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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1369
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:10:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Well they have two options:
1) say nothing, hope playerbase sticks around, or that the bleed-out is low.
2) say that they are working on it (i.e. soon)
#1 would be the option they would choose if they either have no idea how to fix it, or they have no intention of doing so. This would mean either it won't be fixed or it will be a long time. They are willing to take the chance on loosing players.
#2 would be the option they would take if they actually saw it as a problem and had a direction to take.
I guess that leaves us to decide which option it appears that they have taken, and act accordingly.
I do think it is hilarious how not only has this not been mentioned, but also CCP has stopped trying to tweak the battle academy. You would think by now that CCP would realize, with such a short battle academy, that pubs are the new player experience. They have said #2 but are doing #1
"Please don't"
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
2001
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:17:00 -
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Poultryge1st wrote:Looks like the numbers are stable to me. How many "dust is losing all its players" posts does this make?
This, it looks like the numbers are flat for a while now.
Noobs need to join a decent corp
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
138
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:23:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Poultryge1st wrote:Looks like the numbers are stable to me. How many "dust is losing all its players" posts does this make? This, it looks like the numbers are flat for a while now. Noobs need to join a decent corp
Lol, math == your friend. It will really help you in life, or will at least make you seem smarter. for example here is one for you:
On week one, Dust 514 has an active player base of 3000 and 800 new players join. At the beginning of Week 2 Dust 514 has an active player base of 3000. How many players quit Dust in week 1?
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
110
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:27:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game.
For the last time people all CCP has to do is set people with close lifetime SP in the same matches, for example a person with 10 million SP will only face people with up to 12 million SP & as low as 8 million SP, that way veterans are fighting veterans & noobs are fighting noobs....
Also people haven't totally left & if they have it's mostly due to the PS4 & then they're back on PS3 to Dust 514 in about 3 weeks max.... |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
139
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:31:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote: For the last time people all CCP has to do is set people with close lifetime SP in the same matches, for example a person with 10 million SP will only face people with up to 12 million SP & as low as 8 million SP, that way veterans are fighting veterans & noobs are fighting noobs....
Also people haven't totally left & if they have it's mostly due to the PS4 & then they're back on PS3 to Dust 514 in about 3 weeks max....
This is ridiculous. I have 30 mil SP and I refuse to be forced to run Proto because I can. I run Proto in PC and when I want to cost stompers money. But it is an expensive endeavor which I do not want to commit to for every match. Putting me with groups of people of the same SP level but not eliminating proto stomps means you are telling players, "Have fun while you can because eventually you will be in proto land and then you will lose all your ISK if you don't have a backer corp." All you are doing is delaying the amount of time before they get sick of protostomping. |
IraqiFriendshipExplosive
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:35:00 -
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There are many problems with dust.
1. It released on an end of life console right towards the end of its expected life. Granted people will continue to play but it was a dumb move I think.
2. Applying MMO style features in a fast paced fps game - Where people have all manner of different hitpoints etc...
3. PC matches, touted as one of the better features of the game - well the 5 or more matches I played in on a different character were ALWAYS unplayable because of low frame rate and ridiculous lag.
Not only that, a lot of people agree the game was in a better state of health back in chromosome. Actually if dust was still in chrome, albeit an upgraded advanced version, I believe more people would be playing.
Regardless time has come and its time to say goodbye. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
139
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:43:00 -
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IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote: 2. Applying MMO style features in a fast paced fps game - Where people have all manner of different hitpoints etc...
This was the whole reason I picked up Dust. It's the whole idea that makes Dust unique and amazing. Until, of course, they put more emphasis on fast pace and less on MMO. Which is now the reason I have put it down.
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
139
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:22:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Poultryge1st wrote:Looks like the numbers are stable to me. How many "dust is losing all its players" posts does this make? This, it looks like the numbers are flat for a while now. Noobs need to join a decent corp Lol, math == your friend. It will really help you in life, or will at least make you seem smarter. for example here is one for you: On week one, Dust 514 has an active player base of 3000 and 800 new players join. At the beginning of Week 2 Dust 514 has an active player base of 3000. How many players quit Dust in week 1?
No Answer? Interesting... I suppose you still think you are right though right? |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
140
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:23:00 -
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To all the Iron Wolf fans: Still think things are stable this month? Check this out.
And this was a "good" month... |
DudE Just Die
Red Star. EoN.
53
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:34:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:To all the Iron Wolf fans: Still think things are stable this month? Check this out. And this was a "good" month...
YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CCP IS TO STOP USING THE SITE AND ANY RELATED SERVICES, AND TO CANCEL AND TERMINATE ALL ACCOUNTS REGISTERED TO YOU."
Terms of use https://dust514.com/terms-of-use/
Don't let the door hit you on the way out |
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
140
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:38:00 -
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DudE Just Die wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:To all the Iron Wolf fans: Still think things are stable this month? Check this out. And this was a "good" month... YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CCP IS TO STOP USING THE SITE AND ANY RELATED SERVICES, AND TO CANCEL AND TERMINATE ALL ACCOUNTS REGISTERED TO YOU."Terms of use https://dust514.com/terms-of-use/Don't let the door hit you on the way out
Lol. Not a fan of numbers which disprove illusions huh? It's ok, you aren't the first dumbass in history. |
Robocop Junior
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
385
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:14:00 -
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What draws most people in? The SP system. What drives most people away? The SP system. Why won't the game ever achieve balance? The SP system.
It's a gift and a curse. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
145
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:46:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:What draws most people in? The SP system. What drives most people away? The SP system. Why won't the game ever achieve balance? The SP system.
It's a gift and a curse.
The SP system doesn't drive people away, getting repeatedly owned by proto weapons and suits drives people away.
The SP system is the best thing Dust has going for it. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
151
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Posted - 2013.11.25 21:57:00 -
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How long till we get an answer? |
Audrey2
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.11.26 01:19:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:How long till we get an answer?
it seems no matter what the issue,
be it,
heavies...
scouts...
new content....
PVE....
BPO removal.....
NPE.....
matchmaking.....
protostomping.....
bpo removals....
the only sound we hear from ccp is that of silence...
it is the sound of failure.
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Slick Saan
FotM 514
0
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:56:00 -
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To all, a friendly warning... If ever you see a troll post from one of our beloved CPM, do not troll their troll post. Apparently it is a violation of the terms and conditions............................................
Instead, do the right thing, report it as trolling. I also can't tell you why you shouldn't troll it, since discussion surrounding it would be a violation of the T&C. You are free to guess what happened though...
Here is one such CPM troll post that you should not troll in return. |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
1
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Posted - 2013.11.28 15:56:00 -
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Many of my best friends have afk because the ridiculous aim assist. I have work hard in my corp for half a year, as a player must continue with KBM against aim bot, I feel tired and hopeless. Well, I wanna AFK too, really.
Though I cant. |
Slick Saan
FotM 514
0
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Posted - 2013.11.28 20:35:00 -
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Cyncia Gaess wrote:Many of my best friends have afk because the ridiculous aim assist. I have work hard in my corp for half a year, as a player must continue with KBM against aim bot, I feel tired and hopeless. Well, I wanna AFK too, really.
Though I cant.
Why can't you AFK?
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Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
1
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:12:00 -
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Slick Saan wrote:Cyncia Gaess wrote:Many of my best friends have afk because the ridiculous aim assist. I have work hard in my corp for half a year, as a player must continue with KBM against aim bot, I feel tired and hopeless. Well, I wanna AFK too, really.
Though I cant. Why can't you AFK?
Because I am the CEO of my Corp, I have spent countless efforts on it. And I have responsibility to lead, who still have hope, still love this game, and the newcomer through this darkest days. So I decided to stick to it, and look for countermeasures.
Aimbot can kill you even without a accurately aim, so I found if I accumulation HP above 900, I can win in a 1v1 close fire with aimbot for 1 time. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
78
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:49:00 -
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You have my +1 and my sympathy. I'm really hoping this game gets back on track at some point. Hopefully soon. |
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Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
1
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Posted - 2013.11.29 02:22:00 -
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Let me think, well if, Aim assist and hit detection to standard suits for all controller and KBM players, Only aim assist to advanced suits for all too, No assist for any proto suits.
Then no need to change the assist system and everyone get happy. I believe this would work. |
Tectonic Fusion
629
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Posted - 2013.11.29 02:56:00 -
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+1
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
690
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Posted - 2013.11.29 06:18:00 -
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this is a F2P game. It's meant to be cheaply made and have zero customer service support. It's meant to get a small trickle of money that amounts to recovering the small cost of production and making a small profit. Don't expect anything special from a F2P game - is not it obvious?
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
690
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Posted - 2013.11.29 06:22:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:You can't deny what is happening.Everyone is leaving, and probably a big part is because of proto stomps. Face facts, as QQ as it is for those unwilling to stomp back or to waste ISK or who can't run proto yet, your player base is dying. As New Eden as it is to say HTFU, your bottom line will be better served by keeping vets and encouraging new players to stay past the first match out of academy. When will you address proto stomping. Say anything. Stop leaving us hanging. If you don't care, then tell us so we can move on and leave the forums like we left the game. If you realize it is a problem, there are lots of great ideas that your user base, intent on keeping dust around and fun, have contributed. For example. Maybe it could at least get the ball rolling. Sad day for me last night, I keep wanting to give Dust another chance, but last night I finally did the big delete to save me from wasting my time anymore. Will be checking forums for release notes, but as a closed beta tester, Dust was supposed to be my last ps3 game. For the last time people all CCP has to do is set people with close lifetime SP in the same matches, for example a person with 10 million SP will only face people with up to 12 million SP & as low as 8 million SP, that way veterans are fighting veterans & noobs are fighting noobs.... Also people haven't totally left & if they have it's mostly due to the PS4 & then they're back on PS3 to Dust 514 in about 3 weeks max....
Yes, but... but... What if you are in Niyan San? Does it mean that you run all that proto gear for nothing? Does it mean that now you gotta fight players of equal SP? What's the point of running proto gear then if you are gonna run into fair opposition and lose a lot of equipment? Might as well run militia. CCP does not want ppl running militia. They want ppl to but that 70% off AUR gear. Are you following my math so far?
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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