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Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 15	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:50:00 - [1] - Quote Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 743	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:56:00 - [2] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. ar and scrambler rifles getting a buff..its not going to get better
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1038	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:03:00 - [3] - Quote Logibro here :D But my job gets really tough when I can't see everyone's health bar. What's the point of being able to heal 2 people at once when you don't know who to heal? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Blaze Ashra Ametat Security Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:04:00 - [4] - Quote If I'm grinding for my next ADS, have set up uplinks and hives near objectives and have at least 3 people who move together on my team I'll do front line logi. .
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 15	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:05:00 - [5] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. ar and scrambler rifles getting a buff..its not going to get better I know and this is making me think twice about moving forward with CCP.. and it's sad when most of the community cries about their "OP" weapons get nerfed.. most of the time it's better for the game itself. People are just being selfish and that as well is hurting the game.. Everyone needs to come to a compromise to really see progress in this game. (Although I've heard it progressed far from the time of close beta)
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 15	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:07:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: Logibro here :D But my job gets really tough when I can't see everyone's health bar. What's the point of being able to heal 2 people at once when you don't know who to heal? Lol that's the least of my concerns I can barely heal anyone before an Assultlogi or any AR.. well ANYTHING with stacked damage mods tear up my suit and then still have enough ammo to kill the rest of my teammates xD
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 1096	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:08:00 - [7] - Quote recently started cross training into Amarr Logi and i am focusing on support when i use it. Use my Assault suit for Assault. For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 473	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:08:00 - [8] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. Don't die logibros, you are needed. Is it necessary to implement an active breeding program to ensure the survival of the species? I am apparently not the only fool
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 449	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:09:00 - [9] - Quote I'm changing my class, from assault to logistics because I'm seeing less and less logibro's everyday A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós ! Hey CCP, give me PvE!
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 16	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:09:00 - [10] - Quote Blaze Ashra wrote: If I'm grinding for my next ADS, have set up uplinks and hives near objectives and have at least 3 people who move together on my team I'll do front line logi. . I have my ADS and I move with the whole team and still doesn't seem to help the fact I get mowed down by almost anything but a PC lol

Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 16	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:10:00 - [11] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: recently started cross training into Amarr Logi and i am focusing on support when i use it. Use my Assault suit for Assault. We need more people like you o7
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 712	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:10:00 - [12] - Quote As soon as CCP makes it so I can use the Repair Tool on myself (point it at my foot or something) I won't need a Logi anymore
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 16	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:12:00 - [13] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: I'm changing my class, from assault to logistics because I'm seeing less and less logibro's everyday Yes it's sad.. I've stopped running my logi fits because of the constant insta deaths I get... I'm not saying I should be invincible to everything but my suit can't take much even with 2 enchanced armor plates.
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 16	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:14:00 - [14] - Quote 8213 wrote: As soon as CCP makes it so I can use the Repair Tool on myself (point it at my foot or something) I won't need a Logi anymore That's kinda sad.. You are trying to get rid of us begone demon! People like you are the bane of Logibros existance!
Tectonic Fusion 565	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:18:00 - [15] - Quote Atiim wrote: Logibro here :D But my job gets really tough when I can't see everyone's health bar. What's the point of being able to heal 2 people at once when you don't know who to heal? Aim your normal weapon at them, then switch to the rep tool. But I guess you can't see the health through walls... Don't hate on assault logis. We are just less effective assaults. I am both. If I can't repair people, spam anymore uplinks, give people more ammo, or revive anyone, I'm kicking ass on the battlefield. Problem? Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1043	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:21:00 - [16] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Atiim wrote: Logibro here :D But my job gets really tough when I can't see everyone's health bar. What's the point of being able to heal 2 people at once when you don't know who to heal? Aim your normal weapon at them, then switch to the rep tool. But I guess you can't see the health through walls... Don't hate on assault logis. We are just less effective assaults. I am both. If I can't repair people, spam anymore uplinks, give people more ammo, or revive anyone, I'm kicking ass on the battlefield. Problem? The only problem I have is the excessive amount of line spaces you used. Anyways, I'm not hating on Assault Logistics. In use this playstyle sometimes as well. And I know you are supposed to aim at them to see their health bars. It's just a major inconvenience . Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 773	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:31:00 - [17] - Quote Atiim wrote: Logibro here :D But my job gets really tough when I can't see everyone's health bar. What's the point of being able to heal 2 people at once when you don't know who to heal? Is this really a problem for people? Maybe I'm lucky but when I aim at people with my rep tool Iee the bars at least 90% of the time. Rude people can go fuck themselves. Oh shit! Can I really say fuck in here?
The Bankerz Expert Intervention Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:31:00 - [18] - Quote 8213 wrote: As soon as CCP makes it so I can use the Repair Tool on myself (point it at my foot or something) I won't need a Logi anymore compact, k17/d, and allotek nanohives will solve most of your logi needs <------ Blaze Ashra's alt for testing purposes and frequent isk donator. Stupid auto switch lol.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1043	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:33:00 - [19] - Quote 8213 wrote: As soon as CCP makes it so I can use the Repair Tool on myself (point it at my foot or something) I won't need a Logi anymore Aren't you a heavy? They don't have equipment slots you know Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 20	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:38:00 - [20] - Quote I normally don't have an issue with Assultlogi but for them to drop you quicker than an Assult suit is the issue.. I find myself hiding from ANY and ALL other Logi on the opposing side which is sad.(In my eyes) But at the same time if I'm not running Logi and my Assult suit I look toward Logi suits for any form of reps and what do you think I get..? Nadda but they seem to run a Duvolle with complex damage mods stacked.. I understand it's a possible role but please for the love of Logidom or LogiGod (Your preference)leave it to the damn Assults!

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1053	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:39:00 - [21] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Atiim wrote: Logibro here :D But my job gets really tough when I can't see everyone's health bar. What's the point of being able to heal 2 people at once when you don't know who to heal? Is this really a problem for people? Maybe I'm lucky but when I aim at people with my rep tool Iee the bars at least 90% of the time. Your either really lucky, or I am having the worst luck in history Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 20	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:27:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Atiim wrote: Logibro here :D But my job gets really tough when I can't see everyone's health bar. What's the point of being able to heal 2 people at once when you don't know who to heal? Is this really a problem for people? Maybe I'm lucky but when I aim at people with my rep tool Iee the bars at least 90% of the time. Your either really lucky, or I am having the worst luck in history Just you I guess lol
Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 371	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:53:00 - [23] - Quote The logibro's are almost extinct, something needs to be done about the logi suits, please ccp help save this endangered role which will in return make me have a reason to use my assault. When your playing dust and your frustrated...if all else fails...turn off the ps3 works every time.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 255	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:56:00 - [24] - Quote I still don't get why health bars havent been hotfixed the week after they were removed. Seriously.
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 21	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:56:00 - [25] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: The logibro's are almost extinct, something needs to be done about the logi suits, please ccp help save this endangered role which will in return make me have a reason to use my assault. You make me sad
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 21	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:57:00 - [26] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: I still don't get why health bars havent been hotfixed the week after they were removed. Seriously. It's CCP.. 'nough said
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1655	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:02:00 - [27] - Quote I use to logi all the time.....now nobody appreciates a good logi so I stick wi my starter fits and basic assault fits when I go into battle.....unless my squad needs a logi "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle I'll take your Iskies
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 111	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:07:00 - [28] - Quote Logistics suit users are plenty common, but true Logibros are rare. What needs to be done is bringing up the Assault/Scout/Heavy suits to being on par with what people get out of Logistics, while tweaking the role bonuses for all of them such that the Logistics suit actually get rewarded for being supportive while the others get relevant bonuses for their intended roles (ie, Assault could get damage; Scout can keep the dampening; Heavies getting damage reduction or something, for example.) I'm a Logibro and have been since closed beta and will be forever more. I dabble in scouting and use various weapons (I major in AR, have since I started but also have skills in the SCR, MD, SCP, SMG, Swarm, will have some in CR and RR when they're released) but I will always be a Logibro at heart.
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 28	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:10:00 - [29] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: I use to logi all the time.....now nobody appreciates a good logi so I stick wi my starter fits and basic assault fits when I go into battle.....unless my squad needs a logi I know this needs to be changed I mean Logibros need to be on the field supporting full time!
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5116	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:11:00 - [30] - Quote I've stopped running nanite injectors because people just get terminated straight out. I barely ever see people needing triage anymore. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.

Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 28	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:16:00 - [31] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Logistics suit users are plenty common, but true Logibros are rare. What needs to be done is bringing up the Assault/Scout/Heavy suits to being on par with what people get out of Logistics, while tweaking the role bonuses for all of them such that the Logistics suit actually get rewarded for being supportive while the others get relevant bonuses for their intended roles (ie, Assault could get damage; Scout can keep the dampening; Heavies getting damage reduction or something, for example.) I'm a Logibro and have been since closed beta and will be forever more. I dabble in scouting and use various weapons (I major in AR, have since I started but also have skills in the SCR, MD, SCP, SMG, Swarm, will have some in CR and RR when they're released) but I will always be a Logibro at heart. I dabble in almost everything but more so Heavy and Logibroing but Assaults are fine people just don't know how to utilize the suit.. I use Assaults from time to time and do just fine.(Not bragging or don't even think it deserves to be called bragging but I normally go 20+/9 or so) The suit itself is fine Scouts can keep their dampening (From watching my friend's gameplay) Heavies do need something more but I think it's more so the weapons for heavies and not the suit but explosive dmg reduction could help.
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 28	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:19:00 - [32] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I've stopped running nanite injectors because people just get terminated straight out. I barely ever see people needing triage anymore. I guess you are unlucky I run Nanites and Rep tools and get a good use out of both.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 453	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:48:00 - [33] - Quote Been one since the start all those months ago. Knew I was gonna be the closest thing to a supporter/healer (like I am in most co-op games), so I named this guy what I did. It's really weird in game today. I see all these YELLOW CA-, I mean, suits and I never see them repping and when I go down there's never an indicator that there is someone with a heally stick around. I've seen them lay down a bunch of D-uplinks and Hives in one area though. Damn Imperials! Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 20	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:57:00 - [34] - Quote True logibro for life!
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 22	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:59:00 - [35] - Quote True logibro for life!
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1354	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:59:00 - [36] - Quote The problem right now is people die too fast for logi to be useful in a support role. I'm a pure support logi, and over the last 3 weeks I've gotten jack all for WP from support actions. I've stopped logging in and I don't plan to again until they've rebalanced things so that there's a reason for me to run something other than a GEK with damage mods and nothing else. Reps are meaningless when people die in the blink of an eye. Nanohives? When was the last time you ran out of ammo? You get more on the next spawn. Needles...well, people usually get overkilled and can't be revived. The only useful pieces of gear now are uplinks and scanners, and you really can't do game changing moves with the uplinks anymore since you can't sneak your way across the map to drop them in useful spots that will swing the battle. Until people start living long enough to need a logi nearby, logi will be useless.
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 339	Posted - 2013.11.17 01:00:00 - [37] - Quote I <3 logibros! Livin' large!
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 339	Posted - 2013.11.17 01:10:00 - [38] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: The problem right now is people die too fast for logi to be useful in a support role. I'm a pure support logi, and over the last 3 weeks I've gotten jack all for WP from support actions. I've stopped logging in and I don't plan to again until they've rebalanced things so that there's a reason for me to run something other than a GEK with damage mods and nothing else. Reps are meaningless when people die in the blink of an eye. Nanohives? When was the last time you ran out of ammo? You get more on the next spawn. Needles...well, people usually get overkilled and can't be revived. The only useful pieces of gear now are uplinks and scanners, and you really can't do game changing moves with the uplinks anymore since you can't sneak your way across the map to drop them in useful spots that will swing the battle. Until people start living long enough to need a logi nearby, logi will be useless. My logibros always earn atleast 2-3 times my own wp, that means roughly 2000-4000 wp. I think that they are pretty goddamn useful even if they go 0-3 KD. Its my fault i cant protect them better. Low TTK? Get a better rep tool or heavy for that sake, and i run out of ammo all the time BTW, what do i see? an ocean of droplinks. Livin' large!
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 473	Posted - 2013.11.17 01:13:00 - [39] - Quote Part time logibro here *-Minmatar Scout-* *-Minmatar Logistics-* *-Mass Driver and Sniper Rifle Expert-*
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2847	Posted - 2013.11.17 01:32:00 - [40] - Quote The fact that I'm more afraid of an ADV Logi over a prototype assault is a huge issue.

IO Unbound The Generals EoN. 38	Posted - 2013.11.17 01:40:00 - [41] - Quote Full time logibro. o7 Its a thankless job most of the time. The only time people really notice you is when you revive them under fire. (**** happens?) Also, its an isk intensive role. My adv pub suit is 70k, and proto is in the 250k range. Unless I'm flanking with uplinks, I'm in the fire every match, and I'm squishy as hell. In a hard fight I'll go something like 3 and 10 with 3700 wps, but whats 700k if it alows my team to go beast mode? o7 logibro4life Have you hugged your logibro today?
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz 492	Posted - 2013.11.17 01:45:00 - [42] - Quote Been a Logi with an Assault MD since Beta. My cheapest Logi suit costs 60k standard cost 160k and proto 250k. I'm doing my job, why should I get nerfed because Assaults are complaining about me being able to kill them?
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 391	Posted - 2013.11.17 01:49:00 - [43] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. Former assault logi reporting. I have seen the light of the dedicated R3 Logi, the problem I have is that I am Gallente. Plainly I can't keep up with the dancers out there. I know that you must dance or die, but my amazing core repper doesn't do **** if you dance further than 10m from me. Another problem I have is that HMG heavies are going extinct and HMG heavies are my bread and butter.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 113	Posted - 2013.11.17 02:00:00 - [44] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: The fact that I'm more afraid of an ADV Logi over a prototype assault is a huge issue. Um...ok...? Assaults still stack damage mods. Assaults still run the same weapons. The HP that Logis can stack over Assaults is pretty small and the issue remains that one of the biggest problems with Assaults/Heavies is that their role bonus is utter shite.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2847	Posted - 2013.11.17 02:00:00 - [45] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: I know that you must dance or die... To modern console fps players using cover is a foreign term This mentality is the problem with Modern FPS players nowadays. Gotta run out into the open and tap yolo, swag XxSnipazxX X-treame 420. Of course, I come from games like Arma, Armored Core, Star-craft and EVE so maybe I'm a little bit biased in thinking players should be smart and not run out in the open all the time, but that's just me. I'm still not sure if this game is trying to be CoD in space or not, if it is, I'm going to drop it likes it's hot.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 959	Posted - 2013.11.17 02:38:00 - [46] - Quote One of my many roles is Mini Logi. I logi and I run a Dren AR for my equipment takes most of my CPU/PG as it should. I drop uplinks, nanohives, and I will rep you. Do not eat the yellow snow
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1354	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:35:00 - [47] - Quote No rep tool can repair more damage than the weakest weapon in this game deals, and people get vaporized the moment anything shoots at them. So what is the point of repair tools again? Only time you might use them is if you've got a heavy in a city with lots of cover around, or if you're part of a squad that makes it to one of the cheap high ground camping spots. Which, incidentally, is the only place my nanohives ever get used anymore. The design for those relies on extended battles in a single area for them to be useful, but with the low TTK you don't get the epic drawn out fights anymore. I used to get 1500 to 3000 WP from logi work per game. The hives I throw out don't get used now, the people I'm with almost never need repairs and the only thing that does see any action are my uplinks. The logistics role has essentially been made pointless by the recent changes. You might as well run a squad of assault dropsuits with a few uplinks, a scanner and a couple hives for those exceedingly rare situations where ammo is needed.
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 41	Posted - 2013.11.17 05:02:00 - [48] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. Former assault logi reporting. I have seen the light of the dedicated R3 Logi, the problem I have is that I am Gallente. Plainly I can't keep up with the dancers out there. I know that you must dance or die, but my amazing core repper doesn't do **** if you dance further than 10m from me. Another problem I have is that HMG heavies are going extinct and HMG heavies are my bread and butter. I am a heavy as well if you need a heavy let me know. :D
Cosgar ParagonX 7819	Posted - 2013.11.17 05:09:00 - [49] - Quote Cross-training assault because I'm tired of throwing my ISK down the drain for a thankless job and a bunch of complaints to nerf my suit when my equipment loadout alone could pay for a prototype assault fitting. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 41	Posted - 2013.11.17 05:10:00 - [50] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: I <3 logibros! We <3 you too

Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 41	Posted - 2013.11.17 05:16:00 - [51] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Cross-training assault because I'm tired of throwing my ISK down the drain for a thankless job and a bunch of complaints to nerf my suit when my equipment loadout alone could pay for a prototype assault fitting. If so then guess you aren't a Logibro just a Logistics.
Cosgar ParagonX 7820	Posted - 2013.11.17 05:36:00 - [52] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Cross-training assault because I'm tired of throwing my ISK down the drain for a thankless job and a bunch of complaints to nerf my suit when my equipment loadout alone could pay for a prototype assault fitting. If so then guess you aren't a Logibro just a Logistics. I love being a logibro and play support oriented classes in every game that provides them but some days putting your life on the line to rep that heavy, pick up that assault with 80% armor, toss that RE under a tank, put that uplink behind enemy lines, scan that objective, or drop that triage hive in a chokepoint isn't worth it when all you get is a bunch of hate mail for running a "noob suit" or see a bunch of butt hurt ******** armed with pitchforks and torches on the forums. I've taken the extra effort of dumping SP into sidearms "just in case" CCP does the unthinkable to my favorite class in the game so I can still play it.. Still think I'm logistics instead of a logibro? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 402	Posted - 2013.11.17 06:15:00 - [53] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: I know that you must dance or die... To modern console fps players using cover is a foreign term This mentality is the problem with Modern FPS players nowadays. Gotta run out into the open and tap yolo, swag XxSnipazxX X-treame 420. Of course, I come from games like Arma, Armored Core, Star-craft and EVE so maybe I'm a little bit biased in thinking players should be smart and not run out in the open all the time, but that's just me. I'm still not sure if this game is trying to be CoD in space or not, if it is, I'm going to drop it likes it's hot. I am totally naming my next alt that. Oh, and I'm a Logibro, I think that's what I'm supposed to mention, lol. Amarr logi to proto, Caldari to adv, Minnie std. (Holding off on gallente until I get some core stuff and a few weapons maxed.) Templar'd for her pleasure Amarr victor!
R F Gyro Clones 4u 618	Posted - 2013.11.17 11:32:00 - [54] - Quote I'm still logi, but it seems to be getting harder to make a difference. I think improvements to hit detection have contributed a fair bit to this. If you are getting hit you probably die, so less use for reppers after the fight. With better ability to hit at range I need a much larger "clear zone" around a body to revive safely. With people getting killed more often they don't run out of ammo so much, so less need for hives. Uplinks and scanners are still very useful. In fact they are now almost essential in many game modes, so lots of people have them. No need for dedicated logi there. Shadowing a heavy used to be a good option: they needed lots of ammo and could survive a toe-to-toe and therefore need reps afterwards. But most of the heavies I knew are now running other suits. Not being able to easily see who needs reps when there's a mass of blue & green dots milling around in front of you is a real pain in the butt. You could be at 10% armour and walk right in front of me and there's a reasonable chance I wouldn't spot that you need reps. On top of that my rep tool seems to have trouble locking on recently. I'll keep at it, but its getting easier to think "stuff it, I'll just shoot", even with my lousy gun game. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Deacon Obvious S.e.V.e.N. 21	Posted - 2013.11.17 12:10:00 - [55] - Quote Logibro since the game went release, so the Beta Times and Crow-Ma-Zome are more legendary than real to me. So much of being able to be a good support player is being in a squad that will use what you can bring. If you have 2-3 Slayers who are willing to keep good grouping and methodically work on scanned targets, it's heaven. You spend your entire time with either a scanner or repair tool in hand, and toss down hives as needed. There's a lot of finesse I'm learning about using the repair tool. I think it goes hand in hand with active scanning. When you're focused on keeping people alive, getting that repper on them BEFORE they start taking fire is the biggest difference maker. That's why the scanner can help you predict ahead who you should have your repper locked onto. There are a ton of moment-by-moment calculations that give me that hunch of whether I should have my gun or repair tool out. Even little things like the level of the squad mate's shield can mean the difference in a quick engagement.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1826	Posted - 2013.11.17 13:36:00 - [56] - Quote For months I had been running my Minmatar Logistics suits for infiltration work. With good speed, a low profile and maxed hacking skills I could sneak in and hack all the things and be able to kill a bit along the way. Since the repair tools were buffed I've been working a lot more as a Logibro. For my own survival I run the Six Kin Triage, even on my normal advanced suit. I can stay behind cover and have enough reach to keep people alive for longer. As an independent contractor on the field it sometimes takes a bit to find people that need my assistance and are also not complete idiots that stand in the open and expect me to fix them faster than they suck up bullets. TTK is too short. The CPM knows it and they say CCP knows it but neither have come up with a decent plan to fix it yet. However, smart players can use their brains to survive longer. Having a good Logibro at your back that isn't waving a giant 'shoot me first' sign is a good start. AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 178	Posted - 2013.11.17 13:47:00 - [57] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: I'm changing my class, from assault to logistics because I'm seeing less and less logibro's everyday Yes it's sad.. I've stopped running my logi fits because of the constant insta deaths I get... I'm not saying I should be invincible to everything but my suit can't take much even with 2 enchanced armor plates. Try and run the lai dai rep tool with 30 meters distance. That will help keep you alive and be healing your team keeping your distance from the frontline. You need a serious tank to run the core focus repper and survive being close to the frontline. The Lai dai is expensive but really worth it, if I am not running scout I will be running logi support. I will do my slaying as scout and team support as logi, only having standard AR equipped saving all PG and CPU for the support tools.
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 43	Posted - 2013.11.18 02:58:00 - [58] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Cross-training assault because I'm tired of throwing my ISK down the drain for a thankless job and a bunch of complaints to nerf my suit when my equipment loadout alone could pay for a prototype assault fitting. If so then guess you aren't a Logibro just a Logistics. I love being a logibro and play support oriented classes in every game that provides them but some days putting your life on the line to rep that heavy, pick up that assault with 80% armor, toss that RE under a tank, put that uplink behind enemy lines, scan that objective, or drop that triage hive in a chokepoint isn't worth it when all you get is a bunch of hate mail for running a "noob suit" or see a bunch of butt hurt ******** armed with pitchforks and torches on the forums. I've taken the extra effort of dumping SP into sidearms "just in case" CCP does the unthinkable to my favorite class in the game so I can still play it.. Still think I'm logistics instead of a logibro? You may run the Logibro fitting and whatnot but that attitude man.. honestly I get nothing but thanks to those I rep and revive. Even the opponents from time to time tell me I was doing a good job and giving them a challge. If people want to be butthurt about it tell them to try and run what we run... Logibros cost a lot to maintain the team up as well as our own survivability. WE as Logibro waste our hard earned ISK to keep people alive. If they still want to cry about it I normally make a note of their name and won't heal them if they are on my side. Now if I get hate mail for that either they have to apologize and understand how hard we Logibros work to do our job. I myself will be specing into sidearms if CCP do what we think they might do but that won't help the Isukone Sub is just as dangerous as an AR if used right. And if you want to be a true Logibro continue repping, reviving, resupplying, reinforce and rally your team.
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 43	Posted - 2013.11.18 02:59:00 - [59] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: I'm changing my class, from assault to logistics because I'm seeing less and less logibro's everyday Yes it's sad.. I've stopped running my logi fits because of the constant insta deaths I get... I'm not saying I should be invincible to everything but my suit can't take much even with 2 enchanced armor plates. Try and run the lai dai rep tool with 30 meters distance. That will help keep you alive and be healing your team keeping your distance from the frontline. You need a serious tank to run the core focus repper and survive being close to the frontline. The Lai dai is expensive but really worth it, if I am not running scout I will be running logi support. I will do my slaying as scout and team support as logi, only having standard AR equipped saving all PG and CPU for the support tools. I would but I have found the flux repper to be quite useful as well as less expensive
Cosgar ParagonX 7890	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:07:00 - [60] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Cross-training assault because I'm tired of throwing my ISK down the drain for a thankless job and a bunch of complaints to nerf my suit when my equipment loadout alone could pay for a prototype assault fitting. If so then guess you aren't a Logibro just a Logistics. I love being a logibro and play support oriented classes in every game that provides them but some days putting your life on the line to rep that heavy, pick up that assault with 80% armor, toss that RE under a tank, put that uplink behind enemy lines, scan that objective, or drop that triage hive in a chokepoint isn't worth it when all you get is a bunch of hate mail for running a "noob suit" or see a bunch of butt hurt ****** armed with pitchforks and torches on the forums. I've taken the extra effort of dumping SP into sidearms "just in case" CCP does the unthinkable to my favorite class in the game so I can still play it.. Still think I'm logistics instead of a logibro? You may run the Logibro fitting and whatnot but that attitude man.. honestly I get nothing but thanks to those I rep and revive. Even the opponents from time to time tell me I was doing a good job and giving them a challge. If people want to be butthurt about it tell them to try and run what we run... Logibros cost a lot to maintain the team up as well as our own survivability. WE as Logibro waste our hard earned ISK to keep people alive. If they still want to cry about it I normally make a note of their name and won't heal them if they are on my side. Now if I get hate mail for that either they have to apologize and understand how hard we Logibros work to do our job. I myself will be specing into sidearms if CCP do what we think they might do but that won't help the Isukone Sub is just as dangerous as an AR if used right. And if you want to be a true Logibro continue repping, reviving, resupplying, reinforce and rally your team. Kind of hard to have any enthusiasm when you see ** like this on a weekly basis. I do my logibro duty because it's fun and I'm for the team more than myself. But idiocy like that can take a toll on a man. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1246	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:18:00 - [61] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: I'm changing my class, from assault to logistics because I'm seeing less and less logibro's everyday That's because to randoms, being a medic means using their Medic Starter Fit with the terrible needle. I'm a tanker and the only PRO equipment I don't have is scanners. Injectors, rep tools, nanohives and uplinks are all PRO. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1246	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:20:00 - [62] - Quote The Bankerz wrote: 8213 wrote: As soon as CCP makes it so I can use the Repair Tool on myself (point it at my foot or something) I won't need a Logi anymore compact, k17/d, and allotek nanohives will solve most of your logi needs <------ Blaze Ashra's alt for testing purposes and frequent isk donator. Stupid auto switch lol. The ultimate in repping hives would be those three, plus a Wiyrkomi triage hive. A great logi suit with 4 slots would be a rep tool, scanner, probably the Allotek hives, and uplinks. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1113	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:43:00 - [63] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: The logibro's are almost extinct, something needs to be done about the logi suits, please ccp help save this endangered role which will in return make me have a reason to use my assault. Exactly Maybe then you'll have more logis running hives so you can play dogeball with your Core nades D: Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 44	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:47:00 - [64] - Quote Atiim wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: The logibro's are almost extinct, something needs to be done about the logi suits, please ccp help save this endangered role which will in return make me have a reason to use my assault. Exactly Maybe then you'll have more logis running hives so you can play dogeball with your Core nades D: That nade spam needs to be fixed. D:
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 350	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:06:00 - [65] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Cross-training assault because I'm tired of throwing my ISK down the drain for a thankless job and a bunch of complaints to nerf my suit when my equipment loadout alone could pay for a prototype assault fitting. If so then guess you aren't a Logibro just a Logistics. I love being a logibro and play support oriented classes in every game that provides them but some days putting your life on the line to rep that heavy, pick up that assault with 80% armor, toss that RE under a tank, put that uplink behind enemy lines, scan that objective, or drop that triage hive in a chokepoint isn't worth it when all you get is a bunch of hate mail for running a "noob suit" or see a bunch of butt hurt ****** armed with pitchforks and torches on the forums. I've taken the extra effort of dumping SP into sidearms "just in case" CCP does the unthinkable to my favorite class in the game so I can still play it.. Still think I'm logistics instead of a logibro? You may run the Logibro fitting and whatnot but that attitude man.. honestly I get nothing but thanks to those I rep and revive. Even the opponents from time to time tell me I was doing a good job and giving them a challge. If people want to be butthurt about it tell them to try and run what we run... Logibros cost a lot to maintain the team up as well as our own survivability. WE as Logibro waste our hard earned ISK to keep people alive. If they still want to cry about it I normally make a note of their name and won't heal them if they are on my side. Now if I get hate mail for that either they have to apologize and understand how hard we Logibros work to do our job. I myself will be specing into sidearms if CCP do what we think they might do but that won't help the Isukone Sub is just as dangerous as an AR if used right. And if you want to be a true Logibro continue repping, reviving, resupplying, reinforce and rally your team. Kind of hard to have any enthusiasm when you see ** like this on a weekly basis. I do my logibro duty because it's fun and I'm for the team more than myself. But idiocy like that can take a toll on a man. I don't like that Logi bro named Logi bro, he said my HMG was fine. Livin' large!
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 45	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:13:00 - [66] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Cross-training assault because I'm tired of throwing my ISK down the drain for a thankless job and a bunch of complaints to nerf my suit when my equipment loadout alone could pay for a prototype assault fitting. If so then guess you aren't a Logibro just a Logistics. I love being a logibro and play support oriented classes in every game that provides them but some days putting your life on the line to rep that heavy, pick up that assault with 80% armor, toss that RE under a tank, put that uplink behind enemy lines, scan that objective, or drop that triage hive in a chokepoint isn't worth it when all you get is a bunch of hate mail for running a "noob suit" or see a bunch of butt hurt ****** armed with pitchforks and torches on the forums. I've taken the extra effort of dumping SP into sidearms "just in case" CCP does the unthinkable to my favorite class in the game so I can still play it.. Still think I'm logistics instead of a logibro? You may run the Logibro fitting and whatnot but that attitude man.. honestly I get nothing but thanks to those I rep and revive. Even the opponents from time to time tell me I was doing a good job and giving them a challge. If people want to be butthurt about it tell them to try and run what we run... Logibros cost a lot to maintain the team up as well as our own survivability. WE as Logibro waste our hard earned ISK to keep people alive. If they still want to cry about it I normally make a note of their name and won't heal them if they are on my side. Now if I get hate mail for that either they have to apologize and understand how hard we Logibros work to do our job. I myself will be specing into sidearms if CCP do what we think they might do but that won't help the Isukone Sub is just as dangerous as an AR if used right. And if you want to be a true Logibro continue repping, reviving, resupplying, reinforce and rally your team. Kind of hard to have any enthusiasm when you see ** like this on a weekly basis. I do my logibro duty because it's fun and I'm for the team more than myself. But idiocy like that can take a toll on a man. I understand but when things like that are about I normally ignore it
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 45	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:15:00 - [67] - Quote Logi bro has some valid points but the HMG is not fine and needs working on.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 395	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:18:00 - [68] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. They are just changing the way logi-broing is done. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 45	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:20:00 - [69] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. They are just changing the way logi-broing is done. Anything new other than the rep tool being near useless unless ADV or pro lv?
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 188	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:29:00 - [70] - Quote I started out always carrying needles and rep tool. Then I learned that everyone loves shields, so I dropped the tool for uplinks. I dropped needles for active scanning because who ******* cares if some dudes die when I can show my squad EVERYONE ON THE BATTLEFIELD. Sometimes I'll break out the rep tool for the one or two armor heavies in my corp, but otherwise? Nah.

Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 45	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:44:00 - [71] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: I started out always carrying needles and rep tool. Then I learned that everyone loves shields, so I dropped the tool for uplinks. I dropped needles for active scanning because who ******* cares if some dudes die when I can show my squad EVERYONE ON THE BATTLEFIELD. Sometimes I'll break out the rep tool for the one or two armor heavies in my corp, but otherwise? Nah. Shields are not good as of now.. and the repper and injector can save lives. But yes scanners can do that but is life that worthless where you can help someone or just ignore their actions and let them die.. And if you are a logi you are turning into one of those big corp logi that scan and let their protobear friends deal with things..
Rusty Shallows 512	Posted - 2013.11.18 07:18:00 - [72] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: I started out always carrying needles and rep tool. Then I learned that everyone loves shields, so I dropped the tool for uplinks. I dropped needles for active scanning because who ******* cares if some dudes die when I can show my squad EVERYONE ON THE BATTLEFIELD. Sometimes I'll break out the rep tool for the one or two armor heavies in my corp, but otherwise? Nah. Uplinks and Scanners is where IT is at. We all may like the romantic notions of a complex battlefield with a myriad of teamwork. However it simply isn't. The most effective approach is drop uplink, charge in, kill-die, repeat grind. Occasional 360 scan. Sometimes a little flank to try and break the other guys spawn chain. Sometimes it feels a little too close to a twitch shooter with the added penalty of having death costs. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 45	Posted - 2013.11.18 07:49:00 - [73] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: I started out always carrying needles and rep tool. Then I learned that everyone loves shields, so I dropped the tool for uplinks. I dropped needles for active scanning because who ******* cares if some dudes die when I can show my squad EVERYONE ON THE BATTLEFIELD. Sometimes I'll break out the rep tool for the one or two armor heavies in my corp, but otherwise? Nah. Uplinks and Scanners is where IT is at. We all may like the romantic notions of a complex battlefield with a myriad of teamwork. However it simply isn't. The most effective approach is drop uplink, charge in, kill-die, repeat grind. Occasional 360 scan. Sometimes a little flank to try and break the other guys spawn chain. Sometimes it feels a little too close to a twitch shooter with the added penalty of having death costs. A little too close? Are you serious? It's basically a twitch shooter with scanners like this to help people that aren't that awareness.. scanners= little to no skill.. scanners can only really be beaten by scouts and they aren't that good HP wise... scanners+ the weapon damage as of now... this game is dying because abuse of these things.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 221	Posted - 2013.11.18 08:46:00 - [74] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. This is difficult to answer because there different opinions on what a Logi should do. I run Logi 60 to 70 % of my playtime, I have have a fit for fast hacking and harrasing, a fit to provide uplinks and ammunition to create forward assault spots and of course a fit with injector and triage tool....
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 45	Posted - 2013.11.18 09:40:00 - [75] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. This is difficult to answer because there different opinions on what a Logi should do. I run Logi 60 to 70 % of my playtime, I have have a fit for fast hacking and harrasing, a fit to provide uplinks and ammunition to create forward assault spots and of course a fit with injector and triage tool.... Read the description on the suits in the marketplace.. as for it say Logistics are supposed to support by repping, reviving, resupplying, reinforce and rallying your team.. not for slaying. (Other than Amarr which can slay and support)
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 221	Posted - 2013.11.18 09:48:00 - [76] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. This is difficult to answer because there different opinions on what a Logi should do. I run Logi 60 to 70 % of my playtime, I have have a fit for fast hacking and harrasing, a fit to provide uplinks and ammunition to create forward assault spots and of course a fit with injector and triage tool.... Read the description on the suits in the marketplace.. as for it say Logistics are supposed to support by repping, reviving, resupplying, reinforce and rallying your team.. not for slaying. (Other than Amarr which can slay and support) Just out of curiosity where do you get the slayer part from my list.
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 45	Posted - 2013.11.18 09:51:00 - [77] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Are there is any logibros out there or are they dying off..? Maybe Logibros are changing over to Assultlogis... I need to know because being a logibro is getting more difficult it seems. This game is going downhill more and more due to things being unbalanced and the monsters(Assultlogis/spammers) that CCP created. This is difficult to answer because there different opinions on what a Logi should do. I run Logi 60 to 70 % of my playtime, I have have a fit for fast hacking and harrasing, a fit to provide uplinks and ammunition to create forward assault spots and of course a fit with injector and triage tool.... Read the description on the suits in the marketplace.. as for it say Logistics are supposed to support by repping, reviving, resupplying, reinforce and rallying your team.. not for slaying. (Other than Amarr which can slay and support) Just out of curiosity where do you get the slayer part from my list. Not from your list just saying lol too many Assault Logi make my blood boil they are as bad as protostompers in my eyes at least.


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