Have played EVE and as for how you deem what is best for you doesnGÇÖt mean it is what works best for me.

Like the choices I made when Uprising was released, I specifically chose the suit that I run for the purpose of being a frontline support, i.e., Amarr Logi. It had the best combination of load out, flexibility, and also restrictions that I felt that I could work within and use to my advantage. As for the specificity of roles for the ships in EVE and then doing an across the board tomato to tomato comparison, well there isnGÇÖt one.

There are some lines of commonality between DUST and EVE, granted. Yet those are only really superficial. When you look under the hood, DUST and EVE are quite different. The Similarity I draw from is the fact that CCP doesnGÇÖt limit what you can put on your ship, such as they shouldnGÇÖt in regards to Dropsuits. But that is the predominate solution presented by the people crying about how supposedly OP the logiGÇÖs are.

The fact of the matter is that CCP usually identifies role specificity through the bonuses. Could those see a change to designate this idea that everyone is running around with of being a GÇ£true logi?GÇ¥ Sure. But, what I havenGÇÖt seen is a determination of what a GÇ£true logiGÇ¥ is by CCP. What I have seen is a bunch of people that have obviously failed in creating effective solutions to battlefield conditions, they have gotten mercGÇÖd for it, and now they are crying foul. They are crying foul because of their own inability to be adaptive.

Personally HTFU. Until I see a thread from the DEVGÇÖs that states their intention to adjust and define the logistics role, I will continue to be a walking tool box of equipment and death for my team, my squad, and MY CORP. If you donGÇÖt like it, GTFOI (i.e., get the fk over it).

We are humans. One of the reasons we have developed technology and in the premise of this game have been able to develop this GÇ£clone techGÇ¥ is because of our ability to be adaptive problem solvers. Those that have failed to do so have fallen to dust and are lost in the annuals of history. I for one, at least in the respects of this community REFUSE to do so.

Hence the reason why I am so adamantly against the QQ in this thread and every other thread that is bashing the adaptive application of a Logi suit.

Grow a spine, some imagination, and produce a solution that works for you.

As of right now this is still a sandbox game that is based around choices. Just because you donGÇÖt know how to make adaptive and effective choices doesnGÇÖt mean you get to crap on mine, or my ability to be an operative force for my squad, team, and corp.

And before everyone goes around screaming for the nerf hammer to be laid down, why donGÇÖt we show some patience and wait for the majority of gear to rear its head.

@XxGhazbaranxX

I hereby put forth that logis only be allowed to fit reps leashes and militia weapons with which to ***** on killmails.

That'll show them what Eve logis are really like.....

What's really funny is that outside of the gallente assault, all the other assaults actually do have viable and important advantages to their logi brethren that make them better. You don't find a suit that strafes better with more hp than the mini assault. The caldari is super effective because of it's shields bonus, except to scramblers T_T Amarr are the lazer () and scrambler masters and make the scrambler OP imo, they are suuuuuper useful. All of them have better move speed that the logi aside from the amarr which is slower than the mini logi obviously.

All you need to do to fix logi's is give assaults a 2nd equip and let them keep the same cpu/pg and give scouts a bit more cpu/pg and a 2nd equip as well.

Also you need to decrease TTK so that the logi's inability to use a sidearm is relevant and plays a role in it's destruction vs other classes vs right now where you stack 3 damage mods and kill them without it no issue.

There is no thing as a GÇ£true logi.GÇ¥ Get over this dispossessive attitude that is based upon stereotyping and pejorative biases that do nothing for this game. I can use my suit how ever I want and the support that I give as a logistics officer is functional for the goals on the battlefield.

Why do you feel the necessity to impose your reality upon me? You are no better than a religious zealot. Get over yourself, your arrogance, your ego, and narcism.

Another example of STFU +10 needed.

This game of crying about who or what constitutes a GÇ£true logiGÇ¥ is ANTI-EVE and ANTI-DUST. HTFU and learn how to be a creative problem solver in combat.

This is a stupid idea, shot down multiple times in the past. Compact hives in every slot and BAM, no-one gives a damn. All it restricts are people attempting to make interesting suits.

Here is how to fix the issue.

Give assaults and scouts their second equipment slot back and a majority of the assault logis will return to the assault suit, including myself.

You sir are trying far to hard for a like.
Also a true logi in regards to eve is essentially armor and shield repping, nothing else.

Here is how to fix the issue.

Give assaults and scouts their second equipment slot back and a majority of the assault logis will return to the assault suit, including myself.

Give it to scouts to give themselves an advantage over Assaults. Assaults don't need more than 1 EQ slot.

CCP is gonna start swinging that Nerf hammer, and your suit might just get the blunt of it.

Support this idea that I'm quoting


"The only way to stop the Logi from getting a Nerf is to make it so they have a invalid fitting if they DONT fill their equipment slots, and make it so dmg mods have a higher stacking penalty and draw more CPU/PG then other suits.

True Logis do not get a direct Nerf(since they fill their equipment slots first anyway, and can still fit a dmg mod.)

And assault Logis go away and start asking for respecs."

You DONT need a Nerf, your doing your job. Its the jerkbars using the suit with 3-5 dmg mods and armour plates that are going to ruin your suit!

Give it to scouts to give themselves an advantage over Assaults. Assaults don't need more than 1 EQ slot.

Down with light weapon logis

Up with logi weapon logis

The problem is that CCP will look at the situation and the thought pattern will probably go like this:

People are using the Logistics suit as an Assault Suit what should we do?
Nerf the Logistics Suit.

Instead of going, why are people using the Logistics suits over the Assault suits?
Slot Layout among other things.
Maybe the assault suits simply need to be more effective then?
Potentially, maybe give them something like oh idk, damage output increase for the assault skill instead of something that makes no sense like shield recharge?
Would be a good place to start.

There is no thing as a GÇ£true logi.GÇ¥ Get over this dispossessive attitude that is based upon stereotyping and pejorative biases that do nothing for this game. I can use my suit how ever I want and the support that I give as a logistics officer is functional for the goals on the battlefield.

Why do you feel the necessity to impose your reality upon me? You are no better than a religious zealot. Get over yourself, your arrogance, your ego, and narcism.

Another example of STFU +10 needed.

This game of crying about who or what constitutes a GÇ£true logiGÇ¥ is ANTI-EVE and ANTI-DUST. HTFU and learn how to be a creative problem solver in combat.

Sweet, another brown shirt has arrived.

CCP is gonna start swinging that Nerf hammer, and your suit might just get the blunt of it.

Support this idea that I'm quoting


"The only way to stop the Logi from getting a Nerf is to make it so they have a invalid fitting if they DONT fill their equipment slots, and make it so dmg mods have a higher stacking penalty and draw more CPU/PG then other suits.

True Logis do not get a direct Nerf(since they fill their equipment slots first anyway, and can still fit a dmg mod.)

And assault Logis go away and start asking for respecs."

You DONT need a Nerf, your doing your job. Its the jerkbars using the suit with 3-5 dmg mods and armour plates that are going to ruin your suit!

HI

WHAT IS THE LOWEST CPU/PG ITEM I CAN USE TO FILL MY EQ SLOTS WITH???

Assault logis already fill their spare slots with compact hives. This idea will make actual logis like my speed-hacker less viable.

if you lower the cpu and pg, but give a reduction to fitting costs of equipment people are no longer able to simply abandon equipment in favor of putting on as many damage and armor modules as possible.

Logi's need Dropsuit specific Equipment fitting Bonus, that allow equipment to be fit on their suit almost at no cost. (EVE example Logistic's ship have 99% CPU reduction)

They also need an equipment efficacy Bonus... So no assault can out supply ammo or heal the same as a logi. Uplink efficacy would even be helpful allowing a Logi placed uplink to spawn a full team adverse to an assault's that can spawn 6-8 people.

The Suit's High and low slot's need major reduction in the amount of slot's available. Also the CPU and PG reduced drastically as equipment is near nothing to fit. Also giving the ability to work out with little variables the max slayer/HP tank a logi can in theory make with modules.

In order to balance the slot reduction and keep Logi's alive on battlefield they will need a 25% base suit health boost. allowing CCP to directly control the health point variable.. with the health base of the suit.. more then the max proto modules that can be fitted.