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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:49:00 -
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If your a new merc pay close attention. Ccp relys on new mercs and their money to support this game. As of now anything you purchase from ccp can be taken and or changed including boosters, bpo, aur consumables etc etc, over the past 6 months they have repeatedly done this and worse as they now have started refusing reimbursement for these aur items purchased no matter the amount. My advice to all new players do not purchase anything from this game until this company agrees to change this policy for reimbursement when aur items are then either taken or changed.... |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
591
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:50:00 -
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Signed! |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1139
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:52:00 -
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Expect the part where they reimburse the aur from the items they are taking away...
But this is the dust forums where you can spew out bullshit and everyone will believe it.
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO'S are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
803
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:53:00 -
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solid advice to newer players since they would have to err in their ignorance to learn this lesson signed |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:54:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1139
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:56:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets.
Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed any you will not get your money back?
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO'S are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5250
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:56:00 -
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I'll make sure to encourage everyone I recruit to purchase from CCP.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
494
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:57:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets.
There's a BIG difference between 'changed' and 'removed'.
Should probably make that clear.
SAVE DUST 514; REMOVE SCRAMBLER PISTOLS AND MISSILE TANKS
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Thanatus Sleep
16
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:58:00 -
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VVVVV
Burn CCP Burn
Im a sad merc
Aq-Rg
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:58:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back? Yes that is the point of this post, to make them change that eula, im aware what they are doing is legal, so was slavery, doesnt mean its right, or that we as a community can not affect change. |
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Kincate
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:59:00 -
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Buy boosters... they probrably wont take away your SP... probrably |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:00:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. There's a BIG difference between 'changed' and 'removed'. Should probably make that clear. I agree, I want reimbursement when an aur item is REMOVED or CHANGED, because its not what we paid for. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
3862
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:01:00 -
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Alternatively just read the EULA and see that they reserve the right to change, modify or outright remove any aspect of the game if it benefits a larger purpose (like every other game).
BPO's are nasty for the economy. You shouldn't be surprised that they're being removed when there were players saying that they should have never existed even in Beta.
ANON Diplomat -//- I Support SP Rollover ^_^
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Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
1684
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:01:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:If your a new merc pay close attention. Ccp relys on new mercs and their money to support this game. As of now anything you purchase from ccp can be taken and or changed including boosters, bpo, aur consumables etc etc, over the past 6 months they have repeatedly done this and worse as they now have started refusing reimbursement for these aur items purchased no matter the amount. My advice to all new players do not purchase anything from this game until this company agrees to change this policy for reimbursement when aur items are then either taken or changed....
They have never taken away a booster or anything like that. Scuba just upset they can't afford to run isk militia equipment? LOL.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
1684
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:02:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. There's a BIG difference between 'changed' and 'removed'. Should probably make that clear. I agree, I want reimbursement when an aur item is REMOVED or CHANGED, because its not what we paid for.
You get the aur back. Stop crying.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1142
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:02:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back? Yes that is the point of this post, to make them change that eula, im aware what they are doing is legal, so was slavery, doesnt mean its right, or that we as a community can not affect change.
If you want a game that stays the same since release i would suggest CoD, but i like a ever changing game/universe that keeps improving not everyone is going to be happy with all the changes but at least new content is being add and old content is being fixed and updated. this upcoming patch they are changing tanks and adding new weapons. I'll pick change over staleness anyday, if you don't like change i would suggest not playing Dust or EVE.
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO'S are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:02:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I'll make sure to encourage everyone I recruit to purchase from CCP. Yes we know the ccp do boys will do as always, to stop the product being sold to be less appealing to the consumer, because that is how you keep the game alive. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:04:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back? Yes that is the point of this post, to make them change that eula, im aware what they are doing is legal, so was slavery, doesnt mean its right, or that we as a community can not affect change. If you want a game that stays the same since release i would suggest CoD, but i like a ever changing game/universe that keeps improving not everyone is going to be happy with all the changes but at least new content is being add and old content is being fixed and updated. this upcoming patch they are changing tanks and adding new weapons. I'll pick change over staleness anyday, if you don't like change i would suggest not playing Dust or EVE. Change is awesome, so is reimbursement for a customer that paid for something that was taken or changed, got nothing against change please read more carefully, im asking for both, change and reimbursement. |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:05:00 -
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don't buy squat from ccp.
they are cheats and crooks |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1780
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:05:00 -
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Anti-signed...
Level 1 Forum Warrior
I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:06:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. There's a BIG difference between 'changed' and 'removed'. Should probably make that clear. I agree, I want reimbursement when an aur item is REMOVED or CHANGED, because its not what we paid for. You get the aur back. Stop crying. No sir as you have no clue what you are talking about I was told in 2 seperate help tickets I would recieve no reimbursement for my items, please read more closely. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
246
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:07:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I'll make sure to encourage everyone I recruit to purchase from CCP. Yep, same as. Although, most people I play with don't have an issue with spending a couple of bob for a fun game, and they don't mind not getting it back after the fun is over. Off course, some cheapskates hanging around these forums think different, but everyone to their own eh |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:07:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur from the items they are taking away...
But this is the dust forums where you can spew out bullshit and everyone will believe it.
I only bought aur to get bpo's....
aur is useless to me.
they pulled the old bait and switch.
I swear you guys who defend them are all ccp alts.
you disgust me... |
Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
1686
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:09:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back? Yes that is the point of this post, to make them change that eula, im aware what they are doing is legal, so was slavery, doesnt mean its right, or that we as a community can not affect..
Because ccp taking away militia bpos is just as bad as buying and selling humans at auction like cattle.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:10:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'll make sure to encourage everyone I recruit to purchase from CCP. Yep, same as. Although, most people I play with don't have an issue with spending a couple of bob for a fun game, and they don't mind not getting it back after the fun is over. Off course, some cheapskates hanging around these forums think different, but everyone to their own eh Ya this cheap skate has spent 300 dollars on this game, including a elite pack, vet pack, and 2 merc packs, not to mention random aur, and boosters, ummm ya so that makes you incorrect? |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
3863
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:10:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back? Yes that is the point of this post, to make them change that eula, im aware what they are doing is legal, so was slavery, doesnt mean its right, or that we as a community can not affect.. Because ccp taking away militia bpos is just as bad as buying and selling humans at auction like cattle.
Minmatar can attest to this.
ANON Diplomat -//- I Support SP Rollover ^_^
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:11:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back? Yes that is the point of this post, to make them change that eula, im aware what they are doing is legal, so was slavery, doesnt mean its right, or that we as a community can not affect.. Because ccp taking away militia bpos is just as bad as buying and selling humans at auction like cattle. Dude Im not talking about militia bpos, please go to a post where you are needed or required, your ignorance here is useless to your fanboying. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:16:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur from the items they are taking away...
But this is the dust forums where you can spew out bullshit and everyone will believe it. I only bought aur to get bpo's.... aur is useless to me. they pulled the old bait and switch. I swear you guys who defend them are all ccp alts. you disgust me... It is strange why anyone would support bad customer policy, this only makes the game better for you if this change were to happen, I never understand the thought of those who dont support reimbursement, and they never explain, its funny how walmart can figure this out but a sophisticated multinational software design company cant. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
246
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:20:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'll make sure to encourage everyone I recruit to purchase from CCP. Yep, same as. Although, most people I play with don't have an issue with spending a couple of bob for a fun game, and they don't mind not getting it back after the fun is over. Off course, some cheapskates hanging around these forums think different, but everyone to their own eh Ya this cheap skate has spent 300 dollars on this game, including a elite pack, vet pack, and 2 merc packs, not to mention random aur, and boosters, ummm ya so that makes you incorrect? What, the remark hit a bit close did it I was being a bit general about some players on the forums who cry and moan over little things that we were full warned about, but if you want to take it as directed at yourself, maybe there's a reason. Lets see, you've spent over $300 on the game but are in argument over $20 of products you still have that have been altered as you had been warned could potentially happen. Yep, honestly, I really can't see why you might think I called you a cheapskate. No idea at all |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:27:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'll make sure to encourage everyone I recruit to purchase from CCP. Yep, same as. Although, most people I play with don't have an issue with spending a couple of bob for a fun game, and they don't mind not getting it back after the fun is over. Off course, some cheapskates hanging around these forums think different, but everyone to their own eh Ya this cheap skate has spent 300 dollars on this game, including a elite pack, vet pack, and 2 merc packs, not to mention random aur, and boosters, ummm ya so that makes you incorrect? What, the remark hit a bit close did it I was being a bit general about some players on the forums who cry and moan over little things that we were full warned about, but if you want to take it as directed at yourself, maybe there's a reason. Lets see, you've spent over $300 on the game but are in argument over $20 of products you still have that have been altered as you had been warned could potentially happen. Yep, honestly, I really can't see why you might think I called you a cheapskate. No idea at all Look fail troll my point here is simple, I want ccp to make a policy change, Im aware of the warnings, I know the policy, its not just about the 20 dollars in consumables, its about customers spending money with the confidence of the company support that allows for more customers, more spending, and therefore a better game. Very simple for even a cheapskate like my self can understand it. |
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1145
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:29:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur from the items they are taking away...
But this is the dust forums where you can spew out bullshit and everyone will believe it. I only bought aur to get bpo's.... aur is useless to me. they pulled the old bait and switch. I swear you guys who defend them are all ccp alts. you disgust me... It is strange why anyone would support bad customer policy, this only makes the game better for you if this change were to happen, I never understand the thought of those who dont support reimbursement, and they never explain, its funny how walmart can figure this out but a sophisticated multinational software design company cant.
Well if comparing it to wal-mart you can't buy a laptop keep it around for 6 months see a cheaper and different model comes around then go back to wal-mart and say "I did not use this, so i want my money back"
CCP gives you warning before major updates or changes occur, if you had fused locus grenades sitting around for 3 months and then you see the update and say "hey I did not use these grenades although i had them for 3 months and it is your fault CCP so give me my money back."
If you are going to buy something and not use it for a few month it will change it is not fault of CCP's you are not using them during the time you deemed they were good.
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO'S are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
1687
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:36:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Dude Im not talking about militia bpos, please go to a post where you are needed or required, your ignorance here is useless to your fanboying.
Lol my fanboying? Tell me again how many times ccp has banned me from these very forums for abusing the devs. I have consistently called ccp out for a while now.
You need a reality and or diaper check. Ccp it's only taking away militia bpos for items that are no longer in the game and you will get you r aur back. Buy a booster.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
154
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:39:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur from the items they are taking away...
But this is the dust forums where you can spew out bullshit and everyone will believe it. I only bought aur to get bpo's.... aur is useless to me. they pulled the old bait and switch. I swear you guys who defend them are all ccp alts. you disgust me... It is strange why anyone would support bad customer policy, this only makes the game better for you if this change were to happen, I never understand the thought of those who dont support reimbursement, and they never explain, its funny how walmart can figure this out but a sophisticated multinational software design company cant. Well if comparing it to wal-mart you can't buy a laptop keep it around for 6 months see a cheaper and different model comes around then go back to wal-mart and say "I did not use this, so i want my money back" CCP gives you warning before major updates or changes occur, if you had fused locus grenades sitting around for 3 months and then you see the update and say "hey I did not use these grenades although i had them for 3 months and it is your fault CCP so give me my money back." If you are going to buy something and not use it for a few month it will change it is not fault of CCP's you are not using them during the time you deemed they were good. Perhaps you are simple, or maybe english is your second language, perhaps you can not see the truth through your own personal terribleness at fps, I dont know why you are unable to understand. Let me try again, we want to change the policy to give reimbursement for aur items that are removed or changed, doesnt matter what or why or when. If you support the policy great, you have no reason to be here cheerleading. Some of us want things to change no diffrent than people wanting other things changed in this game, if you have an intelligent reasoning as to why this policy could not or should not change elaborate and enlighten us please.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
154
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:43:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Dude Im not talking about militia bpos, please go to a post where you are needed or required, your ignorance here is useless to your fanboying.
Lol my fanboying? Tell me again how many times ccp has banned me from these very forums for abusing the devs. I have consistently called ccp out for a while now. You need a reality and or diaper check. Ccp it's only taking away militia bpos for items that are no longer in the game and you will get you r aur back. Buy a booster. Jesus dude your slow, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MILITIA BPOS, can you really not see that, im talking about items I have, that were changed after my purchase with no reimbursement offered, please tell me you see it this time? What in the hell are you reading and why do you keep talking about militia bpos when Im talking about a policy change? |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1146
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:52:00 -
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Alright then...
How about the concept of an every changing universe and commitment.
CCP has had this stance for a very long time if you are going to skill into something you are committing to you with all the benefits and consequences. Including the purchases you make, lets take Flaylocks for example they were extremely good so powerful they were killing everything because of the high damage and massive blast radius. So people skilled into these things, CCP came out and said they were going to patch it so it will bring it back down to par with the other sidearms. I do not support reimbursement because if you skilled into it and purchased it as a weapon you should be committed to it. I do not like the idea of people using FOTM weapons getting reimbursed then going off to buy the next FOTM. If you are skilling and purchasing something you should know you are committing to it through the good and bad times.
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO'S are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:52:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'll make sure to encourage everyone I recruit to purchase from CCP. Yep, same as. Although, most people I play with don't have an issue with spending a couple of bob for a fun game, and they don't mind not getting it back after the fun is over. Off course, some cheapskates hanging around these forums think different, but everyone to their own eh Ya this cheap skate has spent 300 dollars on this game, including a elite pack, vet pack, and 2 merc packs, not to mention random aur, and boosters, ummm ya so that makes you incorrect? What, the remark hit a bit close did it I was being a bit general about some players on the forums who cry and moan over little things that we were full warned about, but if you want to take it as directed at yourself, maybe there's a reason. Lets see, you've spent over $300 on the game but are in argument over $20 of products you still have that have been altered as you had been warned could potentially happen. Yep, honestly, I really can't see why you might think I called you a cheapskate. No idea at all Look fail troll my point here is simple, I want ccp to make a policy change, Im aware of the warnings, I know the policy, its not just about the 20 dollars in consumables, its about customers spending money with the confidence of the company support that allows for more customers, more spending, and therefore a better game. Very simple for even a cheapskate like my self can understand it. No, what you are attempting to do is promote discord in potential future purchases of Aurum due the fact that you can't handle that your attempt to stockpile OP items backfired on you when CCP changed them. I agree that some more work needs to be done informing people of how it works but to much mollycoddling removes this from being a New Eden game.
What they need to have is to make sure that any changes that will happen will have a minimum of 1 months notice given so players can use what they have without buying more. It's then up to each player whether they want to take the risk of stockpiling.
And another thing, are you that much of a gimp that you used Viktor's FPS skills as a basis for whether his argument was good or not. Any credibility you have is now gone. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
36
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:53:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Alternatively just read the EULA and see that they reserve the right to change, modify or outright remove any aspect of the game if it benefits a larger purpose (like every other game).
BPO's are nasty for the economy. You shouldn't be surprised that they're being removed when there were players saying that they should have never existed even in Beta.
Oh, they'll still exist. but they'll just be for manufacturing only, not this BS we have now. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
1688
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:53:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Dude Im not talking about militia bpos, please go to a post where you are needed or required, your ignorance here is useless to your fanboying.
Lol my fanboying? Tell me again how many times ccp has banned me from these very forums for abusing the devs. I have consistently called ccp out for a while now. You need a reality and or diaper check. Ccp it's only taking away militia bpos for items that are no longer in the game and you will get you r aur back. Buy a booster. Jesus dude your slow, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MILITIA BPOS, can you really not see that, im talking about items I have, that were changed after my purchase with no reimbursement offered, please tell me you see it this time? What in the hell are you reading and why do you keep talking about militia bpos when Im talking about a policy change?
You mean balancing? That happens. Get over it or I will tell your mother to hide her credit card.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:54:00 -
[39] - Quote
Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Dude Im not talking about militia bpos, please go to a post where you are needed or required, your ignorance here is useless to your fanboying.
Lol my fanboying? Tell me again how many times ccp has banned me from these very forums for abusing the devs. I have consistently called ccp out for a while now. You need a reality and or diaper check. Ccp it's only taking away militia bpos for items that are no longer in the game and you will get you r aur back. Buy a booster. Jesus dude your slow, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MILITIA BPOS, can you really not see that, im talking about items I have, that were changed after my purchase with no reimbursement offered, please tell me you see it this time? What in the hell are you reading and why do you keep talking about militia bpos when Im talking about a policy change? You mean balancing? That happens. Get over it or I will tell your mother to hide her credit card. Lol |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:57:00 -
[40] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Alright then...
How about the concept of an every changing universe and commitment.
CCP has had this stance for a very long time if you are going to skill into something you are committing to you with all the benefits and consequences. Including the purchases you make, lets take Flaylocks for example they were extremely good so powerful they were killing everything because of the high damage and massive blast radius. So people skilled into these things, CCP came out and said they were going to patch it so it will bring it back down to par with the other sidearms. I do not support reimbursement because if you skilled into it and purchased it as a weapon you should be committed to it. I do not like the idea of people using FOTM weapons getting reimbursed then going off to buy the next FOTM. If you are skilling and purchasing something you should know you are committing to it through the good and bad times. Ok again your talking about skilling into something, I am refering to aur items, and a refund for these items when they are taken or changed, you dont even need sp to purchase std aur items, my point still stands policy change on aur items, fotm argument does not apply. |
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:58:00 -
[41] - Quote
Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Dude Im not talking about militia bpos, please go to a post where you are needed or required, your ignorance here is useless to your fanboying.
Lol my fanboying? Tell me again how many times ccp has banned me from these very forums for abusing the devs. I have consistently called ccp out for a while now. You need a reality and or diaper check. Ccp it's only taking away militia bpos for items that are no longer in the game and you will get you r aur back. Buy a booster. Jesus dude your slow, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MILITIA BPOS, can you really not see that, im talking about items I have, that were changed after my purchase with no reimbursement offered, please tell me you see it this time? What in the hell are you reading and why do you keep talking about militia bpos when Im talking about a policy change? You mean balancing? That happens. Get over it or I will tell your mother to hide her credit card. Nope im fine with balancing, just want aur reimbursement when it happens, see still simple. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
1689
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:59:00 -
[42] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Alright then...
How about the concept of an every changing universe and commitment.
CCP has had this stance for a very long time if you are going to skill into something you are committing to you with all the benefits and consequences. Including the purchases you make, lets take Flaylocks for example they were extremely good so powerful they were killing everything because of the high damage and massive blast radius. So people skilled into these things, CCP came out and said they were going to patch it so it will bring it back down to par with the other sidearms. I do not support reimbursement because if you skilled into it and purchased it as a weapon you should be committed to it. I do not like the idea of people using FOTM weapons getting reimbursed then going off to buy the next FOTM. If you are skilling and purchasing something you should know you are committing to it through the good and bad times. Ok again your talking about skilling into something, I am refering to aur items, and a refund for these items when they are taken or changed, you dont even need sp to purchase std aur items, my point still stands policy change on aur items, fotm argument does not apply.
Please point on the doll where CCP touched you.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1146
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:00:00 -
[43] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Alright then...
How about the concept of an every changing universe and commitment.
CCP has had this stance for a very long time if you are going to skill into something you are committing to you with all the benefits and consequences. Including the purchases you make, lets take Flaylocks for example they were extremely good so powerful they were killing everything because of the high damage and massive blast radius. So people skilled into these things, CCP came out and said they were going to patch it so it will bring it back down to par with the other sidearms. I do not support reimbursement because if you skilled into it and purchased it as a weapon you should be committed to it. I do not like the idea of people using FOTM weapons getting reimbursed then going off to buy the next FOTM. If you are skilling and purchasing something you should know you are committing to it through the good and bad times. Ok again your talking about skilling into something, I am refering to aur items, and a refund for these items when they are taken or changed, you dont even need sp to purchase std aur items, my point still stands policy change on aur items, fotm argument does not apply. I am speaking also of AUR purchased items here you can stockpile AUR items of a FOTM and then it gets changed, just because the OP weapon is not longer OP does mean you should get your AUR back. So you can buy the next FOTM.
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO'S are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
1689
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:01:00 -
[44] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Dude Im not talking about militia bpos, please go to a post where you are needed or required, your ignorance here is useless to your fanboying.
Lol my fanboying? Tell me again how many times ccp has banned me from these very forums for abusing the devs. I have consistently called ccp out for a while now. You need a reality and or diaper check. Ccp it's only taking away militia bpos for items that are no longer in the game and you will get you r aur back. Buy a booster. Jesus dude your slow, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MILITIA BPOS, can you really not see that, im talking about items I have, that were changed after my purchase with no reimbursement offered, please tell me you see it this time? What in the hell are you reading and why do you keep talking about militia bpos when Im talking about a policy change? You mean balancing? That happens. Get over it or I will tell your mother to hide her credit card. Nope im fine with balancing, just want aur reimbursement when it happens, see still simple.
Ah I do see, you want AUR items to remain OP.
This is what you get for spending AUR on consumables and BPO's. AUR is really only good for the boosters.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:01:00 -
[45] - Quote
Lol. it's time for another beer since I just spat the last one on the monitor laughing. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:07:00 -
[46] - Quote
Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:[quote=Oxskull Duncarino][quote=INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC] Look fail troll my point here is simple, I want ccp to make a policy change, Im aware of the warnings, I know the policy, its not just about the 20 dollars in consumables, its about customers spending money with the confidence of the company support that allows for more customers, more spending, and therefore a better game. Very simple for even a cheapskate like my self can understand it. No, what you are attempting to do is promote discord in potential future purchases of Aurum due the fact that you can't handle that your attempt to stockpile OP items backfired on you when CCP changed them. I agree that some more work needs to be done informing people of how it works but to much mollycoddling removes this from being a New Eden game. What they need to have is to make sure that any changes that will happen will have a minimum of 1 months notice given so players can use what they have without buying more. It's then up to each player whether they want to take the risk of stockpiling. And another thing, are you that much of a gimp that you used Viktor's FPS skills as a basis for whether his argument was good or not. Any credibility you have is now gone. Again we want to change the policy, and yes I did terrible players having a say is a terrible idea, my opinion so take it how you want. My credibility comes from my gun not scrubs.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:12:00 -
[47] - Quote
Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:[quote=Paran Tadec]
Lol my fanboying? Tell me again how many times ccp has banned me from these very forums for abusing the devs. I have consistently called ccp out for a while now.
You need a reality and or diaper check. Ccp it's only taking away militia bpos for items that are no longer in the game and you will get you r aur back. Buy a booster. Ah I do see, you want AUR items to remain OP. This is what you get for spending AUR on consumables and BPO's. AUR is really only good for the boosters. They can nerf all they want, ive never supported a nerf, never cried on these forums for a nerf, no 1 item is op, only the skill of some mercs is up, that being said they can nerf away just reimburse me for it, again policy change, btw the current policy allows for them to change boosters with no reimbursement as well.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:12:00 -
[48] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:[quote=Oxskull Duncarino][quote=INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC] Look fail troll my point here is simple, I want ccp to make a policy change, Im aware of the warnings, I know the policy, its not just about the 20 dollars in consumables, its about customers spending money with the confidence of the company support that allows for more customers, more spending, and therefore a better game. Very simple for even a cheapskate like my self can understand it. No, what you are attempting to do is promote discord in potential future purchases of Aurum due the fact that you can't handle that your attempt to stockpile OP items backfired on you when CCP changed them. I agree that some more work needs to be done informing people of how it works but to much mollycoddling removes this from being a New Eden game. What they need to have is to make sure that any changes that will happen will have a minimum of 1 months notice given so players can use what they have without buying more. It's then up to each player whether they want to take the risk of stockpiling. And another thing, are you that much of a gimp that you used Viktor's FPS skills as a basis for whether his argument was good or not. Any credibility you have is now gone. Again we want to change the policy, and yes I did terrible players having a say is a terrible idea, my opinion so take it how you want. My credibility comes from my gun not scrubs. I do believe even you brain cells have gone the way of the rats. What does a player's FPS skills have to do with a debate on these policy changes? Go on, honestly, I'm really stumped as what kind of argument you can give for that. By your reasoning Stephen Hawking could be one of the worst people to attempt to resolve this. Yep, you've just proved what I though at the start. You're a crybaby, heel drumming idiot. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1146
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:16:00 -
[49] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:[quote=Oxskull Duncarino][quote=INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC] Look fail troll my point here is simple, I want ccp to make a policy change, Im aware of the warnings, I know the policy, its not just about the 20 dollars in consumables, its about customers spending money with the confidence of the company support that allows for more customers, more spending, and therefore a better game. Very simple for even a cheapskate like my self can understand it. No, what you are attempting to do is promote discord in potential future purchases of Aurum due the fact that you can't handle that your attempt to stockpile OP items backfired on you when CCP changed them. I agree that some more work needs to be done informing people of how it works but to much mollycoddling removes this from being a New Eden game. What they need to have is to make sure that any changes that will happen will have a minimum of 1 months notice given so players can use what they have without buying more. It's then up to each player whether they want to take the risk of stockpiling. And another thing, are you that much of a gimp that you used Viktor's FPS skills as a basis for whether his argument was good or not. Any credibility you have is now gone. Again we want to change the policy, and yes I did terrible players having a say is a terrible idea, my opinion so take it how you want. My credibility comes from my gun not scrubs.
Are you challenge me to a dual?
Scram Pistol at 10 paces?
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO'S are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:17:00 -
[50] - Quote
For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:20:00 -
[51] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills? |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:21:00 -
[52] - Quote
.[/quote] No, what you are attempting to do is promote discord in potential future purchases of Aurum due the fact that you can't handle that your attempt to stockpile OP items backfired on you when CCP changed them. I agree that some more work needs to be done informing people of how it works but to much mollycoddling removes this from being a New Eden game.
What they need to have is to make sure that any changes that will happen will have a minimum of 1 months notice given so players can use what they have without buying more. It's then up to each player whether they want to take the risk of stockpiling.
And another thing, are you that much of a gimp that you used Viktor's FPS skills as a basis for whether his argument was good or not. Any credibility you have is now gone.[/quote] Again we want to change the policy, and yes I did terrible players having a say is a terrible idea, my opinion so take it how you want. My credibility comes from my gun not scrubs. [/quote]
Are you challenging me to a dual?
Scram Pistol at 10 paces?[/quote] I am challenging you to support a policy change that is needed, as for duals, ill reserve a wolfman for you. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
114
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:22:00 -
[53] - Quote
Thanatus Sleep wrote:VVVVV
Burn CCP Burn
You know your lazar works better from far to mid range you are from the target .
EDIT : Use a prototype and have some prototype hive's near by .
DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!!!
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:22:00 -
[54] - Quote
Paran Tadec wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back? Yes that is the point of this post, to make them change that eula, im aware what they are doing is legal, so was slavery, doesnt mean its right, or that we as a community can not affect.. Because ccp taking away militia bpos is just as bad as buying and selling humans at auction like cattle.
holy smokes! does it have to get that bad before the fanboi in you dies?
what low standards you have.... |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:23:00 -
[55] - Quote
Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills? Thats my answer, im terrible at flying jets, so my opinion on how jets should be flown is useless? You seeing it now? |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1148
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:27:00 -
[56] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills? Thats my answer, im terrible at flying jets, so my opinion on how jets should be flown is useless? You seeing it now?
Right and because you "think" you have good gun game that makes you an expert in reimbursement policies...
I see nothing wrong with that.
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO'S are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills? Thats my answer, im terrible at flying jets, so my opinion on how jets should be flown is useless? You seeing it now? You really are as thick as you come across. Do ya think the majority of people on the board of management for an airline have been or are pilots? How many space rocket designers are astronauts? You seeing it now? Really, you're really beyond being a fool! |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:28:00 -
[58] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills? Thats my answer, im terrible at flying jets, so my opinion on how jets should be flown is useless? You seeing it now? Right and because you "think" you have good gun game that makes you an expert in reimbursement policies... I see nothing wrong with that. Now you are catching on. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:30:00 -
[59] - Quote
Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills? Thats my answer, im terrible at flying jets, so my opinion on how jets should be flown is useless? You seeing it now? You really are as thick as you come across. Do ya think the majority of people on the board of management for an airline have been or are pilots? How many space rocket designers are astronauts? You seeing it now? Really, you're beyond being a fool! Thats true those people are very dependent on the people doing the flying. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:34:00 -
[60] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills? Thats my answer, im terrible at flying jets, so my opinion on how jets should be flown is useless? You seeing it now? You really are as thick as you come across. Do ya think the majority of people on the board of management for an airline have been or are pilots? How many space rocket designers are astronauts? You seeing it now? Really, you're beyond being a fool! Thats true those people are very dependent on the people doing the flying. Lol, I reckon you accidentally bricked you brain when you bricked your suit. Enjoy that little world you exist in. |
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
344
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:39:00 -
[61] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back?
There is still a contract that is entered by both parties upon sale. No matter what the EULA tries to free themselfs of, business is exactly that. They have played oftly close to the line a couple times... Sver Logi suit's being another massive example.
The whole reason Everyone paying for Beta Aurum got a full Aurum refund was Law suit's aswell.... one of the major reason's DUST no longer was a beta from 5-14... |
SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
309
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:41:00 -
[62] - Quote
signed.
level 0 forum warrior
self-proclaimed slayer
weapon of choice:
GEK-38 gallante assault rifle
-STB infantry
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
163
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:43:00 -
[63] - Quote
Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills? Im going in game now, do me a favor keep trolling this post so it stays at the top where it can be seen and thank you for your assitance. Ill exacerbate your tollish tendencies upon my return I promise. XD |
DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
129
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:43:00 -
[64] - Quote
Kincate wrote:Buy boosters... they probrably wont take away your SP... probrably
no, theyll just change the vehicle skills, refund your sp and then increase the sp cost of the skills you had before to effectively nerf you |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
14
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:45:00 -
[65] - Quote
someone should post this thread in rookie |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:46:00 -
[66] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:For me people who are totally bad at a thing should have the least opinion about how such a thing should work. Thats just my opinion, lol you can like it or not.
Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills? Thats my answer, im terrible at flying jets, so my opinion on how jets should be flown is useless? You seeing it now? Lol, I reckon you accidentally bricked you brain when you bricked your suit. Enjoy that little world you exist in. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Im going in game now, do me a favor keep trolling this post so it stays at the top where it can be seen and thank you for your assitance. Ill exacerbate your tollish tendencies upon my return I promise. XD
As I aid on another post of the same caliber as yours when they thanked me for the same, my pleasure. It's fun to get other people to join in and laugh pointing the finger. Have a good game |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1352
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Posted - 2013.11.23 01:04:00 -
[67] - Quote
If they alter the product you bought, you should have a choice to have the item remain in your inventory with the changes, or take the Aurum refund. This Meta game "I'm a better ******* pirate and swindler than you!" crap is supposed to be between the players. Not the playerbase and game producers, namely Marketing and their sometimes unreasonable policies.
It's a simple policy change that would not create a loss for anyone.
Cheeseburgers.
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Himiko Kuronaga
The Generals EoN.
2346
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Posted - 2013.11.23 01:09:00 -
[68] - Quote
Suffer, miserable children.
Suffer! |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
741
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Posted - 2013.11.23 01:33:00 -
[69] - Quote
CCP also relies on new players to spend money on a game that they think will give them some sort of even footing to have fun.
This is wrong. You will be thrown right into matches with tryhard leet protostomping squads that ruin any casual fun factor the game could have had. Save your money. Buy BF4.
If you don't think sniping is the greatest thing everGǪ I will fight you. That's no lie.
-GÇö Ron Burgundy paraphrased
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Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
562
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Posted - 2013.11.23 01:37:00 -
[70] - Quote
First they came for the vehicles, and I did not speak out-- Because I did not use vehicles.
Then they came for the Scouts, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Scout.
Then they came for the Logis, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Logi.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me. |
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DUST 514 Player 12345678914
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
562
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Posted - 2013.11.23 01:37:00 -
[71] - Quote
First they came for the vehicles, and I did not speak out-- Because I did not use vehicles.
Then they came for the Scouts, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Scout.
Then they came for the Logis, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Logi.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me. |
Athrak Kinz
Valkyrian Armada
4
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Posted - 2013.11.23 01:43:00 -
[72] - Quote
Good thing I'm smart enough not to put money into a FREE TO PLAY game. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10521
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Posted - 2013.11.23 02:09:00 -
[73] - Quote
Much better than anything SOE has done.
We got awesome weapon spend 5 bucks for it!
Whoops weapon too popular, nerfing it so other guns have a chance.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
166
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Posted - 2013.11.23 02:28:00 -
[74] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Much better than anything SOE has done.
We got awesome weapon spend 5 bucks for it!
Whoops weapon too popular, nerfing it so other guns have a chance. And again im fine with the nerf, but if you nerf it then refund my aur versions, period, not really that complex, that helps the consumer feel confident that the hypothetical nerf isnt to simply control our spending. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
166
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Posted - 2013.11.23 02:32:00 -
[75] - Quote
DUST 514 Player 12345678914 wrote:First they came for the vehicles, and I did not speak out-- Because I did not use vehicles.
Then they came for the Scouts, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Scout.
Then they came for the Logis, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Logi.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me. Agreed, and this apathy comes from what? From who? A small portion of the player base that troll the forums, we need greater support and input from people who not only troll but actually like the game atm, the forums need some newer fresher breaths of air. Not forum warrior level insert number for nerd, because they suck at shooting but not typing. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2258
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Posted - 2013.11.23 02:36:00 -
[76] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur from the items they are taking away...
But this is the dust forums where you can spew out bullshit and everyone will believe it.
"Welcome to Amazeballz Epic Theme Park, home to the world famous Amazeballz Epic Rollercoaster. Thank you for purchasing a $50 ticket. Sadly, the Amazeballz Epic Rollercoaster is under maintenance today and is not open. Since it is only one of the ten rides we have at this park, we're sure you'll be happy with a $5 reimbursement."
Does this sound like a fair exchange to you?
No.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
166
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Posted - 2013.11.23 02:37:00 -
[77] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back? I love the total contradiction first you call bs and say nope they do reimburse, basically calling me a liar then you say did you read the technical eula, tos, blah blah fanboy, suck ccps wang, blah blah and they have the right to do it. Lol doesn't get any better. So eager to defend terribleness that you resort to it yourself. |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:09:00 -
[78] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Much better than anything SOE has done.
We got awesome weapon spend 5 bucks for it!
Whoops weapon too popular, nerfing it so other guns have a chance.
I just don't get you.... better than anything SOE has done.... um everquest?
everquest2?
and im sorry ps2 is very popular
so is DCUO for that matter.....all much more popular and successful than dust.
what planet do you play games on?
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
147
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:19:00 -
[79] - Quote
Well obviously we all know this, we all click the button that says we read and agree to the eula and terms and conditions
Christ is lord
Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now.
Free tacos
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
147
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:25:00 -
[80] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right... Ummm no sir im right there as well, I purchased 20 dollars worth of aur consumables that were then changed and they refused reimbursement in 2 separate help tickets. Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back? I love the total contradiction first you call bs and say nope they do reimburse, basically calling me a liar then you say did you read the technical eula, tos, blah blah fanboy, suck ccps wang, blah blah and they have the right to do it. Lol doesn't get any better. So eager to defend terribleness that you resort to it yourself. He's saying they reimburse removals, not when they edit Hes also saying you didnt read before agreeing,also i never have read it but i already knows its in their,of course they make you agree they can change and edit, they openly say hey we change and edit this game on a monthly basis also you half qouted him
Christ is lord
Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now.
Free tacos
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Wako 75
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
86
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:35:00 -
[81] - Quote
Wow sounds like someone gets pubstomped and his aur proto suits cant protect him from how bad he sucks . Let me get this straight you paid into the game and you complain because you didn't get what you wanted right. well bro breaking news you dont always get what you payed for and thats life. Well in this case you got what you payed for you just don't like what you got and want your money back.
Story of Life
It will survive!!!
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
657
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:55:00 -
[82] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Expect the part where they reimburse the aur from the items they are taking away...
But this is the dust forums where you can spew out bullshit and everyone will believe it.
It's always nice to see a hard core loyalist. One would think that when CCP takes from the rich they give it to you.
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
24
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:55:00 -
[83] - Quote
Wako 75 wrote:Wow sounds like someone gets pubstomped and his aur proto suits cant protect him from how bad he sucks . Let me get this straight you paid into the game and you complain because you didn't get what you wanted right. well bro breaking news you dont always get what you payed for and thats life. Well in this case you got what you payed for you just don't like what you got and want your money back. Story of Life
you clearly aren't paying attention... here let me give you something shiny to giggle at...
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Wako 75
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
86
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Posted - 2013.11.23 05:04:00 -
[84] - Quote
xLuca Brasi wrote:Wako 75 wrote:Wow sounds like someone gets pubstomped and his aur proto suits cant protect him from how bad he sucks . Let me get this straight you paid into the game and you complain because you didn't get what you wanted right. well bro breaking news you dont always get what you payed for and thats life. Well in this case you got what you payed for you just don't like what you got and want your money back. Story of Life you clearly aren't paying attention... here let me give you something shiny to giggle at...
yay!!! where is it?
apparently i haven't been paying attention but i feel his argument is just not valid due to us all accepting the user agreement for dust.
It will survive!!!
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
208
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Posted - 2013.11.23 05:07:00 -
[85] - Quote
Wako 75 wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Wako 75 wrote:Wow sounds like someone gets pubstomped and his aur proto suits cant protect him from how bad he sucks . Let me get this straight you paid into the game and you complain because you didn't get what you wanted right. well bro breaking news you dont always get what you payed for and thats life. Well in this case you got what you payed for you just don't like what you got and want your money back. Story of Life you clearly aren't paying attention... here let me give you something shiny to giggle at... yay!!! where is it? apparently i haven't been paying attention but i feel his argument is just not valid due to us all accepting the user agreement for dust.
hes under the impression that becuase an EULA was concidered unconstitutional once that it means that all EULAs are invalid and dont mean anything. |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
30
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Posted - 2013.11.23 05:33:00 -
[86] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:Wako 75 wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Wako 75 wrote:Wow sounds like someone gets pubstomped and his aur proto suits cant protect him from how bad he sucks . Let me get this straight you paid into the game and you complain because you didn't get what you wanted right. well bro breaking news you dont always get what you payed for and thats life. Well in this case you got what you payed for you just don't like what you got and want your money back. Story of Life you clearly aren't paying attention... here let me give you something shiny to giggle at... yay!!! where is it? apparently i haven't been paying attention but i feel his argument is just not valid due to us all accepting the user agreement for dust. hes under the impression that becuase an EULA was concidered unconstitutional once that it means that all EULAs are invalid and dont mean anything.
lol wrong...
seriously all you fanbois do is post without actually reading the threads....
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
209
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Posted - 2013.11.23 05:46:00 -
[87] - Quote
xLuca Brasi wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Wako 75 wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Wako 75 wrote:Wow sounds like someone gets pubstomped and his aur proto suits cant protect him from how bad he sucks . Let me get this straight you paid into the game and you complain because you didn't get what you wanted right. well bro breaking news you dont always get what you payed for and thats life. Well in this case you got what you payed for you just don't like what you got and want your money back. Story of Life you clearly aren't paying attention... here let me give you something shiny to giggle at... yay!!! where is it? apparently i haven't been paying attention but i feel his argument is just not valid due to us all accepting the user agreement for dust. hes under the impression that becuase an EULA was concidered unconstitutional once that it means that all EULAs are invalid and dont mean anything. lol wrong... seriously all you fanbois do is post without actually reading the threads....
the the alrutnatives are
i know im bound by the EULA and dont like it, so im going to ***** anyways
or
i dont think the EULA is legal but im not willing to actually read it or any local laws to prove it so im just going to assume so instead and then ***** about it.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2013.11.23 06:28:00 -
[88] - Quote
Wako 75 wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:Wako 75 wrote:Wow sounds like someone gets pubstomped and his aur proto suits cant protect him from how bad he sucks . Let me get this straight you paid into the game and you complain because you didn't get what you wanted right. well bro breaking news you dont always get what you payed for and thats life. Well in this case you got what you payed for you just don't like what you got and want your money back. Story of Life you clearly aren't paying attention... here let me give you something shiny to giggle at... yay!!! where is it? apparently i haven't been paying attention but i feel his argument is just not valid due to us all accepting the user agreement for dust. There is no argument, only the call to affect change, the legality of the policy is not at question, only the desire of the community to alter said policy. |
Wako 75
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
89
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Posted - 2013.11.23 06:37:00 -
[89] - Quote
how will bpo's getting taken away and refunded really affect you that much? You get to keep your aur. you are just making a big deal over a refund that honestly they didnt have to give us. tbh its mostly the forum community that has hurt this game with constant bursts like this and people who want to see the game burn because they aren't patient enough.
It will survive!!!
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Iyllaria Dai
Legions of Infinite Dominion
28
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Posted - 2013.11.23 06:45:00 -
[90] - Quote
So I find this hilarious. All these QQ'ers are crying because they spent IN GAME MONEY on IN GAME items, yet now that CCP is changing or "balancing" them they want their REAL LIFE money back?
Hmm.. Where was this outcry when CCP changed Logi suits that people spent IN GAME MONEY on that were changed and NO RESPEC or offer of reimbursement was offered? Where was the outcry when nerfs for weapons like the MD or FG were done, yet all are major changes in an item that was purchased under good faith of what it was.
Grow Up.
It's called balancing, change, improvement. Don't like what is currently on the market for AUR, then keep it and wait till they add new stuff.
BPO's ruin the economy. They make the game a pay to win game which from the start was what they were trying to avoid. They should remove every last one and tell you all to get over it.
BPO's used the word permanent to describe the fact it does NOT consume with use. NOT that it will not be changed or in this case removed from the game in order to improve the overall gameplay for EVERYONE, not just your QQ'ing cry baby selves.
Hell they are at least refunding in AUR what they currently value the BPO's at which is FAR MORE than what most of the people bought them at.
All this talk about EULA not holding up in court, how about posting proof of it. Otherwise it's heresay and just more BS spouting from the lips of those who are unhappy with a change to their precious suit versus the overall benefit to the wider expanse of the game.
Hell if CCP gave a refund on BPO's because a few forum junkies are unhappy then they should just wipe the server, do a full reset and close up the game because everyone who has ever bought ANYTHING in the game with AUR, cold hard cash or ISK has spent something on an item that has likely been removed, tweaked, nerfed or otherwise changed and therefore due reimbursement. |
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2980
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Posted - 2013.11.23 06:49:00 -
[91] - Quote
Shut the hell up
please |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
905
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:35:00 -
[92] - Quote
Remember New Berries, this was a hard lesson, and it was expensive, for us.
Learn from our experience.
Remember ISK costs nothing, it is worth nothing and most resembles digital monopoly(tm) money.
SP is the only thing that matters in DUST. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
594
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:00:00 -
[93] - Quote
Aw man im terrible at dust. But i have so many decently good ideas . |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
197
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:27:00 -
[94] - Quote
Iyllaria Dai wrote:So I find this hilarious. All these QQ'ers are crying because they spent IN GAME MONEY on IN GAME items, yet now that CCP is changing or "balancing" them they want their REAL LIFE money back?
Hmm.. Where was this outcry when CCP changed Logi suits that people spent IN GAME MONEY on that were changed and NO RESPEC or offer of reimbursement was offered? Where was the outcry when nerfs for weapons like the MD or FG were done, yet all are major changes in an item that was purchased under good faith of what it was.
Grow Up.
It's called balancing, change, improvement. Don't like what is currently on the market for AUR, then keep it and wait till they add new stuff.
BPO's ruin the economy. They make the game a pay to win game which from the start was what they were trying to avoid. They should remove every last one and tell you all to get over it.
BPO's used the word permanent to describe the fact it does NOT consume with use. NOT that it will not be changed or in this case removed from the game in order to improve the overall gameplay for EVERYONE, not just your QQ'ing cry baby selves.
Hell they are at least refunding in AUR what they currently value the BPO's at which is FAR MORE than what most of the people bought them at.
All this talk about EULA not holding up in court, how about posting proof of it. Otherwise it's heresay and just more BS spouting from the lips of those who are unhappy with a change to their precious suit versus the overall benefit to the wider expanse of the game.
Hell if CCP gave a refund on BPO's because a few forum junkies are unhappy then they should just wipe the server, do a full reset and close up the game because everyone who has ever bought ANYTHING in the game with AUR, cold hard cash or ISK has spent something on an item that has likely been removed, tweaked, nerfed or otherwise changed and therefore due reimbursement. Im only speaking about aur items and in this instance am not refering to bpos....
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
292
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:30:00 -
[95] - Quote
This has always been since dusts inception. If a new player wants to try out a weapon at a higher grade then let them do it in peace. Stop telling people how to spend their money and freaking everyone out. Those who lost the four aur items got their aur back and then some. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
197
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:45:00 -
[96] - Quote
Pvt Numnutz wrote:This has always been since dusts inception. If a new player wants to try out a weapon at a higher grade then let them do it in peace. Stop telling people how to spend their money and freaking everyone out. Those who lost the four aur items got their aur back and then some. Umm no I didnt and its not the point the point here is to affect change, fanboy it up or support it idc which. |
Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention
468
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:48:00 -
[97] - Quote
Disagree with CCP's policy? Stop playing ... This will make them look more after their customers.
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
47
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:57:00 -
[98] - Quote
Necandi Brasil wrote:Disagree with CCP's policy? Stop playing ... This will make them look more after their customers.
the only real problem with that. is some of us love this game, and would rather try to get CCP to compromise so they can maintain our business.
that's the only real win/win...
they treat us reasonably, we can play the game without feeling like our time is meaningless to them, they can get more of our money.
every business is about people 1st, product is secondary.
make your consumer feel good, and good about using your product, and you will have a customer for life.
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:35:00 -
[99] - Quote
I just had to respond to a thread with a title in all caps.
THIS IS MY RESPONSE.
Life is killing me.
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:36:00 -
[100] - Quote
xLuca Brasi wrote:[quote=Necandi Brasil]every business is about people 1st, product is secondary. You must be new to capitalism...
Life is killing me.
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KayDidYue
Mercenaries On Duty
4
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:41:00 -
[101] - Quote
[quote=Viktor Hadah JrWell if comparing it to wal-mart you can't buy a laptop keep it around for 6 months see a cheaper and different model comes around then go back to wal-mart and say "I did not use this, so i want my money back"
CCP gives you warning before major updates or changes occur, if you had fused locus grenades sitting around for 3 months and then you see the update and say "hey I did not use these grenades although i had them for 3 months and it is your fault CCP so give me my money back."
If you are going to buy something and not use it for a few month it will change it is not fault of CCP's you are not using them during the time you deemed they were good.[/quote]
So I bought 25 'Farsight' Sniper Rifles, only used 5 when they had a triple SP event, and ended up being able to get a better rifle using ISK, Why can't I sell back to them (or someone else) those remaining rifles? If I could get the AUR back, I would spend it on something else so they would not be out of money.
So if I buy something and they change it (which, btw, they do not always give you a fair amount of time to use something up) then in most places it is considered illegal to change something that you paid for.
As an example, if you buy a years subscription to a monthly magazine, then they change it from monthly to quarterly, you would except that?
How about you buy a car that you are told gets 30 mpg, then they change something in the engine and it gets only 15 mpg and you are forced to get this change performed on your car, would you except that?
I think the policy needs to be changed too!
I do not really need my "real money" back for the changes, but I do think that they should give me back the AUR for any unused equipment. As of now, they have made changes and not returned anything.
But I do think that the refunds for the vehicle changes coming down is a good one. At least I will be able to use what I have remaining (being returned) to good use for something else. Furthermore, at least this time, they have given ample warning, where many times in the past we have received little to no warning.
Male or female, noob or pro, my SR is steady, and my trigger ready.
Walk or run, if you're in my scope, you will die!
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Rinas Rylos
Rinas' Raiders
66
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:41:00 -
[102] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:If you want a game that stays the same since release i would suggest CoD,
****, not even. Remember when they changed some stuff and got freaking death threats over it? |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
52
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:41:00 -
[103] - Quote
Everything Dies wrote:xLuca Brasi wrote:[quote=Necandi Brasil]every business is about people 1st, product is secondary. You must be new to capitalism...
lol you really don't know what you think you know by posting this little quip.....
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention
468
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:09:00 -
[104] - Quote
Since this BPO removal thing had this effect on the community, I highly doubt they will do this again ...
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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EL DONGITO
TIRANNY OF EVIL MEN
0
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:28:00 -
[105] - Quote
I gotta hand it to you INFINITE, only you could get this many players panties in a wad. Props my man! Its my own private little soap opera. I can't wait for the next episode. |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
270
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:41:00 -
[106] - Quote
they did refund my UVT.
Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
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NomaDz 2K
DUTY FR33
77
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Posted - 2013.11.23 22:54:00 -
[107] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:If your a new merc pay close attention. Ccp relys on new mercs and their money to support this game. As of now anything you purchase from ccp can be taken and or changed including boosters, bpo, aur consumables etc etc, over the past 6 months they have repeatedly done this and worse as they now have started refusing reimbursement for these aur items purchased no matter the amount. My advice to all new players do not purchase anything from this game until this company agrees to change this policy for reimbursement when aur items are then either taken or changed.... /\ TH!S |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
64
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Posted - 2013.11.23 23:16:00 -
[108] - Quote
NomaDz 2K wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:If your a new merc pay close attention. Ccp relys on new mercs and their money to support this game. As of now anything you purchase from ccp can be taken and or changed including boosters, bpo, aur consumables etc etc, over the past 6 months they have repeatedly done this and worse as they now have started refusing reimbursement for these aur items purchased no matter the amount. My advice to all new players do not purchase anything from this game until this company agrees to change this policy for reimbursement when aur items are then either taken or changed.... /\ TH!S
double this^
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
274
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Posted - 2013.11.23 23:47:00 -
[109] - Quote
Problem is OP, the time to dispute the terms of a contract is not after you have signed it. Creating your character and loging in are as good as a signature, and unfortunately for you, you either did not read the EULA (I sure as hell didn't), or you saw something that you didn't like yet you signed anyway. There is no way around it, and you are going to have to suck it up and deal with it.
I'm no lawyer by any means, but if CCP is following the contract they had you sign, and you are the one attempting to wiggle your way out of a possibility that was pointed out and explained before you agreed to the contract, technically you are the one in the wrong, and if CCP wanted to be d*cks about it, they could probably come after you for breach of contract.
You told CCP whenever you started playing that you understood they would be fully within their legal rights to do what they are currently doing, and you became a part of a legal binding document. The time to fight this was before you agreed to the EULA, it's to late now man. Sorry. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2013.11.23 23:53:00 -
[110] - Quote
Dunk Mujunk wrote:Problem is OP, the time to dispute the terms of a contract is not after you have signed it. Creating your character and loging in are as good as a signature, and unfortunately for you, you either did not read the EULA (I sure as hell didn't), or you saw something that you didn't like yet you signed anyway. There is no way around it, and you are going to have to suck it up and deal with it.
I'm no lawyer by any means, but if CCP is following the contract they had you sign, and you are the one attempting to wiggle your way out of a possibility that was pointed out and explained before you agreed to the contract, technically you are the one in the wrong, and if CCP wanted to be d*cks about it, they could probably come after you for breach of contract.
You told CCP whenever you started playing that you understood they would be fully within their legal rights to do what they are currently doing, and you became a part of a legal binding document. The time to fight this was before you agreed to the EULA, it's to late now man. Sorry. No problem with the contract the problem is you arent paying attention thanks for your semi legal advice. This is not a question of legality. Its an attempt to affect change. If you are happy with the status quo good job, cheerlead away, but if you want change, well thats part of what these forums are here for, to express the desire for change in the game. Thats what we are doing here. |
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
274
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:01:00 -
[111] - Quote
As I said, the time for your issues was before agreeing to the EULA. You can do whatever you feel is needs to be done, but you don't seem to understand CCP is not a Mom and Pop corner store. They covered their bases, and you did not. They put the EULA in place to protect themselves from issues such as this one. They are a business.
If you don't mind sharing, did you not read the EULA, or did you just figure CCP would never exercise their legal right to screw with their licenced property?
I personally own some Dren BPOs and a Saga LAV BPO. CCP has said those are mine to keep, though I would not be surprised at all if one day they are taken from me, seeing as how the EULA clearly states CCP can do whatever they want with the equipment i've purchased. And of course, if the claim is these changes are for the greater good of the game (a game you liked enough to spend money on), I am all for it.
Anyway good luck or whatever. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:22:00 -
[112] - Quote
Dunk Mujunk wrote:As I said, the time for your issues was before agreeing to the EULA. You can do whatever you feel is needs to be done, but you don't seem to understand CCP is not a Mom and Pop corner store. They covered their bases, and you did not. They put the EULA in place to protect themselves from issues such as this one. They are a business.
If you don't mind sharing, did you not read the EULA, or did you just figure CCP would never exercise their legal right to screw with their licenced property?
I personally own some Dren BPOs and a Saga LAV BPO. CCP has said those are mine to keep, though I would not be surprised at all if one day they are taken from me, seeing as how the EULA clearly states CCP can do whatever they want with the equipment i've purchased. And of course, if the claim is these changes are for the greater good of the game (a game you liked enough to spend money on), I am all for it.
Anyway good luck or whatever. Wow this guy is slow, ya dude we get it, legal, eula, tos, blah blah blah, ok now we are to CHANGE that, if you like it great, I want better customer service and thats all, you keep likeing it and ill keep trying to change it, but the whole eula legal whatever has been stated about 100 times in this post we get it. Thats why its called CHANGE. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:23:00 -
[113] - Quote
Dunk Mujunk wrote:As I said, the time for your issues was before agreeing to the EULA. You can do whatever you feel is needs to be done, but you don't seem to understand CCP is not a Mom and Pop corner store. They covered their bases, and you did not. They put the EULA in place to protect themselves from issues such as this one. They are a business.
If you don't mind sharing, did you not read the EULA, or did you just figure CCP would never exercise their legal right to screw with their licenced property?
I personally own some Dren BPOs and a Saga LAV BPO. CCP has said those are mine to keep, though I would not be surprised at all if one day they are taken from me, seeing as how the EULA clearly states CCP can do whatever they want with the equipment i've purchased. And of course, if the claim is these changes are for the greater good of the game (a game you liked enough to spend money on), I am all for it.
Anyway good luck or whatever. For feck sake, READ the OP. I'm not on board with the attitude these lads have at times but I'll do them the courtesy of at least reading what they want. Much as the thread gets a bit derailed at times the OP's desire is for changes to be made for the future. They're not arguing the past which you think they are, aside from the few detours. |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
830
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:24:00 -
[114] - Quote
ey ccp could we get some blue tags on this? this clearly is the most important thread on this forum |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
275
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:32:00 -
[115] - Quote
I understand completely what the OP wants. He can take shots at me and everyone else all he wants, it doesn't change any of the facts. You can champion "changing the way things work" all you want, it's no skin off my balls.
You ever gonna answer the question OP? Did you not read the EULA? Or did you just ignore what it said?
Anyway, y'all have fun trying to pretend your argument pertains to anything other than a legal binding document, I hope your crusade goes nicely.
I, however, cannot support your cause. Maybe because i'm an @sshole, or maybe because I can read, i'll let you decide.
EDIT: The OP is arguing about the past, asking for refunds. Grant it, OP also wants change for future, but maybe OP would have been better served focusing on the future, as opposed to b*tching about the situation he/she has found themselves in currently. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:39:00 -
[116] - Quote
Dunk Mujunk wrote:I understand completely what the OP wants. He can take shots at me and everyone else all he wants, it doesn't change any of the facts. You can champion "changing the way things work" all you want, it's no skin off my balls.
You ever gonna answer the question OP? Did you not read the EULA? Or did you just ignore what it said?
Anyway, y'all have fun trying to pretend your argument pertains to anything other than a legal binding document, I hope your crusade goes nicely.
I, however, cannot support your cause. Maybe because i'm an @sshole, or maybe because I can read, i'll let you decide.
No, what you are is a fool that maybe can read but can't comprehend what he read. Again, the issue here in this thread discussion is not whether or not they feel they have been done wrong by the EULA and are trying to get out of it, but, that they want CCP to set it up in a different manner for the future. The tread where you posted up your response from here is where the argument is over the legality etc of the EULA and the attempt to get out of it. Ya a bit dim or something |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
275
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:58:00 -
[117] - Quote
lol. This isn't about a contract, it's about the balance of good and evil, it's about the duality of man, it's about each persons right as an individual to pursue the video game dream laid before all human kind by video god.
Actually, no, it is about a contract.
You see, because of near sighted folk like you ridiculous things like EULAs exist.
Imagine, a world where CCP is unable to continue development of their game because whenever an individual player decided they did not want something in the game to change, they would cry and moan and force CCP to keep things as they are.
In your video game utopia, the flaylock is still as effective as a light weapon, the mass driver is still raining a never ending death, and BPOs of modules that are being removed from the game are still in players inventories because "it's not about legalities".
If CCP was forced to stick with anything any random player didn't want changed, Dust would be jacked up beyond belief. If your beef is about getting your refund, you would be better off not showing your @ss on the forums and dealing with CCP in a respectful mannor, and in private.
If your beef is the way CCP runs it's business, as I said good luck, let me know how it all works out for ya ;-0 |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
275
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:14:00 -
[118] - Quote
Heres a fun little tid bit, y'all aren't even complaining to the right people-
Dust EULA wrote: Purchase and use of items are subject to the Network Terms of Service and User Agreement. This online service has been sublicensed to you by Sony Computer Entertainment America.
Any content purchased in an in-game store will be purchased from Sony Network Entertainment Europe Limited (GÇ£SNEEGÇ¥) and be subject to Sony Entertainment Network Terms of Service and User Agreement which is available on the PlayStation-«Store.
I'm afraid you're going to have to accept the whole "legality argument" on this one.
I would suggest reading the Sony Entertainment Network TOS/UA, then contact Sony Network Entertainment Europe Limited and continuing from there.
And I guess that answers my question on whether OP actually read the EULA |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:18:00 -
[119] - Quote
Dunk Mujunk wrote:lol. This isn't about a contract, it's about the balance of good and evil, it's about the duality of man, it's about each persons right as an individual to pursue the video game dream laid before all human kind by video god.
Actually, no, it is about a contract.
You see, because of near sighted folk like you ridiculous things like EULAs exist.
Imagine, a world where CCP is unable to continue development of their game because whenever an individual player decided they did not want something in the game to change, they would cry and moan and force CCP to keep things as they are.
In your video game utopia, the flaylock is still as effective as a light weapon, the mass driver is still raining a never ending death, and BPOs of modules that are being removed from the game are still in players inventories because "it's not about legalities".
If CCP was forced to stick with anything any random player didn't want changed, Dust would be jacked up beyond belief. If your beef is about getting your refund, you would be better off not showing your @ss on the forums and dealing with CCP in a respectful mannor, and in private.
If your beef is the way CCP runs it's business, as I said good luck, let me know how it all works out for ya ;-0 Lol, you really are an idiotic, ignorant douche bag. I don't agree with changing anything as I'm happy with the EULA, as I've stated in many other threads. But, I do support people questioning status quo. It's healthy and important to do so. Anyway, whatever. Arguing with a fool of your standard goes nowhere when they can't even grasp the basic subject matter. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
275
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:21:00 -
[120] - Quote
Again, in a strictly legal sense, you are not allowed to complain about what you are complaining about-
Dust EULA wrote: You may play DUST 514 by downloading and using CCP's proprietary software (the "Software"). Using the Software allows you to log into CCP's client system (the "System") and interact within the game environment created by CCP. CCP also operates the game EVE Online, which interacts with DUST 514 and is run using the same System.
To play DUST 514, CCP requires that you review and agree to the following terms and conditions of this End User License Agreement ("EULA").
**which contains nuggets such as**
CCP does not guarantee that it will continue to offer access to the System or support the Game. CCP may, in its sole discretion, cease to provide any or all of the services offered in connection with DUST 514 (including access to the System and any or all features or components of the Game)
Oh yea, but this isn't about whats legal and whats not, I keep forgetting. |
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:29:00 -
[121] - Quote
Dunk Mujunk wrote:Again, in a strictly legal sense, you are not allowed to complain about what you are complaining about- Dust EULA wrote: You may play DUST 514 by downloading and using CCP's proprietary software (the "Software"). Using the Software allows you to log into CCP's client system (the "System") and interact within the game environment created by CCP. CCP also operates the game EVE Online, which interacts with DUST 514 and is run using the same System.
To play DUST 514, CCP requires that you review and agree to the following terms and conditions of this End User License Agreement ("EULA").
**which contains nuggets such as**
CCP does not guarantee that it will continue to offer access to the System or support the Game. CCP may, in its sole discretion, cease to provide any or all of the services offered in connection with DUST 514 (including access to the System and any or all features or components of the Game)
Oh yea, but this isn't about whats legal and whats not, I keep forgetting. Let's see. CCP's desire for feedback on how this game is for the players, from the players , is something I imagined is it? Complaining IS feedback as requested! Haha, you attempt to appear relevant by quotoing EULAs here is fecking hilarious. Keep it up. Go on. Here's a hint. You're on the right track, but in the wrong place.
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
276
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:30:00 -
[122] - Quote
Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Lol, you really are an idiotic, ignorant douche bag. I don't agree with changing anything as I'm happy with the EULA, as I've stated in many other threads. But, I do support people questioning status quo. It's healthy and important to do so. Anyway, whatever. Arguing with a fool of your standard goes nowhere when they can't even grasp the basic subject matter.
I'll say this nice and slow for you-
If the OP wants to address his/her issue
He/she needs to contact Sony Network Entertainment Europe Limited
Because CCP is not the entity responsible for handling the OPs issue
I've showed y'all the path, if OP wants to do what OP wants to do, OP will HAVE to go through SNEE, crying to CCP will accomplish nothing.
Do you order a pizza, then go to the hospital expecting the doctor to make and deliver your pizza? You 2 special mofos might, but thats not the way it works.
But please, keep entertaining me. I'm sure it will click at some point that i'm not trolling you, and that i'm actually telling OP the proper channels to pursue to attempt to handle their issue.
But in the mean time, I will enjoy the specialness on display, for it entertains me.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:37:00 -
[123] - Quote
Haha, I'll stick to what I said about ya before. Enjoy sitting there waiting to feel special. You deserve it. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
276
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:41:00 -
[124] - Quote
Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Let's see. CCP's desire for feedback on how this game is for the players, from the players , is something I imagined is it? Complaining IS feedback as requested! Haha, you attempt to appear relevant by quotoing EULAs here is fecking hilarious. Keep it up. Go on. Here's a hint. You're on the right track, but in the wrong place.
You are right, CCP is all about feedback from the players about their game. And i'm sure the dudes balancing the game and designing the maps would love to hear your take on International Business Practices and Ethics.
The business end of CCP, however, is not taking tips on how to run that business, and once again, SNEE is who needs to be contacted. You are almost there buddy, you can do it.
Here let me try a word problem-
If CCP says that any and all Dust related transactions are the responsibility and business of SNEE.....
Then the company to contact about Dust related purchase issues is.......
Is it all coming together yet? Here, let me help more-
The only 2 possible answers are CCP and SNEE, and CCP is the wrong answer.
Am I getting anywhere? Have you finally realized i'm not trolling, that i'm TELLING YOU WHO YOU NEED TO CONTACT ABOUT YOUR COMPLAINT?
Of course not, so lets continue. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
276
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:48:00 -
[125] - Quote
Oh i'm the specialest dude on the planet.
Which makes me wonder why I can comprehend basic business structures, yet you seem totally unable to.
And seeing as how you have no dog in this fight, why don't you go ahead and refresh me as to what your argument is.
From what i've pieced together, you don't like the way in which the entity responsible for handling Dust related purchases does business.
Thats fine, no problem.
So if you want to deal with this issue, contact SNEE.
Bam. Simple as that.
But I guess i'm still spouting cryptic legal jargon.
Rebuttle? |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:39:00 -
[126] - Quote
Dunk Mujunk wrote:Oh i'm the specialest dude on the planet.
Which makes me wonder why I can comprehend basic business structures, yet you seem totally unable to.
And seeing as how you have no dog in this fight, why don't you go ahead and refresh me as to what your argument is.
From what i've pieced together, you don't like the way in which the entity responsible for handling Dust related purchases does business.
Thats fine, no problem.
So if you want to deal with this issue, contact SNEE.
Bam. Simple as that.
But I guess i'm still spouting cryptic legal jargon.
Rebuttle? I am not fully understanding why you say to contact sony, if ccp has given people, including me, reimbursement in the past then why can they not any and every time where aur was used to purchase a product? Also that product being purchased with certain expectations to THIS end user as detailed through the product's ATTRIBUTES describing the exact numerical values which represent the basis for how we decided on the very act of purchase it's self, and amazingly this product is changed fundamentally and we have no expectation of reimbursement? Not legal right, just the expectation as a paying customer doing good business. So I'm just asking ccp about changing to a business model that would allow the consumer to feel more confident with the idea of making greater purchases sooner..... Put simply, ill spend more money if I know you will reimburse me if you change what I bought..... It really is that simple. |
Mdog 24158
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:02:00 -
[127] - Quote
I doubt any new players actually check the forums
Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
75
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:06:00 -
[128] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:If your a new merc pay close attention. Ccp relys on new mercs and their money to support this game. As of now anything you purchase from ccp can be taken and or changed including boosters, bpo, aur consumables etc etc, over the past 6 months they have repeatedly done this and worse as they now have started refusing reimbursement for these aur items purchased no matter the amount. My advice to all new players do not purchase anything from this game until this company agrees to change this policy for reimbursement when aur items are then either taken or changed....
doh spent 300$ to have all my tanks destroyed by a glitch that freezes the game removing the fitting or vehicle your equiped with and counts as lost battle needs a system that can tell the difference between the freeze gltch and leaving battle
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1869
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:10:00 -
[129] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:Oh i'm the specialest dude on the planet.
Which makes me wonder why I can comprehend basic business structures, yet you seem totally unable to.
And seeing as how you have no dog in this fight, why don't you go ahead and refresh me as to what your argument is.
From what i've pieced together, you don't like the way in which the entity responsible for handling Dust related purchases does business.
Thats fine, no problem.
So if you want to deal with this issue, contact SNEE.
Bam. Simple as that.
But I guess i'm still spouting cryptic legal jargon.
Rebuttle? I am not fully understanding why you say to contact sony, if ccp has given people, including me, reimbursement in the past then why can they not any and every time where aur was used to purchase a product? Also that product being purchased with certain expectations to THIS end user as detailed through the product's ATTRIBUTES describing the exact numerical values which represent the basis for how we decided on the very act of purchase it's self, and amazingly this product is changed fundamentally and we have no expectation of reimbursement? Not legal right, just the expectation as a paying customer doing good business. So I'm just asking ccp about changing to a business model that would allow the consumer to feel more confident with the idea of making greater purchases sooner..... Put simply, ill spend more money if I know you will reimburse me if you change what I bought..... It really is that simple.
Not trying to be a ass, but the transaction went through the PSN. To gain funds, you had to use a Sony application to do so. So since you paid Sony to pay CCP, you would have to contact Sony. If Dust 514 had a in game transaction system with the exclusion of going through PSN, then yes, you would have to talk to CCP to get your money back. But that isn't how it worked out when you bought the items.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:16:00 -
[130] - Quote
To be a bit more practical let me give a relevant example. In the past couple of weeks ccp has had both aur weapon and suits on sale, 50% off, great! Psssttt <--------- That guy bought like 650 Caldari Logi suits because it was a great deal, and some construct duvolles, neo scouts, and a few other things....
And lets say someone like my self purchased many of these items, and then maybe I keep them, using them rarely, stocking up for market trading, preparing for a series of drawn out factional or pc battles and not having time for the isk grind, short on aur and simply trying to use what you have wisely, these are all reasons other than the monotonous and worn out cry from the beleaguered and yet supporters of ccpism, fanboyish yaa@aaawn, that says "fotm " ok ya flavor of the month should be making ccp rich as a trademark as much as that is used as a reason to discredit anything concerning the purchase of aur items and stockpiling aur gear, debunked
Now im sitting on all this aur gear and my large purchases of say suits or guns gets nerfed or even buffed, or removed, would I the average consumer think man Id like that 20 bucks back to spend on a new gun thats coming out soon?
And then maybe love that combat rifle, adv level, bought the proto I think ill spec 3 in the rail rifle and buy me 400 or 500 of those, to go on my shiny new proto commando that im going to make work this time So now because of the awesome refund that let me buy 20 bucks of combats I bought another 20 of rails.
Reimburse our aur purchases ccp please, no matter what, guaranteed like walmart? |
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
279
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:19:00 -
[131] - Quote
*facepalm* |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:20:00 -
[132] - Quote
Mdog 24158 wrote:I doubt any new players actually check the forums I dint spect thay did wen I writ dis hear pho rum.... |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
98
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Posted - 2013.11.24 08:33:00 -
[133] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Mdog 24158 wrote:I doubt any new players actually check the forums I dint spect thay did wen I writ dis hear pho rum....
new players quit after their first stomp...
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:30:00 -
[134] - Quote
xLuca Brasi wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Mdog 24158 wrote:I doubt any new players actually check the forums I dint spect thay did wen I writ dis hear pho rum.... new players quit after their first stomp... Only if they specd the plasma cannon. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:34:00 -
[135] - Quote
Dunk Mujunk wrote:*facepalm* Surely that was a great working example? |
xLuca Brasi
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2013.11.24 18:31:00 -
[136] - Quote
your money isn't safe in ccp's hands noobs.
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1215
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Posted - 2013.11.25 06:20:00 -
[137] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Perhaps you are simple, or maybe english is your second language, perhaps you can not see the truth through your own personal terribleness at fps, I dont know why you are unable to understand. Let me try again, we want to change the policy to give reimbursement for aur items that are removed or changed, doesnt matter what or why or when. If you support the policy great, you have no reason to be here cheerleading. Some of us want things to change no diffrent than people wanting other things changed in this game, if you have an intelligent reasoning as to why this policy could not or should not change elaborate and enlighten us please.
Well, well, well...
I stop following this thread after page 4 but i could not resist coming back just to do this.
http://i.imgur.com/pVAVles.jpg
Please continue your butthurtness those and try to keep your deaths down.
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO's are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
205
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Posted - 2013.11.26 13:05:00 -
[138] - Quote
BREAKING NEWS+ù+++=#$/^& This just in, ccp has asked us to spend 100,000 aur on consumables for some black eagle scout suits. WOW Really ccp? So I guess this is a great time to have this topic. Because surely if I spend 50 dollars during your sale in the next 5 days and I stockpile all of these consumables and then you come along and change or nerf something in 1.7 that we are not aware of yet since we have no patch notes, you will gladly refund those aur items right? Right ccp? Guys, hey guys umm ya....... Are you starting to see the manipulation yet here people? |
BMSTUBBY
343
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Posted - 2013.11.26 13:13:00 -
[139] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:*facepalm* Surely that was a great working example?
Dude get over it! CCP don't give two fucks about you or your opinion. They just want your monies. Game is still in beta wait for game to not be beta anymore and then spend you monies.
Or if you want to support this beta then spend your monies now.
I used to play DUST514 but then CCP took a COD arrow to their knee.
MMO Someday SoonGäó
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