Expect the part where they reimburse the aur part you are right...

Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back?

There's a BIG difference between 'changed' and 'removed'.

Should probably make that clear.

I'll make sure to encourage everyone I recruit to purchase from CCP.

If you want a game that stays the same since release i would suggest CoD, but i like a ever changing game/universe that keeps improving not everyone is going to be happy with all the changes but at least new content is being add and old content is being fixed and updated. this upcoming patch they are changing tanks and adding new weapons. I'll pick change over staleness anyday, if you don't like change i would suggest not playing Dust or EVE.

You get the aur back. Stop crying.

Yep, same as. Although, most people I play with don't have an issue with spending a couple of bob for a fun game, and they don't mind not getting it back after the fun is over. Off course, some cheapskates hanging around these forums think different, but everyone to their own eh

Because ccp taking away militia bpos is just as bad as buying and selling humans at auction like cattle.

I only bought aur to get bpo's....

aur is useless to me.

they pulled the old bait and switch.

I swear you guys who defend them are all ccp alts.

you disgust me...

What, the remark hit a bit close did it I was being a bit general about some players on the forums who cry and moan over little things that we were full warned about, but if you want to take it as directed at yourself, maybe there's a reason. Lets see, you've spent over $300 on the game but are in argument over $20 of products you still have that have been altered as you had been warned could potentially happen. Yep, honestly, I really can't see why you might think I called you a cheapskate. No idea at all

Well if comparing it to wal-mart you can't buy a laptop keep it around for 6 months see a cheaper and different model comes around then go back to wal-mart and say "I did not use this, so i want my money back"

CCP gives you warning before major updates or changes occur, if you had fused locus grenades sitting around for 3 months and then you see the update and say "hey I did not use these grenades although i had them for 3 months and it is your fault CCP so give me my money back."

If you are going to buy something and not use it for a few month it will change it is not fault of CCP's you are not using them during the time you deemed they were good.

Lol my fanboying? Tell me again how many times ccp has banned me from these very forums for abusing the devs. I have consistently called ccp out for a while now.

You need a reality and or diaper check. Ccp it's only taking away militia bpos for items that are no longer in the game and you will get you r aur back. Buy a booster.

Alright then...

How about the concept of an every changing universe and commitment.

CCP has had this stance for a very long time if you are going to skill into something you are committing to you with all the benefits and consequences. Including the purchases you make, lets take Flaylocks for example they were extremely good so powerful they were killing everything because of the high damage and massive blast radius. So people skilled into these things, CCP came out and said they were going to patch it so it will bring it back down to par with the other sidearms. I do not support reimbursement because if you skilled into it and purchased it as a weapon you should be committed to it. I do not like the idea of people using FOTM weapons getting reimbursed then going off to buy the next FOTM. If you are skilling and purchasing something you should know you are committing to it through the good and bad times.

You mean balancing? That happens. Get over it or I will tell your mother to hide her credit card.

No, what you are attempting to do is promote discord in potential future purchases of Aurum due the fact that you can't handle that your attempt to stockpile OP items backfired on you when CCP changed them. I agree that some more work needs to be done informing people of how it works but to much mollycoddling removes this from being a New Eden game.

What they need to have is to make sure that any changes that will happen will have a minimum of 1 months notice given so players can use what they have without buying more. It's then up to each player whether they want to take the risk of stockpiling.

And another thing, are you that much of a gimp that you used Viktor's FPS skills as a basis for whether his argument was good or not. Any credibility you have is now gone.

Ah I do see, you want AUR items to remain OP.

This is what you get for spending AUR on consumables and BPO's. AUR is really only good for the boosters.

Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills?

Right and because you "think" you have good gun game that makes you an expert in reimbursement policies...

I see nothing wrong with that.

You really are as thick as you come across. Do ya think the majority of people on the board of management for an airline have been or are pilots? How many space rocket designers are astronauts? You seeing it now? Really, you're beyond being a fool!

Yeh, yeh, dance around the subject. Again, what does a person's FPS skills have to do with this policy change arguement, a totally different subject to FPS skills?

Much better than anything SOE has done.

We got awesome weapon spend 5 bucks for it!

Whoops weapon too popular, nerfing it so other guns have a chance.

First they came for the vehicles, and I did not speak out--
Because I did not use vehicles.

Then they came for the Scouts, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Scout.

Then they came for the Logis, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Logi.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Did you read the part in eula where they state that is allowed and you will not get your money back?

yay!!! where is it?

apparently i haven't been paying attention but i feel his argument is just not valid due to us all accepting the user agreement for dust.

So I find this hilarious. All these QQ'ers are crying because they spent IN GAME MONEY on IN GAME items, yet now that CCP is changing or "balancing" them they want their REAL LIFE money back?

Hmm.. Where was this outcry when CCP changed Logi suits that people spent IN GAME MONEY on that were changed and NO RESPEC or offer of reimbursement was offered? Where was the outcry when nerfs for weapons like the MD or FG were done, yet all are major changes in an item that was purchased under good faith of what it was.

Grow Up.

It's called balancing, change, improvement. Don't like what is currently on the market for AUR, then keep it and wait till they add new stuff.

BPO's ruin the economy. They make the game a pay to win game which from the start was what they were trying to avoid. They should remove every last one and tell you all to get over it.

BPO's used the word permanent to describe the fact it does NOT consume with use. NOT that it will not be changed or in this case removed from the game in order to improve the overall gameplay for EVERYONE, not just your QQ'ing cry baby selves.

Hell they are at least refunding in AUR what they currently value the BPO's at which is FAR MORE than what most of the people bought them at.

All this talk about EULA not holding up in court, how about posting proof of it. Otherwise it's heresay and just more BS spouting from the lips of those who are unhappy with a change to their precious suit versus the overall benefit to the wider expanse of the game.

Hell if CCP gave a refund on BPO's because a few forum junkies are unhappy then they should just wipe the server, do a full reset and close up the game because everyone who has ever bought ANYTHING in the game with AUR, cold hard cash or ISK has spent something on an item that has likely been removed, tweaked, nerfed or otherwise changed and therefore due reimbursement.

This has always been since dusts inception. If a new player wants to try out a weapon at a higher grade then let them do it in peace. Stop telling people how to spend their money and freaking everyone out. Those who lost the four aur items got their aur back and then some.

Problem is OP, the time to dispute the terms of a contract is not after you have signed it. Creating your character and loging in are as good as a signature, and unfortunately for you, you either did not read the EULA (I sure as hell didn't), or you saw something that you didn't like yet you signed anyway. There is no way around it, and you are going to have to suck it up and deal with it.

I'm no lawyer by any means, but if CCP is following the contract they had you sign, and you are the one attempting to wiggle your way out of a possibility that was pointed out and explained before you agreed to the contract, technically you are the one in the wrong, and if CCP wanted to be d*cks about it, they could probably come after you for breach of contract.

You told CCP whenever you started playing that you understood they would be fully within their legal rights to do what they are currently doing, and you became a part of a legal binding document. The time to fight this was before you agreed to the EULA, it's to late now man. Sorry.

As I said, the time for your issues was before agreeing to the EULA. You can do whatever you feel is needs to be done, but you don't seem to understand CCP is not a Mom and Pop corner store. They covered their bases, and you did not. They put the EULA in place to protect themselves from issues such as this one. They are a business.

If you don't mind sharing, did you not read the EULA, or did you just figure CCP would never exercise their legal right to screw with their licenced property?

I personally own some Dren BPOs and a Saga LAV BPO. CCP has said those are mine to keep, though I would not be surprised at all if one day they are taken from me, seeing as how the EULA clearly states CCP can do whatever they want with the equipment i've purchased. And of course, if the claim is these changes are for the greater good of the game (a game you liked enough to spend money on), I am all for it.

Anyway good luck or whatever.

Oh i'm the specialest dude on the planet.

Which makes me wonder why I can comprehend basic business structures, yet you seem totally unable to.

And seeing as how you have no dog in this fight, why don't you go ahead and refresh me as to what your argument is.

From what i've pieced together, you don't like the way in which the entity responsible for handling Dust related purchases does business.

Thats fine, no problem.

So if you want to deal with this issue, contact SNEE.

Bam. Simple as that.

But I guess i'm still spouting cryptic legal jargon.

Rebuttle?

I doubt any new players actually check the forums

new players quit after their first stomp...

*facepalm*