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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:29:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Again, in a strictly legal sense, you are not allowed to complain about what you are complaining about- Dust EULA wrote: You may play DUST 514 by downloading and using CCP's proprietary software (the "Software"). Using the Software allows you to log into CCP's client system (the "System") and interact within the game environment created by CCP. CCP also operates the game EVE Online, which interacts with DUST 514 and is run using the same System.
To play DUST 514, CCP requires that you review and agree to the following terms and conditions of this End User License Agreement ("EULA").
**which contains nuggets such as**
CCP does not guarantee that it will continue to offer access to the System or support the Game. CCP may, in its sole discretion, cease to provide any or all of the services offered in connection with DUST 514 (including access to the System and any or all features or components of the Game)
Oh yea, but this isn't about whats legal and whats not, I keep forgetting. Let's see. CCP's desire for feedback on how this game is for the players, from the players , is something I imagined is it? Complaining IS feedback as requested! Haha, you attempt to appear relevant by quotoing EULAs here is fecking hilarious. Keep it up. Go on. Here's a hint. You're on the right track, but in the wrong place.
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
276
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:30:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Lol, you really are an idiotic, ignorant douche bag. I don't agree with changing anything as I'm happy with the EULA, as I've stated in many other threads. But, I do support people questioning status quo. It's healthy and important to do so. Anyway, whatever. Arguing with a fool of your standard goes nowhere when they can't even grasp the basic subject matter.
I'll say this nice and slow for you-
If the OP wants to address his/her issue
He/she needs to contact Sony Network Entertainment Europe Limited
Because CCP is not the entity responsible for handling the OPs issue
I've showed y'all the path, if OP wants to do what OP wants to do, OP will HAVE to go through SNEE, crying to CCP will accomplish nothing.
Do you order a pizza, then go to the hospital expecting the doctor to make and deliver your pizza? You 2 special mofos might, but thats not the way it works.
But please, keep entertaining me. I'm sure it will click at some point that i'm not trolling you, and that i'm actually telling OP the proper channels to pursue to attempt to handle their issue.
But in the mean time, I will enjoy the specialness on display, for it entertains me.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
248
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:37:00 -
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Haha, I'll stick to what I said about ya before. Enjoy sitting there waiting to feel special. You deserve it. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
276
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:41:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Let's see. CCP's desire for feedback on how this game is for the players, from the players , is something I imagined is it? Complaining IS feedback as requested! Haha, you attempt to appear relevant by quotoing EULAs here is fecking hilarious. Keep it up. Go on. Here's a hint. You're on the right track, but in the wrong place.
You are right, CCP is all about feedback from the players about their game. And i'm sure the dudes balancing the game and designing the maps would love to hear your take on International Business Practices and Ethics.
The business end of CCP, however, is not taking tips on how to run that business, and once again, SNEE is who needs to be contacted. You are almost there buddy, you can do it.
Here let me try a word problem-
If CCP says that any and all Dust related transactions are the responsibility and business of SNEE.....
Then the company to contact about Dust related purchase issues is.......
Is it all coming together yet? Here, let me help more-
The only 2 possible answers are CCP and SNEE, and CCP is the wrong answer.
Am I getting anywhere? Have you finally realized i'm not trolling, that i'm TELLING YOU WHO YOU NEED TO CONTACT ABOUT YOUR COMPLAINT?
Of course not, so lets continue. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
276
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:48:00 -
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Oh i'm the specialest dude on the planet.
Which makes me wonder why I can comprehend basic business structures, yet you seem totally unable to.
And seeing as how you have no dog in this fight, why don't you go ahead and refresh me as to what your argument is.
From what i've pieced together, you don't like the way in which the entity responsible for handling Dust related purchases does business.
Thats fine, no problem.
So if you want to deal with this issue, contact SNEE.
Bam. Simple as that.
But I guess i'm still spouting cryptic legal jargon.
Rebuttle? |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:39:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Oh i'm the specialest dude on the planet.
Which makes me wonder why I can comprehend basic business structures, yet you seem totally unable to.
And seeing as how you have no dog in this fight, why don't you go ahead and refresh me as to what your argument is.
From what i've pieced together, you don't like the way in which the entity responsible for handling Dust related purchases does business.
Thats fine, no problem.
So if you want to deal with this issue, contact SNEE.
Bam. Simple as that.
But I guess i'm still spouting cryptic legal jargon.
Rebuttle? I am not fully understanding why you say to contact sony, if ccp has given people, including me, reimbursement in the past then why can they not any and every time where aur was used to purchase a product? Also that product being purchased with certain expectations to THIS end user as detailed through the product's ATTRIBUTES describing the exact numerical values which represent the basis for how we decided on the very act of purchase it's self, and amazingly this product is changed fundamentally and we have no expectation of reimbursement? Not legal right, just the expectation as a paying customer doing good business. So I'm just asking ccp about changing to a business model that would allow the consumer to feel more confident with the idea of making greater purchases sooner..... Put simply, ill spend more money if I know you will reimburse me if you change what I bought..... It really is that simple. |
Mdog 24158
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:02:00 -
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I doubt any new players actually check the forums
Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
75
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:06:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:If your a new merc pay close attention. Ccp relys on new mercs and their money to support this game. As of now anything you purchase from ccp can be taken and or changed including boosters, bpo, aur consumables etc etc, over the past 6 months they have repeatedly done this and worse as they now have started refusing reimbursement for these aur items purchased no matter the amount. My advice to all new players do not purchase anything from this game until this company agrees to change this policy for reimbursement when aur items are then either taken or changed....
doh spent 300$ to have all my tanks destroyed by a glitch that freezes the game removing the fitting or vehicle your equiped with and counts as lost battle needs a system that can tell the difference between the freeze gltch and leaving battle
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1869
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:10:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:Oh i'm the specialest dude on the planet.
Which makes me wonder why I can comprehend basic business structures, yet you seem totally unable to.
And seeing as how you have no dog in this fight, why don't you go ahead and refresh me as to what your argument is.
From what i've pieced together, you don't like the way in which the entity responsible for handling Dust related purchases does business.
Thats fine, no problem.
So if you want to deal with this issue, contact SNEE.
Bam. Simple as that.
But I guess i'm still spouting cryptic legal jargon.
Rebuttle? I am not fully understanding why you say to contact sony, if ccp has given people, including me, reimbursement in the past then why can they not any and every time where aur was used to purchase a product? Also that product being purchased with certain expectations to THIS end user as detailed through the product's ATTRIBUTES describing the exact numerical values which represent the basis for how we decided on the very act of purchase it's self, and amazingly this product is changed fundamentally and we have no expectation of reimbursement? Not legal right, just the expectation as a paying customer doing good business. So I'm just asking ccp about changing to a business model that would allow the consumer to feel more confident with the idea of making greater purchases sooner..... Put simply, ill spend more money if I know you will reimburse me if you change what I bought..... It really is that simple.
Not trying to be a ass, but the transaction went through the PSN. To gain funds, you had to use a Sony application to do so. So since you paid Sony to pay CCP, you would have to contact Sony. If Dust 514 had a in game transaction system with the exclusion of going through PSN, then yes, you would have to talk to CCP to get your money back. But that isn't how it worked out when you bought the items.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:16:00 -
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To be a bit more practical let me give a relevant example. In the past couple of weeks ccp has had both aur weapon and suits on sale, 50% off, great! Psssttt <--------- That guy bought like 650 Caldari Logi suits because it was a great deal, and some construct duvolles, neo scouts, and a few other things....
And lets say someone like my self purchased many of these items, and then maybe I keep them, using them rarely, stocking up for market trading, preparing for a series of drawn out factional or pc battles and not having time for the isk grind, short on aur and simply trying to use what you have wisely, these are all reasons other than the monotonous and worn out cry from the beleaguered and yet supporters of ccpism, fanboyish yaa@aaawn, that says "fotm " ok ya flavor of the month should be making ccp rich as a trademark as much as that is used as a reason to discredit anything concerning the purchase of aur items and stockpiling aur gear, debunked
Now im sitting on all this aur gear and my large purchases of say suits or guns gets nerfed or even buffed, or removed, would I the average consumer think man Id like that 20 bucks back to spend on a new gun thats coming out soon?
And then maybe love that combat rifle, adv level, bought the proto I think ill spec 3 in the rail rifle and buy me 400 or 500 of those, to go on my shiny new proto commando that im going to make work this time So now because of the awesome refund that let me buy 20 bucks of combats I bought another 20 of rails.
Reimburse our aur purchases ccp please, no matter what, guaranteed like walmart? |
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
279
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:19:00 -
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*facepalm* |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2013.11.24 03:20:00 -
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Mdog 24158 wrote:I doubt any new players actually check the forums I dint spect thay did wen I writ dis hear pho rum.... |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University Ivy League
98
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Posted - 2013.11.24 08:33:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Mdog 24158 wrote:I doubt any new players actually check the forums I dint spect thay did wen I writ dis hear pho rum....
new players quit after their first stomp...
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:30:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Mdog 24158 wrote:I doubt any new players actually check the forums I dint spect thay did wen I writ dis hear pho rum.... new players quit after their first stomp... Only if they specd the plasma cannon. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:34:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:*facepalm* Surely that was a great working example? |
xLuca Brasi
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2013.11.24 18:31:00 -
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your money isn't safe in ccp's hands noobs.
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1215
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Posted - 2013.11.25 06:20:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Perhaps you are simple, or maybe english is your second language, perhaps you can not see the truth through your own personal terribleness at fps, I dont know why you are unable to understand. Let me try again, we want to change the policy to give reimbursement for aur items that are removed or changed, doesnt matter what or why or when. If you support the policy great, you have no reason to be here cheerleading. Some of us want things to change no diffrent than people wanting other things changed in this game, if you have an intelligent reasoning as to why this policy could not or should not change elaborate and enlighten us please.
Well, well, well...
I stop following this thread after page 4 but i could not resist coming back just to do this.
http://i.imgur.com/pVAVles.jpg
Please continue your butthurtness those and try to keep your deaths down.
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
BPO's are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
205
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Posted - 2013.11.26 13:05:00 -
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BREAKING NEWS+ù+++=#$/^& This just in, ccp has asked us to spend 100,000 aur on consumables for some black eagle scout suits. WOW Really ccp? So I guess this is a great time to have this topic. Because surely if I spend 50 dollars during your sale in the next 5 days and I stockpile all of these consumables and then you come along and change or nerf something in 1.7 that we are not aware of yet since we have no patch notes, you will gladly refund those aur items right? Right ccp? Guys, hey guys umm ya....... Are you starting to see the manipulation yet here people? |
BMSTUBBY
343
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Posted - 2013.11.26 13:13:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:*facepalm* Surely that was a great working example?
Dude get over it! CCP don't give two fucks about you or your opinion. They just want your monies. Game is still in beta wait for game to not be beta anymore and then spend you monies.
Or if you want to support this beta then spend your monies now.
I used to play DUST514 but then CCP took a COD arrow to their knee.
MMO Someday SoonGäó
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