and not the other. Lets face facts here, Judge won't be a CPM forever, and we won't always have a person like Judge on the CPM. (Especially from the pilot community). If we have both parties on the CPM, then we most likely won't get anything done. If we have only one party on the CPM, then the other party would be screwed because the party in power would make either make themselves "OP" or make the other party "UP". I personally would rather have both parties on the CPM because while we wouldn't be nearly as efficient, we definetly wouldn't create another, even bigger problem. Imagine this, what if an AV specialist got a spot on the CPM but not a vehicle pilot? What if a person known for spamming Locus Grenades while using a medium frame and the ever so infamous "Duvolle Assault Rifle"was given a spot on the CPM (somehow) but we didn't have a person on the CPM who was a seasoned Scout or Heavy? Guess what classes would be fed? (Even more than they already are). Basically, we're fed either way, but having both parties on the board would make us less "f*ed". And please tell me why any class in this game should not get representation on the CPM? Especially one of the most important ones that about a quarter of this game's content is balanced around. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1488	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:16:00 - [19] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: Dude, the CPM doesn't want the game to get better, they just want to respec into the flavor of the month. I was convinced the CPM wasn't a joke until i saw some proof in a thread as the whole CPM wanted a respec for infantry because CCP is completely overhauling vehicles. Since the Combat Rifle is being released in the next update, I would really need and benifit from a respec because that would allow me to spec out of my "placeholder" and into the weapon that was finally released by CCP. And as much as I want a respec, I won't deny the fact that a respec should be saved for when all of the racial suits are finally released. As for skilling into the next FoTM, I doubt everyone who wants a respec wants one simply for the ability to spec into a FoTM. And with the fact that this game's current skill tree would take around 6+ years to complete (and it's not even finished yet); We will need a respec at some point in time. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1542	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:03:00 - [20] - Quote dogmanpig wrote: lol... IWS is an AV grunt. How so? I've yet to see him even comment on AV. Then again, I don't read most of his posts My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1543	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:17:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Eheh. I would trust Judge to be a relatively unbiased person. We don't even know much about what's happening with CPM1, so this is completely pointless anyway. He's not unbiased. No one who calls for blanket nerfs can be. But I think a council with him and KING CHECKMATE would be hilariously entertaining. Might even be productive. No, as much as I like King.....no..... 3 weeks ago maybe, but Atiim compromised him. How? KING CHECKMATE's opinions and thoughts are independent of mine. And how can I corrupt anyone? I speak the truth, and only the truth. All of which can be replicated on the battlefield. I wish I could say the same about pilots, especially those who say that PRO AV can OHK their "good" tank My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1544	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:24:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting.... No, see that's how pretty much all Amarrians are, including their empress. Please don't compare me to the empress. I find it a vulgar insult to myself to be compared to something as corrupt as that. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1545	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:36:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: You don't understand it Atiim you are like the evil version of the empress, you thoughts and ideals are insidious and absolutely corrupting.... No, see that's how pretty much all Amarrians are, including their empress. Please don't compare me to the empress. I find it a vulgar insult to myself to be compared to something as corrupt as that. Message from Godin: Nobody should be compared to that ***....... ** happens...HTFU I find that funny coming from a tanker...... My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND

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