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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2013.11.26 11:24:00 -
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Ok so Logibro has already said here on these forums that the logi suits are getting nerfed dont know how yet but he has said that they will be less combat effective. Now heres my question ccp since we as players speced the suit we liked and since you have had your ear poisoned with the lies of failures and intend to listen to these lies by nerfing something that you messed up will we get a full respec for our suit and all the, equipment and weapons that we speced, because this was deep planning, and painful grinding, that once we foumd the right combonation will now be erased and left useless by you. We want the option for respecs when you change large and fundamental attributes of our suits which our entire skill plan was developed around. And before I get the slayer logi blah, my logi carries proto rep hives, qx3s, and a45 scaner, all slots filled with a gek, 1000 hp and NO damage mods, so take that somewhere else. This is about the courtesy of giving us the option to make a diffrent decision based on your mistake, not ours. |
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Posted - 2013.11.26 11:29:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Everything has changed and will be changed at one point in time.
Welcome to New Eden.
Idc if its changed, thats not my question to ccp. My question was fairly simple. Respec or not when my suit is nerfed..... Thanks for the welcome, but Ive been here awhile, I know how bad it is, just not as accepting of it as some. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2013.11.26 11:37:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Everything has changed and will be changed at one point in time.
Welcome to New Eden. Idc if its changed, thats not my question to ccp. My question was fairly simple. Respec or not when my suit is nerfed..... Thanks for the welcome, but Ive been here awhile, I know how bad it is, just not as accepting of it as some. Nothing ever gets respecced when nerfed. Respecs will only occur when the item related to that skill is removed or there is a massive change in skill trees.
Yes well they are talking about changing our suit bonus, which is the basis on which I may make a determination about a particular suit, thats a pretty big deal and imo warrants a respec. |
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Posted - 2013.11.26 11:43:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Everything has changed and will be changed at one point in time.
Welcome to New Eden.
Additionally this nerf will come on the heels of a previous nerf that came to my cal logi suit just some months ago, these 2 nerfs combined will set a precdent for the amount of change put on one suit in less than 6 months. At the time this previous nerf was meant to correct the problem with logis as it was seen as only a cal issue, yet the qq continued, and here we are back at the nerf it table, as we continually are in this game in the ever continuing cycle of nerfs and buffs that seem to ebb and flow with the ringing of the loudest group off qqers. |
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Posted - 2013.11.26 11:53:00 -
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8213 wrote:Oh stfu up these respecs.
So, if CCP makes a change, you want a respec.
If you made mistakes in skill-ing you trees, you want a respec.
If realized your current SP plan sucks, you want a respec.
If you get bored with your current fits, you want a respec....
S... T.... F.... U!
The thing about SP is, you can always get more. One thing gets nerfed, or modified and you want 1 couple million SP back because it's just so haaaaaaaaaard to adapt and incoprorate skill into your game now.
Asking for respecs is simply code for people who want an easy do-over. It's selfish and not needed.
You realize the respec for Uprising is what started the GAME KILLING Protostomping, correct?
Sure, I'd love to have Proto Minmatar Assault Suits instead of Amarr and Caldari. I'd love Prototype Gallente Scouts instead of Minmatar. Yes, I've made some poor choices with my SP along the way, in hindsight and at the time, but I'm not going to ask for a respec. I CHOSE where my SP went, and I KNEW it could change, and I also knew that I had to plan for such things. CCP changing ONE piece of gear in this game does not warrant a respec. Get over it, and get over yourself.
No douche troll I want a respec not because I messed up but because ccp has came in and said THEY messed up. I did nothing wrong, I picked a suit I liked and ccp said oh you like that shiny thing there here go ahead, just grind, and buy boosters and packs and you can have it, then after I bought it they said oh wait as good as that thing is other people are jealous so we are going to make it less shiny so all the other kids will feel better about their small *****, but if you grind another 2 million sp and buy more boosters and pay us more we will let you buy something else shiny. Whats sad is your dumb ass thinks its about the suit or the sp and you dont even get that its them manipulating these forums and people like you to create nerf its just so people will spend more money to get into another suit faster. I like to feel like ive built something with my character that is real solid and concrete and everytime I feel like I have done that they jerk the rug out to simply do one thing, manipulate the consumer into making purchases. |
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Posted - 2013.11.26 11:56:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:I'm a logi and I disagree with the OP. I see no need for a respec as long as logistics remains a viable play style.
I would, however, like to be able to contribute to a discussion on exactly what changes will be implemented.
You see no need for a respec bc you dont know how bad the suit is being nerfed. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:17:00 -
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8213 wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:8213 wrote:Oh stfu up these respecs.
So, if CCP makes a change, you want a respec.
If you made mistakes in skill-ing you trees, you want a respec.
If realized your current SP plan sucks, you want a respec.
If you get bored with your current fits, you want a respec....
S... T.... F.... U!
The thing about SP is, you can always get more. One thing gets nerfed, or modified and you want 1 couple million SP back because it's just so haaaaaaaaaard to adapt and incoprorate skill into your game now.
Asking for respecs is simply code for people who want an easy do-over. It's selfish and not needed.
You realize the respec for Uprising is what started the GAME KILLING Protostomping, correct?
Sure, I'd love to have Proto Minmatar Assault Suits instead of Amarr and Caldari. I'd love Prototype Gallente Scouts instead of Minmatar. Yes, I've made some poor choices with my SP along the way, in hindsight and at the time, but I'm not going to ask for a respec. I CHOSE where my SP went, and I KNEW it could change, and I also knew that I had to plan for such things. CCP changing ONE piece of gear in this game does not warrant a respec. Get over it, and get over yourself. No douche troll I want a respec not because I messed up but because ccp has came in and said THEY messed up. I did nothing wrong, I picked a suit I liked and ccp said oh you like that shiny thing there here go ahead, just grind, and buy boosters and packs and you can have it, then after I bought it they said oh wait as good as that thing is other people are jealous so we are going to make it less shiny so all the other kids will feel better about their small *****, but if you grind another 2 million sp and buy more boosters and pay us more we will let you buy something else shiny. Whats sad is your dumb ass thinks its about the suit or the sp and you dont even get that its them manipulating these forums and people like you to create nerf its just so people will spend more money to get into another suit faster. I like to feel like ive built something with my character that is real solid and concrete and everytime I feel like I have done that they jerk the rug out to simply do one thing, manipulate the consumer into making purchases. So what did they do to your suit that was so drastic that you simply cannot use it anymore? Last I checked, Caldari Logi is still one the best suits in the game for any role. Scouts can still be effective after their nerf. HAVs were workable after their nerf. TacAR is still one of the best guns in the game after its nerf too... Nobody is forcing you to give up whatever they modify. You're putting to much drama into this. So, what if after you got your respec, they change your old favorite suit back to the way it was, would you want a respec then too? Knock off the temper tantrum, learn to write in paragraph form, and quit b*tching about something that's not that big of a deal. Maybe you should learn to play FPS better so you don't have to rely so heavily on one type of setup. Just because you took the easy road and crutched yourself with the best gear doesn't warrant a respec either. Good players aren't affected by nerfs or buffs.
My ability at fps is neither here nor there, as for being only able to use ome suit type dude there are plenty of people to tell you how diverse I am, I run with everything from scrambler pistols in a scout to hmg in my dren, to gek exo in my commando, and yes I use both ar and scr in my cal logi, its not about what it will do or mean for me as an individual, its simply about ccp respecting us as customers. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:30:00 -
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8213 wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:8213 wrote:Oh stfu up these respecs.
So, if CCP makes a change, you want a respec.
If you made mistakes in skill-ing you trees, you want a respec.
If realized your current SP plan sucks, you want a respec.
If you get bored with your current fits, you want a respec....
S... T.... F.... U!
The thing about SP is, you can always get more. One thing gets nerfed, or modified and you want 1 couple million SP back because it's just so haaaaaaaaaard to adapt and incoprorate skill into your game now.
Asking for respecs is simply code for people who want an easy do-over. It's selfish and not needed.
You realize the respec for Uprising is what started the GAME KILLING Protostomping, correct?
Sure, I'd love to have Proto Minmatar Assault Suits instead of Amarr and Caldari. I'd love Prototype Gallente Scouts instead of Minmatar. Yes, I've made some poor choices with my SP along the way, in hindsight and at the time, but I'm not going to ask for a respec. I CHOSE where my SP went, and I KNEW it could change, and I also knew that I had to plan for such things. CCP changing ONE piece of gear in this game does not warrant a respec. Get over it, and get over yourself. No douche troll I want a respec not because I messed up but because ccp has came in and said THEY messed up. I did nothing wrong, I picked a suit I liked and ccp said oh you like that shiny thing there here go ahead, just grind, and buy boosters and packs and you can have it, then after I bought it they said oh wait as good as that thing is other people are jealous so we are going to make it less shiny so all the other kids will feel better about their small *****, but if you grind another 2 million sp and buy more boosters and pay us more we will let you buy something else shiny. Whats sad is your dumb ass thinks its about the suit or the sp and you dont even get that its them manipulating these forums and people like you to create nerf its just so people will spend more money to get into another suit faster. I like to feel like ive built something with my character that is real solid and concrete and everytime I feel like I have done that they jerk the rug out to simply do one thing, manipulate the consumer into making purchases. So what did they do to your suit that was so drastic that you simply cannot use it anymore? Last I checked, Caldari Logi is still one the best suits in the game for any role. Scouts can still be effective after their nerf. HAVs were workable after their nerf. TacAR is still one of the best guns in the game after its nerf too... Nobody is forcing you to give up whatever they modify. You're putting to much drama into this. So, what if after you got your respec, they change your old favorite suit back to the way it was, would you want a respec then too? Knock off the temper tantrum, learn to write in paragraph form, and quit b*tching about something that's not that big of a deal. Maybe you should learn to play FPS better so you don't have to rely so heavily on one type of setup. Just because you took the easy road and crutched yourself with the best gear doesn't warrant a respec either. Good players aren't affected by nerfs or buffs. As to your question what did they do to my suit, they nerfed 40 cpu off the proto level, which forces us to use a cpu up grade on the low side, at the same time they changed my racial bonus to something ive never even used away from my shield extenders. At the time I thought this really sucks, I mean it was only that suit, and it has 5 high slots and needs more cpu to stack shields than any other suit, plus all the other logi suits have the same cpu, except us.  But I dealt with it, I asked for a respec and was denied, not a full one either damnit, just on my suit which had been changed so much. The bigger argument id love to try and make is how this disenfranchised so many paying customers.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:53:00 -
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Freshticles wrote:Hmm, everyone cries htfu when I get my respec and I try to argue they should get one as well, but as soon as the proverbial **** hits the fan those affected cry respec.
Dude I have talked to both jenza of the cpm and jagerblitzen from the cpm in the last month and they both say they would and do support some form of paid respecs, trust me in a game where skills are your content you need to keep it fresh, im all for it. |
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