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Jak'Saan
Edge Regiment
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Posted - 2013.11.22 16:11:00 -
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You can't deny what is happening.
Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy.
When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling.
Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
874
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:11:00 -
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I'm going to bump this because no one else will. I feel we all know the answer already, though some need to hear it.
"I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
4673
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:14:00 -
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Gave my PS3 to my brother the other day. Waiting for a reason to ask for it back.
Never forget
Level 4 Forum Warrior
King of airborne swine.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:20:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game.
You have summed it up .
In the words of the comic icon Stan Lee , " Nuff Said " .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Justice Prevails
103
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:25:00 -
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The silence is deafening:-(
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
5320
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:44:00 -
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Posting in CCP summons thread #21320194120943
Level 5 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
3849
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:14:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game.
So, you mean like the two new DevBlogs over the past week? Those don't count as communication?
On the topic of "proto-stomping", I've never really found it to be that much of an issue. I just revert back to cheaper fits and keep pushing. I think a lot of the people playing this game are taking it FAR too seriously.
As Pyrex was just saying today, a system in matchmaking to prevent putting squads against randoms would probably clean this issue right up. We still haven't heard much as far as details on the backend of Dust for 1.7, so that might be part of the information they said was still yet to come.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
96
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:27:00 -
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The game dying makes it very difficult to fix the problem that is causing the game to die.
Without new players no matchmaking will ever work due to the fact that we will either gripe about slow matchmaking times or have to deal with protostomps. I have a feeling factional getting friendly fire added is going to drive even more protostompers into pub matches cause of people trolling them and lead to hard times in new eden.
Having tried so hard to bring in friends and watching them quickly stop coming back, frustrated from going 1/20 with 2 assists and sitting at the bottom of the leaderboard every time is why I have stopped trying to bring people in.
For now I am just enjoying the game and hoping it gets fixed before the server gets the power cable pulled.
Until CCP gives up their PC gamer ideology and gets some experts on console gamers the downward spiral will continue.
/doom session go do some merc duties. |
Jak'Saan
Edge Regiment
120
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:33:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:The game dying makes it very difficult to fix the problem that is causing the game to die.
Having tried so hard to bring in friends and watching them quickly stop coming back, frustrated from going 1/20 with 2 assists and sitting at the bottom of the leaderboard every time is why I have stopped trying to bring people in.
Exactly. All except one person I referred stuck with Dust. The others all left. I almost invited a dude the other day, and then I thought hard about what it was I was giving my stamp of approval on.
P.S. The one guy that stuck with Dust (my brother) recently tried to get me to try BF4... |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
Top Men.
215
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:36:00 -
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I truly belive PVE could solve a lot to this game. |
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
98
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:38:00 -
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lordjanuz wrote:I truly belive PVE could solve a lot to this game.
From the rumors I have heard on PVE, I totally agree. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1351
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:52:00 -
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Release without PvE may have been the nail in the coffin.
Cheeseburgers.
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Preacher Death 2
Stoned Avengers
60
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:53:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:lordjanuz wrote:I truly belive PVE could solve a lot to this game. From the rumors I have heard on PVE, I totally agree.
PVE will most likely involve PC. No district no pve. |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
Top Men.
216
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:54:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Release without PvE may have been the nail in the coffin.
Yes I also think that was a big mistake.. |
Mr m4gic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:06:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game.
just wanna say tht this game is still better then battlefield 4 lol my main annoyance is i cant run ppl over anymore i mean who don't enjoying running ppl over. |
Mr m4gic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:09:00 -
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Mr m4gic wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game. just wanna say tht this game is still better then battlefield 4 lol my main annoyance is i cant run ppl over anymore i mean who don't enjoying running ppl over.
those who slate for tht couldn't drive in my opinion, my friends and i used to play matches and see who could run the most ppl over i always 1 where as my friend not mentioning any names (mikeylol ) kept crashing which only shows tht driving is as much of a skill as shooting i might add tht crashing normally always equalled death. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
325
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:25:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:deezy dabest wrote:The game dying makes it very difficult to fix the problem that is causing the game to die.
Having tried so hard to bring in friends and watching them quickly stop coming back, frustrated from going 1/20 with 2 assists and sitting at the bottom of the leaderboard every time is why I have stopped trying to bring people in.
Exactly. All except one person I referred stuck with Dust. The others all left. I almost invited a dude the other day, and then I thought hard about what it was I was giving my stamp of approval on. P.S. The one guy that stuck with Dust (my brother) recently tried to get me to try BF4...
I think this is the crux of several issues. The large chunk of FPS games out there have a lot of transferable skills and don't require the SP commitment in such a comprehensive way that Dust does. This creates serious perception challenges for players that have little to no understanding of the EVE universe and the gameplay consistencies that govern how CCP approaches things.
For what it's worth, this IS a large part of what makes Dust different and is a huge strength but also can be a serious weakness if not carefully monitored.
No really good solutions to this problem. I do think some PVE and a more indepth playable tutorial would help but that won't alleviate protostomping. On that point, it's not even really proto-stomping - the differences in weapon / equipment differences is so marginal that core skills and weapon skills are the deciding factor (as it should be). I'm actually starting to lean to tiericide camp or at least more closely align with the Tech Levels of EVE because of this. |
Jak'Saan
Edge Regiment
122
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:25:00 -
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Check it out: #1, #2.
CCP is currently online and reading the forums... yet no comment. |
OmegaKelevra
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:36:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game.
I have been playing planetside 2 when my notebook don't over heat, but its not good enough for that beat,
Planetside has a good player base and their Devs listen to the base & help them along.
They have plenty of equal weapons countering each other, lots of vehicles, and open world player controlled so no proto stomping
And unlike here you can't buy victory although cash will get you plenty of cool camo's for your weapons,ships,tanks,and armor.
Plus they don't have any disrespectful chump CPM's trash talking its player base which is all more then i can say for this garbage.
I am saving up for a ps4 just gotta wait till i can get one at a reasonable price. I play this game solely because i like playing with humans and CoD has gotten old.
I do agree with yall if you got the machine to do it go planetside 2 & you'll find a welcome fair place to play even as a free player  |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
Top Men.
217
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:59:00 -
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Preacher Death 2 wrote:deezy dabest wrote:lordjanuz wrote:I truly belive PVE could solve a lot to this game. From the rumors I have heard on PVE, I totally agree. PVE will most likely involve PC. No district no pve.
PVE only for DC holders would be a bad ide, its all about embrace new players not exclude. |
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Sixie Cr
Gay Space Dolphins
7
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:03:00 -
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The retention of new players is pretty bad. I've tried to get three of my friends to play and guess how many have played more than 10 matches?
Zero.
I even had a buddy log on with 6 mil of SP to blow, I helped him skill his character and talked it up, he played two games, got pubstomped, orbitaled three times, and hasn't logged back in since.
"Hey want to try playng dust again with me?"
"Nah"
When I can't even get a friend to play with me, i'm constantly running solo and facing off against proto squads who win matches 65-0. I honestly don't have enough free time or SP to play in a PC corp, So for the players like me who just want to log on and play casual for an hour and log off, public matchmaking is the only option and the matches are so consistently one-sided I find my motivation to play dwindling every day.
Why not use squadfinder to play with people?
Pubstomping kills squadfinder; casuals who join squads via squadfinder get frustrated and leave after getting pubstomped, which seems to be happening every other game. Casual squads disband after being pubstomped and no meaningful interactions occur.
I'm not expecting every game to be fair, and I don't mind being beaten by more skilled players but the problem is getting so consistently one-sided that it must be addressed.
Some quick ideas that many other have mentioned:
- Parse matchmaking into tiers. Pub should be more restrictive where faction and up will be less restrictive.
- Limit or disable squads in pub. I would actually be okay with limiting squads to TWO people so that you can still play with a friend.
- Eliminate proto suits from pub. Advanced is fine, and I don't even mind a few proto mods/equipment. Full proto is too OP for pubs. |
Poultryge1st
Da Short Buss
14
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:16:00 -
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Looks like the numbers are stable to me. How many "dust is loose all its players" post does this make?
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pdiddy anfama
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
86
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:24:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game.
Best way to solve proto stomping is flank and take enemies home letter. Wait for them to counter hack use sub-machine gun then swap to AR. proto stomper solved. I use DREN C/1 all the time for this. I may die a lot but the enemies death is more costly. |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
Top Men.
217
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:27:00 -
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Poultryge1st wrote:Looks like the numbers are stable to me. How many "dust is loose all its players" post does this make?
But the question should be, how many could we have been..... To be or not to be that is the question  |
Sixie Cr
Gay Space Dolphins
7
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:28:00 -
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pdiddy anfama wrote:
Best way to solve proto stomping is flank and take enemies home letter. Wait for them to counter hack use sub-machine gun then swap to AR. proto stomper solved. I use DREN C/1 all the time for this. I may die a lot but the enemies death is more costly.
Okay, you can do this with 5, 10, 20, 30 mil SP but a new player cannot. They just die, get frustrated and leave forever for greener pastures. |
pdiddy anfama
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
86
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:37:00 -
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Sixie Cr wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:
Best way to solve proto stomping is flank and take enemies home letter. Wait for them to counter hack use sub-machine gun then swap to AR. proto stomper solved. I use DREN C/1 all the time for this. I may die a lot but the enemies death is more costly.
Okay, you can do this with 5, 10, 20, 30 mil SP but a new player cannot. They just die, get no kills, get frustrated and leave forever for greener pastures.
I have an alt with 800,000 sp that I do it with all the time. Using milt. medic bpo |
Jak'Saan
Edge Regiment
125
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:54:00 -
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Truth is right before I was accepted into closed beta, I bought a couple of games that I never even started... I guess it's time to catch up. |
Jak'Saan
Edge Regiment
125
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Posted - 2013.11.22 21:24:00 -
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Really can't believe how silent they are being on this topic... Speaks volumes in itself. |
Guiltless D667
DIOS EX.
Top Men.
14
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Posted - 2013.11.22 21:25:00 -
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Guiltless D667 wrote:too restrictive,CCP should just have meta lvl restrictions based on the total meta level of each of your mods ,weapon and suit on a fit.
FW and PC would be free of these restrictions(promoting the modes in a way) but pubs will have them,gives a better leveled playing field that doesn't exist right now without being too harsh or cutting too deep into that "if you want a heavy sniper you can do that,you can do anything!" thing they keep on about,you'd maybe able to run a proto suit just under the"you cant deploy in that" level" but the quality of your suit would be that far off from others;However pub stomping would still exist no matter how you slice it, in this lobby game unorganized random strangers will most of the time lose to more organized,familiarized players,it's the underling truth to mulitiplayer games like dust and until CCP confront that dust will suffer to the end.
Need a medic for your heavies in PC? PM me
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Jak'Saan
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
126
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Posted - 2013.11.22 21:49:00 -
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Guiltless D667 wrote:Guiltless D667 wrote:too restrictive,CCP should just have meta lvl restrictions based on the total meta level of each of your mods ,weapon and suit on a fit. FW and PC would be free of these restrictions(promoting the modes in a way) but pubs will have them,gives a better leveled playing field that doesn't exist right now without being too harsh or cutting too deep into that "if you want a heavy sniper you can do that,you can do anything!" thing they keep on about,you'd maybe able to run a proto suit just under the"you cant deploy in that" level" but the quality of your suit would be that far off from others;However pub stomping would still exist no matter how you slice it, in this lobby game unorganized random strangers will most of the time lose to more organized,familiarized players,it's the underlying truth to mulitiplayer games like dust and until CCP confront that dust will suffer to the end.
I'd rather be pub stomped by a squad of adv who can actually play than a sqd of protos relying on a crutch. At least I know I am not going to have to waste all my isk to beat them, I only need to make more friends to get a good squad together. |
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JL3Eleven
1252
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Posted - 2013.11.22 21:52:00 -
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I thought New Eden was hardcore?
LAV Dealer
Dust 514 started from the bottom now we here.
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Jak'Saan
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
126
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:05:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:I thought New Eden was hardcore?
Oh yeah... hardcore. You have an aim bot that kills dudes in 3 shots with your OP AR. Pretty hard core. You are the definition of hardcore. I played AR for the first time since closed beta the other day, no sp into it, no experience with ADS since I am a shotgunner, AND I was using a scout suit... I was top of the charts going 14/3 10/2 etc...
New Eden is so hardcore, all you have to do is hold an AR and the game does the rest for you.
Doing my taxes myself is more hardcore than New Eden. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10511
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:11:00 -
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Let see today hasn't peaked yet at 3.7k yesterday was 3.1k the graph frequency is FAR fatter than it used to be, one of the humps and by the api average we're up 120 sessions this week.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
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Jak'Saan
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
128
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Let see today hasn't peaked yet at 3.7k yesterday was 3.1k the graph frequency is FAR fatter than it used to be, one of the humps and by the api average we're up 120 sessions this week.
Like I said, this month was redeemed by its "Everyone Get your Proto-Stomp On" SP events. But after a month of people blowing their ISK, let's see how vibrant it is, and how much more they can handle.
Dude you are CPM, the forums are yelling "Fix it!!!" and you are basically saying HTFU. You are amazing at your job. |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
357
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:19:00 -
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 surprisingly enough, we've actually gained ~300 players again...
There are no facts, only interpretations.
I am a monument to all your sins
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Scheherazade VII
171
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:21:00 -
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PVE won't be this games saving grace.
Matchmaking from the BEGINNING when player counts were STRONG would have saved this game.
There's only so many times you can spend an entire game behind the redline before you quit.
You still get stomped on playing solo. And you still ONLY come up against randoms whilst playing in a group.
Scrambler rifles and armour-tanking are now out of control.
TTK equals about half a second for starters and 1 second for ADV, 2 seconds for PRO and heavy (stacked).
I'm also going to stop playing. I wonder how many people that makes in this thread alone!
Our patience has worn thing, we saw the potential and we were happy to wait,
but you can only wait for so long, especially with next-gen upon us.
That reminds me who here who is rich wants to buy me a PS4? Share the love?
GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ
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Croned
Dem Durrty Boyz
539
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:34:00 -
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Lol, the OP is just mad because he dislikes using proto in pub matches, yet with his high skill level he only gets matched with protostompers.
Son of a plasma cannon!
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Scheherazade VII
172
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:35:00 -
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I want to see DUST good one day.
I know CCP won't give up and they have to have hearts of gold and wills of STEEL to keep going through the QQ.
To be honest here and to come down-to-earth it's not in CCP's best interests to throw themselves
to the lions.
I wish they would make threads, then read the feedback and not respond unless in the form of another thread.
Commenting on specific issues does more harm than good. Anybody who reads the forums should be able to see that.
As for updates, it's all too behind the scenes.
Keep an eye out for dev blogs though, I reckon there is a lot more in 1.7 than people think.
They just chose to outline the vehicle overhaul as a focal point because it was the cause of mass QQ.
The roadmap is there, the skill tree is there, the game is deep and complex yet shallow and abrasive at the same time.
What I mean by abrasive is, if I keep on rubbing this dirty lamp, it will become clean and a genie will grant me my wishes.
Perhaps a strange descriptive term for a video game.
What with all the different things you can do in DUST it's sad to see most games come down to a crap-shoot
of who's abusing the cheapest of cheap tactics.
One day I'm sure the game and it's weapons and maps and roles will be balanced, but right now there's not
enough to keep me and others hanging on.
GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
129
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:46:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote: surprisingly enough, we've actually gained ~300 players again...
Let's face it... this months SP payouts were pretty huge. Triple SP, 3 top games 3x Warpoints in SP all month, and now Carnage is going to be bloody Carnage.
November was CCP pretty much paying people to keep playing Dust. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
293
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:48:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:PVE won't be this games saving grace.
Matchmaking from the BEGINNING when player counts were STRONG would have saved this game.
There's only so many times you can spend an entire game behind the redline before you quit.
You still get stomped on playing solo. And you still ONLY come up against randoms whilst playing in a group.
Scrambler rifles and armour-tanking are now out of control.
TTK equals about half a second for starters and 1 second for ADV, 2 seconds for PRO and heavy (stacked).
I'm also going to stop playing. I wonder how many people that makes in this thread alone!
Our patience has worn thing, we saw the potential and we were happy to wait,
but you can only wait for so long, especially with next-gen upon us.
That reminds me who here who is rich wants to buy me a PS4? Share the love?
Being that I was guilty of being one of those proto-stompers, "get a leg to stand on" is probably a sufficient answer to my post here.
But I'm not sure it is Proto-stomping that is essentially ruining the game. No matter if the weapons were completely balanced across the board and we all had the same amount of health, it would still amount to the 1337 vs the N00B, as every FPS has.
No, I think the matter of PvE is touching on the right solution. The simple matter of the fact is N00Bs, as much as anyone else who plays Dust, have no other options. You play Pub Ambush, Skirmish or Dom, or GTFO. PC is for the organised Proto-stompers, anyone else who has a crack at that can also GTFO.
So what do the solo, or small group, lower end SP players get to do? Sweet FA. The only recommendation I can make to the Merc starting out is join a MASSIVE Corp. But even then, at this stage of the game, don't expect to get a go in Planetary Conquest.
Where are the Corp Battles promised?
Where are the Drone Battles?
Where are the Markets?
Where are the Officer variants for EVERY weapon in the game?
Where are the maps that are meant to blow our mind?
Where are the new Game Modes?
Where is the one SOLITARY comment on Dust 514 being on PS4?
Seriously, I think the OP is on to something. CCP is focused on fixing bugs (which is good as it was a bug that pushed me over to leave this game), however there is nothing new to make me see it worthwhile coming back. Proto-stomping lone wolves in pubs is just sad to do nowadays, and PC requires time away from your RL for little to no ACTUAL reward.
CCP, give us a comment and give us SOMETHING to look forward to.
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
129
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:20:00 -
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The Loathing wrote:
CCP, give us a comment and give us SOMETHING to look forward to.
Honestly... we are all reduced to just this statement. Just say something! Address it! For crying out loud! |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.11.22 23:57:00 -
[42] - Quote
Jak'Saan wrote:Really can't believe how silent they are being on this topic... Speaks volumes in itself.
Really what do you expect ???? The same about the vehicles . Talk about respec's and you would have people talking for days . Talk about scouts or logi suits or nerfing items and you wouldn't get the people to stop with random comments .
The problems are that : 1* Very few people who play this game even care . 2 : Most of those who do care are just tired of feeling like their voice doesn't matter and it's not even herd . 3 : CCP is going to do what they want to do ANYWAY and most of the time it's the EXACT opposite of what you are speaking about and asking for . 4 : Most are just waiting for that , " I'm just fed up " moment then they know that they wont even care about the forums , updates , reinstalling or this game in general AT ALL . 5 : They feel like it's a NO WIN fight anyway . By the time something is done , a lot of the things that brought them to Dust and helped them to " fall in love " with the game will be gone and replaced with a " watered down " version of what that core ideal or items and things were , it won't even matter anymore .
Let's be real .... how many times has this company admitted that they made a mistake and placed the mistake back to fix and solve that problem . They will " quick fix " whatever that " mistake " was and add their OWN take on whatever it was and to be honest , it won't be the same .
It seems like the " powers that be " have a problem with that , meaning the constant pe&!s measuring to show " who's boss " and " who's game this is " is really sickening . We all know who OWN's the game and who develop it's content . Nothing that could save this game would work because you can't even get them to admit that " there is a problem " in the first place and even so " they " will administer " their " form of triage .
When you are asked for feedback and you feel like your being ignored , it's only a matter of time before those who were asked begin to shut down . That's what your looking at now Jak'Saan . It's sad .
DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!!!!
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Joel II X
AHPA
203
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:18:00 -
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I left for about 2 weeks and came back for the November events. I'll be checking out update 1.7 and check out the new changes. If nothing peaks my interest, I'll try to finish Ni no Kuni again. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
129
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:21:00 -
[44] - Quote
Joel II X wrote:I left for about 2 weeks and came back for the November events. I'll be checking out update 1.7 and check out the new changes. If nothing peaks my interest, I'll try to finish Ni no Kuni again.
Exactly my point. CCP is pretty much bribing people to come back. As soon as the wealth runs out, so will the Dust devotees. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
130
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Posted - 2013.11.23 00:48:00 -
[45] - Quote
Still hanging on for some kind of CCP response. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
130
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Posted - 2013.11.23 02:12:00 -
[46] - Quote
Holy hostile forums today! CCP you could alleviate so much of this hostility with just a few simple answers. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
167
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Posted - 2013.11.23 02:48:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game. So, you mean like the two new DevBlogs over the past week? Those don't count as communication? On the topic of "proto-stomping", I've never really found it to be that much of an issue. I just revert back to cheaper fits and keep pushing. I think a lot of the people playing this game are taking it FAR too seriously. As Pyrex was just saying today, a system in matchmaking to prevent putting squads against randoms would probably clean this issue right up. We still haven't heard much as far as details on the backend of Dust for 1.7, so that might be part of the information they said was still yet to come.
If you dont think its an issue your not paying attention, and though Im cool with pyrex and subscribe to him on youtube, lets be real, hes part of the protostomp core, hes part of the problem so his opinion is somewhat biased dont you think? I mean hell go find a video where hes not in proto gear. If you want to pub stomp in proto thats your right, but if you dont realize how unhealthy it is to the new player base your simply misunderstanding both the reality and gravity of the situation. All im asking for is a server with a meta cap. If you still want to use proto go ahead. |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
270
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Posted - 2013.11.23 02:48:00 -
[48] - Quote
this thread is too legit to get a dev response.
Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
132
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:35:00 -
[49] - Quote
TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:this thread is too legit to get a dev response.
you may be right... |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
293
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:29:00 -
[50] - Quote
I remember the hope I had for the game Brink. Splash damage were gonna deliver an open world, new universe, ground-breaking gunplay, and a customization system that would put Mass Effect to shame.
While I met some of the coolest gamers ever thru that game, the execution of Brink was abysmal. And while we held on for many months for something that would change the game entirely, it never came.
Then Dust 514 came along, and hope started anew. THIS time the Developer was also the Publisher! And now they could turn this game into ANYTHING the players dream it could be.
1 year, 7 months later, and so far the dreams belong in a pipe. Again, I've met some of the coolest gamers I'm ever going to meet, but again I haven't found the IP that is gonna rock people's world for years to come.
Honestly, the only way gamers are ACTUALLY gonna get the game they dream of is by finding some good coders and designers, and starting a Kickstarter Project that gains the hearts and minds of the public. Star Citizen may be the first to deliver what many of us seek, but who knows.
CCP have nailed their "dream job" in Eve, Dust is/was an experiment, one that gained incredible loyalty from it's players, yet never delivered what everyone had hoped for. I'm still gonna be watching these forums for a sign of something awesome, but CCP won't be receiving any more Merc Pack cash from me any time soon. |
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
661
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:56:00 -
[51] - Quote
Why do people keep linking a chart that shows relatively stable player counts as evidence that it is dying?
There was a peak on launch, as there is with every game. Numbers dropped off fairly rapidly then there was a plateau around 4k for a while, then another drop and now we are stable at around 3.2k. PCU might actually be climbing very slightly in the last month or so.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
222
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:06:00 -
[52] - Quote
Well they have two options:
1) say nothing, hope playerbase sticks around, or that the bleed-out is low.
2) say that they are working on it (i.e. soon)
#1 would be the option they would choose if they either have no idea how to fix it, or they have no intention of doing so. This would mean either it won't be fixed or it will be a long time. They are willing to take the chance on loosing players.
#2 would be the option they would take if they actually saw it as a problem and had a direction to take.
I guess that leaves us to decide which option it appears that they have taken, and act accordingly.
I do think it is hilarious how not only has this not been mentioned, but also CCP has stopped trying to tweak the battle academy. You would think by now that CCP would realize, with such a short battle academy, that pubs are the new player experience.
an easy fix to Matchmaking
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
807
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:22:00 -
[53] - Quote
In the end we want new players and the game to grow. We atleast want mature players that understand the game. Hopefully they find a solution. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
328
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:48:00 -
[54] - Quote
Sixie Cr wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:
Best way to solve proto stomping is flank and take enemies home letter. Wait for them to counter hack use sub-machine gun then swap to AR. proto stomper solved. I use DREN C/1 all the time for this. I may die a lot but the enemies death is more costly.
Okay, you can do this with 5, 10, 20, 30 mil SP but a new player cannot. They just die, get no kills, get frustrated and leave forever for greener pastures.
Sixie - shoot me a note in Dust and I'll get you hooked up. You can apply for OSG (we like recruiting newer players that are fighting to get better) and if you are a casual player that's fine we have plenty of those and we have a pretty serious FW and PC division if you become interested. We run a serious training regime for new players and can give you a lot of information on how to optimize your SP and play style if you want.
I was in a very similar position as you were. I played for about a month and half and was pretty tired of getting my a$$ handed to me. I was in a match against OSG, got a gg mail after the match and checked out the corp. Having allies and consistent connections is a pretty serious indicator of whether you stick around or not.
Whether you are interested in joining a corp or not offer stands to get in touch and I'll see if I can help you out. |
Thorgen Ra'Koldor
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:46:00 -
[55] - Quote
R F Gyro wrote:Why do people keep linking a chart that shows relatively stable player counts as evidence that it is dying?
There was a peak on launch, as there is with every game. Numbers dropped off fairly rapidly then there was a plateau around 4k for a while, then another drop and now we are stable at around 3.2k. PCU might actually be climbing very slightly in the last month or so.
F2P Player number graphs start off low and increase gradually until it plateau's and then gradually declines and depending on how good the game developer is they add new content that keeps the vets coming back to play the game whilst keeping a constant stream of intermediate and new players .. bought and paid for games plateau at launch and in the 1st 2 months until it begins to decline as more and more people complete the game/get bored of it ... and then sometimes a new version of the game is introduced and the cycle repeats (think COD/Battlefield)
The fact is the player counts are getting steadily lower .. having half as many people online playing the game as their were on release is a serious issue for a F2P game .. the player numbers should be higher as more and more peopel have played the game and stuck around ..the fact is DUST has one of the poorest new player experiences of any F2P game .. and it simply cannot keep hold of new players ...
Therefore the current cycle for DUST is one of new players not staying and playing the game and vets getting bored of the game .. with no new players to replace the vets who get bored or the people who decide to go play other games then the player numbers decrease ..
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
133
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:30:00 -
[56] - Quote
Thorgen Ra'Koldor wrote:
The fact is the player counts are getting steadily lower .. having half as many people online playing the game as their were on release is a serious issue for a F2P game .. the player numbers should be higher as more and more peopel have played the game and stuck around ..the fact is DUST has one of the poorest new player experiences of any F2P game .. and it simply cannot keep hold of new players ...
Therefore the current cycle for DUST is one of new players not staying and playing the game and vets getting bored of the game .. with no new players to replace the vets who get bored or the people who decide to go play other games then the player numbers decrease ..
I find it interesting, the proto stompers say "numbers look steady to me" and they continue to proto-stomp. They don't even look at new player retention, because to a proto-stomper, their biggest cheapest thrill is owning noobs. You are right, as vets leave, the noobs getting owned by the protostomp won't stick around to fill in the gaps. right now we have 2000-3000 consistently active players... that's nothing... I've been to churches with higher attendance (4000) on a weekly basis. If people start leaving and no one fills in, you will notice it very quickly.
with so many great games out there right now, and the HUGE curve it takes to get enough sp to level the proto playing field, proto stompers will be the end of this game. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
135
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:29:00 -
[57] - Quote
One more new player lost. Congrats on the excellent job of retaining vets and loosing new players CCP.
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:36:00 -
[58] - Quote
I'd say one of your points relates to matchmaking and balance in general, which visibly needs tweaking. For the 2nd part - the new player experience, this can only be served by PvE content, as it's the only way you can present a tutorial in a structured, controlled manner. I harp on about this in other threads when people talk about the "new player experience". Anything, and I mean anything apart from PvE structured tutorials where you initiate the basics of the game to new players is a stop-gap measure because it is simply not possible to implement structured scenarios in a fluid, unpredictable multiplayer battle.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1369
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:07:00 -
[59] - Quote
Ouch, below 3k online right now...
The simple fact that CCP is not answering probably says more than an answer filled with false claims...
I'm sad that this game is failing. It had so much potential...
"Please don't"
GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
137
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:09:00 -
[60] - Quote
Flix Keptick wrote:Ouch, below 3k online right now...
The simple fact that CCP is not answering probably says more than an answer filled with false claims...
I'm sad that this game is failing. It had so much potential...
Me too... as much raging as I am giving it, it had great moments and I still get the itch to pick it up again, it's just that I don't because I know it's not the same game anymore. It's like a bad breakup, lol.
Fact is, I've played other games that were crappy, and then I put them down and forget them. Dust is different. It was great, could have been greater still, but it went in a bad direction. |
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1369
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:10:00 -
[61] - Quote
Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Well they have two options:
1) say nothing, hope playerbase sticks around, or that the bleed-out is low.
2) say that they are working on it (i.e. soon)
#1 would be the option they would choose if they either have no idea how to fix it, or they have no intention of doing so. This would mean either it won't be fixed or it will be a long time. They are willing to take the chance on loosing players.
#2 would be the option they would take if they actually saw it as a problem and had a direction to take.
I guess that leaves us to decide which option it appears that they have taken, and act accordingly.
I do think it is hilarious how not only has this not been mentioned, but also CCP has stopped trying to tweak the battle academy. You would think by now that CCP would realize, with such a short battle academy, that pubs are the new player experience.
They have said #2 but are doing #1
"Please don't"
GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
2001
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:17:00 -
[62] - Quote
Poultryge1st wrote:Looks like the numbers are stable to me. How many "dust is losing all its players" posts does this make?
This, it looks like the numbers are flat for a while now.
Noobs need to join a decent corp
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
138
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:23:00 -
[63] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:Poultryge1st wrote:Looks like the numbers are stable to me. How many "dust is losing all its players" posts does this make? This, it looks like the numbers are flat for a while now. Noobs need to join a decent corp
Lol, math == your friend. It will really help you in life, or will at least make you seem smarter. for example here is one for you:
On week one, Dust 514 has an active player base of 3000 and 800 new players join. At the beginning of Week 2 Dust 514 has an active player base of 3000. How many players quit Dust in week 1?
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
Zero-Day
110
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:27:00 -
[64] - Quote
Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game.
For the last time people all CCP has to do is set people with close lifetime SP in the same matches, for example a person with 10 million SP will only face people with up to 12 million SP & as low as 8 million SP, that way veterans are fighting veterans & noobs are fighting noobs....
Also people haven't totally left & if they have it's mostly due to the PS4 & then they're back on PS3 to Dust 514 in about 3 weeks max.... |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
139
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:31:00 -
[65] - Quote
Vinsarrow wrote:
For the last time people all CCP has to do is set people with close lifetime SP in the same matches, for example a person with 10 million SP will only face people with up to 12 million SP & as low as 8 million SP, that way veterans are fighting veterans & noobs are fighting noobs....
Also people haven't totally left & if they have it's mostly due to the PS4 & then they're back on PS3 to Dust 514 in about 3 weeks max....
This is ridiculous. I have 30 mil SP and I refuse to be forced to run Proto because I can. I run Proto in PC and when I want to cost stompers money. But it is an expensive endeavor which I do not want to commit to for every match. Putting me with groups of people of the same SP level but not eliminating proto stomps means you are telling players, "Have fun while you can because eventually you will be in proto land and then you will lose all your ISK if you don't have a backer corp." All you are doing is delaying the amount of time before they get sick of protostomping. |
IraqiFriendshipExplosive
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:35:00 -
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There are many problems with dust.
1. It released on an end of life console right towards the end of its expected life. Granted people will continue to play but it was a dumb move I think.
2. Applying MMO style features in a fast paced fps game - Where people have all manner of different hitpoints etc...
3. PC matches, touted as one of the better features of the game - well the 5 or more matches I played in on a different character were ALWAYS unplayable because of low frame rate and ridiculous lag.
Not only that, a lot of people agree the game was in a better state of health back in chromosome. Actually if dust was still in chrome, albeit an upgraded advanced version, I believe more people would be playing.
Regardless time has come and its time to say goodbye. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
139
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:43:00 -
[67] - Quote
IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote:
2. Applying MMO style features in a fast paced fps game - Where people have all manner of different hitpoints etc...
This was the whole reason I picked up Dust. It's the whole idea that makes Dust unique and amazing. Until, of course, they put more emphasis on fast pace and less on MMO. Which is now the reason I have put it down.
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
139
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:22:00 -
[68] - Quote
Jak'Saan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Poultryge1st wrote:Looks like the numbers are stable to me. How many "dust is losing all its players" posts does this make? This, it looks like the numbers are flat for a while now. Noobs need to join a decent corp Lol, math == your friend. It will really help you in life, or will at least make you seem smarter. for example here is one for you: On week one, Dust 514 has an active player base of 3000 and 800 new players join. At the beginning of Week 2 Dust 514 has an active player base of 3000. How many players quit Dust in week 1?
No Answer? Interesting... I suppose you still think you are right though right? |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
140
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:23:00 -
[69] - Quote
To all the Iron Wolf fans: Still think things are stable this month? Check this out.
And this was a "good" month... |
DudE Just Die
Red Star.
EoN.
53
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:34:00 -
[70] - Quote
Jak'Saan wrote:To all the Iron Wolf fans: Still think things are stable this month? Check this out. And this was a "good" month...
 YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CCP IS TO STOP USING THE SITE AND ANY RELATED SERVICES, AND TO CANCEL AND TERMINATE ALL ACCOUNTS REGISTERED TO YOU."
Terms of use
https://dust514.com/terms-of-use/
Don't let the door hit you on the way out |
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
140
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:38:00 -
[71] - Quote
DudE Just Die wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:To all the Iron Wolf fans: Still think things are stable this month? Check this out. And this was a "good" month... YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CCP IS TO STOP USING THE SITE AND ANY RELATED SERVICES, AND TO CANCEL AND TERMINATE ALL ACCOUNTS REGISTERED TO YOU."Terms of use https://dust514.com/terms-of-use/Don't let the door hit you on the way out
Lol. Not a fan of numbers which disprove illusions huh? It's ok, you aren't the first dumbass in history. |
Robocop Junior
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
385
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:14:00 -
[72] - Quote
What draws most people in? The SP system.
What drives most people away? The SP system.
Why won't the game ever achieve balance? The SP system.
It's a gift and a curse. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
145
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:46:00 -
[73] - Quote
Robocop Junior wrote:What draws most people in? The SP system.
What drives most people away? The SP system.
Why won't the game ever achieve balance? The SP system.
It's a gift and a curse.
The SP system doesn't drive people away, getting repeatedly owned by proto weapons and suits drives people away.
The SP system is the best thing Dust has going for it. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
151
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Posted - 2013.11.25 21:57:00 -
[74] - Quote
How long till we get an answer? |
Audrey2
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:19:00 -
[75] - Quote
Jak'Saan wrote:How long till we get an answer?
it seems no matter what the issue,
be it,
heavies...
scouts...
new content....
PVE....
BPO removal.....
NPE.....
matchmaking.....
protostomping.....
bpo removals....
the only sound we hear from ccp is that of silence...
it is the sound of failure.
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Slick Saan
FotM 514
0
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:56:00 -
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To all, a friendly warning... If ever you see a troll post from one of our beloved CPM, do not troll their troll post. Apparently it is a violation of the terms and conditions............................................
Instead, do the right thing, report it as trolling. I also can't tell you why you shouldn't troll it, since discussion surrounding it would be a violation of the T&C. You are free to guess what happened though...
Here is one such CPM troll post that you should not troll in return. |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.28 15:56:00 -
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Many of my best friends have afk because the ridiculous aim assist.
I have work hard in my corp for half a year, as a player must continue with KBM against aim bot, I feel tired and hopeless.
Well, I wanna AFK too, really.
Though I cant. |
Slick Saan
FotM 514
0
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Posted - 2013.11.28 20:35:00 -
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Cyncia Gaess wrote:Many of my best friends have afk because the ridiculous aim assist.
I have work hard in my corp for half a year, as a player must continue with KBM against aim bot, I feel tired and hopeless.
Well, I wanna AFK too, really.
Though I cant.
Why can't you AFK?
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Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
1
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:12:00 -
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Slick Saan wrote:Cyncia Gaess wrote:Many of my best friends have afk because the ridiculous aim assist.
I have work hard in my corp for half a year, as a player must continue with KBM against aim bot, I feel tired and hopeless.
Well, I wanna AFK too, really.
Though I cant. Why can't you AFK?
Because I am the CEO of my Corp, I have spent countless efforts on it.
And I have responsibility to lead, who still have hope, still love this game, and the newcomer through this darkest days.
So I decided to stick to it, and look for countermeasures.
Aimbot can kill you even without a accurately aim, so I found if I accumulation HP above 900, I can win in a 1v1 close fire with aimbot for 1 time. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
78
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:49:00 -
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You have my +1 and my sympathy. I'm really hoping this game gets back on track at some point. Hopefully soon. |
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Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
1
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Posted - 2013.11.29 02:22:00 -
[81] - Quote
Let me think, well if,
Aim assist and hit detection to standard suits for all controller and KBM players,
Only aim assist to advanced suits for all too,
No assist for any proto suits.
Then no need to change the assist system and everyone get happy.
I believe this would work. |
Tectonic Fusion
629
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Posted - 2013.11.29 02:56:00 -
[82] - Quote
+1
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
690
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Posted - 2013.11.29 06:18:00 -
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this is a F2P game. It's meant to be cheaply made and have zero customer service support. It's meant to get a small trickle of money that amounts to recovering the small cost of production and making a small profit. Don't expect anything special from a F2P game - is not it obvious?
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
690
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Posted - 2013.11.29 06:22:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game. For the last time people all CCP has to do is set people with close lifetime SP in the same matches, for example a person with 10 million SP will only face people with up to 12 million SP & as low as 8 million SP, that way veterans are fighting veterans & noobs are fighting noobs.... Also people haven't totally left & if they have it's mostly due to the PS4 & then they're back on PS3 to Dust 514 in about 3 weeks max....
Yes, but... but... What if you are in Niyan San? Does it mean that you run all that proto gear for nothing? Does it mean that now you gotta fight players of equal SP? What's the point of running proto gear then if you are gonna run into fair opposition and lose a lot of equipment? Might as well run militia. CCP does not want ppl running militia. They want ppl to but that 70% off AUR gear. Are you following my math so far?
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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