Everything has changed and will be changed at one point in time.

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Idc if its changed, thats not my question to ccp. My question was fairly simple. Respec or not when my suit is nerfed..... Thanks for the welcome, but Ive been here awhile, I know how bad it is, just not as accepting of it as some.

Nothing ever gets respecced when nerfed. Respecs will only occur when the item related to that skill is removed or there is a massive change in skill trees.

Nothing ever gets respecced when nerfed. Respecs will only occur when the item related to that skill is removed or there is a massive change in skill trees.

Let me read EULA... dust514.com/eula/

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Oh stfu up these respecs.

So, if CCP makes a change, you want a respec.
If you made mistakes in skill-ing you trees, you want a respec.
If realized your current SP plan sucks, you want a respec.
If you get bored with your current fits, you want a respec....

S... T.... F.... U!


The thing about SP is, you can always get more. One thing gets nerfed, or modified and you want 1 couple million SP back because it's just so haaaaaaaaaard to adapt and incoprorate skill into your game now.

Asking for respecs is simply code for people who want an easy do-over. It's selfish and not needed.
You realize the respec for Uprising is what started the GAME KILLING Protostomping, correct?

Sure, I'd love to have Proto Minmatar Assault Suits instead of Amarr and Caldari. I'd love Prototype Gallente Scouts instead of Minmatar. Yes, I've made some poor choices with my SP along the way, in hindsight and at the time, but I'm not going to ask for a respec. I CHOSE where my SP went, and I KNEW it could change, and I also knew that I had to plan for such things. CCP changing ONE piece of gear in this game does not warrant a respec. Get over it, and get over yourself.

Everything has changed and will be changed at one point in time.

Welcome to New Eden.

Oh stfu up these respecs.

So, if CCP makes a change, you want a respec.
If you made mistakes in skill-ing you trees, you want a respec.
If realized your current SP plan sucks, you want a respec.
If you get bored with your current fits, you want a respec....

S... T.... F.... U!


The thing about SP is, you can always get more. One thing gets nerfed, or modified and you want 1 couple million SP back because it's just so haaaaaaaaaard to adapt and incoprorate skill into your game now.

Asking for respecs is simply code for people who want an easy do-over. It's selfish and not needed.
You realize the respec for Uprising is what started the GAME KILLING Protostomping, correct?

Sure, I'd love to have Proto Minmatar Assault Suits instead of Amarr and Caldari. I'd love Prototype Gallente Scouts instead of Minmatar. Yes, I've made some poor choices with my SP along the way, in hindsight and at the time, but I'm not going to ask for a respec. I CHOSE where my SP went, and I KNEW it could change, and I also knew that I had to plan for such things. CCP changing ONE piece of gear in this game does not warrant a respec. Get over it, and get over yourself.

I'm a logi and I disagree with the OP. I see no need for a respec as long as logistics remains a viable play style.

I would, however, like to be able to contribute to a discussion on exactly what changes will be implemented.

No douche troll I want a respec not because I messed up but because ccp has came in and said THEY messed up. I did nothing wrong, I picked a suit I liked and ccp said oh you like that shiny thing there here go ahead, just grind, and buy boosters and packs and you can have it, then after I bought it they said oh wait as good as that thing is other people are jealous so we are going to make it less shiny so all the other kids will feel better about their small *****, but if you grind another 2 million sp and buy more boosters and pay us more we will let you buy something else shiny. Whats sad is your dumb ass thinks its about the suit or the sp and you dont even get that its them manipulating these forums and people like you to create nerf its just so people will spend more money to get into another suit faster. I like to feel like ive built something with my character that is real solid and concrete and everytime I feel like I have done that they jerk the rug out to simply do one thing, manipulate the consumer into making purchases.

So what did they do to your suit that was so drastic that you simply cannot use it anymore? Last I checked, Caldari Logi is still one the best suits in the game for any role. Scouts can still be effective after their nerf. HAVs were workable after their nerf. TacAR is still one of the best guns in the game after its nerf too...
Nobody is forcing you to give up whatever they modify.

You're putting to much drama into this. So, what if after you got your respec, they change your old favorite suit back to the way it was, would you want a respec then too?

Knock off the temper tantrum, learn to write in paragraph form, and quit b*tching about something that's not that big of a deal. Maybe you should learn to play FPS better so you don't have to rely so heavily on one type of setup. Just because you took the easy road and crutched yourself with the best gear doesn't warrant a respec either.

Good players aren't affected by nerfs or buffs.

So what did they do to your suit that was so drastic that you simply cannot use it anymore? Last I checked, Caldari Logi is still one the best suits in the game for any role. Scouts can still be effective after their nerf. HAVs were workable after their nerf. TacAR is still one of the best guns in the game after its nerf too...
Nobody is forcing you to give up whatever they modify.

You're putting to much drama into this. So, what if after you got your respec, they change your old favorite suit back to the way it was, would you want a respec then too?

Knock off the temper tantrum, learn to write in paragraph form, and quit b*tching about something that's not that big of a deal. Maybe you should learn to play FPS better so you don't have to rely so heavily on one type of setup. Just because you took the easy road and crutched yourself with the best gear doesn't warrant a respec either.

Good players aren't affected by nerfs or buffs.

Ok so Logibro has already said here on these forums that the logi suits are getting nerfed dont know how yet but he has said that they will be less combat effective. Now heres my question ccp since we as players speced the suit we liked and since you have had your ear poisoned with the lies of failures and intend to listen to these lies by nerfing something that you messed up will we get a full respec for our suit and all the, equipment and weapons that we speced, because this was deep planning, and painful grinding, that once we foumd the right combonation will now be erased and left useless by you. We want the option for respecs when you change large and fundamental attributes of our suits which our entire skill plan was developed around. And before I get the slayer logi blah, my logi carries proto rep hives, qx3s, and a45 scaner, all slots filled with a gek, 1000 hp and NO damage mods, so take that somewhere else. This is about the courtesy of giving us the option to make a diffrent decision based on your mistake, not ours.

I have a script that for the dust forums changes every occurrence of the word "respec" to "free cake".

I have a script that for the dust forums changes every occurrence of the word "respec" to "free cake".

Hmm, everyone cries htfu when I get my respec and I try to argue they should get one as well, but as soon as the proverbial **** hits the fan those affected cry respec.

Dude I have talked to both jenza of the cpm and jagerblitzen from the cpm in the last month and they both say they would and do support some form of paid respecs, trust me in a game where skills are your content you need to keep it fresh, im all for it.

Oh stfu up these respecs.

So, if CCP makes a change, you want a respec.
If you made mistakes in skill-ing you trees, you want a respec.
If realized your current SP plan sucks, you want a respec.
If you get bored with your current fits, you want a respec....

S... T.... F.... U!


The thing about SP is, you can always get more. One thing gets nerfed, or modified and you want a couple million SP back because it's just so haaaaaaaaaard to adapt and incorporate skill into your game now?

Asking for respecs is simply code for people who want an easy do-over. It's selfish and not needed.
You realize the respec for Uprising is what started the GAME KILLING Protostomping, correct?

Sure, I'd love to have Proto Minmatar Assault Suits instead of Amarr and Caldari. I'd love Prototype Gallente Scouts instead of Minmatar. Yes, I've made some poor choices with my SP along the way, in hindsight and at the time, but I'm not going to ask for a respec. I CHOSE where my SP went, and I KNEW it could change, and I also knew that I had to plan for such things. CCP changing ONE piece of gear in this game does not warrant a respec. Get over it, and get over yourself.

Hmm, everyone cries htfu when I get my respec and I try to argue they should get one as well, but as soon as the proverbial **** hits the fan those affected cry respec.

Ok so Logibro has already said here on these forums that the logi suits are getting nerfed dont know how yet but he has said that they will be less combat effective. Now heres my question ccp since we as players speced the suit we liked and since you have had your ear poisoned with the lies of failures and intend to listen to these lies by nerfing something that you messed up will we get a full respec for our suit and all the, equipment and weapons that we speced, because this was deep planning, and painful grinding, that once we foumd the right combonation will now be erased and left useless by you. We want the option for respecs when you change large and fundamental attributes of our suits which our entire skill plan was developed around. And before I get the slayer logi blah, my logi carries proto rep hives, qx3s, and a45 scaner, all slots filled with a gek, 1000 hp and NO damage mods, so take that somewhere else. This is about the courtesy of giving us the option to make a diffrent decision based on your mistake, not ours.

Call me crazy but I was nothing but a logi but I started speccing into Assault a week ago because I figured at some point there would be some sort of rebalance.

OP needs to read this sentence very carefully... and probably multiple times considering how poor his reading comprehension is.

Nerfs will happen. They will happen to your favorite weapon, module, grenade, and dropsuit. Accept that right now. Have you accepted it yet? Yes? Okay.

You are now a more flexible, adaptive mercenary. You are more deadly than before because you know how adjust your tactics and playstyle around the current state of the game. For you nerfs are a minor inconvenience at best.

With your newfound acceptance of nerfs you will scoff at the notion of a respec. Respecs are for the weak. Respecs are for those who cannot adapt to change. Right? Right.

My Heavy has been nerfed, nerfed again, nerfed again, slighlty buffed. I still haven't asked for a respec.

Asking for respecs is simply code for people who want an easy do-over. It's selfish and not needed.
You realize the respec for Uprising is what started the GAME KILLING Protostomping, correct?

You see no need for a respec bc you dont know how bad the suit is being nerfed.

And all you Caldari, Gallante and Minmatar that trained LR and SCR you also remember to say no when the weapon that fits your race comes out ok ?

I promise to stop playing and delete all accounts. I may be playing a game that I like now. But like skyrim or other games when I get something that's nice I don't expect it to turn to crap.

You nerf logi's or anything else because other more let's say... Sensitive players can't make their weapons work the way they were intended then I don't care about you or what you think.

Scrambler rifle.. Has a distance ring to it.

Assault rifle... Has a aggressive ring to it.

SMG... Has a close quarters ring to it.

Shotgun... everyone should be good at it.

Logi suit... Multi purposed sounding.

Assault suit... Sounds aggressive yet unsustainable.

scout suit... Information gathering and Ninja kills unnoticed.

Heavy suit... Sounds beefy.

The logi suit would have been any strategic players pick. Why would strategic players be better than assault players?

Can we nerf Stupid please?

COMMON SENSE FTW

The tone of your post makes you seem like an absolute D1ck

Your a protostomping scrub who is speced into FoTM because you have the SP to ALWAYS spec into FoTM ... the only reason you are against respecs is because you don;t want new and intermediate players doing the same thing and giving you competition ...

Nerfs shouldn't happen .. if CCP could actually make a balanced game then people would actually be able to make proper decisions on what they skill into think of it this way .....

No douche troll I want a respec not because I messed up but because ccp has came in and said THEY messed up. I did nothing wrong, I picked a suit I liked and ccp said oh you like that shiny thing there here go ahead, just grind, and buy boosters and packs and you can have it, then after I bought it they said oh wait as good as that thing is other people are jealous so we are going to make it less shiny so all the other kids will feel better about their small *****, but if you grind another 2 million sp and buy more boosters and pay us more we will let you buy something else shiny. Whats sad is your dumb ass thinks its about the suit or the sp and you dont even get that its them manipulating these forums and people like you to create nerf its just so people will spend more money to get into another suit faster. I like to feel like ive built something with my character that is real solid and concrete and everytime I feel like I have done that they jerk the rug out to simply do one thing, manipulate the consumer into making purchases.

You know you are getting old when you start to complain about all changes that may affect you and when you start saying that everything was much better when you are were young.

Oh stfu up these respecs.

So, if CCP makes a change, you want a respec.
If you made mistakes in skill-ing you trees, you want a respec.
If realized your current SP plan sucks, you want a respec.
If you get bored with your current fits, you want a respec....

S... T.... F.... U!


The thing about SP is, you can always get more. One thing gets nerfed, or modified and you want a couple million SP back because it's just so haaaaaaaaaard to adapt and incorporate skill into your game now?

Asking for respecs is simply code for people who want an easy do-over. It's selfish and not needed.
You realize the respec for Uprising is what started the GAME KILLING Protostomping, correct?

Sure, I'd love to have Proto Minmatar Assault Suits instead of Amarr and Caldari. I'd love Prototype Gallente Scouts instead of Minmatar. Yes, I've made some poor choices with my SP along the way, in hindsight and at the time, but I'm not going to ask for a respec. I CHOSE where my SP went, and I KNEW it could change, and I also knew that I had to plan for such things. CCP changing ONE piece of gear in this game does not warrant a respec. Get over it, and get over yourself.

Will people ever stop begging for a respec? This endless topic is so stupid it is annoying.

On this topic one of two things will happen, they nerf logi suits or they will buff something else. Which means something else will become the new FOTM replacing the logi dominance. Unless all suits are identical there will always be a suit used by most people. ALWAYS!

So when this new suit replaces logi dominance whiners will start to ***** about it and scream "its OP, nerf it. " Then the respec junkies will start screaming "give me my SP so I can make informed decision," which is total horseshit, and this the cycle of nerf/buff, scream scream its OP, whaaa I want a respec, will repeat over and over again. This will never end which is why respecs are a terrible idea and should NEVER be done.

About logi suits: Anyone, myself included, that has trained for logi in the past 3-6 months did so because we all knew how powerful they were. Read OP. we all made the decision to train logi knowing full well they outclassed assault suits in many ways and the numerous equipment slots, armor regen and ample fitting made the logi an obvious choice for a ground grunt. If any of you try to say you didn't know the logi was OP you are a liar. I crossed trained from assault because the logi is so much better. And I did it knowing one day the nerf bat would smash the logi class our the buff bat will raise another class up. If any other logi suit users didn't know this or didn't start to realize it as more and more players began to use logi suits than you are stupid. Also, you should stop playing this game because changes like this will happen forever.

Everything has changed and will be changed at one point in time.

Welcome to New Eden.