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CharCharOdell 1532	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:13:00 - [1] - Quote I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 16	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:14:00 - [2] - Quote nobody misses this >.>
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1258	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:17:00 - [3] - Quote Don't forget that maddies will have the 39 second hardener downtime... In chrome I could permanently get 13k ehp by cycling hardeners. "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå I Support SP Rollover, MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP !!!
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 82	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:27:00 - [4] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Don't forget that maddies will have the 39 second hardener downtime... In chrome I could permanently get 13k ehp by cycling hardeners. what will be the shield hardener time? 45?
CharCharOdell 1532	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:31:00 - [5] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 16	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:33:00 - [6] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker Yeah, i know how much tankers loved to be invincible with nothing to be able to threaten them. .. But even if im happy for the vehicle - AV re-balance, things will never be like they were back in chrome...THANK GOD.....
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 82	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:35:00 - [7] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker Yeah, i know how much tankers loved to be invincible with nothing to be able to threaten them. .. But even if im happy for the vehicle - AV re-balance, things will never be like they were back in chrome...THANK GOD..... what will be the shield hardener cooldown?
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1263	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:36:00 - [8] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker Yeah, i know how much tankers loved to be invincible with nothing to be able to threaten them. .. But even if im happy for the vehicle - AV re-balance, things will never be like they were back in chrome...THANK GOD..... what will be the shield hardener cooldown? Chek the chart provided by ccp in the vehicles changes thread "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå I Support SP Rollover, MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP !!!
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 558	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:36:00 - [9] - Quote I miss everyone not having PROTO AV. That was the problem with it imo. Nobody ahd higher than adv., so it was child's play.
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 82	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:37:00 - [10] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker Yeah, i know how much tankers loved to be invincible with nothing to be able to threaten them. .. But even if im happy for the vehicle - AV re-balance, things will never be like they were back in chrome...THANK GOD..... what will be the shield hardener cooldown? Chek the chart provided by ccp in the vehicles changes thread i meant with skills, not the LOL 50 second cooldown

Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 2136	Posted - 2013.11.14 05:57:00 - [11] - Quote compared to uprising, chromosome was the image of perfection... chromosome: "OH ****, TANK!!!!! RUN OR GET SWARMS!!!" uprising: "OH LOOK A TANK, FREE POINTS!!!!!" Youtube Closed Beta (Tanker) Vet Level 2.1 Forum Warrior
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 82	Posted - 2013.11.14 06:16:00 - [12] - Quote Void Echo wrote: compared to uprising, chromosome was the image of perfection... chromosome: "OH ****, TANK!!!!! RUN OR GET SWARMS!!!" uprising: "OH LOOK A TANK, FREE POINTS EVERYONE!!!!!" can you show me a vid a chromo?
Satja Askarin Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2013.11.14 06:22:00 - [13] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> I DO!
Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 2137	Posted - 2013.11.14 06:25:00 - [14] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Void Echo wrote: compared to uprising, chromosome was the image of perfection... chromosome: "OH ****, TANK!!!!! RUN OR GET SWARMS!!!" uprising: "OH LOOK A TANK, FREE POINTS EVERYONE!!!!!" can you show me a vid a chromo? unfortunately no, I didn't get a recording device until a month ago and chromosome was over a year ago. Youtube Closed Beta (Tanker) Vet Level 2.1 Forum Warrior
Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 2137	Posted - 2013.11.14 06:26:00 - [15] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> I do, your statement is invalid and mute. Youtube Closed Beta (Tanker) Vet Level 2.1 Forum Warrior
Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 2137	Posted - 2013.11.14 06:28:00 - [16] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker Yeah, i know how much tankers loved to be invincible with nothing to be able to threaten them. .. But even if im happy for the vehicle - AV re-balance, things will never be like they were back in chrome...THANK GOD..... ok then once again I ask you... being able to survive means to be god mode? <========= infantry scrub logic. Youtube Closed Beta (Tanker) Vet Level 2.1 Forum Warrior
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 72	Posted - 2013.11.14 06:43:00 - [17] - Quote upside to 1.7 Surya and Sagaris are comeing back once again as maruder tanks. so NOW WE WILL HAVE PROTO TANKS. if its possible i want to re-create the Dread Surya. scattered ion cannon 2- XT--insert type- missile launcher. (maybe cycles if they are chromossomes OP cycle laucnhers). heat sink 2 f-45 scanner fusion accelerator (T3 nitros module) heavy effecient armour repair unit. 2- carapace armour hardners. 180mm polycrystiline plate high-through put damage modifier 2 if i rember right. shields were 1357 armour was 7457 faster than madruagr oh and had a 4% damage bonus per level.
BRIANNA BEACH Pradox One Proficiency V. 63	Posted - 2013.11.14 07:12:00 - [18] - Quote I didn't tank until it was already too late :( ie uprising Im still in two minds as to how I should treat this experience. ..... Battle hardening or overly enraging for no reason? 1st Auxiliary Of The Praetorian Tower Guard
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5009	Posted - 2013.11.14 07:15:00 - [19] - Quote Satja Askarin wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> I DO! Stealth Adamance post is stealthy. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
CharCharOdell 1532	Posted - 2013.11.14 07:21:00 - [20] - Quote BRIANNA BEACH wrote: I didn't tank until it was already too late :( ie uprising Im still in two minds as to how I should treat this experience. ..... Battle hardening or overly enraging for no reason? You missed out on being able to get 30 kills easily. The best tankers were in extremely high demand and if you were good, corps would pay out the ass to have you fight for them. I wasn't recognizable until the end of chrome, so I didn't start getting paid much until Uprising to fight for corps, and ive stoppped tanking for the last couple months, but come 1.7 im gonna make a come back as the most feared railgun caldari tanker in the game since Slap and Hotch. 3000 DPS, anyone? :D Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition

Rusty Shallows 490	Posted - 2013.11.14 08:13:00 - [21] - Quote The Chrome HAVs was the reason why the skills related to all vehicles took a hit. Just in case any dropship pilots want to know who to thank because it wasn't AR crying that brought the over nerfing. I'm giving the Devs the benefit of the doubt. That the divide in HAVs from low-end to high-end will be tightened and a better balance against infantry will be achieved. Then again I also thought the change to the HMG skill was going to improve accuracy making it better and wasn't a pointless nerf. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1259	Posted - 2013.11.14 10:26:00 - [22] - Quote I miss 2 shotting cocky maddys with my damage stacked comp particle cannon ohthe those were the days. it used to take actual team work to break my sagi Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Rei Shepard Spectre II 940	Posted - 2013.11.14 11:34:00 - [23] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) And you guys thought nothing was wrong with your tanks back then?, sounds like the Tank did all the heavy lifting for you. Now that tanks are UP instead of OP you flail about for a bit then explode in a fireball. Actual good players can make UP stuff work, they dont need it to be OP to be efficient. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1665	Posted - 2013.11.14 11:46:00 - [24] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: The Chrome HAVs was the reason why the skills related to all vehicles took a hit. Just in case any dropship pilots want to know who to thank because it wasn't AR crying that brought the over nerfing. I'm giving the Devs the benefit of the doubt. That the divide in HAVs from low-end to high-end will be tightened and a better balance against infantry will be achieved. Then again I also thought the change to the HMG skill was going to improve accuracy making it better and wasn't a pointless nerf. Wrong It was because tryhards with AR didnt have any AV, infact the majority of DUST back then ran AR and barely anyone ran FG or swarms apart from the free anit vehicle suit If anyone did run AV it was a solo person generally, rarely saw any teamwork from AV ppl back then but those that did were able to destroy a tank with coordinated fire and planning that is if they didnt have basic AV and actually skilled up Simply put a tank was used to kill a tank and AV was support but get enough AV and you could kill that tank without needing a tank Now its going the way of needing more than one AV person to kill a tank, only the smartest will be able to solo tanks so thats a small number of ppl about now Pilots may quit the vehicle tree if they are infantry at heart, swarms will drop off and so will AV nades after the changes, maybe FG will stay around because of infantry kills
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 714	Posted - 2013.11.14 13:05:00 - [25] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> you are very wrong i miss this
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 714	Posted - 2013.11.14 13:11:00 - [26] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: The Chrome HAVs was the reason why the skills related to all vehicles took a hit. Just in case any dropship pilots want to know who to thank because it wasn't AR crying that brought the over nerfing. I'm giving the Devs the benefit of the doubt. That the divide in HAVs from low-end to high-end will be tightened and a better balance against infantry will be achieved. Then again I also thought the change to the HMG skill was going to improve accuracy making it better and wasn't a pointless nerf. and you are wrong...the reason this happened is because almost everyone wasa slayer back then with very few specializing as av masters...but for those of us that were av masters we did not want nor did we feel that tanks needed a nerf..soon come the days where the real av can be proud for destroying a tanker...where soloing a tank actually means something..i may actually go back to using my real av post 1.7 it is not slayers place to deal with havs it is ours the guardians soon av tanking teams will be valid and everything will change. soon guardians and marauders will be back in full force and all the ar scrubs and continue their whine about how they cant destroy everything in dust with they're slayer fit. meanwhile those of us that has proto av and never get to use it because whats the point really will finally have meaning and SKILL brought back to our spec... the role of guardian/sentinel has become to easy..where it used to require skill it now just requires skill points...i am really looking forward to balance being brought back to av/vehicles..soon the depth of dust will become even more...blue dots dont even understand how much depth to battles in dust has been lost due to underpowered vehicles.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 951	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:01:00 - [27] - Quote Please Don't Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 587	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:14:00 - [28] - Quote Im a logi........im so screwed
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 951	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:21:00 - [29] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) Another tanker thinking that they should be godlike and invincible while being the only viable counter to it's class. Sigh I wonder how many tanks will be on the field now. I expect a "team-quota has been reached" every match. But thanks for proving my point. Some idiots refused to believe that tank pilots want to be "god mode" and the only viable counter to it's own class. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 66	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:25:00 - [30] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do

CharCharOdell 1536	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:27:00 - [31] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) And you guys thought nothing was wrong with your tanks back then?, sounds like the Tank did all the heavy lifting for you. Now that tanks are UP instead of OP you flail about for a bit then explode in a fireball. Actual good players can make UP stuff work, they dont need it to be OP to be efficient. actually, it wasn't easy. there were hundreds of people with HAV skills, but only about 20 of us were responsible for going 30:0 in every battle, so no, it wasn't the HAV doing all the work (unlike the AR). Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 715	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:34:00 - [32] - Quote Atiim wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) Another tanker thinking that they should be godlike and invincible while being the only viable counter to it's class. Sigh I wonder how many tanks will be on the field now. I expect a "team-quota has been reached" every match. But thanks for proving my point. Some idiots refused to believe that tank pilots want to be "god mode" and the only viable counter to it's own class. awws another scrubby av user thats afraid they wont be able to cut it come 1.7
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 716	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:38:00 - [33] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) And you guys thought nothing was wrong with your tanks back then?, sounds like the Tank did all the heavy lifting for you. Now that tanks are UP instead of OP you flail about for a bit then explode in a fireball. Actual good players can make UP stuff work, they dont need it to be OP to be efficient. actually, it wasn't easy. there were hundreds of people with HAV skills, but only about 20 of us were responsible for going 30:0 in every battle, so no, it wasn't the HAV doing all the work (unlike the AR). lol 30/0 lets say 67/0 :D with the proper guardians and no one to stop us woe to the infantry ...although now maps are built to where for the most part blue dots have area in accessible by vehicles ..because of the maps now it will be different more separate...dust is like this there are 2 battles going in every match ..infantry vs infantry and av /vs vehicle ...now while vehicles are currently crippled there effect is not noticeable ...but soon tankers will carry bombarding teams to outer objectives sniper immune ..:) im real excited for tanks to be back
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 952	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:39:00 - [34] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Atiim wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) Another tanker thinking that they should be godlike and invincible while being the only viable counter to it's class. Sigh I wonder how many tanks will be on the field now. I expect a "team-quota has been reached" every match. But thanks for proving my point. Some idiots refused to believe that tank pilots want to be "god mode" and the only viable counter to it's own class. awws another scrubby av user thats afraid they wont be able to cut it come 1.7 Cut what? I'm a tanker and I will use HAVs in 1.7. They weren't that hard before, and with the new roflwatergun POS AV that we will have due to tankers not being good enough to survive an entire match; they'll be even easier. Just gotta retreat to a supply depot when you ammo runs low. When tanks can push out 15k EHP, a STD swarm will do jack $#!t. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Rei Shepard Spectre II 942	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:42:00 - [35] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) And you guys thought nothing was wrong with your tanks back then?, sounds like the Tank did all the heavy lifting for you. Now that tanks are UP instead of OP you flail about for a bit then explode in a fireball. Actual good players can make UP stuff work, they dont need it to be OP to be efficient. actually, it wasn't easy. there were hundreds of people with HAV skills, but only about 20 of us were responsible for going 30:0 in every battle, so no, it wasn't the HAV doing all the work (unlike the AR). Being only vulnerable against 10% of the weapon on the field must have been really dangerous, ive seen many Tank Vids from the "GOOD" players and they have the situational awareness of a fish. Like oh look theres a player, right over there .....tank driver drives on ....its like right there dude ....Tank Driver awesome reflexes kick in "OMGZ how did he get that close to me, starts spraying & praying ...laughing widly as his tank cannon only needs to hit Once or Twice to get the kill and manages to miss said target for a whole of 3-4 seconds, while having unlimited ammo" Yeah ...thats allot of sweet skills they got there...its like most heavy players, they are in that suit for a reason, so they at least get to act surprised when they get nailed by someone with 0.16 ms reaction times. And then there are the Heavies sitting in a tank ....as if the 10k ehp isnt already enough... Tanks need to require at most 1 person trying to activly counter the vehicle otherwise its OP, say if CCP allowed 16 tanks on the field and it requires 6 of us to counter one tank, we would need 96 people working together, unless you want vehicles to have a more anti-vehicle role, but then vehicles need to deal allot less damage to infantry. I just ignore tanks, the chance they get to kill me is awfully low, with a mobility setup suit and their exxcellent aim + some cover = getaway for free card anyways. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 2145	Posted - 2013.11.14 16:32:00 - [36] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) And you guys thought nothing was wrong with your tanks back then?, sounds like the Tank did all the heavy lifting for you. Now that tanks are UP instead of OP you flail about for a bit then explode in a fireball. Actual good players can make UP stuff work, they dont need it to be OP to be efficient. actually, it wasn't easy. there were hundreds of people with HAV skills, but only about 20 of us were responsible for going 30:0 in every battle, so no, it wasn't the HAV doing all the work (unlike the AR). Being only vulnerable against 10% of the weapon on the field must have been really dangerous, ive seen many Tank Vids from the "GOOD" players and they have the situational awareness of a fish. Like oh look theres a player, right over there .....tank driver drives on ....its like right there dude ....Tank Driver awesome reflexes kick in "OMGZ how did he get that close to me, starts spraying & praying ...laughing widly as his tank cannon only needs to hit Once or Twice to get the kill and manages to miss said target for a whole of 3-4 seconds, while having unlimited ammo" Yeah ...thats allot of sweet skills they got there...its like most heavy players, they are in that suit for a reason, so they at least get to act surprised when they get nailed by someone with 0.16 ms reaction times. And then there are the Heavies sitting in a tank ....as if the 10k ehp isnt already enough... Tanks need to require at most 1 person trying to activly counter the vehicle otherwise its OP, say if CCP allowed 16 tanks on the field and it requires 6 of us to counter one tank, we would need 96 people working together, unless you want vehicles to have a more anti-vehicle role, but then vehicles need to deal allot less damage to infantry. I just ignore tanks, the chance they get to kill me is awfully low, with a mobility setup suit and their exxcellent aim + some cover = getaway for free card anyways. your a ***** **. 1 tank= 3 av 2 tank= 3 av USE THE SAME 3 PEOPLE TO TAKE DOWN THE TANKS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. EVERY SINGLE one of you is saying that your too *** stupid to take down more than one tank or your av is only good for one shot or your too *** **** to point your av at another vehicle. no ***** wonder why your always complaining you cant one shot anything Youtube Closed Beta (Tanker) Vet Level 2.1 Forum Warrior
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2090	Posted - 2013.11.14 19:58:00 - [37] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: BRIANNA BEACH wrote: I didn't tank until it was already too late :( ie uprising Im still in two minds as to how I should treat this experience. ..... Battle hardening or overly enraging for no reason? You missed out on being able to get 30 kills easily. The best tankers were in extremely high demand and if you were good, corps would pay out the ass to have you fight for them. I wasn't recognizable until the end of chrome, so I didn't start getting paid much until Uprising to fight for corps, and ive stoppped tanking for the last couple months, but come 1.7 im gonna make a come back as the most feared railgun caldari tanker in the game since Slap and Hotch. 3000 DPS, anyone? :D oh really?
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 370	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:03:00 - [38] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker So you and everyone else with 0 gun game misses this, yep.
CharCharOdell 1536	Posted - 2013.11.15 03:54:00 - [39] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: BRIANNA BEACH wrote: I didn't tank until it was already too late :( ie uprising Im still in two minds as to how I should treat this experience. ..... Battle hardening or overly enraging for no reason? You missed out on being able to get 30 kills easily. The best tankers were in extremely high demand and if you were good, corps would pay out the ass to have you fight for them. I wasn't recognizable until the end of chrome, so I didn't start getting paid much until Uprising to fight for corps, and ive stoppped tanking for the last couple months, but come 1.7 im gonna make a come back as the most feared railgun caldari tanker in the game since Slap and Hotch. 3000 DPS, anyone? :D oh really? This is happening. Come at me bro. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
CharCharOdell 1536	Posted - 2013.11.15 03:57:00 - [40] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker So you and everyone else with 0 gun game misses this, yep. hmmm...you've never been in a tank have you..? There was a reason that less than 20 tankers, even in chrome, were good. - nobody was smart enough to understand the finer points of it. Infantry don't have to worry about turret depression, module cooldown, or anything like that. Good tankers are CONSTANTLY counting things. We calculate everything we do before we do it because one mistake costs about 2.25 mil (chrome numbers) We had tank game which is actually much more complicated than gun game. I do both, so I would know. Imagine playing a game where you have a red arrow over your head at all times- that's just the beginning of it. Now consider that you are the highest priority target on the field. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition

CharCharOdell 1538	Posted - 2013.11.15 03:59:00 - [41] - Quote Atiim wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Atiim wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) Another tanker thinking that they should be godlike and invincible while being the only viable counter to it's class. Sigh I wonder how many tanks will be on the field now. I expect a "team-quota has been reached" every match. But thanks for proving my point. Some idiots refused to believe that tank pilots want to be "god mode" and the only viable counter to it's own class. awws another scrubby av user thats afraid they wont be able to cut it come 1.7 Cut what? I'm a tanker and I will use HAVs in 1.7. They weren't that hard before, and with the new roflwatergun POS AV that we will have due to tankers not being good enough to survive an entire match; they'll be even easier. Just gotta retreat to a supply depot when you ammo runs low. When tanks can push out 15k EHP, a STD swarm will do jack $#!t. because swarms are light AV designed to take out light vehicles. Forges are heavy AV and designed to take out heavy vehicles. If you want to kill tanks, get a forge gun and sentinal suit like the real AV players who the tanks actually respect. Notice how most tankers don't mind being killed by forges? It's because it takes them real skill to hit us- not YOLO SWARMS AV NADES DEAD TANK. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles. 5497	Posted - 2013.11.15 04:02:00 - [42] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker And heavy Level 5 forum warrior Minmatar rule Warrior of bacon and defender of the bacon
CharCharOdell 1538	Posted - 2013.11.15 04:06:00 - [43] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker And heavy And scout And sniper And basically everything that wasn't an AR/medium Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 645	Posted - 2013.11.15 05:04:00 - [44] - Quote I think tanks are fine now. I think they are pretty effective if used well with infantry. Nyan San does great in ambush pubs with their tanks.... When it comes to competitive PC games, again, tanks are fine. They get burned by the dozen but they definitely have a role. And as a tanker if you run vehicles in PC your corp should reimburse you for losses. Eff you to ppl who lament chromo with its 30-0 tank runs, especially since those tanks were running solo w/o infantry support. I really don't get what you guys are whining about.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 645	Posted - 2013.11.15 05:08:00 - [45] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Atiim wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Atiim wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) Another tanker thinking that they should be godlike and invincible while being the only viable counter to it's class. Sigh I wonder how many tanks will be on the field now. I expect a "team-quota has been reached" every match. But thanks for proving my point. Some idiots refused to believe that tank pilots want to be "god mode" and the only viable counter to it's own class. awws another scrubby av user thats afraid they wont be able to cut it come 1.7 Cut what? I'm a tanker and I will use HAVs in 1.7. They weren't that hard before, and with the new roflwatergun POS AV that we will have due to tankers not being good enough to survive an entire match; they'll be even easier. Just gotta retreat to a supply depot when you ammo runs low. When tanks can push out 15k EHP, a STD swarm will do jack $#!t. because swarms are light AV designed to take out light vehicles. Forges are heavy AV and designed to take out heavy vehicles. If you want to kill tanks, get a forge gun and sentinal suit like the real AV players who the tanks actually respect. Notice how most tankers don't mind being killed by forges? It's because it takes them real skill to hit us- not YOLO SWARMS AV NADES DEAD TANK. Actually I back this one. Grenades are ridiculous in this game, period. And swarms - dumbest weapon ever made. Worse than AR with aimbot. Literally a weapon that shoots and scores for you. And you can totally run a fit with swarms and use a good SMG to feel safe against infantry. Nades and swarms need to be reworked, not the whole AV vs V framework.
CharCharOdell 1538	Posted - 2013.11.15 05:18:00 - [46] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: I think tanks are fine now. I think they are pretty effective if used well with infantry. Nyan San does great in ambush pubs with their tanks.... When it comes to competitive PC games, again, tanks are fine. They get burned by the dozen but they definitely have a role. And as a tanker if you run vehicles in PC your corp should reimburse you for losses. Eff you to ppl who lament chromo with its 30-0 tank runs, especially since those tanks were running solo w/o infantry support. I really don't get what you guys are whining about. you do realize that nyain san backs out of pubs where the odds aren't stacked in their favor, right? tanks do not work in PC. They did not fulfill their role in Chrome because they were very strong all the time. They dont work strong because they are never strong. Hopefully, 1.7 will bring them to their roles of 'seige guns' and 'battering rams' used to takw out hard targets at range or smash through hard defenses, very quickly, but not being sustainable for long periods of time. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 995	Posted - 2013.11.15 19:42:00 - [47] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: because swarms are light AV designed to take out light vehicles. Forges are heavy AV and designed to take out heavy vehicles. If you want to kill tanks, get a forge gun and sentinal suit like the real AV players who the tanks actually respect. Notice how most tankers don't mind being killed by forges? It's because it takes them real skill to hit us- not YOLO SWARMS AV NADES DEAD TANK. You've lost your mind. Any idiot can use a Forge Gun, and they can kill infantry. Swarms are way harder to use than FGs. No Swarm Launchers were not designed to destroy LAVs. They were designed to do the exact same thing FGs do. You have literally no proof suggesting otherwise other than what your fellow dumbf*uck tankers say. On another note, if you don't care about what AV does and doesn't mind, why should I care about what you mind? And again, you say this as if being a pilot requires anything more than 3rd grade intelligence and SP investment. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 104	Posted - 2013.11.15 19:51:00 - [48] - Quote If I were a tanker, I'd miss the days of the OP tank too. Looking forward to chasing you back to the redline and killing you in 1.7, Char. I prefer that to your mass driver anyway. :)
CharCharOdell 1545	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:03:00 - [49] - Quote Atiim wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: because swarms are light AV designed to take out light vehicles. Forges are heavy AV and designed to take out heavy vehicles. If you want to kill tanks, get a forge gun and sentinal suit like the real AV players who the tanks actually respect. Notice how most tankers don't mind being killed by forges? It's because it takes them real skill to hit us- not YOLO SWARMS AV NADES DEAD TANK. You've lost your mind. Any idiot can use a Forge Gun, and they can kill infantry. Swarms are way harder to use than FGs. No Swarm Launchers were not designed to destroy LAVs. They were designed to do the exact same thing FGs do. You have literally no proof suggesting otherwise other than what your fellow dumbfuck tankers say. On another note, if you don't care about what AV does and doesn't mind, why should I care about what you mind? And again, you say this as if being a pilot requires anything more than 3rd grade intelligence and SP investment. oh really? then why dont you go try out tanking and tell me how it is? every tanker in dust has adv av and a proto suit+weapon by now so we can talk; you can't. face it: we are going to be harder to kill than ever since Chromosome. We will be tankier than in chrome, do more damage, and move faster. all of our modules are more powerful and lolswarms and yolo nades got nerfed harder than anything since tanks lost their PG. and actually, yes, swarms were designed to destroy light vehicles because if you look at the numbers for 1.7, that is exactly what theyre trying to do. (forge direct dmg unchanged even tough it 2hk's some tanks? hmmmm....). You are wrong and look like an idiot. You will now be added to The List of Luekoberries: -King Checkmate -DJINN Luekoplast -Atiim Enjoy losing all of your forum credibility while your precious light av gets nerfed to hell :) Cry more, please. QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition*
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4442	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:32:00 - [50] - Quote "Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker" And this shows EXACTLY why tanks should never be as strong as they were in chromo *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4442	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:36:00 - [51] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: BRIANNA BEACH wrote: I didn't tank until it was already too late :( ie uprising Im still in two minds as to how I should treat this experience. ..... Battle hardening or overly enraging for no reason? You missed out on being able to get 30 kills easily. The best tankers were in extremely high demand and if you were good, corps would pay out the ass to have you fight for them. I wasn't recognizable until the end of chrome, so I didn't start getting paid much until Uprising to fight for corps, and ive stoppped tanking for the last couple months, but come 1.7 im gonna make a come back as the most feared railgun caldari tanker in the game since Slap and Hotch. 3000 DPS, anyone? :D I remember you. You were in PRO, until you moved to PFBHz.. In fact, I remember Joe giving you a couple million ISK for tanking in a chat. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 44	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:39:00 - [52] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) uprising wheated out the weak. Name York, Covert Clay, Bob, legend and many others learned to thrive despite the setbacks. go cry somewhere else. CCP ran outta tampons long ago O.H Tourney Team: slaying Regnums K.D one PC at a time
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 450	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:45:00 - [53] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Imagine playing a game where you have a red arrow over your head at all times- YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED! Damn Imperials! Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
Unmei no Hoeru Cazadores Seiei 55	Posted - 2013.11.16 08:10:00 - [54] - Quote I do miss those days even if at time I was not a tanker, the only real problem back then was the abusers; i.e.: 2 guys deciding to get 2 suryas in an ambush match or a sagaris camping in red line with over 10 000 HP. Now that I have a second account with HAV I know about the problems of them in uprising, a single guy with proto swarms and a logi vehicle can make your match a living hell, or the fact that my 800 000 ISK vehicle should be running away from a scout with La Dais. Examples like this ridicules the role of a tanker and they are now called to battle in PC just for the other team to have guys in AV all the time, no joke in here. As an active Forge gunner and HAV pilot I am more than happy to the changes over swarm missiles, as I always tell them: "You use those swarms and chase me because you can only aim something that's at least 30 ft. long, and for that you need auto-aim"
Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 2180	Posted - 2013.11.16 08:16:00 - [55] - Quote D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) uprising wheated out the weak. Name York, Covert Clay, Bob, legend and many others learned to thrive despite the setbacks. go cry somewhere else. CCP ran outta tampons long ago eh, not that big a deal. the truly weak will be wheated out in 1.7 and after Youtube Closed Beta (Tanker) Vet Level 2.1 Forum Warrior
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 647	Posted - 2013.11.16 08:52:00 - [56] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: I think tanks are fine now. I think they are pretty effective if used well with infantry. Nyan San does great in ambush pubs with their tanks.... When it comes to competitive PC games, again, tanks are fine. They get burned by the dozen but they definitely have a role. And as a tanker if you run vehicles in PC your corp should reimburse you for losses. Eff you to ppl who lament chromo with its 30-0 tank runs, especially since those tanks were running solo w/o infantry support. I really don't get what you guys are whining about. you do realize that nyain san backs out of pubs where the odds aren't stacked in their favor, right? tanks do not work in PC. They did not fulfill their role in Chrome because they were very strong all the time. They dont work strong because they are never strong. Hopefully, 1.7 will bring them to their roles of 'seige guns' and 'battering rams' used to takw out hard targets at range or smash through hard defenses, very quickly, but not being sustainable for long periods of time. I would not mind it; just don't want to see tanks roll 30-0 again that's all.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 85	Posted - 2013.11.16 10:12:00 - [57] - Quote I don't miss Chrome tanks, but tanks are in need of a buff. I drive a tank. I run from all AV. I see a tank. I throw Packed AV grenades. They run. Not cool. I am the Horseless Headsman. Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Ninjanomyx Imperfect Bastards 433	Posted - 2013.11.16 10:32:00 - [58] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: I think tanks are fine now. I think they are pretty effective if used well with infantry. Nyan San does great in ambush pubs with their tanks.... When it comes to competitive PC games, again, tanks are fine. They get burned by the dozen but they definitely have a role. And as a tanker if you run vehicles in PC your corp should reimburse you for losses. Eff you to ppl who lament chromo with its 30-0 tank runs, especially since those tanks were running solo w/o infantry support. I really don't get what you guys are whining about. you do realize that nyain san backs out of pubs where the odds aren't stacked in their favor, right? tanks do not work in PC. They did not fulfill their role in Chrome because they were very strong all the time. They dont work strong because they are never strong. Hopefully, 1.7 will bring them to their roles of 'seige guns' and 'battering rams' used to takw out hard targets at range or smash through hard defenses, very quickly, but not being sustainable for long periods of time. I would not mind it; just don't want to see tanks roll 30-0 again that's all. Infantry does this quite regularly....... You are a biased ignoramus.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 85	Posted - 2013.11.16 10:38:00 - [59] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: I think tanks are fine now. I think they are pretty effective if used well with infantry. Nyan San does great in ambush pubs with their tanks.... When it comes to competitive PC games, again, tanks are fine. They get burned by the dozen but they definitely have a role. And as a tanker if you run vehicles in PC your corp should reimburse you for losses. Eff you to ppl who lament chromo with its 30-0 tank runs, especially since those tanks were running solo w/o infantry support. I really don't get what you guys are whining about. you do realize that nyain san backs out of pubs where the odds aren't stacked in their favor, right? tanks do not work in PC. They did not fulfill their role in Chrome because they were very strong all the time. They dont work strong because they are never strong. Hopefully, 1.7 will bring them to their roles of 'seige guns' and 'battering rams' used to takw out hard targets at range or smash through hard defenses, very quickly, but not being sustainable for long periods of time. I would not mind it; just don't want to see tanks roll 30-0 again that's all. A good tanker should be able to survive and go 30+-0 regularly. I know several Chromo tankers that did so. milo cordelli, CharChar here. And I know a few that do now (redlining). But come 1.7, we will see who the true tankers are. I might stay in tanks, but I doubt it. I got a date with rail rifles and proto logi. I am the Horseless Headsman. Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1231	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:06:00 - [60] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> Us tankers miss not being useless in the face of one person with a swarm launcher. Back then, new tankers got destroyed, but with some SP in, they could be a major hassle for veteran tankers because of the damage potential. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1231	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:10:00 - [61] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker Yeah, i know how much tankers loved to be invincible with nothing to be able to threaten them. .. But even if im happy for the vehicle - AV re-balance, things will never be like they were back in chrome...THANK GOD..... What is your problem with a tank being its own best counter? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Foundation Seldon Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords 190	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:18:00 - [62] - Quote Both sides of this "discussion" make me ashamed to be part of this community. 1.7 LAVs - Thoughts and Discussion
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1231	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:26:00 - [63] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: The Chrome HAVs was the reason why the skills related to all vehicles took a hit. Just in case any dropship pilots want to know who to thank because it wasn't AR crying that brought the over nerfing. I'm giving the Devs the benefit of the doubt. That the divide in HAVs from low-end to high-end will be tightened and a better balance against infantry will be achieved. Then again I also thought the change to the HMG skill was going to improve accuracy making it better and wasn't a pointless nerf. Yes, it was AR crying, despite tanks 2-shotting each other with rail guns. That's the best direct hard-counter I can think of. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1231	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:28:00 - [64] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) And you guys thought nothing was wrong with your tanks back then?, sounds like the Tank did all the heavy lifting for you. Now that tanks are UP instead of OP you flail about for a bit then explode in a fireball. Actual good players can make UP stuff work, they dont need it to be OP to be efficient. What problem do you have with a tank being its own best counter? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 85	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:32:00 - [65] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Both sides of this "discussion" make me ashamed to be part of this community. People responding in threads with nothing useful make me sad. Tankers are badly underloved, let them vent. I mean, let US vent. I am the Horseless Headsman. Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1231	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:38:00 - [66] - Quote Atiim wrote: Please Don't You don't understand tanking. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1236	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:42:00 - [67] - Quote Atiim wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Atiim wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) Another tanker thinking that they should be godlike and invincible while being the only viable counter to it's class. Sigh I wonder how many tanks will be on the field now. I expect a "team-quota has been reached" every match. But thanks for proving my point. Some idiots refused to believe that tank pilots want to be "god mode" and the only viable counter to it's own class. awws another scrubby av user thats afraid they wont be able to cut it come 1.7 Cut what? I'm a tanker and I will use HAVs in 1.7. They weren't that hard before, and with the new roflwatergun POS AV that we will have due to tankers not being good enough to survive an entire match; they'll be even easier. Just gotta retreat to a supply depot when you ammo runs low. When tanks can push out 15k EHP, a STD swarm will do jack $#!t. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!! This guy calls himself a tanker, yet doesn't understand it, believes that 3mil SP into vehicles makes him a tanker, is on a crusade against tanks, then goes to say his swarms will make fast work of you because he knows his lack of vehicle skills and intelligence makes him terrible at piloting a tank. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1236	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:44:00 - [68] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker So you and everyone else with 0 gun game misses this, yep. Have you tried tanking? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1236	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:46:00 - [69] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: I think tanks are fine now. I think they are pretty effective if used well with infantry. Nyan San does great in ambush pubs with their tanks.... When it comes to competitive PC games, again, tanks are fine. They get burned by the dozen but they definitely have a role. And as a tanker if you run vehicles in PC your corp should reimburse you for losses. Eff you to ppl who lament chromo with its 30-0 tank runs, especially since those tanks were running solo w/o infantry support. I really don't get what you guys are whining about. Why are you mentioning ambush? Put them up against any decent tanker 1 v 1 and they'd be destroyed without that help. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1236	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:53:00 - [70] - Quote Atiim wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: because swarms are light AV designed to take out light vehicles. Forges are heavy AV and designed to take out heavy vehicles. If you want to kill tanks, get a forge gun and sentinal suit like the real AV players who the tanks actually respect. Notice how most tankers don't mind being killed by forges? It's because it takes them real skill to hit us- not YOLO SWARMS AV NADES DEAD TANK. You've lost your mind. Any idiot can use a Forge Gun, and they can kill infantry. Swarms are way harder to use than FGs. No Swarm Launchers were not designed to destroy LAVs. They were designed to do the exact same thing FGs do. You have literally no proof suggesting otherwise other than what your fellow dumbf*uck tankers say. On another note, if you don't care about what AV does and doesn't mind, why should I care about what you mind? And again, you say this as if being a pilot requires anything more than 3rd grade intelligence and SP investment. Yet AV complains that it should only take 3rd grade intelligent and SP investment to destroy tanks. You're not a tanker. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1236	Posted - 2013.11.16 12:07:00 - [71] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Imagine playing a game where you have a red arrow over your head at all times- YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor baby Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1236	Posted - 2013.11.16 12:09:00 - [72] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: I think tanks are fine now. I think they are pretty effective if used well with infantry. Nyan San does great in ambush pubs with their tanks.... When it comes to competitive PC games, again, tanks are fine. They get burned by the dozen but they definitely have a role. And as a tanker if you run vehicles in PC your corp should reimburse you for losses. Eff you to ppl who lament chromo with its 30-0 tank runs, especially since those tanks were running solo w/o infantry support. I really don't get what you guys are whining about. you do realize that nyain san backs out of pubs where the odds aren't stacked in their favor, right? tanks do not work in PC. They did not fulfill their role in Chrome because they were very strong all the time. They dont work strong because they are never strong. Hopefully, 1.7 will bring them to their roles of 'seige guns' and 'battering rams' used to takw out hard targets at range or smash through hard defenses, very quickly, but not being sustainable for long periods of time. I would not mind it; just don't want to see tanks roll 30-0 again that's all. But it's okay for infantry to go 30-2, right? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 733	Posted - 2013.11.16 13:17:00 - [73] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: ACE OF JOKERS wrote: nobody misses this >.> i do and so does every other chrome tanker So you and everyone else with 0 gun game misses this, yep. really 0 gun game...tanks have the WORSE HIT DETECTION THE WORSE RENDERING they are hardest thing to use .blasters have less accuracy in dust than an old civil war musket .. hell your tank rolls over a pebble in dust and every shot you shoot for the next 3 minutes is thrown off lol...the only good tankers have the best gun game
CharCharOdell 1549	Posted - 2013.11.16 15:49:00 - [74] - Quote D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: I miss Chrome tanks 5000 DPS? Easy Snipe someone from 600m away? Child's play Infantry RAN from a Surya or a Madrugar- not to a supply depot to find a swarm launcher The armor tank's only fear was a glass cannon Caldari tank...because not even they could take 15,000 DMG in about 5 seconds. Any less than 30:0 in a pub match made you a bad tanker Only the best profited; there were about 20 of us back then and everyone knew who we were. People would spawn with swarm launchers ready. it was glorious I still remember seeing gunlogis with 7500 HP AND a shield booster of madrugars with well over 15000 EHP while reppers were on. yup. Tanks were tanks. Then the ARs nerfed us. 1.7- we will be making a return. 15000 EHP is coming back. Madrugars will be able to take 12 shots from swarm launchers. with hardeners on. Gunlogis, about 8. Glass cannons won't be hitting with 5000dmg, but a little less than 3000, so not terrible at all. Once again, nothing will hit harder than a tank turret :D Not even a yolo nade ;) uprising wheated out the weak. Name York, Covert Clay, Bob, legend and many others learned to thrive despite the setbacks. go cry somewhere else. CCP ran outta tampons long ago Yeah...i've taken every one of them on and killed them...but to be fair, they killed me just about the same number of times. I guess I'm not as well known as I used to be because I don't tank in PC anymore. Fun fact: I'm still the only tanker in Dust who doesn't get facerolled by Bob. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
CharCharOdell 1549	Posted - 2013.11.16 15:51:00 - [75] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: I think tanks are fine now. I think they are pretty effective if used well with infantry. Nyan San does great in ambush pubs with their tanks.... When it comes to competitive PC games, again, tanks are fine. They get burned by the dozen but they definitely have a role. And as a tanker if you run vehicles in PC your corp should reimburse you for losses. Eff you to ppl who lament chromo with its 30-0 tank runs, especially since those tanks were running solo w/o infantry support. I really don't get what you guys are whining about. you do realize that nyain san backs out of pubs where the odds aren't stacked in their favor, right? tanks do not work in PC. They did not fulfill their role in Chrome because they were very strong all the time. They dont work strong because they are never strong. Hopefully, 1.7 will bring them to their roles of 'seige guns' and 'battering rams' used to takw out hard targets at range or smash through hard defenses, very quickly, but not being sustainable for long periods of time. I would not mind it; just don't want to see tanks roll 30-0 again that's all. They probably won't because all tanks are active tanks and even if they'll be harder to kill than in chromosome with hardeners on, when they turn off, theyre out of the fight for a long time. Not the constant rolling death machine of chromo but not the weak piece of garbage uprising gave us. I think it will be a good balance. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition


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